Bots will be in the game but farming high end items will be very difficult to do if inferno is at the level they present it to be. However bots will again prolly make gold in d3 useless by the end of the first year of the game which will suck.
Bots will be in the game but farming high end items will be very difficult to do if inferno is at the level they present it to be. However bots will again prolly make gold in d3 useless by the end of the first year of the game which will suck.
You can't make gold useless...
There are tons of bots and crap in WoW, is gold useless? NO!
Why? Because there is no easily acquired cap. That is the only reason the D2 economy failed to use gold.
If they would simply add a captcha requirement to make a game, with or w/o questions, it would all but eliminate most attempts at botting.
They can be kind of annoying, but given the new style of play in D3 there is no need to make a game every 2 minutes.\
Problem solved...
I also think they need to be tougher on botters, and given the RMAH I think they will be.
Get caught the 1st time, instant Ban of your account.
Get caught the 2nd time, instant Ban of your entire Bnet account.
Get caught 3rd time, instant Ban of your IP.
Or do all 3 at the first sign of cheating...
Really gotta make these guys consider if its worth it...
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One is never hurt by being given additional choices, only by taking them away. A QUADRILLION MAGIC FIND is worthless if you can't kill shit!
prove it, I've seen nothing that suggests otherwise.
You made the claim so the onus is on you to prove that it isn't used to find cheat programs, which is going to be impossible as Warden is used to catch cheat programs. But we're looking forward to you trying!
prove it, I've seen nothing that suggests otherwise.
You made the claim so the onus is on you to prove that it isn't used to find cheat programs, which is going to be impossible as Warden is used to catch cheat programs. But we're looking forward to you trying!
Sphh....obviously blizzard is only interested in looking at our pirated porn collections.
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One is never hurt by being given additional choices, only by taking them away. A QUADRILLION MAGIC FIND is worthless if you can't kill shit!
All I know if that one of my goofball friends got banned for using a simple maphack on D2 several years ago and we all laughed at him. We ended up having to go play some WC3 and DotA on the european battle.net server for a good week or so. But hey, we found a cool british guy and he become a good gamer friend.
The bottom line is that Blizzard will still be busting most script kiddies for using pre-canned bots and hacks in D3. I'm sure a few clever guys will use something on the AH but they will only do as much damage to the so-called economy that mods like Auctioneer or Auctionator did. Whether they will actually make money off of in-game items, gold or bots will depend on the game's popularity. WoW's chinas aren't making anywhere near as much as they used to. It's safe to say you're better off spending those endless hours towards a college degree, saving your money or trying to start your own business.
Of course, there's a pretty good chance that the D3 team will just simply be more lazy than the D2 team was all of these years. If that's the case then all of these new advantages they have will go to waste.
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There's no incentive for blizzard to ban bots they will make a killing off of their sales on the RMAH. Bots will be rampant, bans will be token jestures at best.
I don't really understand your math, but honestly, it's all in vain. Here's what will really happen:
People will purchase items for real money. Blizzard will take their cut of 15% or 1.50. Each transaction will take real money out of the auction economy and send it to Blizzard. There will always have to be new money pumping into the RMAH for it to be sustainable.
Even if you don't put any real money in the auction house, most people will use it, use other people's money. The fees will come out of that cash.
Thus, nearly 100% of money used on the Auction House will eventually go to Blizzard.
The RMAH will definately be used. Hey we're blizzard and we need to make a quick couple million, oh i know well release a mount that anyone can buy for $25 that looks sweet. Oh in the first day we made over 3 million dollars for a fucking stupid mount that adds nothing and doesn't help the character at all.
You really think if that many people will throw away $25 on a mount they won't throw even more money away on a actual rare item that makes them stronger? K.
Ah, another thread of conspiracy bullshit and misinformation. It's almost as good as a cup of coffee.
Literally all you have to do to solve this debate is look at Sc2. Sc2 doesn't have serious hacking issues. There we go, we now have our answer, there's nothing to worry about. Will hacks/bots show up? Sure, they always do. But they will be few and far between.
Botting ruins the game... end story... and if your willing to ruin such a fun game by trying to make a few bucks from the RMHA then the problem is not the bots but the people using them.
Whats funny is you guys speak it like you have facts, that you know, lol.
I would also like to point out that the tin hatter camp came up with the brilliant "Korean RMAH is the reason D3 got delayed" plot, and were proven hilariously wrong.
Bashiok - Blizzard Representative - 08/01/2011 -"So how many skill combinations are there now? Well taking into account 6 active skills, all the rune combinations, and 3 passives we currently expect each class to have roughly 2,285,814,795,264 different build combinations."
"Hey, I thought you'd like the witty irony of grub-on-glowie violence!"
4. Windows as an OS is basically flawed from the beginning, giving admin rights to every single application it runs (not like Linux), so there is no way to STOP bots from reading and writting to memory.
This is a flawed argument, for the following reasons:
1) Windows does NOT (at least, not Vista or 7) give admin rights to every application or service. If it does, then it's because the USER has said it's ok to do so. Heck, the first thing I do when installing Windows 7 for anyone, is to turn up UAC settings so that confirmation is required for any process that needs admin rights, exactly the way it works in Vista.
2) Without the ability to read from or write to memory, every single program in existance will no longer function. Regardless of OS. What the OS can do (and I'm sure Blizzard knows this), is prevent processes reading from or writing to another process' memory pool by isolating processes from one another, unless that process is attempting to write to it's own parent process (as often happens with multi threading). I'm no OS developer, but even so, some processes must be allowed to read from or write to the memory of another, or even the OS itself will not work.
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Bashiok - Blizzard Representative - 08/01/2011 -"So how many skill combinations are there now? Well taking into account 6 active skills, all the rune combinations, and 3 passives we currently expect each class to have roughly 2,285,814,795,264 different build combinations."
"Hey, I thought you'd like the witty irony of grub-on-glowie violence!"
@DGen - I had a small paragraph that shares your views written up earlier, but I said screw it and didn't bother hitting the Post button. I think bots will fail because of the complexity the game adds, but I won't discredit a programmer that will try his/her best to make a functional one. Who knows what will happen. Maybe we're right, or we could be wrong.
You can't make gold useless...
There are tons of bots and crap in WoW, is gold useless? NO!
Why? Because there is no easily acquired cap. That is the only reason the D2 economy failed to use gold.
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If they would simply add a captcha requirement to make a game, with or w/o questions, it would all but eliminate most attempts at botting.
They can be kind of annoying, but given the new style of play in D3 there is no need to make a game every 2 minutes.\
Problem solved...
I also think they need to be tougher on botters, and given the RMAH I think they will be.
Get caught the 1st time, instant Ban of your account.
Get caught the 2nd time, instant Ban of your entire Bnet account.
Get caught 3rd time, instant Ban of your IP.
Or do all 3 at the first sign of cheating...
Really gotta make these guys consider if its worth it...
A QUADRILLION MAGIC FIND is worthless if you can't kill shit!
You made the claim so the onus is on you to prove that it isn't used to find cheat programs, which is going to be impossible as Warden is used to catch cheat programs. But we're looking forward to you trying!
Sphh....obviously blizzard is only interested in looking at our pirated porn collections.
A QUADRILLION MAGIC FIND is worthless if you can't kill shit!
The bottom line is that Blizzard will still be busting most script kiddies for using pre-canned bots and hacks in D3. I'm sure a few clever guys will use something on the AH but they will only do as much damage to the so-called economy that mods like Auctioneer or Auctionator did. Whether they will actually make money off of in-game items, gold or bots will depend on the game's popularity. WoW's chinas aren't making anywhere near as much as they used to. It's safe to say you're better off spending those endless hours towards a college degree, saving your money or trying to start your own business.
Of course, there's a pretty good chance that the D3 team will just simply be more lazy than the D2 team was all of these years. If that's the case then all of these new advantages they have will go to waste.
People will purchase items for real money. Blizzard will take their cut of 15% or 1.50. Each transaction will take real money out of the auction economy and send it to Blizzard. There will always have to be new money pumping into the RMAH for it to be sustainable.
Even if you don't put any real money in the auction house, most people will use it, use other people's money. The fees will come out of that cash.
Thus, nearly 100% of money used on the Auction House will eventually go to Blizzard.
You really think if that many people will throw away $25 on a mount they won't throw even more money away on a actual rare item that makes them stronger? K.
Edit for not refrencing the celestial steed.
Literally all you have to do to solve this debate is look at Sc2. Sc2 doesn't have serious hacking issues. There we go, we now have our answer, there's nothing to worry about. Will hacks/bots show up? Sure, they always do. But they will be few and far between.
Whats funny is you guys speak it like you have facts, that you know, lol.
I would also like to point out that the tin hatter camp came up with the brilliant "Korean RMAH is the reason D3 got delayed" plot, and were proven hilariously wrong.
Bashiok - Blizzard Representative - 08/01/2011 -"So how many skill combinations are there now? Well taking into account 6 active skills, all the rune combinations, and 3 passives we currently expect each class to have roughly 2,285,814,795,264 different build combinations."
"Hey, I thought you'd like the witty irony of grub-on-glowie violence!"
This is a flawed argument, for the following reasons:
1) Windows does NOT (at least, not Vista or 7) give admin rights to every application or service. If it does, then it's because the USER has said it's ok to do so. Heck, the first thing I do when installing Windows 7 for anyone, is to turn up UAC settings so that confirmation is required for any process that needs admin rights, exactly the way it works in Vista.
2) Without the ability to read from or write to memory, every single program in existance will no longer function. Regardless of OS. What the OS can do (and I'm sure Blizzard knows this), is prevent processes reading from or writing to another process' memory pool by isolating processes from one another, unless that process is attempting to write to it's own parent process (as often happens with multi threading). I'm no OS developer, but even so, some processes must be allowed to read from or write to the memory of another, or even the OS itself will not work.
lolwut?
Bashiok - Blizzard Representative - 08/01/2011 -"So how many skill combinations are there now? Well taking into account 6 active skills, all the rune combinations, and 3 passives we currently expect each class to have roughly 2,285,814,795,264 different build combinations."
"Hey, I thought you'd like the witty irony of grub-on-glowie violence!"
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While there may be bots i really don't believe there will be bots that can handle Inferno.