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A; No shit bud, Blizzard is a business. Making smart business moves kind of.... comes with the territory.
B; D3 took 5 years to develop, stop citing the start time as when Diablo 2 launched.
C; Yes, they took less time to develop their games at the start, and pooled all their resources into one game at a time. Why? Because they were a tiny company, and the games they made were really simple.
D; You give no actual facts or points as to why you think D3 is broken / sub-par / superdy duper bad, you just spout of those words.
E; People didn't want to move from SC1 to SC2 because SC1 was almost perfectly balanced, and it had become an Esport. Players had spent countless hours on perfecting their game to beat other players, it only makes sense some were hesitant.

I also like how you just assume the million annual pass subs would have just quit wow, I like making up numbers too!

TLDR; More QQ about Blizzard being a company, and a smart one at that, and you don't like a game they have made. Mind if I check up on you in a week, see if you still play?

Well, this IS a video game. If you don't have fun farming (which is almost the whole game) then why are you even playing?

legendaries do have a special sound. Actually every item quality does. Go drop a magic, a rare and a legendary item, they are all different. Legendaries have like a tshhh sound lol.

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League of Legends i say.

*pukes in mouth a little*


Anyway, dabbling in both. Going to play MoP just out of tradition, but probably won't raid in it.

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This game is beyond fucking horrible. it has absolutley no end game content, All the best items are being directed to RMAH so you cant get the best items. The loot system is beyond idiotic! Ive played most of my time on my DH 450+ hours farming and during that time the only item ive gotten from farming was a pair of gloves that now i cant even get sold for 2 million! ALL of the other gear was from the fucking AH.

Ive personally fucking had enough of this game, if they dont DRASTICLY increase the fucking drop rate from mobs/bosses/champs and add some end game content this game will be stone cold dead in 2-3 months

A rediculous amount of ppl have already thrown this game in the garbage and you can add 1 more to that! = ME,

it took me 2 months of 12+ hours of farming every day to get 1 single fucking item that actually sold for 200+ million


I looked forward to this game for a really dam long time and it has given me nothing but dissapointment

I can barely sell anything on GAH or RMAH anymore since the ppl out there arent playing this piece of shit anymore

Took you a long ass time to get an item that someone wanted to buy for two HUNDRED million? Sounds like the drop rate is working as intended =D

You don't like it? gtfo I say!

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Who the HELL brought this BOGUS A#! world of warcraft feature into diablo 3....

Bul-Kathos Wedding band...... it takes TWO!!! to be in a marriage! maybe i want to wear the other freaking ring? Can't duel wield the Legendaries and there going to be fixing to suck compaired to rares. But i guess with blizzard they want items to be on the AH so they'll force any reason on us to sell items.

lmfao love it when people get mad and have no actual argument and instead revert to 'blizz wants us to use the AH!!!!'

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When you think Diablo 3 can't get any worse, it can. Blizzard keeps failing and does it hard.

I mean, a few weeks ago I stopped believing that Blizzard had decades of experience in the gaming industry with the fail launch, the many downtimes, the many bugs and how bad the RMAH was implemented. Now I stopped believing that Blizzard actually can make a full working proper game. They should go back to make offline single player games.

So I'm guessing you weren't around for the Diablo 2 launch... or the WoW launch, or every expansion pack. You can only theorize what will go wrong with millions of actual clients logging onto your server, but in order to find and fix bugs / problems, you have to actually have the real thing. Get the fuck over the launch, it was just as bad as every other major mmo like launch, and it's been fixed. It has always happened, and it always will happen.

If you have such a hateful attitude towards the game, why are you even playing it? If you really think it sucks, why don't you quit?

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I'm getting fed upp with all this RMAH conspiracy nonsense crap...

Yea it's pretty funny that Blizzard is 'forcing' everyone to use the AH. I haven't bought or sold a single thing on the RMAH, and only have used the GAH a little, and i'm having a blast farming inferno and leveling other alts. Ya'll need to settle down =D

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The only things Diablo takes from MMOs is the very rich lore and some basics (leveling, items with stats, abilities). That's it.

There aren't enough classes to make an MMO, and all classes are dps. Diablo is fine the way it is.

Those traits are not entitled to MMO's alone, it's called RPG. So no Diablo doesn't take those things (leveling etc) from MMO's, as RPGs came before that and Diablo is an RPG. If anything they took it from RPGs, but well, as an RPG it would be odd if it didn't have RPG elements.

Anyways, just pointing that out. An MMO is usually an RPG just online, and well MM (massive multiplayer) it's intended to be massive, Diablo for one isn't in that sense. That's what I like, that's how it's a different kind of RPG game that despite that, still is online. For us who prefer to game online and not solo. (not saying that can't be fun.)

But I enjoy the online aspect, and having left MMO's for the first time I have no intention to go back to that again.. so Diablo is just the thing for me now, I can play online without it being this endless worlds with endless possibilities that never end. Diablo is still limited compared. I fancy the idea that this might work as more "Casual Play" for me, and I can keep my online gaming to that extent.

Oh I agree, i left wow and other mmorgs (played everything from aion, rift, WH, blah blah) because it dawned on me one day; This feels like a damn job. When I have to be online at a certain time, for a certain time frame, that's a job. When my success and failure is dependent upon other players, it's no fun. Not saying MMORGS don't have their place, I'm just glad I'm not a part of it anymore.

Ahh, diablo. I can hop on for 10 minutes or 10 hours, doesn't matter. No longer will I be standing around a city, waiting on others before I can play a game. I can get the best possible items by myself if I want, or join with friends.

Yep you can either go hardcore or casual with diablo, and your success will be dependent entirely on your own time =)

Btw, diablo fanboi right here <---

Oh I do agree. Nice to see someone that sees it from the same viewpoint, most just seem to say "if you don't go pro go home" so to say. I play for fun, and I have a daughter, a job and all that. At the end of the day, a game is a game, real life is real life. No matter how you look at it. If something virtual convinces you that it's more than that, then you should reflect on your life for a while, and find out what's best for your future. That's when you'll get your payback, whether it be good or bad.

Depends on what you did with your time, I sure won't look back and regret I spent mine playing games, that I have nothing to show for. That's just my opinion though, and I haven't been so sure of anything since I quit WoW back in August 2010. Had a better life since, got out of the addicting habit of gaming. Well, more the addicting habit of MMO's, but I play close to nothing in general anymore. So I feel it's okay for me to play Diablo casually, I'll just have to keep it that way..

And I want to address some of the things you point out; You said it feels like a damn job, which is exactly how I felt playing, and the part about being too tied down and how you relate to other players. More work than fun really. Nothing wrong with team work and success, but my idea of fun isn't how I can't just enjoy my game laid back, having to watch my every step so I don't mess up for others and it's a big deal if one does. Of course, these people are serious and spend a lot of their time to achieve this, virtual grandeur, so each has to play his part. Maybe there was a time like that for me as well, but I'm just too old and it doesn't suit me.

If I do play games now it is to lay back and have some fun, without having responsibilities even when I'm playing the game.. I have my share of those in real life already haha. A game shouldn't be work per say, progress yes, but it shouldn't feel more like actual work than a game. Then you're playing it more like a sport, if that's what you want sure.

Like you said there is a place for MMO's, but thanks but no thanks. And as you said, it's up to you what amount of time you choose to invest in the game, spend time as you have it. With MMO's it's a little more complicated than so, I for one know I can't play one casually. These games urge you to spend more time, the more you spend the more you'll achieve. If you don't want that, then why play an MMO. Diablo should stay Diablo, there are oh so many options for those of you who want MMO's. This is what sets Diablo apart if you ask me.

Oh and yes I've played a few myself. Started with Anarchy Online, guild wars, wow, age of conan, aion, I'm sure there was a few more.. Anyways here's to Diablo becoming that jolly good funtime to be had, with no strings attached. Haha.

OMG! I read the first post and stopped. I've built quite a few (I believe very viable) builds using Temporal Flux as a main consideration and you think it is completely useless?

Oh and having Evocation for only 1 spell that has a cooldown, plus having 3 different ray spells in one build? (I consider Arcane Torrent a Ray in theory). WOW. You have to stand in place a lot to cast don't you. Hope you don't run into several enhanced speed + cold based elites. Cos you don't even have a teleport to get out of trouble, and NO AP REGEN!!!

Short sighted build that only relies on brute force power with no imagination IMO and no AP regen abilities.

Hey everyone,

My friends and I took on a little challenge and decided to create the Diablo 3 logo in Minecraft. For the record, yes all items were spawned, but that was the extent of the *hacking*. It was all built with absurd amounts scaffolding and plenty of grief breaks. Enjoy the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NJSVpdQ3nU

Blizzard has said SEVERAL times now they're designing around the assumption that people will NOT be hotswapping. And they do NOT expect a lot of people to do it regularly. Okay? Can we get that out of the way now? Thank you. Quit assuming the game will be balanced around you swapping skills because it WON'T. Blizzard wants the game to be balanced assuming people DON'T do that.

Now that that is out of way, let's get on to the real points.

The runes are what determine how many charged bolts to use your skill, a level 7 rune does more than a leve l rune. So yes, you will see more scaling of effects beyond just damage through rune levels. And rune types.

I'm pretty sure Blizzard isn't planning to put macros in place to change your abilities. You have to stop killing, open your menu, find the skill, drag it to where you want it. Long process - doesn't seem very fun to me. So I won't.


What's better is MEANINGFUL customization. Skill points have NEVER proven themselves to be that. Remember, I am a game reviewer(admittedly fairly recently starting out as one), I play a ton of games. I've never seen a skill customization system that encouraged me to do anything other than max as many skills as I could to be as powerful as possible. Skills get increasingly more powerful the more points you put in them, not literally, but scalingly. So 1 point may do 1-2 damage, 5 will do 20-22, and 10 will do 100-102. There's no reason to only put 5 in, because I'll be really really weak. So you max out as many skills as the skill point system allows you to, then use whatever few skill points you have left to get utility abilities or in rare cases synergistic abilities. This is a fact. It was this way in D2, it was this way in Dungeon Siege 3, it was this way in dozens of other games which had skill trees. It is ALWAYS this way.

Stat points I will give you in some games HAVE been meaningful and well done. But usually they result in one person finding the optimum and 99.999% of people copying him. In d2 the optimum was as many vitality points as you could after getting youjr strength for items, for one example.

Meaningful customization will be in the choices you make, and I truly expect this game to end up with most people doing what I'll be doing: Designing their character to be a specific character. Ie. I'm going to have Venra the melee Wizardress. She will be that, and unless BLizzard makes it completely 100% useless, that is what she will be. It doesn't matter if I fight enemies that isn't ideal as, she will do what she needs to. Most gamers I've talked to play like that in games like this.

Sure there will be 'professional farmers' who do otherwise, but that's fine too - it's their choice. And that's the beauty of this system, it allows you the choice to play how you most want to. IF you want to build a character and make it a real character there is NOTHING stopping you from doing so. If you want to min max and swap abilities on the fly, there's also nothing stopping you from doing that. And that is truly a beautiful thing in a game - true choice.

Can't help but constantly feel that Anonymous is some sad bunch of young people that have no clue what they're doing, or what they're playing with. But maybe not.

This isn't my fight, I don't even know about Wallstreet. I'm interested to see what will actually happen, if anything will, and I'd be glad if it did make a difference in the grand scheme of things.

But I hope nobody here actually believes they can end any and all abuse without violence. No matter your claims of non violence, no change will come without pain.

why are you yelling at me!?!?

The only issue with that is I think the idea of inferno is for you to want to play the whole level, not just run to the bosses, which is what your idea would promote.

They want you to enjoy fighting act 1 against fallen and hulks and advancing up to Andariel as much as doing continuous meph runs.

I am thinking if they do incentives, it will be based on clearing all of the acts type of setup.