• 0

    posted a message on The reason we're mad.
    Quote from Zic

    Quote from InfidelMan

    Quote from Zic

    Quote from InfidelMan

    Quote from Zic

    Quote from InfidelMan

    Quote from Zic

    Quote from InfidelMan

    Why do people spam zeroes?
    Because the servers were down.

    Nothing Blizzard could've done would've pleased you, or the majority of the people hating on the game. They pretty much made up their minds long ago.

    Just do me a favor, read some of those reviews right now. They're mostly about the game being boring, no offline, bugs etc not server crashes. I'm hearing servers are mostly stable right now.

    I've made up my mind after clocking in 65 hours, I wanted to enjoy the game, I tried my best because I waited so long for it. And I couldn't take it anymore. I even gave it for a try to my older brother(he's 28 now) who is a Diablo fan since 1996 whom I watched kill Diablo for the first time when I was a kid. He was starring at the screen with a facial expression of, 'meh' and annoyance, and he said, 'fuck this, let's watch the stanley cup'. It is just a generic RPG, nothing special about it.

    Sure, there are some like that NOW, but the vast majority of the 0's came from the release night, and the server instability. If you find it boring, fine, whatever. Just don't try and make it seem like it's everyone's opinion, because it sure as hell isn't.

    Look at the most recent ones, of today, they still outnumber the positive by a huge margin.
    It's not just my opnion. It is an opinion that is shared by a vocal majority. That says something.

    Just because it's the group speaking up the loudest, doesn't mean it's the majority. At all. People that are happy with the game have a lot less incentive to go to a metacritic page and rate it highly, than someone who hates it so much they just have to go smack a zero on it.

    It is the vocal majority still. There is a considerable amount of reviews from users already, not just metacritic. And most are very critical of the game, some down right hopeless. For the given vocal spectrum it is the majority opinion.

    'People that are happy with the game have a lot less incentive to go to a metacritic page and rate it highly, than someone who hates it so much they just have to go smack a zero on it.'- There is no way you can prove that, that is just an assumption. I mean, you're here and you just LOOOOOVE the game, shouldn't you be playing it? Yet the vocal majority is evident, it is proof enough.

    I'm actually hunting for Bashiok in the Dahlgur Oasis right now, it's too late (in the night) for me to try Inferno Belial again. Either way, the people who hate it the most are the loudest, they're still not the majority.

    Again, baseless assumptions. No wonder blizzard is becoming more and more incompetent. I'm done here.
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
  • 0

    posted a message on The reason we're mad.
    Quote from Zic

    Quote from InfidelMan

    Quote from Zic

    Quote from InfidelMan

    Quote from Zic

    Quote from InfidelMan

    Why do people spam zeroes?
    Because the servers were down.

    Nothing Blizzard could've done would've pleased you, or the majority of the people hating on the game. They pretty much made up their minds long ago.

    Just do me a favor, read some of those reviews right now. They're mostly about the game being boring, no offline, bugs etc not server crashes. I'm hearing servers are mostly stable right now.

    I've made up my mind after clocking in 65 hours, I wanted to enjoy the game, I tried my best because I waited so long for it. And I couldn't take it anymore. I even gave it for a try to my older brother(he's 28 now) who is a Diablo fan since 1996 whom I watched kill Diablo for the first time when I was a kid. He was starring at the screen with a facial expression of, 'meh' and annoyance, and he said, 'fuck this, let's watch the stanley cup'. It is just a generic RPG, nothing special about it.

    Sure, there are some like that NOW, but the vast majority of the 0's came from the release night, and the server instability. If you find it boring, fine, whatever. Just don't try and make it seem like it's everyone's opinion, because it sure as hell isn't.

    Look at the most recent ones, of today, they still outnumber the positive by a huge margin.
    It's not just my opnion. It is an opinion that is shared by a vocal majority. That says something.

    Just because it's the group speaking up the loudest, doesn't mean it's the majority. At all. People that are happy with the game have a lot less incentive to go to a metacritic page and rate it highly, than someone who hates it so much they just have to go smack a zero on it.

    It is the vocal majority still. There is a considerable amount of reviews from users already, not just metacritic. And most are very critical of the game, some down right hopeless. For the given vocal spectrum it is the majority opinion.

    'People that are happy with the game have a lot less incentive to go to a metacritic page and rate it highly, than someone who hates it so much they just have to go smack a zero on it.'- There is no way you can prove that, that is just an assumption. I mean, you're here and you just LOOOOOVE the game, shouldn't you be playing it? Yet the vocal majority is evident, it is proof enough.
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
  • 0

    posted a message on The reason we're mad.
    Quote from Zic

    Quote from InfidelMan

    Quote from Zic

    Quote from InfidelMan

    Why do people spam zeroes?
    Because the servers were down.

    Nothing Blizzard could've done would've pleased you, or the majority of the people hating on the game. They pretty much made up their minds long ago.

    Just do me a favor, read some of those reviews right now. They're mostly about the game being boring, no offline, bugs etc not server crashes. I'm hearing servers are mostly stable right now.

    I've made up my mind after clocking in 65 hours, I wanted to enjoy the game, I tried my best because I waited so long for it. And I couldn't take it anymore. I even gave it for a try to my older brother(he's 28 now) who is a Diablo fan since 1996 whom I watched kill Diablo for the first time when I was a kid. He was starring at the screen with a facial expression of, 'meh' and annoyance, and he said, 'fuck this, let's watch the stanley cup'. It is just a generic RPG, nothing special about it.

    Sure, there are some like that NOW, but the vast majority of the 0's came from the release night, and the server instability. If you find it boring, fine, whatever. Just don't try and make it seem like it's everyone's opinion, because it sure as hell isn't.

    Look at the most recent ones, of today, they still outnumber the positive by a huge margin.
    It's not just my opnion. It is an opinion that is shared by a vocal majority. That says something.

    It is also interesting to note that most reviews that are negative are actually stating their specific dislikes. Positive reviews are just 'I love this game yo, fuck all the haters, this game is the best, its awesome'. And you guys call us 6 year old whiny kids?
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
  • 0

    posted a message on The reason we're mad.
    Quote from Zic

    Quote from InfidelMan

    Why do people spam zeroes?
    Because the servers were down.

    Nothing Blizzard could've done would've pleased you, or the majority of the people hating on the game. They pretty much made up their minds long ago.

    Just do me a favor, read some of those reviews right now. They're mostly about the game being boring, no offline, bugs etc not server crashes. I'm hearing servers are mostly stable right now.

    I've made up my mind after clocking in 65 hours, I wanted to enjoy the game, I tried my best because I waited so long for it. And I couldn't take it anymore. I even gave it for a try to my older brother(he's 28 now) who is a Diablo fan since 1996 whom I watched kill Diablo for the first time when I was a kid. He was starring at the screen with a facial expression of, 'meh' and annoyance, and he said, 'fuck this, let's watch the stanley cup'. It is just a generic RPG, nothing special about it.
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
  • 0

    posted a message on The reason we're mad.
    Quote from Brakthir

    Because they troll the internet? It's fun for them? 4chan told them to do it?

    People who have a bone to pick are the most vocal. People who are generally content don't usually go out of their way.

    So now we're resorting to conspiracies. How about if I said that all the positive reviews are just fanboys in denial and blizzard employees? See, how easy it is to turn that conspiracy crap around? Stop making excuses. The disappointment in this game is pretty evident everywhere you look: Critic sites(user reviews), Fans sites(like this one), Official forums.

    People that are going out of their way to post criticism are the ones that actually care/cared for the franchise like me. If you keep silent, blizzard will continue fucking up and in turn earn money because of passive fanboys like you.
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
  • 0

    posted a message on The reason we're mad.
    Quote from Zic

    Quote from InfidelMan

    Quote from Zic

    Quote from InfidelMan

    Quote from Brakthir

    Quote from InfidelMan

    Quote from inbredpsychosis

    Quote from Kildeer888
    It only scored an 88 on Metacritic for instance. And 8.5 on Gamespot.

    Those are pretty good scores, you know?

    I don't get it, why do people think that those scores matter? What matters is the user score, that is the most accurate measure of the game's status. The sad thing is that the user score for Diablo 3 is 4.1 on metacritic, compared to the critic score that is 88. Critic score is based on shallow criteria. Sure the game is fun in the beginning. But Diablo is a game that is meant to be replayed over and over, kind of like Diablo 2/LOD was and that is where the USERS of the game have the final say of the quality of the end-product.

    Face it, Diablo 3 is a mediocre game. And I do agree with the OP +1. Just get the refund, the only way blizzard will learn anything.

    You do know that user scores are bullshit right? Sites like 4chan and various other troll sites encourge their users to actively post bad reviews of video games. Case in point, Mass Effect 3.

    Saying to judge a game based on metacritic's or actually any site's user reviews is just a sign of your naivety.

    Excuses excuses. Just read some of those reviews from casual users, many differ in their gripes but overall end up in that the game is mediocre. Have you visited the official Diablo 3 forums lately? Endless 'this is boring', 'I want a refund', 'how to get a refund', 'why Diablo is a flop' threads nonestop. It is evident, you can't make this shit up. And look at these forums, lower number of such threads but still. Case and point here. The game is fine for first run or two at most, but then it's meh. But it is SURE AS HELL not a Dibalo 2 killer, anyone who thinks that is mentally challenged or has never played Diablo 2/LOD.

    Edit:
    How is that naive? Users are the ones that give the most blatant and raw reviews, they say what they feel openly and when it is the majority it usually means a whole lot, generally it is unbiased. You actually trusting the reviews of the official critics is what really makes you the naive one. Like I said, they base their score on shallow criteria: Graphics(In a conventional sense), initial gameplay mechanics etc, not the end game. They don't delve deep into it. And most probably never even played Diablo 2/LOD.

    The majority of the bad 'reviews' came during the shaky launch.

    So why didn't the score improve since then? Instead it fell even more. Actually it never improved.

    Because you would need way too many people to counteract the crazy amount of zeros spammed on that site.

    Yes, and that would only happen if people actually GENUINELY liked the game, that played the game thoroughly. You don't see that. Why do people spam zeroes? For fun? Is it a conspiracy? No, it is because it is a let down to have waited these 6-7 years for a great successor to end up with a dumed down version of Diablo 2 with WoW-like graphics.
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
  • 0

    posted a message on The reason we're mad.
    Quote from Zic

    Quote from InfidelMan

    Quote from Brakthir

    Quote from InfidelMan

    Quote from inbredpsychosis

    Quote from Kildeer888
    It only scored an 88 on Metacritic for instance. And 8.5 on Gamespot.

    Those are pretty good scores, you know?

    I don't get it, why do people think that those scores matter? What matters is the user score, that is the most accurate measure of the game's status. The sad thing is that the user score for Diablo 3 is 4.1 on metacritic, compared to the critic score that is 88. Critic score is based on shallow criteria. Sure the game is fun in the beginning. But Diablo is a game that is meant to be replayed over and over, kind of like Diablo 2/LOD was and that is where the USERS of the game have the final say of the quality of the end-product.

    Face it, Diablo 3 is a mediocre game. And I do agree with the OP +1. Just get the refund, the only way blizzard will learn anything.

    You do know that user scores are bullshit right? Sites like 4chan and various other troll sites encourge their users to actively post bad reviews of video games. Case in point, Mass Effect 3.

    Saying to judge a game based on metacritic's or actually any site's user reviews is just a sign of your naivety.

    Excuses excuses. Just read some of those reviews from casual users, many differ in their gripes but overall end up in that the game is mediocre. Have you visited the official Diablo 3 forums lately? Endless 'this is boring', 'I want a refund', 'how to get a refund', 'why Diablo is a flop' threads nonestop. It is evident, you can't make this shit up. And look at these forums, lower number of such threads but still. Case and point here. The game is fine for first run or two at most, but then it's meh. But it is SURE AS HELL not a Dibalo 2 killer, anyone who thinks that is mentally challenged or has never played Diablo 2/LOD.

    Edit:
    How is that naive? Users are the ones that give the most blatant and raw reviews, they say what they feel openly and when it is the majority it usually means a whole lot, generally it is unbiased. You actually trusting the reviews of the official critics is what really makes you the naive one. Like I said, they base their score on shallow criteria: Graphics(In a conventional sense), initial gameplay mechanics etc, not the end game. They don't delve deep into it. And most probably never even played Diablo 2/LOD.

    The majority of the bad 'reviews' came during the shaky launch.

    So why didn't the score improve since then? Instead it fell even more. Actually it never improved.
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
  • 0

    posted a message on The reason we're mad.
    Woohaa56, I get what you're saying. But blizzard shouldn't have made that same mistake, especially 12 years since. They've developed greatly, have MUCH more resources, experince and time and this kind of talk like, 'it happened to D2, so D3 has the same right to suck', is complete nonesense. First of all, D2 didn't suck this bad in the beginning even. At least I wasn't bored with it in the first 5 days then, here I was already bored after 5 days and I didn't log in after a week, that's how much of a let down this is. 6-7 years of development and they give us this? No, man, just no, I'm sorry.
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
  • 0

    posted a message on The reason we're mad.
    Quote from Brakthir

    LOL. Are you using official forums as an argument now? Are you serious? The very very VERY tiny portion of overall players post on forums and the ones complaining are the vocal minority. The VERY vocal minority. The ones who have rants/issues to complain about usually talk the loudest. The ones who are content...don't post. They keep playing.

    Way to brush off my legit argument with "Excuses, excuses." Good to know you have nothing legit or concrete to bring to this table.

    Legit argument? How is that a legit argument to say that heeding user reviews is naive? They're the most open and brutal, they show the players' real independent views, they don't work for anyone.

    How do you know? Some of them don't even know english, some don't care for the forums. Why do you naturally assume that they are playing the game when they're not on the forums? You don't speak for them.
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
  • 0

    posted a message on The reason we're mad.
    Quote from Brakthir

    Quote from InfidelMan

    Quote from inbredpsychosis

    Quote from Kildeer888
    It only scored an 88 on Metacritic for instance. And 8.5 on Gamespot.

    Those are pretty good scores, you know?

    I don't get it, why do people think that those scores matter? What matters is the user score, that is the most accurate measure of the game's status. The sad thing is that the user score for Diablo 3 is 4.1 on metacritic, compared to the critic score that is 88. Critic score is based on shallow criteria. Sure the game is fun in the beginning. But Diablo is a game that is meant to be replayed over and over, kind of like Diablo 2/LOD was and that is where the USERS of the game have the final say of the quality of the end-product.

    Face it, Diablo 3 is a mediocre game. And I do agree with the OP +1. Just get the refund, the only way blizzard will learn anything.

    You do know that user scores are bullshit right? Sites like 4chan and various other troll sites encourge their users to actively post bad reviews of video games. Case in point, Mass Effect 3.

    Saying to judge a game based on metacritic's or actually any site's user reviews is just a sign of your naivety.

    Excuses excuses. Just read some of those reviews from casual users, many differ in their gripes but overall end up in that the game is mediocre. Have you visited the official Diablo 3 forums lately? Endless 'this is boring', 'I want a refund', 'how to get a refund', 'why Diablo is a flop' threads nonestop. It is evident, you can't make this shit up. And look at these forums, lower number of such threads but still. Case and point here. The game is fine for first run or two at most, but then it's meh. But it is SURE AS HELL not a Dibalo 2 killer, anyone who thinks that is mentally challenged or has never played Diablo 2/LOD.

    Edit:
    How is that naive? Users are the ones that give the most blatant and raw reviews, they say what they feel openly and when it is the majority it usually means a whole lot, generally it is unbiased. You actually trusting the reviews of the official critics is what really makes you the naive one. Like I said, they base their score on shallow criteria: Graphics(In a conventional sense), initial gameplay mechanics etc, not the end game. They don't delve deep into it. And most probably never even played Diablo 2/LOD.
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
  • 0

    posted a message on The reason we're mad.
    Quote from inbredpsychosis

    Quote from Kildeer888
    It only scored an 88 on Metacritic for instance. And 8.5 on Gamespot.

    Those are pretty good scores, you know?

    I don't get it, why do people think that those scores matter? What matters is the user score, that is the most accurate measure of the game's status. The sad thing is that the user score for Diablo 3 is 4.1 on metacritic, compared to the critic score that is 88. Critic score is based on shallow criteria. Sure the game is fun in the beginning. But Diablo is a game that is meant to be replayed over and over, kind of like Diablo 2/LOD was and that is where the USERS of the game have the final say of the quality of the end-product.

    Face it, Diablo 3 is a mediocre game. And I do agree with the OP +1. Just get the refund, the only way blizzard will learn anything.

    Edit: The score is 4.0 now and dropping. Vocal minority huh? Don't kid yourselves. Posters here that are raging at the OP are either in complete fanboy denial or you haven't clocked in 60 hours yet. Just wait. The RMAH will be the last nail in the coffin for this game, mark my words.
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
  • 0

    posted a message on Finally got my refund!
    Quote from ruksak

    Quote from InfidelMan

    Even at alpha the mod owns and it's created by one man. An Alpha is to be expected to have bugs. A 'finished' product like Diablo 3 that took 6-7 years to develop by a gaming industry titan must not have this much fail. If you, as a long time Diablo fan, are not insulted by this then you're just blind to the obvious. Arma 2 CO cost $25 for a BUTTLOAD of content that enables you to create any scenario imaginable. And Blizzard releases a beta-stage game as a 'finished' product and I have the audacity? You've got to be kidding me, seriously.

    If D3 is a "finished product"....explain to us why they are openly communicating with players, fixing issues daily and showing their unmitigated intent to continue not only fixing bugs/imbalances, but to provide us with enhanced content, expansions etc? D2 certainly as shit wasn't a finished product when it was released, and it went on to be considered one of the greatest RPG's in history.

    D3 isn't "finished"...it won't be "finished" for years to come. You got froggy and jumped ship like an Italian boat captain...all too soon. As I predicted a week ago, impatient and boisterous players like you will come running back only to find everyone so far ahead of you.

    Oh gee, they took 1 second off of smoke screen, they sure are working their butts off, add a second here, .5 seconds there.... All they do to 'balance' the classes is nerf them, that's all I've seen them do so far. D2 wasn't getting players bored on the 2nd or 3rd day of playing, that's the problem. The system is fundamentally messed up. To fix it, they have to rework the whole skill and stat system to even bring it close to Diablo 2's level, which let you choose a shitton of builds for the end game that took effort and strategy to realize, which was actually fun. And they won't do that, it's impractical.

    ''D3 isn't "finished"...it won't be "finished" for years to come. You got froggy and jumped ship like an Italian boat captain...all too soon. As I predicted a week ago, impatient and boisterous players like you will come running back only to find everyone so far ahead of you. ''

    So why did they release it so unfinished, why was it necessary? You're pretty much justifying my refund request. 65 hours isn't that soon. This was the only game that I actually was excited for for a long time, since 06. I followed it's development for even before it got announced when this site was called Diablo3.com. I played D1 as a kid, 2 in my teenage years, it's a game that I and my brother and close friends grew up with and now it's just a huge disappointment, the new team just mutilated the franchise pretty much. So I'm quite positive I won't be trying it out again, even when expansions come out, I don't trust blizzard on the Diablo series anymore after this flop, no matter what they promise.

    Anyway, if you genuinely enjoy playing this game then I'm happy for you. I personally don't get it, but have fun.
    Nice reference to costa concordia there. Alright, that's the last post, this went on long enough lol. Cya :D
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
  • 0

    posted a message on Finally got my refund!
    Quote from Tralari

    Quote from InfidelMan

    Like other posters on here stated, Diablo is a franchise that is meant to be replayed. What is the point of AH and RMAH then and the different builds and randomized events? Why would someone be expected to spend real life money for a one-time run through game? Seriously, do you think the whole content is worth the $60? Let's be reasonable here. The game does not have the replay value like it's predecessor, imo, no scratch that, it's a fact.
    Especially since the game is capable of delivering many more hours of fun beyond that without a monthly subscription fee.

    I fail to see that.


    Quote from touzoku

    Quote from InfidelMan

    Quote from ruksak

    Quote from InfidelMan

    Maybe I just grew up, who knows. But it just doesn't feel right, nothing about it does.
    More interested in FPS games now and no, not COD.

    Yes, because FPS's are "grown up".


    I'm a milsim freak. I don't think a COD kiddie would last long in Arma 2 or Project Reality.

    Btw, to the people that are bored with D3 and want to try something new for less try the ultimate Zombie Survival mod with an open persistent world, 'DayZ'. That thing is addictive as hell.

    Ive played a quite a few hours of DayZ, and I gotta say if that's what you're leaving D3 for, it's kind of ironic. DayZ is in Alpha, and is unstable as all hell, i've lost entire 4 hour play sessions to server issues.

    Grats on your refund though, enjoy another carbon copy Military Shooter with that $60. Go to say though, your audacity puzzles me.

    Even at alpha the mod owns and it's created by one man. An Alpha is to be expected to have bugs. A 'finished' product like Diablo 3 that took 6-7 years to develop by a gaming industry titan must not have this much fail. If you, as a long time Diablo fan, are not insulted by this then you're just blind to the obvious. Arma 2 CO cost $25 for a BUTTLOAD of content that enables you to create any scenario imaginable. And Blizzard releases a beta-stage game as a 'finished' product and I have the audacity? You've got to be kidding me, seriously.
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
  • 0

    posted a message on Finally got my refund!
    Quote from Asphyxiate

    Quote from InfidelMan

    Quote from Zirthimon

    Quote from mavfin

    Please don't take offense, InfidelMan, but I hope this means you'll stop posting telling us how bad the game is? :D :D

    Well said. This dude likes to hear himself talk. I remember seeing him spam the forum during the beta. Please , if you have a shred of decency in you, please stop posting here immediately. You,re a sniveling whiner a your griping is getting old fast. I have to say what most others have been saying here. You have a lot of nerve asking for a refund after sinking 65 hour into a game.

    I wasn't even active on here during the beta and how would you know being registered today? Nerve? Blizzard is the one that had the nerve to release a beta game, you prick. What nerve?

    Do you ask for refunds after watching movies?

    LOL you spoiled child

    huh?
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
  • 0

    posted a message on Finally got my refund!
    Quote from EvilHolyGuy

    Quote from InfidelMan

    I wasn't even active on here during the beta and how would you know being registered today?

    Because people can't lurk for a while before they make an account.

    I wouldn't take it personally anyways, people hate complainers as much as you (apparently) hated D3.

    You can even look at my history. I maybe made like one post at best somewhere and it wasn't even about 'hating'.
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
  • To post a comment, please or register a new account.