To keep the forum more organized and less cluttered, we'll consolidate all the "help me re-roll" posts into one thread. If you've found an item and need help about what to re-roll, you can post here. Note that there are a few things you can do to help yourself, but also help us and the community to reduce the amount of work - so please read the following advice:
1) It's much better if you understand yourself what the best re-roll option is rather than just taking someone's advice. There are a couple of guides that will teach you the basics about what to re-roll; please take minute to look over them:
2) Re-rolls often depend on the build you're using or want to use in the future. A very quick way to find out what stats are desired on an item is to use our build tool, put in the item in question, and look into builds that people have created using that item. Most build creators state the desired stats for every item in the build guide - take a look and you might find the answer there!
3) If you can't find the information there or resolve the case yourself, feel free to post in this thread. Note that the more information you provide the better; sometimes re-roll advice cannot be given without sufficient control. Best case just post your character profile and say what build you're aiming for and what's your favorite playstyle.
4) We will move re-roll question threads into this thread to keep everything in one place. That being said, if we feel this thread is abused for showing off, we might also move the post to the RNG thread. Please don't show off here and only ask sincere questions!
Moved to this thread, yuhanz. Not exactly re-roll help but strongly related and I'd figure it's better to have all those things in one place.
What's the tooltip comparison if you remove the gem? My guess is the other one is better - you can still get 1% more IAS, you have 5% more RCR, higher damage roll... but I'm not sure about how important the 1 disc is. But my guess is that 11 or 12 doesn't make all the other benefits from the right hand bow irrelevant.
I really don't understand what you want, both bows area already rerolled so there's nothing you can do.. 1% ias isn't going to make the difference, but the RCR is. I'd go for the one on the right.
it's the 1 disc difference that is making me think twice. 1 disc = 15% more damage, not sure if that is outright better
I've rolled a god-like Yangs Recuve (+10 Damage; 1000 Dex; +50 rcr; +12 Disc). It also rolled Vit which I originally rerolled to AS but have just now rerolled to +Elite Damage.
I figured that since i don't have this multiplier on any of my other gear it was a better option.
I also wondered about rcr; vit or Life on Hit, it almost seems like you can't go too far wrong with whatever stat I roll here..
Area Damage. Weapons roll to +24%. This is higher than anywhere else. If you are going to have it, you want it on your Weapon. But, you would need a GG one, but, you don't have that problem.
Area Damage. Weapons roll to +24%. This is higher than anywhere else. If you are going to have it, you want it on your Weapon. But, you would need a GG one, but, you don't have that problem.
Thanks. That is the one stat I had not seriously considered. I assume this is related to the fact that Area Damage has had a significant buff in patch 2.3? ps. damage range on this bow is almost max as well. it would be virtually impossible to roll a better one than this. (3605 dps with 7% AS)
I've rolled a god-like Yangs Recuve (+10 Damage; 1000 Dex; +50 rcr; +12 Disc). It also rolled Vit which I originally rerolled to AS but have just now rerolled to +Elite Damage.
Gratz (with about 25oz of salt do i wish you this gratz)....hate you so much right now lol.
yang's
1555 - 1911 lightning damage
7% damage
831 dex
920 vit
RCR 41%
11 disc
suggestion on what to roll? i dont think i would like to roll for the extra 1 disc? and i dont know how to put a pic of my bow here. im new !
As you can see I currently rerolled it to +AS. But I am not sure about this.
I could go for +10% increased dmg to elites. Or change to +area dmg. I already have rerolled 20% area dmg on shoulders. If I reroll should I just change the shoulders to +life or something?
This might be futile as it seems these questions don't get answered much, but my current Yang's is:
I think the general options would be either ( 6% IAS -> RCR or AD ) or ( 9 disc -> 12 disc ). I'm leaning towards maxing the disc, but not sure. I understand if people haven't really in depth theorycrafted these kind of comparisons and have to go by feel, I'm fine with that kind of response.
Very clearly you want to reroll the socket, to any number of possible stats. eg. +AS; +Elite Damage. Exactly what you choose to roll it to will depend partly on what stats you already have.
It is just my opinion, but if you have no +Elite Damage on any of your other gear than that could be a good option. Of course +AS is never a bad thing. I've heard Area Damage is also a great option. Heck, if you are having survivability problems +1K Vit would not be bad either.
anyway congrats on the bow, it is almost as good as mine
max disc if on the low side > socket to rcr if got decent AS
with +50% speed MS you will need each and every percentage of rcr you can obtain, to keep it rolling or else you are gonna end up spamming primary skill rather than MS, you might even have to sacrifice a passive for rcr. The only times you need to shoot generator should be to de-buff target or refresh F&R buff.. I'm telling all this to indicate importance of rcr for UE MS build(s) including this weapon
I've read through several reroll topics and done a few simulations, but I think this is still a close call. Would you reroll the discipline to max or reroll the Vit to 10% elite damage? The discipline would give a little more than 3% multi dmg at all times and keep the Vit roll, wheres the elite damage could help clear rifts faster.Also rerolling Vit gives the flexibility of rerolling to other stats in the future. All input welcome, thanks!
The bow he posted already has Attack Speed on it, he can't roll it the socket to it...
There have been multiple bows linked in here, the OPs, in the first post, does not have AS.
As for an answer to what to reroll, I don't know, I have a hard time giving one when I don't have any real math backing it.
Yeah I wouldn't worry about any toughness stats if you're at GR60. There's no amount of meaningful toughness you can build on a DH and still be useful damagewise at that level. You might as well be (fully) glass cannon, IMO, and fishing for good rifts, skipping reflects packs, that sort of thing.
There is a sticky thread for these reroll questions, but I guess it is either not enforced or not used
To keep the forum more organized and less cluttered, we'll consolidate all the "help me re-roll" posts into one thread. If you've found an item and need help about what to re-roll, you can post here. Note that there are a few things you can do to help yourself, but also help us and the community to reduce the amount of work - so please read the following advice:
1) It's much better if you understand yourself what the best re-roll option is rather than just taking someone's advice. There are a couple of guides that will teach you the basics about what to re-roll; please take minute to look over them:
2) Re-rolls often depend on the build you're using or want to use in the future. A very quick way to find out what stats are desired on an item is to use our build tool, put in the item in question, and look into builds that people have created using that item. Most build creators state the desired stats for every item in the build guide - take a look and you might find the answer there!
3) If you can't find the information there or resolve the case yourself, feel free to post in this thread. Note that the more information you provide the better; sometimes re-roll advice cannot be given without sufficient control. Best case just post your character profile and say what build you're aiming for and what's your favorite playstyle.
4) We will move re-roll question threads into this thread to keep everything in one place. That being said, if we feel this thread is abused for showing off, we might also move the post to the RNG thread. Please don't show off here and only ask sincere questions!
I'm not entirely sure which one would churn out more damage.
1 disc gives 15% more damage
If i reroll the as to 5%, the new bow would yield +4.something~ish %
right now, it's at +5~%
do I wait for GG 1890+ 10% 12 disc XD
your opinions are much appreciated
Moved to this thread, yuhanz. Not exactly re-roll help but strongly related and I'd figure it's better to have all those things in one place.
What's the tooltip comparison if you remove the gem? My guess is the other one is better - you can still get 1% more IAS, you have 5% more RCR, higher damage roll... but I'm not sure about how important the 1 disc is. But my guess is that 11 or 12 doesn't make all the other benefits from the right hand bow irrelevant.
if i roll it to 5% as (so they are somewhat similar) , the new bow is +4~%. +5%~ right now.
Hi.
I've rolled a god-like Yangs Recuve (+10 Damage; 1000 Dex; +50 rcr; +12 Disc). It also rolled Vit which I originally rerolled to AS but have just now rerolled to +Elite Damage.
I figured that since i don't have this multiplier on any of my other gear it was a better option.
I also wondered about rcr; vit or Life on Hit, it almost seems like you can't go too far wrong with whatever stat I roll here..
Thoughts?
Area Damage. Weapons roll to +24%. This is higher than anywhere else. If you are going to have it, you want it on your Weapon. But, you would need a GG one, but, you don't have that problem.
Thanks. That is the one stat I had not seriously considered. I assume this is related to the fact that Area Damage has had a significant buff in patch 2.3? ps. damage range on this bow is almost max as well. it would be virtually impossible to roll a better one than this. (3605 dps with 7% AS)
yang's
1555 - 1911 lightning damage
7% damage
831 dex
920 vit
RCR 41%
11 disc
suggestion on what to roll? i dont think i would like to roll for the extra 1 disc? and i dont know how to put a pic of my bow here. im new !
Hi,
So today i was so lucky to find an ancient Yang's Recurve with _great_ stats.
Now, i cant decide what stat to reroll..
either i go for the max damage of 3670
or the 1% disc for 15% multishot damage?
or the 9% resource cost which might give me more damage output over time?
or there is the 66 dex?
Can anyone help me here please? =)
//Jakel
edit: typo
Help me to decide if I should change my reroll:
As you can see I currently rerolled it to +AS. But I am not sure about this.
I could go for +10% increased dmg to elites. Or change to +area dmg. I already have rerolled 20% area dmg on shoulders. If I reroll should I just change the shoulders to +life or something?
Help me decide thanks!
This might be futile as it seems these questions don't get answered much, but my current Yang's is:
I think the general options would be either ( 6% IAS -> RCR or AD ) or ( 9 disc -> 12 disc ). I'm leaning towards maxing the disc, but not sure. I understand if people haven't really in depth theorycrafted these kind of comparisons and have to go by feel, I'm fine with that kind of response.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Spiral-1401/hero/65250518
Very clearly you want to reroll the socket, to any number of possible stats. eg. +AS; +Elite Damage. Exactly what you choose to roll it to will depend partly on what stats you already have.
It is just my opinion, but if you have no +Elite Damage on any of your other gear than that could be a good option. Of course +AS is never a bad thing. I've heard Area Damage is also a great option. Heck, if you are having survivability problems +1K Vit would not be bad either.
anyway congrats on the bow, it is almost as good as mine
max disc if on the low side > socket to rcr if got decent AS
with +50% speed MS you will need each and every percentage of rcr you can obtain, to keep it rolling or else you are gonna end up spamming primary skill rather than MS, you might even have to sacrifice a passive for rcr. The only times you need to shoot generator should be to de-buff target or refresh F&R buff.. I'm telling all this to indicate importance of rcr for UE MS build(s) including this weapon
The one I have. On normal though. Not playing DH this season.
The bow he posted has the highest discipline roll it can have.
Roll the socket to AS.
The bow he posted already has Attack Speed on it, he can't roll it the socket to it...
I've read through several reroll topics and done a few simulations, but I think this is still a close call. Would you reroll the discipline to max or reroll the Vit to 10% elite damage? The discipline would give a little more than 3% multi dmg at all times and keep the Vit roll, wheres the elite damage could help clear rifts faster.Also rerolling Vit gives the flexibility of rerolling to other stats in the future. All input welcome, thanks!
DPS =3312.8
1530-1894
8%dmg
994 Dex
845 Vit
48% RCR
+9Discipline
As for an answer to what to reroll, I don't know, I have a hard time giving one when I don't have any real math backing it.
Yeah I wouldn't worry about any toughness stats if you're at GR60. There's no amount of meaningful toughness you can build on a DH and still be useful damagewise at that level. You might as well be (fully) glass cannon, IMO, and fishing for good rifts, skipping reflects packs, that sort of thing.
There is a sticky thread for these reroll questions, but I guess it is either not enforced or not used
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Spiral-1401/hero/65250518