I read about SOPA and just think i want to move now. It is seriously pathetic at what could be done now by the government and people have no care in the world.
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I read about SOPA and just think i want to move now. It is seriously pathetic at what could be done now by the government and people have no care in the world.
Where do you intend on moving? If it gets passed in the U.S. it'll be inevitably passed everywhere...
I read about SOPA and just think i want to move now. It is seriously pathetic at what could be done now by the government and people have no care in the world.
Where do you intend on moving? If it gets passed in the U.S. it'll be inevitably passed everywhere...
Somewhere that doesn't give a fuck about america because they realize it is the next to fall.
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Technically no. The bill will only affect websites hosted outside the US. So Youtube, Facebook, Diablofans, etc wouldn't be effected. DMCA is the law over US sites. Shutting down foreign sites doesn't bother me. Close them down, I don't care. What does bother me is the changes they want to make to the DNS system and the possible impact it would have on some up-and-coming payment processing sites. Either way, SOPA is a knee-jerk reaction to try and kill off piracy.
Technically no. The bill will only affect websites hosted outside the US. So Youtube, Facebook, Diablofans, etc wouldn't be effected. DMCA is the law over US sites. Shutting down foreign sites doesn't bother me. Close them down, I don't care. What does bother me is the changes they want to make to the DNS system and the possible impact it would have on some up-and-coming payment processing sites. Either way, SOPA is a knee-jerk reaction to try and kill off piracy.
What you mean to say is YouTube, Facebook, etc would be affected because they're full of copyrighted material being used without permission (i.e. covering your favorite band's song or singing along to your favorite artist).
Technically no. The bill will only affect websites hosted outside the US. So Youtube, Facebook, Diablofans, etc wouldn't be effected. DMCA is the law over US sites. Shutting down foreign sites doesn't bother me. Close them down, I don't care. What does bother me is the changes they want to make to the DNS system and the possible impact it would have on some up-and-coming payment processing sites. Either way, SOPA is a knee-jerk reaction to try and kill off piracy.
What you mean to say is YouTube, Facebook, etc would be affected because they're full of copyrighted material being used without permission (i.e. covering your favorite band's song or singing along to your favorite artist).
Also, the actual bill is a pretty dry read, but they are very specific about separating foreign and domestic sites. DMCA governs sites located within the US, SOPA would govern US-directed foreign sites. US-directed, meaning foreign websites that specifically direct their business toward US citizens. http://thomas.loc.go...?c112:H.R.3261:
And some proposed amendments http://infojustice.o...rkup-Dec-15.pdf
Technically no. The bill will only affect websites hosted outside the US. So Youtube, Facebook, Diablofans, etc wouldn't be effected. DMCA is the law over US sites. Shutting down foreign sites doesn't bother me. Close them down, I don't care. What does bother me is the changes they want to make to the DNS system and the possible impact it would have on some up-and-coming payment processing sites. Either way, SOPA is a knee-jerk reaction to try and kill off piracy.
What you mean to say is YouTube, Facebook, etc would be affected because they're full of copyrighted material being used without permission (i.e. covering your favorite band's song or singing along to your favorite artist).
Also, the actual bill is a pretty dry read, but they are very specific about separating foreign and domestic sites. DMCA governs sites located within the US, SOPA would govern US-directed foreign sites. US-directed, meaning foreign websites that specifically direct their business toward US citizens. http://thomas.loc.go...?c112:H.R.3261:
And some proposed amendments http://infojustice.o...rkup-Dec-15.pdf
I just have 1 major thing to say here, 1 more than any other. "Meaning foreign websites that specifically direct their business toward US citizens.". Thepiratebay.org is a foreign website.
If it's with my dying breath I'll personally fucking see to it this bill never goes ANYWHERE.
Edit: DMCA is just as hyper-fucking-dangerous as SOPA (except it affects domains inside U.S. borders) and both should be lit on fire with napalm and thrown into the Grand Canyon.
I just have 1 major thing to say here, 1 more than any other. "Meaning foreign websites that specifically direct their business toward US citizens.". Thepiratebay.org is a foreign website.
Yeah, it is a foreign website but it is a .org. It falls under the DMCA
If it's with my dying breath I'll personally fucking see to it this bill never goes ANYWHERE.
It won't. But something someday will be passed.
Edit: DMCA is just as hyper-fucking-dangerous as SOPA (except it affects domains inside U.S. borders) and both should be lit on fire with napalm and thrown into the Grand Canyon.
Hehe, DMCA is a cute little puppy compared to SOPA and is nowhere near as far-reaching. DMCA is a rational bill that was needed and was done correctly.
Hehe, DMCA is a cute little puppy compared to SOPA and is nowhere near as far-reaching. DMCA is a rational bill that was needed and was done correctly.
Perhaps this is where we agree to disagree. I don't have a problem with online piracy....
Hehe, DMCA is a cute little puppy compared to SOPA and is nowhere near as far-reaching. DMCA is a rational bill that was needed and was done correctly.
Perhaps this is where we agree to disagree. I don't have a problem with online piracy....
me neither. who are we stealing from? oh the millionaire to billionaire movie stars and singers? so they can't buy a 27th car that they will never use? lolol
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"once the pretty hardcore gamers we had testing inferno found it fairly difficult, we then we doubled it" -trolololol jay wilson
Hehe, DMCA is a cute little puppy compared to SOPA and is nowhere near as far-reaching. DMCA is a rational bill that was needed and was done correctly.
Perhaps this is where we agree to disagree. I don't have a problem with online piracy....
me neither. who are we stealing from? oh the millionaire to billionaire movie stars and singers? so they can't buy a 27th car that they will never use? lolol
Those involved with indie music and movies are also affected. They usually have a hard enough time affording one vehicle.
Hehe, DMCA is a cute little puppy compared to SOPA and is nowhere near as far-reaching. DMCA is a rational bill that was needed and was done correctly.
Perhaps this is where we agree to disagree. I don't have a problem with online piracy....
me neither. who are we stealing from? oh the millionaire to billionaire movie stars and singers? so they can't buy a 27th car that they will never use? lolol
Those involved with indie music and movies are also affected. They usually have a hard enough time affording one vehicle.
pick a career field that doesnt have everyone on earth trying to make it big? i dont have a problem with online piracy from the rich, stealing music/movies from the poor is just sad. i only steal main stream movies n music, if there is a small band i like i will buy their CD.
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"once the pretty hardcore gamers we had testing inferno found it fairly difficult, we then we doubled it" -trolololol jay wilson
Government already controls mostly everything ... leeches ..... they decide to restrict internet now. NOW NOW how about we talk about getting down to actual real problems like your horrible way to handle money.
Warning: There are idiots in Washington DC right now
i dont have a problem with online piracy from the rich, stealing music/movies from the poor is just sad. i only steal main stream movies n music, if there is a small band i like i will buy their CD.
Therein lies the rub. People say they don't have a problem with online piracy until the little guy is mentioned.
i dont have a problem with online piracy from the rich, stealing music/movies from the poor is just sad. i only steal main stream movies n music, if there is a small band i like i will buy their CD.
Therein lies the rub. People say they don't have a problem with online piracy until the little guy is mentioned.
the little guy is a small small minority in online piracy. and like i said, pick a career field thats not the most difficult one to break into in the world
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"once the pretty hardcore gamers we had testing inferno found it fairly difficult, we then we doubled it" -trolololol jay wilson
Copyright pretty much means ownership, so piracy is stealing in a way. I do think, however, that the prices of the games are way too high and do it occasionally, mostly to try out games before buying them (made some pretty horrible choices in the past and it's not like I'm rich or something).
I also strongly dislike the way most companies try to fight piracy: DRMs that tend to make the lives of people who actually buy the games hard instead of actually protecting their product. Most "software pirates" simply install the patch and rid themselves of the issues the paying customers have to live through.
Either way, I don't think a country could/should act on it alone. It should either be an international agreement (as to which sites to include to the said list too) or there shouldn't be anything at all. Cause if it only goes one way, there's no telling what kind of sites the States (or any country that does the same) could include and for what reasons (propaganda/keeping people in the dark on certain matters being the obvious one).
I can't be the only one, but none of the stuff I pirate I would buy anyways, nobody loses a dime when I pirate. I have Netflix, I have blu-rays in my home, I have original xbox 360 games (just bought Skyrim), I'm definitely buying Diablo 3.
But I'll tell you what, if I pirate a PC game and play it for a whole one hour because it's garbage, that's not worth $60 and I would have been pissed if I had bought it (Bioshock, I don't know why, touted as game of the year or something and I played for an hour and got bored, glad I got that on Gamefly when I had it). Let's just say I would never pay for a music album since musicians get **ckall from the album sales anyways and I despise the record labels reaming them. If someone makes their own album and I know they're getting the profit I'll buy it, but that's hard to even find. Photoshop $700? No way I would buy that anyways, either I pirate it or I use a freeware app. I got bored pirating MS Office and just went to OpenOffice.
I can't be the only one, but none of the stuff I pirate I would buy anyways, nobody loses a dime when I pirate. I have Netflix, I have blu-rays in my home, I have original xbox 360 games (just bought Skyrim), I'm definitely buying Diablo 3.
But I'll tell you what, if I pirate a PC game and play it for a whole one hour because it's garbage, that's not worth $60 and I would have been pissed if I had bought it (Bioshock, I don't know why, touted as game of the year or something and I played for an hour and got bored, glad I got that on Gamefly when I had it). Let's just say I would never pay for a music album since musicians get **ckall from the album sales anyways and I despise the record labels reaming them. If someone makes their own album and I know they're getting the profit I'll buy it, but that's hard to even find. Photoshop $700? No way I would buy that anyways, either I pirate it or I use a freeware app. I got bored pirating MS Office and just went to OpenOffice.
The only people that actually complain about piracy that I believe have a legit gripe are PC game developers.
You're surely not the only one. All the movies I pirate I've either paid to see in theaters and want the option to see again (and I never buy DVDs even from before I pirated) or they're movies I wouldn't see anyways. All the games I pirate, I wouldn't have bought. Games I actually want (Skyrim, MW3, D3 CE, etc) I go and buy.
Everyone who complains about the little guy getting pirated and fucked over needs to go check out Louis C.K.'s newest stand-up. He spent about a total $200k to make it (it's called Live At The Beacon Theater) and did most of the editing himself at home on his Mac, staying up all night. He made a lil' website and put it up there for $5 for the video with no DRM (downloadable and streamable), and welcomed people to pirate it if they didn't want to pay for it. 12 hours after he released it for $5 a pop he grossed $550k. After 2 days it was at $800k, and he's by now grossed over $1.1 million. He did all that with only a handful of people working on the whole film with him and NO company producing or marketing it. He even said himself he made a lot more this way than he would've if he had a big company promote it for him etc. So let's see here, he made more money AND the people who wanted to pay for it paid a measly $5? Win-win!!!
Most game developers should get pirated, most games coming out nowadays SUCK. Would you rather the community start to turn against developers because they're buying shitty shit time after time, or would you rather some companies lose money from their horrid game flopping and getting pirated instead of purchased? The real stand-out amazing companies developing fantastic games have always (and IMO will always) be profitable.
Most game developers should get pirated, most games coming out nowadays SUCK. Would you rather the community start to turn against developers because they're buying shitty shit time after time, or would you rather some companies lose money from their horrid game flopping and getting pirated instead of purchased? The real stand-out amazing companies developing fantastic games have always (and IMO will always) be profitable.
definitely agree. ive wasted literally hundreds of dollars on second rate shit ass games over the years and i refuse to buy anymore. if i want to test out a game ill pirate it and then delete it and buy it if its good.
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"once the pretty hardcore gamers we had testing inferno found it fairly difficult, we then we doubled it" -trolololol jay wilson
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Where do you intend on moving? If it gets passed in the U.S. it'll be inevitably passed everywhere...
Somewhere that doesn't give a fuck about america because they realize it is the next to fall.
http://lifehacker.com/firefox-extensions/
Technically no. The bill will only affect websites hosted outside the US. So Youtube, Facebook, Diablofans, etc wouldn't be effected. DMCA is the law over US sites. Shutting down foreign sites doesn't bother me. Close them down, I don't care. What does bother me is the changes they want to make to the DNS system and the possible impact it would have on some up-and-coming payment processing sites. Either way, SOPA is a knee-jerk reaction to try and kill off piracy.
What you mean to say is YouTube, Facebook, etc would be affected because they're full of copyrighted material being used without permission (i.e. covering your favorite band's song or singing along to your favorite artist).
Don't buy into the misinformation being spread throughout the net. SOPA will only affect foreign websites, not websites based in the US. So no, it won't affect them.
Some good reading
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/22/2648219/stop-online-piracy-act-sopa-what-is-it
Also, the actual bill is a pretty dry read, but they are very specific about separating foreign and domestic sites. DMCA governs sites located within the US, SOPA would govern US-directed foreign sites. US-directed, meaning foreign websites that specifically direct their business toward US citizens.
http://thomas.loc.go...?c112:H.R.3261:
And some proposed amendments
http://infojustice.o...rkup-Dec-15.pdf
I just have 1 major thing to say here, 1 more than any other. "Meaning foreign websites that specifically direct their business toward US citizens.". Thepiratebay.org is a foreign website.
If it's with my dying breath I'll personally fucking see to it this bill never goes ANYWHERE.
Edit: DMCA is just as hyper-fucking-dangerous as SOPA (except it affects domains inside U.S. borders) and both should be lit on fire with napalm and thrown into the Grand Canyon.
Yeah, it is a foreign website but it is a .org. It falls under the DMCA
It won't. But something someday will be passed.
Hehe, DMCA is a cute little puppy compared to SOPA and is nowhere near as far-reaching. DMCA is a rational bill that was needed and was done correctly.
Perhaps this is where we agree to disagree. I don't have a problem with online piracy....
me neither. who are we stealing from? oh the millionaire to billionaire movie stars and singers? so they can't buy a 27th car that they will never use? lolol
Those involved with indie music and movies are also affected. They usually have a hard enough time affording one vehicle.
pick a career field that doesnt have everyone on earth trying to make it big? i dont have a problem with online piracy from the rich, stealing music/movies from the poor is just sad. i only steal main stream movies n music, if there is a small band i like i will buy their CD.
Warning: There are idiots in Washington DC right now
Therein lies the rub. People say they don't have a problem with online piracy until the little guy is mentioned.
the little guy is a small small minority in online piracy. and like i said, pick a career field thats not the most difficult one to break into in the world
I also strongly dislike the way most companies try to fight piracy: DRMs that tend to make the lives of people who actually buy the games hard instead of actually protecting their product. Most "software pirates" simply install the patch and rid themselves of the issues the paying customers have to live through.
Either way, I don't think a country could/should act on it alone. It should either be an international agreement (as to which sites to include to the said list too) or there shouldn't be anything at all. Cause if it only goes one way, there's no telling what kind of sites the States (or any country that does the same) could include and for what reasons (propaganda/keeping people in the dark on certain matters being the obvious one).
But I'll tell you what, if I pirate a PC game and play it for a whole one hour because it's garbage, that's not worth $60 and I would have been pissed if I had bought it (Bioshock, I don't know why, touted as game of the year or something and I played for an hour and got bored, glad I got that on Gamefly when I had it). Let's just say I would never pay for a music album since musicians get **ckall from the album sales anyways and I despise the record labels reaming them. If someone makes their own album and I know they're getting the profit I'll buy it, but that's hard to even find. Photoshop $700? No way I would buy that anyways, either I pirate it or I use a freeware app. I got bored pirating MS Office and just went to OpenOffice.
MTGStudio.com. Paid that guy. He made quality software that saves me time.
http://www.displayfusion.com/ Paid that guy.
The only people that actually complain about piracy that I believe have a legit gripe are PC game developers.
You're surely not the only one. All the movies I pirate I've either paid to see in theaters and want the option to see again (and I never buy DVDs even from before I pirated) or they're movies I wouldn't see anyways. All the games I pirate, I wouldn't have bought. Games I actually want (Skyrim, MW3, D3 CE, etc) I go and buy.
Everyone who complains about the little guy getting pirated and fucked over needs to go check out Louis C.K.'s newest stand-up. He spent about a total $200k to make it (it's called Live At The Beacon Theater) and did most of the editing himself at home on his Mac, staying up all night. He made a lil' website and put it up there for $5 for the video with no DRM (downloadable and streamable), and welcomed people to pirate it if they didn't want to pay for it. 12 hours after he released it for $5 a pop he grossed $550k. After 2 days it was at $800k, and he's by now grossed over $1.1 million. He did all that with only a handful of people working on the whole film with him and NO company producing or marketing it. He even said himself he made a lot more this way than he would've if he had a big company promote it for him etc. So let's see here, he made more money AND the people who wanted to pay for it paid a measly $5? Win-win!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_at_the_Beacon_Theater
Most game developers should get pirated, most games coming out nowadays SUCK. Would you rather the community start to turn against developers because they're buying shitty shit time after time, or would you rather some companies lose money from their horrid game flopping and getting pirated instead of purchased? The real stand-out amazing companies developing fantastic games have always (and IMO will always) be profitable.
definitely agree. ive wasted literally hundreds of dollars on second rate shit ass games over the years and i refuse to buy anymore. if i want to test out a game ill pirate it and then delete it and buy it if its good.