Developer Journal: Itemization Update

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    Developer Journal: Itemization Update
    Blizzard has just posted a blog about the itemization changes coming in patch 1.0.8 and beyond.

    Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

    The item hunt is core to the Diablo experience and we're determined to make it even better in Diablo III. We've made several adjustments to the item game since launch with this goal in mind, but today I wanted to talk about a few of the underlying philosophies that are driving future changes to itemization.

    Rarity = Power
    One of the big things we want to focus on is making sure items that feel like they are rare and powerful are actually powerful . . . instead of just rare. The first and most obvious place for improvement here is Legendaries.

    By design, Legendary items are going to drop far less often than Rare items, and we want that rarity to be reflected in their power. When a Legendary drops, the question that goes through a player's mind should never be "is this a good item?" It should be "how awesome is it?" For example, if you are playing a Demon Hunter wielding a Rare crossbow and a Legendary crossbow drops, we want your reaction to be "Holy crap, YES!" not "*sigh* another Hellrack." It's a problem if players don't want to bother identifying their Legendaries, let alone pick them up. We want to change this.

    Legendary Stat Ranges:
    Lots of factors go into making an item good, and one of those factors is how high the stats on the item can roll. When the game first launched, an item's potential stats were largely indicated by its item level. This made it so you'd know in advance whether or not an item was worth the trouble of identifying. In 1.0.5, we made it so that the stat ranges for affixes were based on the level of the monster or container that dropped the item rather than the item's level, which created the possibility of more items rolling competitive values.

    We’d like to continue with this line of reasoning and use it to make Legendaries more powerful. In the future, we plan to allow Legendary items to also roll their base stats (weapon DPS and armor value) at the level of the monster that dropped them. So, for example, if you found a Heart of Iron from a level 63 monster, its base armor would be increased to that of Archon Armor and its stat ranges would roll at level 63. This gives us the opportunity to broaden the range of Legendary items, providing players with more diversity. Love Leoric's Signet, but hate wearing a level 17 ring? Me too. Instead of farming Act II Normal to find a Leoric's Signet, let's go farm Inferno and get a level 63 version of the ring!

    (Everything we're suggesting for Legendaries also applies to Sets, too, by the way.)

    Increased Item Diversity:
    Item diversity is a topic that comes up a lot. Right now when people are talking about the best items in the game or looking for ways to improve their power they gravitate towards items with Critical Chance, Critical Damage, and Attack Speed. While these stats are great for boosting your damage they aren’t necessarily interesting or what we like to call "game changing."

    We want players to feel like entire new builds can open up if they get their hand on the right items. Glimmers of this idea are already in the game with The Three Hundredth Spear and Thing of the Deep. The plan is to embrace the idea and push them to more extremes. Potential future Legendary item ideas include a Voodoo Mask that increases pet damage, a Barbarian set that makes Call of the Ancients last until they die (after we give them full pet survivability), a Wizard Orb that allowed for two Hydras to be active at once, or the "Ethereal" boots idea I posted here. While these specific ideas may not make it into the game, they are good examples of the kinds of game changing effects we want to introduce to items. It will take time, but our goal is to try to provide players with compelling alternatives to trifecta items when talking about what items they want to acquire.

    Less is More

    Between Paragon levels, Nephalem Valor stacks, and all the other assorted buffs and bonuses, it's possible to find a tremendous amount of Rare items during any given play session. But the quality of these Rare items just isn't where it needs to be, so even though players see a lot of them, they no longer feel special. When you identify hundreds of Rares and only a small percentage are worth equipping or selling, those items become a burden rather than something to get excited about. "Great. Now I have to identify them all, read their stats, and I’m probably going to salvage all of them." I feel your pain.

    We want to make it fun and rewarding to hunt down new items through play, and really instill the feeling that your next awesome item could come from anywhere, and is just around the corner. We need to get rid of some of the clutter first, so we plan to reduce the frequency at which Rare items drop down the road.

    Before anyone panics and posts an angry comment in the forums, this doesn't mean we want players to earn even fewer good items. It just means we don't feel it's necessary to present the player with hundreds of bad Rares for every one that they might want. As an example, suppose items currently roll between 1-100 Intelligence. Now, imagine that we dropped 25% as many items, but the Intelligence range was instead somewhere around 75-100. In the end, you'd find fewer items, but more of the items you find would be worth equipping. That's our goal.

    (On the topic of identifying hundreds of Rares, it's worth adding that while most of this blog is about overall item philosophy and our goals down the road, one of the short-term changes we're making is adding an "Identify All" option, which should be coming in 1.0.8.)

    Gold Sinks Should be Exciting

    We frequently discuss the Diablo economy, as we want players to feel that gold is a valuable commodity, useful in ways beyond just the auction house. We don't want out of control inflation, but we also don’t think that taxing players is the proper approach. Ultimately, we want to provide players with things that they are excited to spend their hard-earned gold on.

    The most concrete example of how we're supporting this philosophy would be the crafting recipes we introduced in patch 1.0.7. While they aren’t meant to be the silver bullet for all economic concerns, they provide more avenues for people to spend their gold to receive something they can be happy about—in this case, potential upgrades for their character or alts.

    For more insight into Bind on Account items, check out Wyatt's 1.0.7 preview here.

    Other avenues we want to explore include providing players with vanity options or potential ways to differentiate themselves from their friends or other characters (i.e. character customization options in terms of gear). We are also exploring ways to make crafting more exciting by adding not just more ways to make appealing items, but also introducing ways to modify existing items.

    Farm Monsters, Not the Auction House

    The auction house is a new addition to the Diablo franchise. And, while it serves many purposes for our players and helps to keep the economy fluid, some would argue that it has done more harm to the game than good. There is value to be had in providing players a way to freely exchange unwanted items for gold, or giving Demon Hunters an easy means to sell unwanted rubies in order to purchase emeralds, but the question has to be asked: is what the auction house provides worth what it took away from some players?

    If the "right" way for some people to play the game changes from killing monsters to camping the auction house, is the game better off for it? Ultimately we don't think it is, but we also don't want to take something away that has become such an enjoyable part of the game for others. So, the question instead becomes: how can we refocus the end game away from farming the auction house back to farming monsters? It's a complicated issue, but one we are committed to addressing.

    The first solution always presented when we discuss this problem is "Why don’t you just get rid of the auction house?" and while completely removing the feature would in fact fix the problem it created, it would also create a void that the auction house was originally designed to address. For example, we don't want players to feel like the only way to trade with other people is by sitting in chat and spamming "WTS [item link]" and "WTB [awesome item]" all day. This is definitely not ideal.

    There are a number of ideas for how to address this long term that don't include removing the auction house outright, and most of the ideas are centered around giving players more ways to find items they are excited about:
    • One idea that we have discussed is “targeted Legendaries,” where named NPCs have an increased chance of dropping specific legendary items. For example, The Butcher could have an increased chance of dropping The Butcher's Cleaver.
    • Another idea is that we introduce a system that will help alleviate some of the bad randomness players encounter by ensuring that at least some of the Rare and Legendary items you find will be something good for your class.
    • We've also discussed allowing bosses the first time you kill them in each difficulty to have a guaranteed chance to drop a Legendary.
    The list goes on and, as with all design, nothing is ever final. This is just a snapshot of what we're working on currently with regard to itemization, and we hope to provide more specifics as we get closer to implementing these changes into the live game. In the meantime, we'd love to hear what you think about our approach, since much of what's cited above has been inspired by your feedback.

    Travis Day is a Game Designer for Diablo III. His brother, Morgan, also works at Blizzard Entertainment. They're kind of like the Venture Bros, except without the super violent, super secret agent bodyguard. Go Team Blizzard!
  • #2
    Good to see the new game director maybe bringing the game up to what most people want it to be like.
  • #3
    I really like the call of ancients idea. That skill was so cool and so never used :-(
  • #4
    yeeaahhh, Itemization bitch!

    I don';t think Day is game director (yet), but I would sure like it if he was.
  • #5
    Quote from pr3ach3r

    yeeaahhh, Itemization bitch!

    I don';t think Day is game director (yet), but I would sure like it if he was.

    You would think with the recent posts he has done, he may be headed towards that role, or may move (has been moved) into a higher spot on the Dev Team...

    Great post, be waiting to see the next PTR, and dig into it. Le's hope with 1.0.7 and now 1.0.8 sets a good trend of fixes and addittions.
  • #6
    Its looking good for diablo 3. they have to get the game perfect for the console launch so we all win yaa...
  • #7
    Good calls. It's kind of sad and stupid that you have to explain to people why you can't simply pull the AH out altogether. Did anybody play D2? Did not having an AH in that game stop or even slow RMT, dupes, and Hammer Bots at all?

    One thing he didn't mention that kind of worries me is nowhere does he mention bound gear. One way to get people off the AH is to make BIS gear account or character bound. The AH is great for commodities or alt gearing. There just needs to be a lot more done w/ crafting to beef up the commodities market. And there needs to be more commodities. Example; in order to craft a BIS bound pair of gloves, you need a level 63 pair of gloves, plus gems and other crafting reagents. Make random drops a more important part of the recipe than simply scraps. I still think the biggest let down I've had w/ D3 is the terrible crafting system. It has so much potential, and falls so far short.
  • #8
    What a long way to say "we are adding the Identify All button at last!" :)
  • #9
    In Day we trust!

    I don't care if I'll regret saying that later on, but dammit this man's posts did more good to the game and the overall optimism of the community than anything else I've seen from Blizzard in the past six months.
    "Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the small death that brings total obliteration."
  • #10
    Blog sounds promising, but will still keep my skepticism until I see the patch notes when 1.0.8 PTR comes out.

    Also let's not forget we also need a CRAFT ALL button in addition to the IDENTIFY ALL for the Jeweler and the BS, but all in all even if only some of these changes come into play, it looks to be a very promising.
  • #11
    I like this guy already. First - he went out to the community on D3's forums and answered some questions without telling us "we [Blizzard] know better" and then he posted quite a promising blog.

    I don't want to bash Jay, but this guy is already better than him. I imagine that if he continues to write similar blog posts and goes out to the forums, the community will want him to become the new game director.
    "What is dead, should stay dead"
  • #12
    These dev journals show promise but it will be several months before we know if they can actually deliver any of these ideas.
  • #13
    The best thing i read is the new Legendary system. It's a shame that all those low lvl Legendaries don't get much love (rephrase, they don't get it at all). If Inferno drops all orange (brown? w/e) items scaled to max lvl, it gives some good diversity.
  • #14
    This is a good start, but I am still not quite convinced. He does not address the obvious problem that only a few affixes and suffixes are desired (he mentions them) and the fact that there is such a huge dependency on weapon damage. They'd probably have to rethink their whole stat philosophy before it can work and is not boring.
  • #15
    Great Patches - slowly eroding all wealth until the addon gets released :)
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    My favorite part is by far the idea that fewer, but more consistently "good", rares will drop. I'd be happy to only get 1/10th the normal amount of rare drops as long as like 1/10 of them was worth the time to pick it up and id it.

    I love the idea of the ethereal boots though. Then I could drop whirlwind from my build and run something like:!ZYg!ZZZZYc
    ...and if you disagree with me, you're probably <insert random ad hominem attack here>.
  • #17

    Official Blizzard Quote:

    " option, which should be coming in 1.0.8" class="blizzsource">

    adding an "Identify All" option, which should be coming in 1.0.8

    about time!
  • #18
    Obvious Day is gunning for Jay's old job by getting the community's support, but hurray for us anyways.
  • #19
    These are some awesome and amazing changes! Hope they hit PTR or launch soon! :P for all your Trans Siberian Orchestra listening pleasure
    If you want to arrange it
    This world you can change it
    If we could somehow make this
    Christmas thing last

    By helping a neighbor
    Or even a stranger
    And to know who needs help
    You need only just ask

  • #20
    So... does this:

    Love Leoric's Signet, but hate wearing a level 17 ring? Me too. Instead of farming Act II Normal to find a Leoric's Signet, let's go farm Inferno and get a level 63 version of the ring!

    ...mean that all those low level legendaries are going to drop in end-game, but with end-game stats? That wouid be more than awesome... I love those low level legendaries (especially the ones that were 'copied' from Diablo and Diablo II) and I hate the fact that you will never find then when your character is still at a low level.
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