Since I got my account compromised and all my characters deleted I have to reroll. I cant restore any of them. No big loss really as it only takes like 3 days to hit 60 and my gear wasnt all that great anyways. Plus since I havent played since December I figure a 4 month break and a fresh start would be nice. I have no desire to do MP9/10 solo farming or Ubers. I just want to chill out, relax, and have some fun. But at the same time I dont wanna just run MP0-2 all day long because that got old fast last time I played. Looking for something that can do MP4-6 and doesnt require one of those black American Expresses just to gear out.
I really loved my Wizard and played most of my time with her and loved Archon as well as CM/WW. I have never tried a DH but started leveling one and having a blast with her. So between Wiz or DH which would be easier for mid range, like 4-6, MP farming? Dex gear is expensive as hell and I heard for Archon you need a really high DPS after you get past MP3 so either way looks like I will have to invest a little gold. Im kinda leaning towards Wiz as I have a lot of experience with that class. Also both CM/WW and Archon offer insane survivability either through Archon's boosted defenses or perma freeze from CM not to mention stacking int means more resist all. I dont know if I could get that as a DH without spending a ton of gold or using passives/utilities that gimp me DPS
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As far as trolling goes in the official forums, you really can't find any in the official wizard forum and I find myself hanging around over there quite often nowadays when it's quiet over here.
Between wizard and DH it's definitely the first - a DH costs quite a lot for higher MPs (getting past 150k DPS while having a decent amount of EHP seems to be extremely costly, my DH friends are stuck there for months now). The problem with wizard is that Archon doesn't work on high or even medium MPs unless you're super rich, so you need to go with CMWW (which works fine on medium MPs even with little money!) or you can try one of the "not so efficient" builds like Sleet Storm+Blizzard.
I have a similar problem: the wizard is by far my favorite class, but I'm sick of running MP0-2 all the time or killing my keyboard with CMWW. I have a barb, and while it's certainly possible to gear him up for mid MPs I just feel that it's a very dull class to play. In the long run I think I'll try monk, although I'm not sure how difficult it is to gear him up. My short-term solution for mid-level MPs was to start a witch doctor. I was able to re-use most of my Archon gear, just replaced weapon/OH with a decent high-LS Skorn and reduced IAS a bit, and I could play MP5/6 with no problem (VoA farming). But still haven't given up on my wizard. At the same time, my wizard is much better suited for mid/high MPs than the DHs I know (fairly high paragon levels and still struggling).
Looks like i may be the odd one out here, but if you haven't used a DH Id really recommend it.
You can do a DH pretty cheap for MP3/MP4 but they require a bit more practice and attention than some of the other classes (which is what i like). If you practice your run/shoot/run/shoot/run/shoot (by clicking back and forth and bumping your "stand still" button) you can physically dodge most attacks avoiding a significant amount of damage while still attacking which is something most wizards builds can't really do too well. And if you have trouble with mobs catching up to you just use Caltrops/Torturous Ground or vault to put some distance. The demon hunter is very quick and does good damage but is fragile without good gear, so its critical to learn how to avoid damage to play the class, but once you do they are really fun to play.
I remember pre-monster power i used to easily play A3 inferno with shit gear probably 40K-50K dps at the time. That is equivalent to about MP3 right now. Now i'm much better geared and doing MP6-MP7 no problem and loving it. I have a WIZ too and i like her on MP1/2 using either Archon or my All Cold build, but when i'm essence hunting, key hunting, doing ubers, or anything else hgiher MP it's always the DH for me.
Check out this old thread here.
diablofans.com/topic/63508-inferno-clear-with-100k-gold/
It may be old, but its a good one for seeing how use of a DH with a bit of skill can get you by with pretty crap gear.
I'll say DH too. With-Vault Tumble and Tactical Advantage it's the fastest farm machine in the game. You're not constrained to the high density areas, you can do longer runs and stay very effective. With Shadow Power-Gloom and Perfectionist you can slack with defense stats and with Life Leech on gear. With 300 AR and 40k hp you will facetank everything up to MP5. And last, but not least Elemental Arrow-Ball Lighning is a very convenient fire and forget damage skill.
Kitting up a DH is not too expensive either if you avoid best in slot stuff. Go for black 2h xbow, Inna's belt, Inna's pants, SOJ with Elemental Arrow, DML with Elemental Arrow, Nat's boots, Nat's cloak with hatred regen, Nat's helm with chc, Vile Ward, rare ring with chc and chd, rare bracer with defensive stats and chc, amulet with high dex, chc and chd, gloves with high dex, chc and chd. Quite cheap and effective.
I played my DH to paragon 100, and DO NOT recommend it for anything relating to mid-MP farming. While I was able to do MP10 and solo Ubers on it, pretty much anything past MP2-3 already felt inefficient compared to playing my monk. Basically it's slow, but does work.
If you're fine with low-MP farming, than I would say DH is a good place to go. I was able to keep up fairly consistent 90-100m exp/hour while paragon leveling my DH.
I played my DH to paragon 100, and DO NOT recommend it for anything relating to mid-MP farming. While I was able to do MP10 and solo Ubers on it, pretty much anything past MP2-3 already felt inefficient compared to playing my monk. Basically it's slow, but does work.
If you're fine with low-MP farming, than I would say DH is a good place to go. I was able to keep up fairly consistent 90-100m exp/hour while paragon leveling my DH.
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I love my DH, but he falls behind other classes once you get past MP 2 or 3 :0(
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I really loved my Wizard and played most of my time with her and loved Archon as well as CM/WW. I have never tried a DH but started leveling one and having a blast with her. So between Wiz or DH which would be easier for mid range, like 4-6, MP farming? Dex gear is expensive as hell and I heard for Archon you need a really high DPS after you get past MP3 so either way looks like I will have to invest a little gold. Im kinda leaning towards Wiz as I have a lot of experience with that class. Also both CM/WW and Archon offer insane survivability either through Archon's boosted defenses or perma freeze from CM not to mention stacking int means more resist all. I dont know if I could get that as a DH without spending a ton of gold or using passives/utilities that gimp me DPS
As far as trolling goes in the official forums, you really can't find any in the official wizard forum and I find myself hanging around over there quite often nowadays when it's quiet over here.
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CM Wiz is prob the most OP.
I have a similar problem: the wizard is by far my favorite class, but I'm sick of running MP0-2 all the time or killing my keyboard with CMWW. I have a barb, and while it's certainly possible to gear him up for mid MPs I just feel that it's a very dull class to play. In the long run I think I'll try monk, although I'm not sure how difficult it is to gear him up. My short-term solution for mid-level MPs was to start a witch doctor. I was able to re-use most of my Archon gear, just replaced weapon/OH with a decent high-LS Skorn and reduced IAS a bit, and I could play MP5/6 with no problem (VoA farming). But still haven't given up on my wizard. At the same time, my wizard is much better suited for mid/high MPs than the DHs I know (fairly high paragon levels and still struggling).
You can do a DH pretty cheap for MP3/MP4 but they require a bit more practice and attention than some of the other classes (which is what i like). If you practice your run/shoot/run/shoot/run/shoot (by clicking back and forth and bumping your "stand still" button) you can physically dodge most attacks avoiding a significant amount of damage while still attacking which is something most wizards builds can't really do too well. And if you have trouble with mobs catching up to you just use Caltrops/Torturous Ground or vault to put some distance. The demon hunter is very quick and does good damage but is fragile without good gear, so its critical to learn how to avoid damage to play the class, but once you do they are really fun to play.
I remember pre-monster power i used to easily play A3 inferno with shit gear probably 40K-50K dps at the time. That is equivalent to about MP3 right now. Now i'm much better geared and doing MP6-MP7 no problem and loving it. I have a WIZ too and i like her on MP1/2 using either Archon or my All Cold build, but when i'm essence hunting, key hunting, doing ubers, or anything else hgiher MP it's always the DH for me.
Check out this old thread here.
diablofans.com/topic/63508-inferno-clear-with-100k-gold/
It may be old, but its a good one for seeing how use of a DH with a bit of skill can get you by with pretty crap gear.
Kitting up a DH is not too expensive either if you avoid best in slot stuff. Go for black 2h xbow, Inna's belt, Inna's pants, SOJ with Elemental Arrow, DML with Elemental Arrow, Nat's boots, Nat's cloak with hatred regen, Nat's helm with chc, Vile Ward, rare ring with chc and chd, rare bracer with defensive stats and chc, amulet with high dex, chc and chd, gloves with high dex, chc and chd. Quite cheap and effective.
If you're fine with low-MP farming, than I would say DH is a good place to go. I was able to keep up fairly consistent 90-100m exp/hour while paragon leveling my DH.
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I love my DH, but he falls behind other classes once you get past MP 2 or 3 :0(