The thing is, Heaven was never WITH us. They just allowed us to live. The only one actually with us was Tyrael. Most angels could care less what happens to the humans. Tyrael though I would say is least likely to become corrupted though. I don't believe any angel will become corrupted. Does that mean they won't decide to destroy us though? No. They came close to it before.
Izual. But I agree that at least Tyrael will not stoop to corruption. Far too simple and predictable. I think the story will show more of how intervention is costing him valuable sway in the Council, friendships up there, and strains everything he knows he should do as an angel.
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The only way that quote can be taken as Izual not being corrupted is if he was aligned with Hell at the moment he was created. Otherwise he would have had to go from angel fighting with Heaven -> angel fighting with Hell, i.e. corrupt.
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I dunno there is a difference between switching sides and being corrupted imo. Seems more like he swapped sides to me. He wouldn't be the first angel to leave heaven uncorrupted. Inarius left of free will as well.
Well, if he switched sides, then in my opinion he is corrupted. Nihlathak was a corrupted human--he exchanged his heritage, his knowledge, and his people for power and his own life. That doesn't mean he became physically demonic, but his intentions were the same.
As far as I understand it, Izual only caged his real self in a demonic shell, so his essence didn't transform, but sure enough, his desires and morality switched like a light switch. That is corruption, in my opinion.
Of course, one could argue that Tyrael has always been corrupted. He sides with humans, not with the Council.
Well in the sense most people are saying "corrupted" about Tyrael it seems more like they mean possessed, maybe tainted, or something to switch teams so fast.
I dunno there is a difference between switching sides and being corrupted imo. Seems more like he swapped sides to me. He wouldn't be the first angel to leave heaven uncorrupted. Inarius left of free will as well.
As far as I understand it, Izual only caged his real self in a demonic shell, so his essence didn't transform, but sure enough, his desires and morality switched like a light switch. That is corruption, in my opinion.
I'm leaning towards Mags reasoning here. True, Inarius didn't leave Heaven because of Hell, and he isn't by any means aligned with Hell. But he's certainly corrupt in the sense that he left Heaven and everything it stood for.
Same thing can be said of Izual. Though I do agree that the word "corrupt" in video games is usually taken to mean that an individual was forced to another side due to direct manipulation, most often through magic of some sort. But even if Izual was swayed to Hell by words and promises, it's still manipulation from Hell, and it still made him switch sides.
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Yea, corrupted certainly has connotations of being forced to do something. It usually means an outside force made you take certain actions. Izual is a traitor. Inarius is a deserter. I wouldn't say either of them are corrupt. Leoric would be a better example of someone who was corrupted.
I guess I never really looked at either the angels or demons being good or evil. Expecially when reading the books the angels dont seem to be the (at least to me) epitome of good in any way. In most cases I do have to say that tyrael does seem to be a bit bi-polar, while in the sin war books when he is first introduced he seemed kinda like a duche just like inarius (maybe not that bad) and all the other angels arrogant, dogmatic, supreme beings that deserved to rule over all in a strict disciplined military manner. But in other occurances i.e. d2, demonsbane ect. he seems nothing but helpful to our heros and humanity as a whole. So to say that tyrael "tured" evil in d3 I would have to disagree. I think that both heaven and hell are, shall I dare say, "Evil". Be that as it may based upon the op I dont really think that this Angel (be it tyrael or not) is "turning evil" the images cleary show that this angel is summoning a great power but w/o more I dont really think I would say he is acting with good or evil intentions. Just my opinion.
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I don't think Tyrael will be the archangel screwing over Sanctuary. There's more than one on the Council. I think it will be the ones that voted for the destruction of Sanctuary causing issues, and we may see a demonic invasion, while the High Heavens erupt in a civil war.
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Izual. But I agree that at least Tyrael will not stoop to corruption. Far too simple and predictable. I think the story will show more of how intervention is costing him valuable sway in the Council, friendships up there, and strains everything he knows he should do as an angel.
As far as I understand it, Izual only caged his real self in a demonic shell, so his essence didn't transform, but sure enough, his desires and morality switched like a light switch. That is corruption, in my opinion.
Of course, one could argue that Tyrael has always been corrupted. He sides with humans, not with the Council.
Same thing can be said of Izual. Though I do agree that the word "corrupt" in video games is usually taken to mean that an individual was forced to another side due to direct manipulation, most often through magic of some sort. But even if Izual was swayed to Hell by words and promises, it's still manipulation from Hell, and it still made him switch sides.
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Then you see what cannot be— Shadows move where light should be.
Out of darkness, out of mind, Cast down into the Halls of the Blind.