The idea of Tyrael getting evil seems very strong. At least he is going to be a very strong NPC on Diablo as someone said on the thread. WOW have a little Tyrael pet, he presents the Diablo 3 homesite and we can see much game art involving him.
Have somebody explored the idea that Tyrael could be warning us about heavens? The angelic danger can be the High Heavens itself and Tyrael rebelling against it to try to protect us.
Yeah, that's discussed in some of the books, too, I think. It's something like Inarius wants Sanctuary to be very ordered, which would eliminate free will and such, and he hates humans because they're so random and free-willed, and that's why he wanted to kill them in the first place (which he was never able to accomplish because of the Angiris Council and Tyrael's sudden intervention, I believe), but instead settled for secretly corrupting the Worldstone to bring the former Nephalem state of mankind to lowly and mortal/weakened humans. Something like that. Anyway, I think that's why he fights for the humans and Sanctuary, because the rest of the Angiris Council is passive about the whole Sanctuary ordeal besides him.
Yeah, that's discussed in some of the books, too, I think. It's something like Inarius wants Sanctuary to be very ordered, which would eliminate free will and such, and he hates humans because they're so random and free-willed, and that's why he wanted to kill them in the first place (which he was never able to accomplish because of the Angiris Council and Tyrael's sudden intervention, I believe), but instead settled for secretly corrupting the Worldstone to bring the former Nephalem state of mankind to lowly and mortal/weakened humans. Something like that. Anyway, I think that's why he fights for the humans and Sanctuary, because the rest of the Angiris Council is passive about the whole Sanctuary ordeal besides him.
doesnt Inarius just want the humans to be lowly worshippers?
I'd have to check. I could've sworn I read something like what I've stated somewhere. I'll go look, sorry in advance if I've misled you all
Okay, here's some quotes that prove some of it:
Who to expect in a upcoming Diablo game? The lesser Evils, Lilith -- mother of Rathma, and daughter of Mephisto; and the most important character above all ... INARIUS. Inarius created Sanctuary using the Worldstone, which he stole from Creation after resigning as Commander of the High Heavens. When the Angiris Council came to Sanctuary in the Sin War Trilogy, they ruled judgement over Sanctuary and the edyrem. Tyrael was the final member of the Angiris Council to vote. Tyrael voted in favor of Sanctuary and the edyrem's survival:
Quote: Tyrael: I DID CALL THEM ABOMINATIONS ... BUT I WAS WRONG! MY VOTE IS FOR THEM ... FOR I WOULD SEE WHAT THEY MIGHT BECOME ... AND MARVEL IN IT.
Mephisto appeared before the Angiris Council and offered a pact. Tyrael requested Mephisto to leave his Mark upon the spot inside the Cathedral of Light where Inarius had originally created all of Sanctuary. By placing his mark to seal the pact with the Angiris Council, Lord Mephisto looted his prize given in exchange of placing his mark ... INARIUS. Inarius was taken by Lord Mephisto to the Burning Hells.
Quote:
"A black substance oozed from the bite, and this the demon let drip onto the spot the angels had chosen. As it touched, there was a searing sound, and several red runes suddenly materialized above the stain. They turned twice in a circle, then sank into what passed for Mephisto's blood. The black substance melted into the floor, vanishing." -- The Veiled Prophet, page 334.
These quotes above can be interpreted as evidence that Blizzard might have plans to use The Sin War trilogy as the lore material to pave the path to a new game. Personally, and this is my opinion, I can see Blizzard releasing a RPG hack'n slash (3D) followed by an expansion and an MMO. The same way Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos and Frozen Throne paved the path to World of Warcraft.
Question: Is it possible the destruction of the Worldstone made humans stronger?Answer: Will humans become stronger or weaker? How does its destruction relate to keeping it hidden from the immortal sides? Will humans split into two factions, supporting both heaven and hell? Will heaven leave them be even if they get so powerful that they become a sincere threat to everything else? The destruction of Diablo's soulstone banished him into the immortal plane of existance, but with the Worldstone gone, could he go back? I can think up so many more questions which in high probabability I will get no answer from until Blizzard continues the series. “Inarius thought the nephalem a disease, a disgrace to what he was. To him, we should have never been. He only agreed to consider our fate as opposed to erasing us from existence because of the protests of the others. I feel that he would have yet chosen to follow through with his original intention if not for my mother murdering the other refugees. That act altered everything. Had Inarius exterminated us afterward, then he would have been all alone, something which even he could not stand. Yet, the notion of the nephalem disgusted him and that is why he took the Worldstone—which had been created in great part as a manner by which to hide Sanctuary from the eyes of the High Heavens and the Burning Hells—and altered its resonance.”
“What it means is thus; in addition to secreting this realm, the Worldstone also began a steady and subtle dampening process. Each succeeding generation of nephalem became far less powerful than the previous, until, in very short order, those next born were bereft of any ability. Soon, only a few from the first generation—myself and Bul-Kathos, to name the obvious—survived. The gifts—or curse—of our forebears was forgotten. Inarius began reshaping Sanctuary to his satisfaction…and to his iron rule.”
Uldyssian could feel the Worldstone’s radiance and did not doubt that it had the ability to utterly
smother his powers. Yet, why was it not doing so now?
“This is the work of Lilith,” Rathma quietly declared.
“Clearly, my mother altered the resonance of the Worldstone again, so that now its effect is minimal and limited more or less to Mount Arreat, if that. Even in its presence, you were able to overcome it. With the Worldstone no longer a hindrance, the natural process enabling the nephalem powers could now flourish. You are the result of that…the first, anyway.”
The more he stood near it, the more Uldyssian sensed the Worldstone’s emanations. He imagined them a thousand times greater…no, a thousand thousand times. What Rathma had said made more sense. With such mighty forces sweeping over Sanctuary, his kind would surely never have come into existence. Only Lilith’s interference had changed that.
Has anyone realized in the picture with the meteor crashing through all the floors and theres the girl and rat that the rat has red eyes???...maybe the rat is the last boss??? he looks evil...and was spawned when the meteor came down....anyone notice? ^_^...lmfao
i like how diablo fans analyze EVERYTHING...ill just take it a step further
Tyrael and Inarius could be bitter enemies, maybe related/brothers? They are opposites basically, is quite strange.
If Tyrael got kicked out of the Angiris Council and cast down to sanctuary maybe they expected him to die there, they could have known that it was going to be destroyed or at least that hell was coming and Tyrael alone could not defeat all of hell.
So Tyrael aims for Deckard in Tristram, he needs to find new heroes to help him accomplish his goals and to survive and save Sanctuary.
On the homepage, "Diablo III" is in the heart of Tyreal. There is also red coming from under Tyreal's hood.
Tyreal is/will be corrupted.
Okay, if you've been around for the last eight years, you should know better. Basing theories on minor color changes and positioning of characters in a picture is NOT A GOOD IDEA! EVER!
Have any idea how many "omg diablo is in teh center of teh banner so d3 iz cominz outz lolz0rs!" have been here over the past 8 years? None of them have been correct.
I'm not trying to insult you if that's what you get out of this- I'm just saying please for the love of learning from our past mistakes do not base your theory (or anyone, for that matter) on a picture.
I think its very possible that tyrael is evil. His face is always shady and never shown, he is going against heavens wishes, destroyed the worldstone and much more. Possible that he was doing this for good reasons but hes a mysterious character, which makes him suspiscious.
Sorry if I repeat anything, but 65 pages is a bit much for me to skim through...
I am also unaware of anything written in the books so this is just a guess based on the game's lore.
I've never really considered him capable of turning even though Tyrael has done some pretty shady things:
1. His image is easy to replicate, as Baal proved, making his true identity uncertain. Who is to say this is the real deal.
2. His fight with the wanderer seemed rehearsed. Not only did the wanderer survive an assault from the Archangel himself, but miraculously dodged his sword in the process. I know the wanderer walked quickly but I hardly consider him in the condition to avoid the attacks of a master swordsman such as Tyrael. Marius had just enough time to remove the stone from Tal'rasha's chest before Tyrael intervened. The speed Tyrael displayed could have easily prevented Marius from releasing Baal as well as put Diablo through several walls.
3. Tyrael is forbidden to intervene in act 4. Evading heaven's sight for 3 acts seems unlikely.
4. Trusting humans he thinks are incapable of protecting themselves. Earth, similar in many ways to the world of Sanctuary, is described in many texts as a purgatory, an effective border between heaven and hell. Soulstones in the world of Diablo 2 represent containers that allowed the prime evils to manifest on this plane of existence. Tyrael entrusted Baal's Soulstone to Marius, a mortal who walked with Diablo's vessel. If Tyrael believes this man can walk into Hell, retrieve the mallet from Hephasto, crush Baal's soulstone and withstand the influence of the lord of terror himself why did he even bother to intervene at all?
5. The Worldstone. All these events lead to Baal's extremely successful siege on Mount Arreat and even though Baal reached the Worldstone he waited for the hero by it's portal. Remember it is not until Baal's death that the Worldstone becomes corrupted, convenient that a hero should arrive that can best him in combat. Tyrael appears immediately after Baal's death and informs the hero that the Worldstone must be destroyed with little explanation as to what it does and what will happen when it is gone. One could venture a guess that, if the soulstones work in a similar fashion, the Worldstone may effectively contain Sanctuary concluding that if destroyed this plane would become a bridge between Heaven and Hell.
(Side note: Harrogath was barely touched when the hero arrives due in part to the aptly named Nihlathak's betrayel to "protect" it. If Nihlathak gave the artifact to Baal to save the town, why was he protected by hordes of demons in a multi-level dungeon? Perhaps Baal left the town untouched for his own reasons and gave Nihlathak power for the artifact. As I recall Nihlathak had been on the brink of insanity after the death of his peers)
Now, Tyrael could also be an unwitting puppet who became overwhelmed by the events that took place. The only Divine being in Sanctuary is cut off from Heaven's aid and may have bitten off more than he could chew.
my turn to say my theory! ^^
ok, so we all agree that seeing tyrial as an evil guy in diabo 3 will be cool, and he won't be another IZUAL, he will be cooler
aight, now... remember the act (iv i think) where in the cinematic baal is desguised to tyrial in order to trick marius to give him the soul stone?
why won't he just kill him and take it? how can he mimik the exact look of tyrial?
what if tyrial had something to do with this? what if the plan from the first place was that the soul stone was to be given to baal, so that he can corrupt the worldstone, and... guess what?
tyrial is here to save the day!.. or is he?:cool:
rrright... so now he has a good reason to destroy the worldstone, right? to prevent chaos and stuff?
now, the forces of hell and heaven will be able to apear in a more powerful presence on sanctuary... i think that tyrial is kind of pissed off on his friends up above, so i say that he will want REVENGE.... lets say he will start by KILLING MORTALS!
so to conclube, baal and tyrial were working together, and baal had this all planned out, and he's probebly laughing out loud at his jail... in hell... forgot it's name.
high language - check
spelling mistakes - check:confused:
are you with me?:thumbsup:
I think its very possible that tyrael is evil. His face is always shady and never shown, he is going against heavens wishes, destroyed the worldstone and much more. Possible that he was doing this for good reasons but hes a mysterious character, which makes him suspiscious.
1: he had no choice, he had to destroy the Worldstone
2: he is going against heaven's wishes for good, hell if he obeyed them Sanctuary would be a staging area for hell now
Sorry if I repeat anything, but 65 pages is a bit much for me to skim through...
I am also unaware of anything written in the books so this is just a guess based on the game's lore.
I've never really considered him capable of turning even though Tyrael has done some pretty shady things:
1. His image is easy to replicate, as Baal proved, making his true identity uncertain. Who is to say this is the real deal.
2. His fight with the wanderer seemed rehearsed. Not only did the wanderer survive an assault from the Archangel himself, but miraculously dodged his sword in the process. I know the wanderer walked quickly but I hardly consider him in the condition to avoid the attacks of a master swordsman such as Tyrael. Marius had just enough time to remove the stone from Tal'rasha's chest before Tyrael intervened. The speed Tyrael displayed could have easily prevented Marius from releasing Baal as well as put Diablo through several walls.
3. Tyrael is forbidden to intervene in act 4. Evading heaven's sight for 3 acts seems unlikely.
4. Trusting humans he thinks are incapable of protecting themselves. Earth, similar in many ways to the world of Sanctuary, is described in many texts as a purgatory, an effective border between heaven and hell. Soulstone's in the world of Diablo 2 represent containers that allowed the prime evils to manifest on this plane of existence. Tyrael entrusted Baal's Soulstone to Marius, a mortal who walked with Diablo's vessel. If Tyrael believes this man can walk into Hell, retrieve the mallet from Hephasto, crush Baal's soulstone and withstand the influence of the lord of terror himself why did he even bother to intervene at all?
5. The Worldstone. All these events lead to Baal's extremely successful siege on Mount Arreat and even though Baal reached the Worldstone he waited for the hero by it's portal. Remember it is not until Baal's death that the Worldstone becomes corrupted, convenient that a hero should arrive that can best him in combat. Tyrael appears immediately after Baal's death and informs the hero that the Worldstone must be destroyed with little explanation as to what it does and what will happen when it is destroyed. One could venture a guess that, if the soulstones work in a similar fashion, the Worldstone may effectively contain Sanctuary concluding that if destroyed this plane would become a bridge between Heaven and Hell.
(Side note: Harrogath was barely touched when the hero arrives due in part to the aptly named Nihlathak's betrayel to "protect" it. If Nihlathak gave the artifact to Baal to save the town, why was he protected by hordes of demon's in a multi-level dungeon? Perhaps Baal left the town untouched for his own reasons and gave Nihlathak power for the artifact. As I recall Nihlathak had been on the brink of insanity after the death of his peers)
Now, Tyrael could also be an unwitting puppet who became overwhelmed by the events that took place. The only Divine being in Sanctuary is cut off from Heaven's aid and may have bitten off more than he could chew.
Thoughts?
Please merge this with my previous post (i dont kno how to put 2 quotes at 1 reply)
for 1: yes he was easily replicated but not his angelic form, only his mortal form (displayed at Marius' Asylum)
for 2: even Tho diablo was weakened at his state he began to regain power (you can clearly see it when he walks in the large chamber and he begins to lose his humanity), And when marius was about to pull out the Soulstone he must've noticed it right in the middle of it and was preoccupied with diablo
for 3: the Angiris council must've had enough of Tyrael interfering with mortals, it is possible tho that he slipped past heaven's sight when he appears in the ending
for 4: he HAD to intervene if he didnt teleport Marius to the entrance when he pulled out Baal's soulstone chances are they could've catched up to him (since tyrael loses his connection to the mortal plane right after Baal disarms him)
for 5: i would think that death of a prime evil unleashes corruption and evil, Baal might've had some spell going on and he had to keep the player busy while the spell slowly corrupted the Worldstone, but for some reason whenever you manage to defeat him his goal is accomplished and the worldstone is corrupted, and with tryael appearing suddenly i would think that he was alarmed to feel (i dont know how) that the worldstone was corrupted
aight, now... remember the act (iv i think) where in the cinematic baal is desguised to tyrial in order to trick marius to give him the soul stone?
why won't he just kill him and take it?
This is a good point. The only reason I can think of for his delaying is that the stones might have to be willingly passed from vessel to vessel, or even more specifically when being passed to the vessel harboring the soul it contains, i.e. Tal'rasha.
Please merge this with my previous post (i dont kno how to put 2 quotes at 1 reply)
for 1: yes he was easily replicated but not his angelic form, only his mortal form (displayed at Marius' Asylum)
for 2: even Tho diablo was weakened at his state he began to regain power (you can clearly see it when he walks in the large chamber and he begins to lose his humanity), And when marius was about to pull out the Soulstone he must've noticed it right in the middle of it and was preoccupied with diablo
for 3: the Angiris council must've had enough of Tyrael interfering with mortals, it is possible tho that he slipped past heaven's sight when he appears in the ending
for 4: he HAD to intervene if he didnt teleport Marius to the entrance when he pulled out Baal's soulstone chances are they could've catched up to him (since tyrael loses his connection to the mortal plane right after Baal disarms him)
for 5: i would think that death of a prime evil unleashes corruption and evil, Baal might've had some spell going on and he had to keep the player busy while the spell slowly corrupted the Worldstone, but for some reason whenever you manage to defeat him his goal is accomplished and the worldstone is corrupted, and with tryael appearing suddenly i would think that he was alarmed to feel (i dont know how) that the worldstone was corrupted
1. He did imitate Tyrael's angelic form, even though it was only briefly.
2. This one is really just open to interpretation, I can't argue it.
3. Again, whether or not the denizens of Heaven are omniscient or not is hard to argue.
4. This is true, I wasn't really arguing intervention so much as trust, but I see your point. Though I could just as easily ask you why he didn't simply portal out with Marius and take the stone himself, preventing Marius from doing something stupid again.
5. If you watch Baal's death you'll notice several soul-like objects leave his body in a torrent and enter the Worldstone, shortly after the cavern begins to crumble signifying it's corruption. Tyrael once again displays is uncanny ability to be right on time.
1. He did imitate Tyrael's angelic form, even though it was only briefly.
2. This one is really just open to interpretation, I can't argue it.
3. Again, whether or not the denizens of Heaven are omniscient or not is hard to argue.
4. This is true, I wasn't really arguing intervention so much as trust, but I see your point. Though I could just as easily ask you why he didn't simply portal out with Marius and take the stone himself, preventing Marius from doing something stupid again.
5. If you watch Baal's death you'll notice several soul-like objects leave his body in a torrent and enter the Worldstone, shortly after the cavern begins to crumble signifying it's corruption. Tyrael once again displays is uncanny ability to be right on time.
Impressive, Indeed my friend again neither of us is either right or wrong, which makes this arguement wide open.
And yes, i have to say Tyrael has the strangest ability to arrive right on time if not late
:offtopic:btw i never got to play D2 LoD, I never even got to finish D2 lol, just reached the last quest with my level 26 paladin
Have somebody explored the idea that Tyrael could be warning us about heavens? The angelic danger can be the High Heavens itself and Tyrael rebelling against it to try to protect us.
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doesnt Inarius just want the humans to be lowly worshippers?
Okay, here's some quotes that prove some of it:
(http://www.diablofans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8609)
Here we go, this is what I was looking for:
(http://www.diablofans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8224&highlight=inarius+humans+hate+destroy#Who%20is%20Inarius?)
Tyreal is/will be corrupted.
i like how diablo fans analyze EVERYTHING...ill just take it a step further
If Tyrael got kicked out of the Angiris Council and cast down to sanctuary maybe they expected him to die there, they could have known that it was going to be destroyed or at least that hell was coming and Tyrael alone could not defeat all of hell.
So Tyrael aims for Deckard in Tristram, he needs to find new heroes to help him accomplish his goals and to survive and save Sanctuary.
Just another thought.
Okay, if you've been around for the last eight years, you should know better. Basing theories on minor color changes and positioning of characters in a picture is NOT A GOOD IDEA! EVER!
Have any idea how many "omg diablo is in teh center of teh banner so d3 iz cominz outz lolz0rs!" have been here over the past 8 years? None of them have been correct.
I'm not trying to insult you if that's what you get out of this- I'm just saying please for the love of learning from our past mistakes do not base your theory (or anyone, for that matter) on a picture.
I am also unaware of anything written in the books so this is just a guess based on the game's lore.
I've never really considered him capable of turning even though Tyrael has done some pretty shady things:
1. His image is easy to replicate, as Baal proved, making his true identity uncertain. Who is to say this is the real deal.
2. His fight with the wanderer seemed rehearsed. Not only did the wanderer survive an assault from the Archangel himself, but miraculously dodged his sword in the process. I know the wanderer walked quickly but I hardly consider him in the condition to avoid the attacks of a master swordsman such as Tyrael. Marius had just enough time to remove the stone from Tal'rasha's chest before Tyrael intervened. The speed Tyrael displayed could have easily prevented Marius from releasing Baal as well as put Diablo through several walls.
3. Tyrael is forbidden to intervene in act 4. Evading heaven's sight for 3 acts seems unlikely.
4. Trusting humans he thinks are incapable of protecting themselves. Earth, similar in many ways to the world of Sanctuary, is described in many texts as a purgatory, an effective border between heaven and hell. Soulstones in the world of Diablo 2 represent containers that allowed the prime evils to manifest on this plane of existence. Tyrael entrusted Baal's Soulstone to Marius, a mortal who walked with Diablo's vessel. If Tyrael believes this man can walk into Hell, retrieve the mallet from Hephasto, crush Baal's soulstone and withstand the influence of the lord of terror himself why did he even bother to intervene at all?
5. The Worldstone. All these events lead to Baal's extremely successful siege on Mount Arreat and even though Baal reached the Worldstone he waited for the hero by it's portal. Remember it is not until Baal's death that the Worldstone becomes corrupted, convenient that a hero should arrive that can best him in combat. Tyrael appears immediately after Baal's death and informs the hero that the Worldstone must be destroyed with little explanation as to what it does and what will happen when it is gone. One could venture a guess that, if the soulstones work in a similar fashion, the Worldstone may effectively contain Sanctuary concluding that if destroyed this plane would become a bridge between Heaven and Hell.
(Side note: Harrogath was barely touched when the hero arrives due in part to the aptly named Nihlathak's betrayel to "protect" it. If Nihlathak gave the artifact to Baal to save the town, why was he protected by hordes of demons in a multi-level dungeon? Perhaps Baal left the town untouched for his own reasons and gave Nihlathak power for the artifact. As I recall Nihlathak had been on the brink of insanity after the death of his peers)
Now, Tyrael could also be an unwitting puppet who became overwhelmed by the events that took place. The only Divine being in Sanctuary is cut off from Heaven's aid and may have bitten off more than he could chew.
Thoughts?
ok, so we all agree that seeing tyrial as an evil guy in diabo 3 will be cool, and he won't be another IZUAL, he will be cooler
aight, now... remember the act (iv i think) where in the cinematic baal is desguised to tyrial in order to trick marius to give him the soul stone?
why won't he just kill him and take it? how can he mimik the exact look of tyrial?
what if tyrial had something to do with this? what if the plan from the first place was that the soul stone was to be given to baal, so that he can corrupt the worldstone, and... guess what?
tyrial is here to save the day!.. or is he?:cool:
rrright... so now he has a good reason to destroy the worldstone, right? to prevent chaos and stuff?
now, the forces of hell and heaven will be able to apear in a more powerful presence on sanctuary... i think that tyrial is kind of pissed off on his friends up above, so i say that he will want REVENGE.... lets say he will start by KILLING MORTALS!
so to conclube, baal and tyrial were working together, and baal had this all planned out, and he's probebly laughing out loud at his jail... in hell... forgot it's name.
high language - check
spelling mistakes - check:confused:
are you with me?:thumbsup:
1: he had no choice, he had to destroy the Worldstone
2: he is going against heaven's wishes for good, hell if he obeyed them Sanctuary would be a staging area for hell now
Please merge this with my previous post (i dont kno how to put 2 quotes at 1 reply)
for 1: yes he was easily replicated but not his angelic form, only his mortal form (displayed at Marius' Asylum)
for 2: even Tho diablo was weakened at his state he began to regain power (you can clearly see it when he walks in the large chamber and he begins to lose his humanity), And when marius was about to pull out the Soulstone he must've noticed it right in the middle of it and was preoccupied with diablo
for 3: the Angiris council must've had enough of Tyrael interfering with mortals, it is possible tho that he slipped past heaven's sight when he appears in the ending
for 4: he HAD to intervene if he didnt teleport Marius to the entrance when he pulled out Baal's soulstone chances are they could've catched up to him (since tyrael loses his connection to the mortal plane right after Baal disarms him)
for 5: i would think that death of a prime evil unleashes corruption and evil, Baal might've had some spell going on and he had to keep the player busy while the spell slowly corrupted the Worldstone, but for some reason whenever you manage to defeat him his goal is accomplished and the worldstone is corrupted, and with tryael appearing suddenly i would think that he was alarmed to feel (i dont know how) that the worldstone was corrupted
This is a good point. The only reason I can think of for his delaying is that the stones might have to be willingly passed from vessel to vessel, or even more specifically when being passed to the vessel harboring the soul it contains, i.e. Tal'rasha.
1. He did imitate Tyrael's angelic form, even though it was only briefly.
2. This one is really just open to interpretation, I can't argue it.
3. Again, whether or not the denizens of Heaven are omniscient or not is hard to argue.
4. This is true, I wasn't really arguing intervention so much as trust, but I see your point. Though I could just as easily ask you why he didn't simply portal out with Marius and take the stone himself, preventing Marius from doing something stupid again.
5. If you watch Baal's death you'll notice several soul-like objects leave his body in a torrent and enter the Worldstone, shortly after the cavern begins to crumble signifying it's corruption. Tyrael once again displays is uncanny ability to be right on time.
Impressive, Indeed my friend again neither of us is either right or wrong, which makes this arguement wide open.
And yes, i have to say Tyrael has the strangest ability to arrive right on time if not late
:offtopic:btw i never got to play D2 LoD, I never even got to finish D2 lol, just reached the last quest with my level 26 paladin
Ah, you should finish it! Definitely worth it.