No, it's about piracy. All this tinfoil hat, we never landed on the moon thinking is baseless.
Bottom line is the bill is already dead in the water. It doesn't have the votes. I certainly agree that something needs to be done about piracy, but this is much too restrictive. In the end, the taxpayers will end up footing the bill for something these media companies could easily afford.
Well, the wording of both the bills is ambiguous enough to send most of the forum to prison for their avatars alone. (Illegal usage of that hamster that Seth uses would send his sorry little ass to prison. You know, because that has to do with pirating.) If that doesn't scare you, it should.
Anyway, I have no problem with a piracy bill, because there is nothing the government can do to stop piracy. But this bill is not a piracy bill.
(Another thing, the Curse Network would almost certainly go down due to this bill if it passed. That includes Diablofans, MMO-Champion, Diablowiki, Curse Forge, and everything else. Just an fyi.)
I'm aware of the issues with the bill. However, something will eventually be done. There is massive amount of pirating taking place that is instilling the government to take action. Maybe the pirating is just the pretty cover they want to put on it and hide all of their dirty secrets inside. But at the end, the pirating of all of this intellectual property is an issue that does need to be addressed. Hopefully when it finally is, more good will be done than bad.
You know, thats always an interesting subject. Because if there was a way to stop piracy without affecting rights, scaring people, removing freedom or destroying the internet as we know it, it would have been done by now. Killing piracy would require extensive amount of control. Its as crazy as trying to stop all the drug dealers by controlling every corner of every city. The only way you can stop it (that I can see) is by having full control over everything.
Its a noble intention to try and stop piracy, but I have not seen a single suggestion against piracy, from governments or from individual companies, that didn't hurt something, and the more it would hinder them, the worse it is for the people.
Thats why I believe in adapting instead of trying to kill it. The industry has changed yet plenty are still extremely successful on all levels. Why can't we just learn to adapt to this instead of trying to control everything? Because that will NOT end well.
I'm honestly in support of blocking piracy/torrent sites.
I cannot think of a legitimate reason not to except people who want to download from it. Piracy is NOT free speech, and if a website doesn't want to be blocked then it should simply prevent contributing to piracy.
You know that whole thing about it being illegal but not morally wrong to steal a loaf of bread to keep from starving to death, yadda yadda? With the recession we're in and the ridiculously high unemployment rates, is it so illegitimate and immortal to pirate content instead of just doing without? I know myself & many friends have pirated a CD of a band we never had heard of, it got us really into their stuff, and then we bought tickets to see them in concert. No pirating that CD = no ticket sold to us, because why would we have been interested in the first place?
That's a stretch and you know it (hopefully). The ends don't justify the means, and comparing it to stealing a loaf of bread to feed a starving family is, well, silly.
Anyways, the bigger deal here in general is the bill is NOT 100% intended to control piracy, it's to control the use of the internet under the guise of stopping copyright infringement.
No, it's about piracy. All this tinfoil hat, we never landed on the moon thinking is baseless.
Bottom line is the bill is already dead in the water. It doesn't have the votes. I certainly agree that something needs to be done about piracy, but this is much too restrictive. In the end, the taxpayers will end up footing the bill for something these media companies could easily afford.
It might be a lil' bit of a stretch, but you know what else is stretched? Taffy, and taffy is delicious.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist but it's really easy to see how they could get the OK to ban websites who don't intervene when pirated material is discussed etc, which it utterly ridiculous. To think it won't be abused to stop sites & individuals who tread that thin middle line, is just nieve & you know it (hopefully.)
No, it's about piracy. All this tinfoil hat, we never landed on the moon thinking is baseless.
Bottom line is the bill is already dead in the water. It doesn't have the votes. I certainly agree that something needs to be done about piracy, but this is much too restrictive. In the end, the taxpayers will end up footing the bill for something these media companies could easily afford.
Well, the wording of both the bills is ambiguous enough to send most of the forum to prison for their avatars alone. (Illegal usage of that hamster that Seth uses would send his sorry little ass to prison. You know, because that has to do with pirating.) If that doesn't scare you, it should.
Exactly, which is why I say it's much too restrictive, which is why it won't pass.
Anyway, I have no problem with a piracy bill, because there is nothing the government can do to stop piracy. But this bill is not a piracy bill.
Of course they could if they wanted to. It would be quite easy to lock everything down. And it most certainly is a piracy bill. There's really no other logical reason for it.
I'm honestly in support of blocking piracy/torrent sites.
I cannot think of a legitimate reason not to except people who want to download from it. Piracy is NOT free speech, and if a website doesn't want to be blocked then it should simply prevent contributing to piracy.
You know that whole thing about it being illegal but not morally wrong to steal a loaf of bread to keep from starving to death, yadda yadda? With the recession we're in and the ridiculously high unemployment rates, is it so illegitimate and immortal to pirate content instead of just doing without? I know myself & many friends have pirated a CD of a band we never had heard of, it got us really into their stuff, and then we bought tickets to see them in concert. No pirating that CD = no ticket sold to us, because why would we have been interested in the first place?
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Anyways, the bigger deal here in general is the bill is NOT 100% intended to control piracy, it's to control the use of the internet under the guise of stopping copyright infringement.
Your analogy, and comparisons are both terrible. You should be ashamed of yourself for even attempting to defend stealing software and comparing it to morals, and then trying to spin it off as something positive for the creators. You *need* to eat, you don't *need* to play games/watch videos/listen to music/surf the internet. Hurp.
While I'm completely against the regulation of information, your post is just ridiculous.
People will just migrate and host their sites in other countries that aren't stupid. We'll also see a surge in paid, reliable proxies. It's not the end of the world, it's just an inconvenience because America feels obligated to control the world.
It's not the end of the world, it's just an inconvenience because America feels obligated to control the world.
Aside from allowing the American government to send people to jail for bullshit reasons that is currently acceptable and completely legal. (How DARE you post a video of Diablo 2! That is against the law now!)
It's not the end of the world, it's just an inconvenience because America feels obligated to control the world.
Aside from allowing the American government to send people to jail for bullshit reasons that is currently acceptable and completely legal. (How DARE you post a video of Diablo 2! That is against the law now!)
it will be the same thing as piracy now. there will be far too many MILLIONS of people posting/downloading ect. that they cant possibly throw everyone in jail. it will fail like every other time
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"once the pretty hardcore gamers we had testing inferno found it fairly difficult, we then we doubled it" -trolololol jay wilson
it will be the same thing as piracy now. there will be far too many MILLIONS of people posting/downloading ect. that they cant possibly throw everyone in jail. it will fail like every other time
Not exactly. As I've said nearly 50 times now, sites like Facebook, Twitter, Myspace, Youtube, and the countless forums on the internet could and would easily be shut down due to the ambiguity of the bills.
it will be the same thing as piracy now. there will be far too many MILLIONS of people posting/downloading ect. that they cant possibly throw everyone in jail. it will fail like every other time
Not exactly. As I've said nearly 50 times now, sites like Facebook, Twitter, Myspace, Youtube, and the countless forums on the internet could and would easily be shut down due to the ambiguity of the bills.
you dont have enough faith in the american people to QQ. because if those specific sites got shut down (which i find it impossible that they ever would considering the BILLIONS they generate in revenue) there would be a nation wide revolution, the people that use those sites combined reaches the hundreds of millions, impossible to shut down. i for one would assassinate the president and bomb congress, and thats just me. (jk )
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"once the pretty hardcore gamers we had testing inferno found it fairly difficult, we then we doubled it" -trolololol jay wilson
you dont have enough faith in the american people to QQ. because if those specific sites got shut down (which i find it impossible that they ever would considering the BILLIONS they generate in revenue) there would be a nation wide revolution, the people that use those sites combined reaches the hundreds of millions, impossible to shut down. i for one would assassinate the president and bomb congress, and thats just me. (jk )
How long did it take for the Occupations accross America to start? How many years?
Yea, I don't see a big revolt because the government shut down Youtube.
It's wrong, and it's immoral, but nobody would revolt. They are too lazy.
you dont have enough faith in the american people to QQ. because if those specific sites got shut down (which i find it impossible that they ever would considering the BILLIONS they generate in revenue) there would be a nation wide revolution, the people that use those sites combined reaches the hundreds of millions, impossible to shut down. i for one would assassinate the president and bomb congress, and thats just me. (jk )
How long did it take for the Occupations accross America to start? How many years?
Yea, I don't see a big revolt because the government shut down Youtube.
It's wrong, and it's immoral, but nobody would revolt. They are too lazy.
im saying all of them. if youtube got shut down other sites like it would pop up, heck theres hundreds of youtube sites on the internet. if they simultaneously closed all those sites, your extremely ignorant to believe people would do nothing, not even mentioning that the people who own those sites generate so much money they could literally have people killed and change congress's decision if they actually got shut down. or just have their companies based in countries that dont extradite or care and then problem solved, all sites are back up in a week. the government can TRY whatever they want, doesnt mean they will succeed in the least.
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"once the pretty hardcore gamers we had testing inferno found it fairly difficult, we then we doubled it" -trolololol jay wilson
I'm honestly in support of blocking piracy/torrent sites.
I cannot think of a legitimate reason not to except people who want to download from it. Piracy is NOT free speech, and if a website doesn't want to be blocked then it should simply prevent contributing to piracy.
You know that whole thing about it being illegal but not morally wrong to steal a loaf of bread to keep from starving to death, yadda yadda? With the recession we're in and the ridiculously high unemployment rates, is it so illegitimate and immortal to pirate content instead of just doing without? I know myself & many friends have pirated a CD of a band we never had heard of, it got us really into their stuff, and then we bought tickets to see them in concert. No pirating that CD = no ticket sold to us, because why would we have been interested in the first place?
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Anyways, the bigger deal here in general is the bill is NOT 100% intended to control piracy, it's to control the use of the internet under the guise of stopping copyright infringement.
Your analogy, and comparisons are both terrible. You should be ashamed of yourself for even attempting to defend stealing software and comparing it to morals, and then trying to spin it off as something positive for the creators. You *need* to eat, you don't *need* to play games/watch videos/listen to music/surf the internet. Hurp.
While I'm completely against the regulation of information, your post is just ridiculous.
People will just migrate and host their sites in other countries that aren't stupid. We'll also see a surge in paid, reliable proxies. It's not the end of the world, it's just an inconvenience because America feels obligated to control the world.
You should loosen up and have a bit of a sense of humor. I think you're too wound up right now but it could be because of the whole Thanksgiving stressful holiday season. All that aside, it's kinda dumb to deny someone something that they were going to pirate, if they had 100% no intention of watching/playing/listening to it otherwise. There's obviously an issue with pirating when it steals money from companies, but it gets away from fairness and towards greed when you want to keep someone from listening to music they wouldn't give a shit about if they had to pay for it.
im saying all of them. if youtube got shut down other sites like it would pop up, heck theres hundreds of youtube sites on the internet. if they simultaneously closed all those sites, your extremely ignorant to believe people would do nothing, not even mentioning that the people who own those sites generate so much money they could literally have people killed and change congress's decision if they actually got shut down. or just have their companies based in countries that dont extradite or care and then problem solved, all sites are back up in a week. the government can TRY whatever they want, doesnt mean they will succeed in the least.
If you believe this, you misunderstand the bill.
Lets say Youtube is shut down. They then reopen Youtube in a modern nation like England or France or Germany or somewhere, where they have brains.
America goes to the ISP's like Verizon and Sudden Link and demand that they block all communications with those sites. The ISP refuses, and the government waves the new law in their faces and they are forced to comply.
It would still be possible to connect to the sites from America via their IP address, but the vast majority of the American population would loose access.
This does nothing for pirating, and everything for fucking the American Citizen population up the ass with a rusty tire iron and no lube.
LinkX from what I see of your posts on this forum you seem to be damn near an anarchist. Every thread you get passionate about is something about how someone is trying to stop you from doing what YOU want and therefore they are wrong. (Blizzard opposing Mods, this thread, etc).
Back on topic:
First, you are wrong btw LinkX. You guys think you can simply get around a firewall block by typing the IP address rather than the DNS.... well sir thats not correct. All foreign websites (like piratebay) are channelled through entry points into the United States. If the firewall was set to block the IP specifically then it cannot be accessed unless the IP address changes. Since the use of IPv4 addresses is extremely overdone (with only 4Million possible addresses, and signficantly more machines connected), the ability to change IP addresses on the fly won't be easy...
Second, if you actually understood copyright laws... (which you don't) you would understand that videos, photos, etc are not natively copyrighted and according to some case law... unless the work is bannered as copyrighted, it does not maintain the same rights. Software is a different story due to the fact that that almost always the headers in the code contains copyrights... and unless its opensource its almost always copyrighted.
Third, again... you simply don't understand copyright law and you are argueing simply because you cannot stand someone impeding you from doing what YOU want (seems like a partial form of hedonism). As my major is computer forensics... and 90% of private sector CF is intellectual property theft... I have had alot of copyright law classes. I don't have my old textbooks on me atm, but I can lay down the case law on you if you deem necessary.
LinkX from what I see of your posts on this forum you seem to be damn near an anarchist. Every thread you get passionate about is something about how someone is trying to stop you from doing what YOU want and therefore they are wrong. (Blizzard opposing Mods, this thread, etc).
Back on topic:
First, you are wrong btw LinkX. You guys think you can simply get around a firewall block by typing the IP address rather than the DNS.... well sir thats not correct. All foreign websites (like piratebay) are channelled through entry points into the United States. If the firewall was set to block the IP specifically then it cannot be accessed unless the IP address changes. Since the use of IPv4 addresses is extremely overdone (with only 4Million possible addresses, and signficantly more machines connected), the ability to change IP addresses on the fly won't be easy...
Second, if you actually understood copyright laws... (which you don't) you would understand that videos, photos, etc are not natively copyrighted and according to some case law... unless the work is bannered as copyrighted, it does not maintain the same rights. Software is a different story due to the fact that that almost always the headers in the code contains copyrights... and unless its opensource its almost always copyrighted.
Third, again... you simply don't understand copyright law and you are argueing simply because you cannot stand someone impeding you from doing what YOU want (seems like a partial form of hedonism). As my major is computer forensics... and 90% of private sector CF is intellectual property theft... I have had alot of copyright law classes. I don't have my old textbooks on me atm, but I can lay down the case law on you if you deem necessary.
Well, you're obviously very passionate about your dislike of LinkX & your stance on his anarchistic tendencies. I just want to say that maybe we could approach the whole 'pirating' situation from the opposite direction? Maybe the laws we have in place are outdated and not completely relevant to the digital age? Perhaps... and this may be shocking to some but, make it so what is considered 'digital piracy' not-illegal? Who knows, I'm just throwing ideas around.
im saying all of them. if youtube got shut down other sites like it would pop up, heck theres hundreds of youtube sites on the internet. if they simultaneously closed all those sites, your extremely ignorant to believe people would do nothing, not even mentioning that the people who own those sites generate so much money they could literally have people killed and change congress's decision if they actually got shut down. or just have their companies based in countries that dont extradite or care and then problem solved, all sites are back up in a week. the government can TRY whatever they want, doesnt mean they will succeed in the least.
If you believe this, you misunderstand the bill.
Lets say Youtube is shut down. They then reopen Youtube in a modern nation like England or France or Germany or somewhere, where they have brains.
America goes to the ISP's like Verizon and Sudden Link and demand that they block all communications with those sites. The ISP refuses, and the government waves the new law in their faces and they are forced to comply.
It would still be possible to connect to the sites from America via their IP address, but the vast majority of the American population would loose access.
This does nothing for pirating, and everything for fucking the American Citizen population up the ass with a rusty tire iron and no lube.
and again once that happened the companys who generate billions will do whats necessary to make sure they are put back up. say you were the owner of facebook or google, you have billions and could literally do anything you wanted, the government says there going to shut you down. your just going to bend over? lmao. ya NOT. simply passing money to the right congressmen and women will get the bill revoked or changed in their favor. its NOT going to happen, your just insanely paranoid link. the government isnt trying to total control, because if they got anywhere close america would lose its shit. just calm down and realize its not going to happen
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"once the pretty hardcore gamers we had testing inferno found it fairly difficult, we then we doubled it" -trolololol jay wilson
im saying all of them. if youtube got shut down other sites like it would pop up, heck theres hundreds of youtube sites on the internet. if they simultaneously closed all those sites, your extremely ignorant to believe people would do nothing, not even mentioning that the people who own those sites generate so much money they could literally have people killed and change congress's decision if they actually got shut down. or just have their companies based in countries that dont extradite or care and then problem solved, all sites are back up in a week. the government can TRY whatever they want, doesnt mean they will succeed in the least.
If you believe this, you misunderstand the bill.
Lets say Youtube is shut down. They then reopen Youtube in a modern nation like England or France or Germany or somewhere, where they have brains.
America goes to the ISP's like Verizon and Sudden Link and demand that they block all communications with those sites. The ISP refuses, and the government waves the new law in their faces and they are forced to comply.
It would still be possible to connect to the sites from America via their IP address, but the vast majority of the American population would loose access.
This does nothing for pirating, and everything for fucking the American Citizen population up the ass with a rusty tire iron and no lube.
and again once that happened the companys who generate billions will do whats necessary to make sure they are put back up. say you were the owner of facebook or google, you have billions and could literally do anything you wanted, the government says there going to shut you down. your just going to bend over? lmao. ya NOT. simply passing money to the right congressmen and women will get the bill revoked or changed in their favor. its NOT going to happen, your just insanely paranoid link. the government isnt trying to total control, because if they got anywhere close america would lose its shit. just calm down and realize its not going to happen
Just gonna throw this in here, the government has shut down big corporations before and almost shut down Microsoft but didn't due to that such an action would make Bill Gates only even richer than he was at the time.
Just gonna throw this in here, the government has shut down big corporations before and almost shut down Microsoft but didn't due to that such an action would make Bill Gates only even richer than he was at the time.
im aware the government has shut down companies thats nothing new. but huh? how would shutting down microsoft make him richer? and WHY were they going to shut it down?
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"once the pretty hardcore gamers we had testing inferno found it fairly difficult, we then we doubled it" -trolololol jay wilson
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Well, the wording of both the bills is ambiguous enough to send most of the forum to prison for their avatars alone. (Illegal usage of that hamster that Seth uses would send his sorry little ass to prison. You know, because that has to do with pirating.) If that doesn't scare you, it should.
Anyway, I have no problem with a piracy bill, because there is nothing the government can do to stop piracy. But this bill is not a piracy bill.
(Another thing, the Curse Network would almost certainly go down due to this bill if it passed. That includes Diablofans, MMO-Champion, Diablowiki, Curse Forge, and everything else. Just an fyi.)
Only time I used proxies were when I used 2000+ bots to take down op channels and clan channels in Starcraft.
From what I've read there's no mention of a firewall, thread title misleading.
Edit: And what's this about there being 2 bills? If this is true can I have a link to the second one?
Its a noble intention to try and stop piracy, but I have not seen a single suggestion against piracy, from governments or from individual companies, that didn't hurt something, and the more it would hinder them, the worse it is for the people.
Thats why I believe in adapting instead of trying to kill it. The industry has changed yet plenty are still extremely successful on all levels. Why can't we just learn to adapt to this instead of trying to control everything? Because that will NOT end well.
It might be a lil' bit of a stretch, but you know what else is stretched? Taffy, and taffy is delicious.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist but it's really easy to see how they could get the OK to ban websites who don't intervene when pirated material is discussed etc, which it utterly ridiculous. To think it won't be abused to stop sites & individuals who tread that thin middle line, is just nieve & you know it (hopefully.)
Exactly, which is why I say it's much too restrictive, which is why it won't pass.
Of course they could if they wanted to. It would be quite easy to lock everything down. And it most certainly is a piracy bill. There's really no other logical reason for it.
Too easy to get around. If someone wants to find you, they will.
Your analogy, and comparisons are both terrible. You should be ashamed of yourself for even attempting to defend stealing software and comparing it to morals, and then trying to spin it off as something positive for the creators. You *need* to eat, you don't *need* to play games/watch videos/listen to music/surf the internet. Hurp.
While I'm completely against the regulation of information, your post is just ridiculous.
People will just migrate and host their sites in other countries that aren't stupid. We'll also see a surge in paid, reliable proxies. It's not the end of the world, it's just an inconvenience because America feels obligated to control the world.
There are two bills. I haven't the link for the other one on hand.
Aside from allowing the American government to send people to jail for bullshit reasons that is currently acceptable and completely legal. (How DARE you post a video of Diablo 2! That is against the law now!)
it will be the same thing as piracy now. there will be far too many MILLIONS of people posting/downloading ect. that they cant possibly throw everyone in jail. it will fail like every other time
Not exactly. As I've said nearly 50 times now, sites like Facebook, Twitter, Myspace, Youtube, and the countless forums on the internet could and would easily be shut down due to the ambiguity of the bills.
you dont have enough faith in the american people to QQ. because if those specific sites got shut down (which i find it impossible that they ever would considering the BILLIONS they generate in revenue) there would be a nation wide revolution, the people that use those sites combined reaches the hundreds of millions, impossible to shut down. i for one would assassinate the president and bomb congress, and thats just me.
How long did it take for the Occupations accross America to start? How many years?
Yea, I don't see a big revolt because the government shut down Youtube.
It's wrong, and it's immoral, but nobody would revolt. They are too lazy.
im saying all of them. if youtube got shut down other sites like it would pop up, heck theres hundreds of youtube sites on the internet. if they simultaneously closed all those sites, your extremely ignorant to believe people would do nothing, not even mentioning that the people who own those sites generate so much money they could literally have people killed and change congress's decision if they actually got shut down. or just have their companies based in countries that dont extradite or care and then problem solved, all sites are back up in a week. the government can TRY whatever they want, doesnt mean they will succeed in the least.
You should loosen up and have a bit of a sense of humor. I think you're too wound up right now but it could be because of the whole Thanksgiving stressful holiday season. All that aside, it's kinda dumb to deny someone something that they were going to pirate, if they had 100% no intention of watching/playing/listening to it otherwise. There's obviously an issue with pirating when it steals money from companies, but it gets away from fairness and towards greed when you want to keep someone from listening to music they wouldn't give a shit about if they had to pay for it.
If you believe this, you misunderstand the bill.
Lets say Youtube is shut down. They then reopen Youtube in a modern nation like England or France or Germany or somewhere, where they have brains.
America goes to the ISP's like Verizon and Sudden Link and demand that they block all communications with those sites. The ISP refuses, and the government waves the new law in their faces and they are forced to comply.
It would still be possible to connect to the sites from America via their IP address, but the vast majority of the American population would loose access.
This does nothing for pirating, and everything for fucking the American Citizen population up the ass with a rusty tire iron and no lube.
Back on topic:
First, you are wrong btw LinkX. You guys think you can simply get around a firewall block by typing the IP address rather than the DNS.... well sir thats not correct. All foreign websites (like piratebay) are channelled through entry points into the United States. If the firewall was set to block the IP specifically then it cannot be accessed unless the IP address changes. Since the use of IPv4 addresses is extremely overdone (with only 4Million possible addresses, and signficantly more machines connected), the ability to change IP addresses on the fly won't be easy...
Second, if you actually understood copyright laws... (which you don't) you would understand that videos, photos, etc are not natively copyrighted and according to some case law... unless the work is bannered as copyrighted, it does not maintain the same rights. Software is a different story due to the fact that that almost always the headers in the code contains copyrights... and unless its opensource its almost always copyrighted.
Third, again... you simply don't understand copyright law and you are argueing simply because you cannot stand someone impeding you from doing what YOU want (seems like a partial form of hedonism). As my major is computer forensics... and 90% of private sector CF is intellectual property theft... I have had alot of copyright law classes. I don't have my old textbooks on me atm, but I can lay down the case law on you if you deem necessary.
Well, you're obviously very passionate about your dislike of LinkX & your stance on his anarchistic tendencies. I just want to say that maybe we could approach the whole 'pirating' situation from the opposite direction? Maybe the laws we have in place are outdated and not completely relevant to the digital age? Perhaps... and this may be shocking to some but, make it so what is considered 'digital piracy' not-illegal? Who knows, I'm just throwing ideas around.
and again once that happened the companys who generate billions will do whats necessary to make sure they are put back up. say you were the owner of facebook or google, you have billions and could literally do anything you wanted, the government says there going to shut you down. your just going to bend over? lmao. ya NOT. simply passing money to the right congressmen and women will get the bill revoked or changed in their favor. its NOT going to happen, your just insanely paranoid link. the government isnt trying to total control, because if they got anywhere close america would lose its shit. just calm down and realize its not going to happen
Just gonna throw this in here, the government has shut down big corporations before and almost shut down Microsoft but didn't due to that such an action would make Bill Gates only even richer than he was at the time.
im aware the government has shut down companies thats nothing new. but huh? how would shutting down microsoft make him richer? and WHY were they going to shut it down?