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Survivability after some tiers just becomes an issue - you can improve it by equipping some more defensive choices in cube or in open slots, like Aquila Cuirass or Ancient Parthan Defenders and so on - but later on in the game you will eventually be squishy, on any class, especially once you go above GR 100+.

I haven't played barb myself in a while, but if you play on PC you can link your profile by going to diablo3.com and logging in. I don't think such an option exists on console.

Thanks! I'll prep the site in the background so it's ready when S18 hits live.

Oh, sorry for missing context. We're talking about accounts that have been basically deleted due to the Fandom purchase in December/January or so. Every DFans user received an email with a link they had to click to consent to Fandom taking over the data - if you didn't click that link, apparently your account got deleted. I'm not sure if accounts were ever restored after this (if so that was probably Curse account service, I know nothing about this), but the posts are gone.

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nope i hade like 500-600 post.

i asked bagstone(a moderator) and he said all postcount is gone.

Can confirm, that was the response I received before the closure, when the Curse developers were in charge. Of course now there's new people in town, and maybe some new hope (i.e., maybe it was just too difficult but not impossible - I don't have insight into that kind of backend programming of DiabloFans). And I wouldn't get my hopes up.

Nice! I love Watchman

Hm... I sort of wanted to have only post-Blizzcon messages. But I guess I'll add pre-Blizzcon stuff, maybe in a spoiler. Thanks!

As the silence seems to make way to occasional news about Diablo 4, I thought it would be good to have a thread that offers everything in one place. I'll add stuff to it in reverse chronological order, so the most recent info is always to be found at the top. If there's anything I'm missing, just reply to this thread and I'll add it.

June 20, 2019: Diablo 4 allegedly shown to Blizzard France employees

Source: LeMonde (french). Article talks more about the internal struggle after the massive layoffs, no new gameplay insight.

June 6, 2019: StarCraft FPS cancelled, focus on developing Diablo 4

Source: Kotaku. A first person shooter in the StarCraft universe was cancelled to shift more development onto Diablo 4 and a Left 4 Dead-style Overwatch 2. Blizzard took the time for an official response, semi-confirming it.

November 21, 2018: Diablo 4 internally first codenamed "Hades", then "Fenris"

Source: Kotaku. For a nice summary of a few bullet points, I'll just cite this thread by KainneAbsolute on MMO:

Project Hades: Diablo IV

• Team 3 (Diablo team) was going to start the development of the second expansion of Diablo 3 after the release of Reaper of Souls, but they
received the order to stop. It really surprised them because RoS recovered some of the lost faith of the players in the franchise and they have a few things planned.

• Seems weird because after all, D3 and ROS are successful games.
• Team 3 was scattered. Some people went ot other franchises.
• Project Hades: They were asked to start Diablo IV development immediately. They didnt understood the reasons: they didnt wait to look the
performance of RoS in the following months. Maybe they considered that Diablo III was already a failure and RoS was a good moment to leave
everything in a well manner.

• Diablo 4 has some development. The idea was a third person Dark Souls Style game.
• The change in style was so big, they started to think if it was ok to call it Diablo 4.
• However it was cancelled and rebooted in 2016. They dont know if it was because Mosqueira left the company in the same year. Mosqueira denied to declare for this article.
• The Rise of the Necromancer was a way to appease the fans.
• ‘Man, if we had just done that second expansion instead of losing half the team as a result of the cancellation, and then all of the
personnel changes, management changes, then this walk down the road of Hades… If we hadn’t done any of that and had just focused on doing a solid third act for Diablo, it’d be out by now.’”

Project Fenris: Diablo IV reboot

• Really early in development.
• "They want to make this gross, make it dark, [get rid of] anything that was considered cartoony in Diablo III… Make what people were afraid of in Diablo II, but modern."
• Principles: embrace the Darkness and More social.
• More social? Hub cities and instanced dungeons.
• Team feels enthusiastic and optimistic for the new concept, however it wont see some light until 2020. They want to announce it with a playable demo.
• Isometric camera angle game...for now. They are not sure.
• The team expected and announcement and teaser this year or during Blizzcon. Blizzard heads changed their minds. Blizzards other department
and Blizzcon planner said there wasnt going to be a Diablo 4 announcement. Lack of communication.

• They didnt talk about how to monetize it. Blizzard looks to the example of HS and OW.

(Below: posts before or just shortly after Blizzcon that do not directly hint at "news".)

November 7, 2018: A Quick Word from Blizzard

Source: Official forums

Nevalistis: "Since the moment we stepped into the office on Monday, we have been discussing everything Diablo non-stop. We’re fully committed to listening and engaging—so please keep the constructive feedback coming. Our primary focus right now is poring over that feedback to inform internal discussions, and we’ll follow up with further thoughts as soon as we can."

"We continue to read feedback and our internal discussions are ongoing. We have many plans for Diablo across multiple projects which we’ll be revealing over the course of the coming year. We are eager to share more about all of our projects, but some will have to wait as we prefer to show you, rather than tell you, about them. It's going to take some time as we strive to meet your expectations, but now, more than ever, we are committed to delivering Diablo experiences the community can be proud of.

- The Diablo Teams -"

August 8, 2018: Multiple Diablo projects in the works

Source: Youtube

Nevalistis: [...] We’d also like to let you know that the forges here at Blizzard are burning hot. And we have multiple Diablo projects in the works. Some of them are going to take longer than others. But we may have some things to show you later this year. We hope you stay tuned, while we work to bring these Diablo experiences to life. None of this would be possible without the support that you have shown us for over 20 years.

So whether you first joined us in Diablo 3 or you are a seasoned veteran, thank you. Diablo is, and always will be, part of Blizzard’s identity, and we can’t wait for the future.

Just highlighting this thread - and updated the title to include posts and threads as well. I went through the history and we had exactly one false positive, so it's not like this happens commonly, but in case this happens... here's the PSA. Mods have this thread subscribed, so posting here will notify all mods (rather than if you PM a single mod about this issue).

Fixed! It's visible again now. I've also moved it to the barb forums (but left a redirect) so it gets more visibility.

Thanks for the feedback, we'll take this into account if possible in future development (can't promise anything yet, but I'm hopeful ;-))!

I'll just add something else that came up on Discord, because it's a well-known old issue that we've covered on those forums before: by default, weeks are sorted by "top of this week" first when you visit the build site, but "top in this patch" on the front page, and that inconsistency has confused many people over the years. Hopefully we'll be able to find a better solution here as well!

To celebrate the return of DiabloFans, we're giving away three Rise of the Necromancer DLCs or Diablo 1 + Hellfire!

The giveaway is hosted through our GiveawayBot on Discord, all you need to do to enter is to click the 🎉 reaction underneath the post in the #announcements channel.

Link to join the Diablofans Discord: https://discord.gg/8r7gSbB

Eligibility:

• Your Discord account needs to have been created on or before June 19th, 2019
• Participants must not be affiliated with Diablofans or Magic Find
• The Necro DLC is PC only, available in US, EU or SEA regions. Not available in China.
• Alternatively, you can choose the Diablo 1 + Hellfire bundle on GOG.com. You will need a GOG.com account.
• Void where prohibited
• The giveaway ends in 3 days - that's Saturday, June 23, 13:45 UTC.

Prize(s) and Winner Selection Method:

• Diablofans will award three Necro DLC or Diablo + Hellfire bundles (Retail Value: $9.99 USD each) to an automatic and randomly selected participant.
• Odds of winning depends on the number of eligible entries received
• Prize may not be redeemed as cash and will be delivered as a gift to participant's Blizzard Battle.net account (DLC) or via email (GOG bundle)

We want to give content producers a more exposed platform to present builds, videos, clips, guides, or similar content to their fellow Diablo fans! Make your own thread and keep players updated about new stuff.

This forum is subject to the forum guidelines, as every other forum - however, the rules on advertisement will obviously be very relaxed here. We'll see how this goes as we try to breathe some new life into the community, but for now just make a thread and advertise your channel/site!

You can especially use your threads to promote builds you published/updated, as builds can be quickly linked using the build tags:

So.. this is 1.5 years old, but I'm gonna bump/necro this. Obviously with the change to Sage's set, things become a bit different; while Sage's set in my opinion wasn't as good as just getting more damage and going to higher GR tiers (because it only added one instead of doubling it), now with up to EIGHT DBs per pack on T16 it becomes a different story. Also, since I did my initial sampling over two years ago, since then power creep has changed a lot of the variables.

I'm not sure if I want to re-do all of it, and I probably can't, due to time constraints. But I'd be interested in picking some of the "top Sage's builds" and take a closer look at them again. So:

1) What are the flavor of the monthpatch Sage's builds? (Links appreciated)

2) Are there any completely new or fundamentally changed builds compared to what I tested initially?

(Obviously no new sets have been introduced, but maybe some of the revamped stats have shifted powers or even enabled new supplementary items to shine.)

Edit: Nevermind. I got a ton of responses on Reddit and pretty much everyone agreed that it's just not worth it anymore to run Sage's - the bottle neck is elsewhere (mainly yellow mats).

I have no idea what's happening. But clearly, *something* was missing. Let's see what the future holds! Anyone still alive and kicking?

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Just tremendous passion about both Diablo and DFans. Not sure I've actually replicated it anywhere else since.

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edit: Registered before all of you, MWHAHA.

Well, the news hit the frontpage, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who's shocked, surprised, and extremely saddened by it. I can sort of understand aspects of it - traffic has gone down, and from a mod view I can say that I have to remove more spam posts each day than I can enjoy reading new posts. Nevertheless, I thought this could've been a nice place to hang out even if the franchise is going downhill (is it though?). But well. Ain't gonna happen.

But instead of endless complaining about things we can't change, why don't we all revisit our past, share our memorable DFans moments, and take a look into the future? Look at your post history to go down the memory lane. So, I'll start:

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I joined Diablofans about six and a half years ago because I had a stupid question about making an Inferno tank barb to support my two DH friends. That kind of didn't go anywhere, so I switched to my other main char (Archon wizard) which should soon become my passion. To share some of the insights I gained from reading up and theorycrafting some of the wizard stuff, I wrote a guide which maybe some of you remember (RoS edition as the old one was from the old forum software and looks ugly, but the first one was written over Christmas 2012). I continued to make a few guides (see thread history, some I didn't even remember like an 1-70 leveling guide, lol) and also my small website (http://d3resource.com/), I think the reason for making D3Resource was that I needed a domain to host my CHD vs CHC calc.

I don't remember when I became mod, because that really didn't matter; what I do remember is the lot of awesome people that I met on Diablofans, ingame, or on both channels. Some of those have sadly long gone, like Jaetch and Loroese - the two best wizard theorycrafters Diablo had (pre-RoS). I also have to mention overneathe, who introduced me to the DFans mod world (without him I wouldn't be here), and his successor Zero(pS). We didn't just play DIablo - do you guys remember the Terraria times? That was fun! There are so many more names I can and probably should list, but many of them were unfortunately purged in the recent transition phase when Fandom took over, and many don't check this forum anymore. But if you do please say high in here!!!

Unfortunately over the years the forum became more and more inactive, and I prefer old-school forums much, much more than Reddit (I just can't deal with the strange thread style, makes it impossible to read "all new posts") and even worse all the video-based info (I'd rather read a long, well-written guide than watch a 10 minute video on Youtube). But I guess that makes me a dinosaur, I dying breed, one that doesn't like to play games on phones ;-)

So, what's up next? I will maintain D3Resource, at least for now. I might lag behind with some updates, honestly, but the best way to contact me is shoot me a Reddit message. I think I'm still behind on the S16 season overview but honestly... not in the mood right now, given recent events. Also, work. If I ever were to abandon D3Resource, I would probably zip all the source code and throw it to someone, so no worries, it won't magically disappear. But it's a static website and I host a lot of old stuff (like a forum that has a much older community, founded in 1997, with less than 10 posts over the last 10 years ;-)). No worries.

I'm not sure about my personal future in Diablo. To be honest, as I expressed here, my view on Blizzard/Diablo shifted. I literally played 8-10 hours for the last 4 seasons each (went online, got a power level, rushed to get Guardian done as fast as possible, delete). S16 took me a bit more than 7 hours to finish Guardian. I'm not sure it's gonna be more given that D3 feels a bit stale to me and PoE looks so much more exciting. I just recently started (~2 months ago) but If someone has a place for a noob (I just played up 3 builds and tried to learn as much as possible, but only tried Shaper once and no kill yet) let me know, I'm sort of looking for a guild, preferably with Discord (and potentially forum, haha, you know me). What a cheap plug, but well, gotta seize the opportunity! I'm also occasionally playing SC2 co-op which I really enjoy (and watching WCS). Once Dfans is gone, I'll continue posting on Reddit, I'm regularly in the chat channel of svr's Discord (where we discuss D3, PoE, and SC2),and maybe we meet elsewhere. See my battle tag in my forum profile (bagstone#2613) or PoE (bagstone).

Thanks everyone for making this a nice home for so many years! <3