But the developers told us that non-stop farming is fun and thats all we need for an endgame... soo yes everyone should still be playing right?
No, the devs didn't "tell us" anything. The constant attempts by disgruntled players who are ignorant of how the series has worked thusfar to characterize Blizzard as a bunch of facist dictators is really annoying at this point.
I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me HOW/WHY killing Pindleskin 500 times per day was somehow much more entertaining than hunting for mostly-randomized champ/rare packs and then killing some bosses when we're done.
If your answer is "loot sucks in D3" well I think Blizzard is aware of that complaint and attempting to do something about it. That is a reasonable complaint (not one I'm 100% on board with, but one I do empathize with nonetheless).
If your answer is "farming isn't fun" then you're not someone the series is aimed at. Please go buy a different game and leave the real Diablo fans alone so that we can give relevant feedback and help push this game in the direction it should be going. The series has always been based on farming. Complaining that the devs are "telling us that farming is fun" or "forcing us to farm" is stupid because anyone who played D2 or D1 knew that this was the endgame. No true Diablo fan would be complaining about being "forced" to farm.
In the end you're just playing the auctionhouse, a trading simulator with a hack and slash storyline on the side.
This is the said hyperbolic bullshit that Proleteria was talking about. You can make a reasonable point about what you feel are flaws, but when you make statements like that it tarnishes everything you've said with the taint of outright absurdity.
As for the legendaries, it's really annoying to keep harping on that. Blizzard identified that early on as something they were changing, and they currently have it going live, estimated, for the last week in August. It does NOTHING to keep harping on something that, essentially, is already fixed and will be going live in less than a month. It's a "grit your teeth and bear it for the short term" situation and nothing more. I'm the last person on these forums to give Blizzard a pass for the legendary/set bungle in D3. But, really, we can see the light at the end of the tunnel on this one and there's no point in being so ridiculously pessimistic about it since we know it's fixed and we're getting that fix soon.
Did it suck for the past 3 months? Sure.
Is it worth groussing about for the next 2-3 weeks as if the end of the world is nigh? No.
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It's also stupid to bring up "itemization" as a reason that Pindle was better. I stipulated that for some players itemization is an issue - it's not an issue I agree with 100%, but it is an issue that I understand and sympathize with to an extent. My post was not saying that D3 has better items than D2. My post was obviously to say that there is absolutely no grounds to say that Blizzard is a bunch of facists who are forcing us to farm. Farming IS what Diablo is about. People who don't understand that shouldn't be giving feedback because their feedback is misinformed and detrimental to the series.
I'm personaly using this time to level the last two classes that I don't have at 60, go for some of the odder achievements.
To me, having such an easier inferno to farm, with increased drop rates from normal monsters and improved legendaries to go after makes farming right now feel even more annoying that it already is/was.
So for my money, do stuff you've been putting off, like playing a Witch Doctor.
I'm bored (again) at the moment. Leveled a barb, geared him up (using money made from my Wiz...) and... well, back to farming the icy mistress that is act III. It's brain-dead easy to farm with the barb, but still, hardly anything useful ever drops. Night after night of garbage rares and legendaries. Waiting for the patch...
You can farm gold, which you might need after 1.0.4 for upgrades.
To me gold farming is boring as hell, Item farming is the best, I want to find upgrades, but has not been blessed with RNG gods for few weeks, I do still farm items and run my few hours of farming, but find it more fun leveling my other toons, I already have 5 level 60's pass inferno act 2.
But heres the big difference: You could jump in, farm pindleskin or mephisto for a couple of hours and you knew that you'd end up with a couple of rares. The majority of them would have decent enough stats to keep for an alt, but not enough stats to warrant selling/ trading it to another player.
I replaced the word "legendary" with "rare" and what do you know, you've perfectly described Diablo 3.
Congratulations!
*edit* to clarify: I'm pointing out you're hung up on the color of an item rather than it's relative value based on everything else in the game.
But heres the big difference: You could jump in, farm pindleskin or mephisto for a couple of hours weeks and you knew that you'd end up with a couple of rares. The majority of them would have decent enough stats to keep for an alt, but not enough stats to warrant selling/ trading it to another player.
I replaced the word "legendary" with "rare" and what do you know, you've perfectly described Diablo 3.
Congratulations!
*edit* to clarify: I'm pointing out you're hung up on the color of an item rather than it's relative value based on everything else in the game.
I replaced the word "hours" with "weeks" and what do you know, you've perfectly described Diablo 3.
Not sure if you're being sarcastic...
i have fun farming
i do since diablo 2, i wanted stone of jordan's and i farmed andariel for months to mass them
This has been my thoughts as well. I'm going to continue distracting myself with other games until 1.04
I know right? Im not sure either.
Haven't noticed yet that there is nothing else in the game to do?
The kids want a game like D2, but really don't know what the first 2 games were all about. +1 for you.
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No, the devs didn't "tell us" anything. The constant attempts by disgruntled players who are ignorant of how the series has worked thusfar to characterize Blizzard as a bunch of facist dictators is really annoying at this point.
I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me HOW/WHY killing Pindleskin 500 times per day was somehow much more entertaining than hunting for mostly-randomized champ/rare packs and then killing some bosses when we're done.
If your answer is "loot sucks in D3" well I think Blizzard is aware of that complaint and attempting to do something about it. That is a reasonable complaint (not one I'm 100% on board with, but one I do empathize with nonetheless).
If your answer is "farming isn't fun" then you're not someone the series is aimed at. Please go buy a different game and leave the real Diablo fans alone so that we can give relevant feedback and help push this game in the direction it should be going. The series has always been based on farming. Complaining that the devs are "telling us that farming is fun" or "forcing us to farm" is stupid because anyone who played D2 or D1 knew that this was the endgame. No true Diablo fan would be complaining about being "forced" to farm.
This is the said hyperbolic bullshit that Proleteria was talking about. You can make a reasonable point about what you feel are flaws, but when you make statements like that it tarnishes everything you've said with the taint of outright absurdity.
As for the legendaries, it's really annoying to keep harping on that. Blizzard identified that early on as something they were changing, and they currently have it going live, estimated, for the last week in August. It does NOTHING to keep harping on something that, essentially, is already fixed and will be going live in less than a month. It's a "grit your teeth and bear it for the short term" situation and nothing more. I'm the last person on these forums to give Blizzard a pass for the legendary/set bungle in D3. But, really, we can see the light at the end of the tunnel on this one and there's no point in being so ridiculously pessimistic about it since we know it's fixed and we're getting that fix soon.
Did it suck for the past 3 months? Sure.
Is it worth groussing about for the next 2-3 weeks as if the end of the world is nigh? No.
EDIT
It's also stupid to bring up "itemization" as a reason that Pindle was better. I stipulated that for some players itemization is an issue - it's not an issue I agree with 100%, but it is an issue that I understand and sympathize with to an extent. My post was not saying that D3 has better items than D2. My post was obviously to say that there is absolutely no grounds to say that Blizzard is a bunch of facists who are forcing us to farm. Farming IS what Diablo is about. People who don't understand that shouldn't be giving feedback because their feedback is misinformed and detrimental to the series.
To me, having such an easier inferno to farm, with increased drop rates from normal monsters and improved legendaries to go after makes farming right now feel even more annoying that it already is/was.
So for my money, do stuff you've been putting off, like playing a Witch Doctor.
I replaced the word "legendary" with "rare" and what do you know, you've perfectly described Diablo 3.
Congratulations!
*edit* to clarify: I'm pointing out you're hung up on the color of an item rather than it's relative value based on everything else in the game.
I replaced the word "hours" with "weeks" and what do you know, you've perfectly described Diablo 3.
Congratulations!