I recently quit both my TR monk and Archon wiz cause I hated 1 button classes. Decided to roll a WD since Im not really familiar with them and figured it would be fun to play something new. I have been building my gear set and placing it on my Wiz so I can see my total stats. So far these are my stats but missing helm, one ring, and either weapon/offhand or Skorn
37k Health
34% crit chance
180% crit damage
640 resist all including 780 Physical
25 pick up radius
1050 regen per second
Im wondering if 4 piece Zuni is worth it in which case I will buy a 4.5% crit chance Zuni ring and a 5% crit chance Zuni Helm. Also I will probably get a 5%+ LS Skorn with 1300+DPS and was wondering if thats enough for the MPs I wanna farm which is 5-7? Or would a 1k DPS Mana Knife with Socket + Offhand be batter. Only problem is that will cost me around 350 mil compared to maybe 75 mil for a decent high DPS Skorn with 300 int and 5%+ LS.
Most of the ones in the game now are total shit so why would the make more. How many people use Sky Splitter, or Wizard Spike, or Burning Axe, or any 2 handers not named Skorn? Could go on forever listing garbage level 60 legendaries that are so bad that no one even bothers looking at them cause they go straight to the anvil.
So havent played either class and looking to try something new. Archon was boring, hold down one button and move forward. Same with my TR monk and DH was just worthless. If I just wanna farm some place like VoA on MP 5-7 and dont care about MP 10 or ubers which class would be better? Also if I do make a Barb it will be HoTA because after watching WW vidoes vs HoTA videos WW just doesnt look as fun to me.
Been playing MMOs since UO and have played D3 since launch. Have Vent and a mic. Looking for a large group of people with Vent so no matter what time of day there will be people online to group up with. Currently playing a 160K TR/Bell monk and also run Mantra of Conviction.
i made wiz like a week back, i spend even shitload less on him.. got archon gear with 300k + dps and i wank around with LS on elites in face while melting them so damn fast.. not to mention funny trash raping .. and CM.. god, even more retarded.. meteor spam while freezing .. got like 140k dps in that gear but it feels like 300 on that DH but as u said > u cant die!
Yea with CM/WW I was farming MP10 crypt of the ancients the same day I hit 60 and got to paragon 10 the first night. It was just a joke and I only had 115k DPS. With teleport wormhole I just kited the elite around till all the trash was dead then lead him down the ramp to the bottom half, killed the trash down there, and ported back to the top and gated out. Never came close to dying with 1400 LoH. Was clearing that place in around 1:30 with only 150 mil in gear. I looked at some of the DHs doing that place in a post on the official forums and they have like 1400 DPS dual socket Manticores that with the gems probably cost as much as 7-8 pieces of my gear.
But that crap hurt my fingers and wrist so making a TR/Bell monk now.
Ever since Blizzard deemed DHs were too OP after launch cause they were doing stuff like farming Act 4 and ponies while still in blues the class has received nothing but nerf after nerf. Even before the build diversity patch DHs were coming out with cool builds that were different from the norm like gas grenades and trap tank specs that worked similar to WW/CM wiz and they stayed alive by stacking LoH. Then Blizz nerfed all DH proc coefficients making those tank specs worthless. I have the achivment for getting every class to 60 twice but my DH just has never made it past 40 because when I compare them to other classes I just dont see a single thing they are better at. I really want to play one but I feel I will have to spend far more gold gearing one out just to be abel to do what other classes can do with a lot less.
Monks are now hands down the fastest low MP speed farmers using TR and da Bell to 1 shot elites. Doesnt take much gold to get started either. Also TR can be used very efficiently when combined with Bell even on higher MPs like 5/6 just because the Bell is silly damage. Id like to see a Strafe DH do MP 5 or 6, which I assumed was their speed farming build. Oh forgot to mention that 30% built damage reduction, an AoE blind, and a 4 second invuln bubble.
Wiz are a far better ranged class and dont even need that much gear. I only spent 150 mil on my CM/WW wiz and I leveled straight through Inferno on MP7 and it was a joke. 2.54 APS, 50% crit chance, 600-700 resists, and 1400 LoH meant I couldnt die. Sure I died a few times if I get silly affixes like Arcane, Vortex, Molten and couldnt get away cause teleport was on CD. But that was the only rason I did, because teleport was on CD. I d like to see a DH spend only 150 mil and faceroll MP7 from AcI through Diablo while only dying a handful of times. Also Archon is probably as expensive to gear out as a very good DH but has a ton more survivablity because of the boost to all resists and armor via one of your armor buffs as well as Archon itself.
Even WDs can speed farm faster than DHs. WDs can stack 3 movement increase abilities in Jaunt, Chicken, and Stalker. They also have a massive damage ability in Bears that makes great use of LS and Acid Cloud makes great use of LoH. Also their 4 piece set bonus combined with 20+ pick up radius and Gruesome feast means unlimited mana and makes Legacy Nats look like a pile of brimestones.
Barbs...Dont even really have to go there. WW and HoTA blow away every single DH build and again cheaper to gear out but can still do high MPs. Also like monks 30% damage reduction. Oh yea that and their IK set has all kinds of further damage reduction. Oh and if they want they can ignore LS on weapons since they get 6% from IK belt and a passive so they can ignore overpriced LS weapons and get ones with much high damage. Or they can just stack up to 12% LS if super rich and never die.
So what exactly do Demon Hunters have that other classes dont? Who can they outperform without having to spend a billion gold on gear? Like I said in my opening paragraph I have really enjoyed leveling my DH but I just see no point in getting on to 60 and spending a lot of gold gearing her out when every other class is better.
Using SnS spec just not showing and was able to hit 2.54 APS which I figure is good enough if not doing ubers. Even in my gimp gear MP 10 Crypt of Ancients is faceroll even as a fresh 60 with only 3 paragon levels. I can do the elite just takes too long. Gonna grind some paragon here cause it only takes like 1-2 mins to clear everything except the elite and Im getting just over a full blue bar per run. Im just not seeing all this loot everyone talks about.
Just wondering if I go Chantodo set how much attack speed do I need from other items to be able to drop the IAS from the Todo in order to gain a socket so I can get some extra crit damage? Im probably gonna go with the Blackthorne Legs and Ammy for 2 piece and more survivibility. So I will lose the 60+ CD I would get from my Ammy.
Is there enough IAS on Lacuni, Mempo, Duncraig Cross, 2 rings, Witching Hour, Gloves, Todo Source, and Gloves to go with a 1.65 speed Todo Wand with a Socket?
If I want to play mostly at MP 4-6 and maybe try 7 what would be the best build and how much are we talking about investing in gear? I assume Archon wont work anymore at that high unless you have a billion gold in gear so would SNS be the best choice? I only have 160 mil to work with so dont know how far that will get me.
The AH didnt ruin the game it was assholes running bot programs like Deckard Coin 24/7 and sniping and reselling items that ruined it. Or people running max gold find and botting that cellar in Act 1 24/7. Also the fact Blizzard never did anything about it ruined it. They just let it spiral out of control for the first few months of the game. So by the time they decided to "fix" things all the cheaters had 100s of millions of gold and the rest of us had jack shit. So basically now all the good stuff is so expensive the only way to afford it is if you cheated before everything was fixed or you buy gold.
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37k Health
34% crit chance
180% crit damage
640 resist all including 780 Physical
25 pick up radius
1050 regen per second
Im wondering if 4 piece Zuni is worth it in which case I will buy a 4.5% crit chance Zuni ring and a 5% crit chance Zuni Helm. Also I will probably get a 5%+ LS Skorn with 1300+DPS and was wondering if thats enough for the MPs I wanna farm which is 5-7? Or would a 1k DPS Mana Knife with Socket + Offhand be batter. Only problem is that will cost me around 350 mil compared to maybe 75 mil for a decent high DPS Skorn with 300 int and 5%+ LS.
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Yea with CM/WW I was farming MP10 crypt of the ancients the same day I hit 60 and got to paragon 10 the first night. It was just a joke and I only had 115k DPS. With teleport wormhole I just kited the elite around till all the trash was dead then lead him down the ramp to the bottom half, killed the trash down there, and ported back to the top and gated out. Never came close to dying with 1400 LoH. Was clearing that place in around 1:30 with only 150 mil in gear. I looked at some of the DHs doing that place in a post on the official forums and they have like 1400 DPS dual socket Manticores that with the gems probably cost as much as 7-8 pieces of my gear.
But that crap hurt my fingers and wrist so making a TR/Bell monk now.
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Monks are now hands down the fastest low MP speed farmers using TR and da Bell to 1 shot elites. Doesnt take much gold to get started either. Also TR can be used very efficiently when combined with Bell even on higher MPs like 5/6 just because the Bell is silly damage. Id like to see a Strafe DH do MP 5 or 6, which I assumed was their speed farming build. Oh forgot to mention that 30% built damage reduction, an AoE blind, and a 4 second invuln bubble.
Wiz are a far better ranged class and dont even need that much gear. I only spent 150 mil on my CM/WW wiz and I leveled straight through Inferno on MP7 and it was a joke. 2.54 APS, 50% crit chance, 600-700 resists, and 1400 LoH meant I couldnt die. Sure I died a few times if I get silly affixes like Arcane, Vortex, Molten and couldnt get away cause teleport was on CD. But that was the only rason I did, because teleport was on CD. I d like to see a DH spend only 150 mil and faceroll MP7 from AcI through Diablo while only dying a handful of times. Also Archon is probably as expensive to gear out as a very good DH but has a ton more survivablity because of the boost to all resists and armor via one of your armor buffs as well as Archon itself.
Even WDs can speed farm faster than DHs. WDs can stack 3 movement increase abilities in Jaunt, Chicken, and Stalker. They also have a massive damage ability in Bears that makes great use of LS and Acid Cloud makes great use of LoH. Also their 4 piece set bonus combined with 20+ pick up radius and Gruesome feast means unlimited mana and makes Legacy Nats look like a pile of brimestones.
Barbs...Dont even really have to go there. WW and HoTA blow away every single DH build and again cheaper to gear out but can still do high MPs. Also like monks 30% damage reduction. Oh yea that and their IK set has all kinds of further damage reduction. Oh and if they want they can ignore LS on weapons since they get 6% from IK belt and a passive so they can ignore overpriced LS weapons and get ones with much high damage. Or they can just stack up to 12% LS if super rich and never die.
So what exactly do Demon Hunters have that other classes dont? Who can they outperform without having to spend a billion gold on gear? Like I said in my opening paragraph I have really enjoyed leveling my DH but I just see no point in getting on to 60 and spending a lot of gold gearing her out when every other class is better.
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Using SnS spec just not showing and was able to hit 2.54 APS which I figure is good enough if not doing ubers. Even in my gimp gear MP 10 Crypt of Ancients is faceroll even as a fresh 60 with only 3 paragon levels. I can do the elite just takes too long. Gonna grind some paragon here cause it only takes like 1-2 mins to clear everything except the elite and Im getting just over a full blue bar per run. Im just not seeing all this loot everyone talks about.
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Yea just noticed. 120 mil just for one with only 240 average damage and APOC. Also how much DPS would I love if I dont get a Chant wand with a socket?
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Is there enough IAS on Lacuni, Mempo, Duncraig Cross, 2 rings, Witching Hour, Gloves, Todo Source, and Gloves to go with a 1.65 speed Todo Wand with a Socket?
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