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    Guys, stop responding. Just let a mod come lock this and throw out some infractions for trolling. It's inevitable at this point.

    Yeah, I pretty much gave up hope on getting anything of sense from him at this point.

    I feel the same about you.
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    lol, Diablo 3 sold on the name alone. And I wouldn't be surprised it having less players than Diablo 2 right now. The fact that it initially sold 10 million means nothing when you look at the user reviews on any gaming website including here. Go check out the 'is diablo 3 boring' thread.

    /yawn

    So the MetaScore of 90 means everyone that professionally reviewd the game are full of it? Of course, then there are the trolls that coutner with, "They were paid by Blizz to post a good review." Get a life. It's a video game.

    HAHA, 'professionally'. Dude, the game itself in the beginning is great. It is fun for the first 2 difficulties. Journalistic critics are shallow at this point and are irrelevant. I mean they even give COD good reviews. They didn't take into account the end-game of Diablo 3, the replayability aspect, etc. The based it on the pretty graphics, and gameplay with shit exploding and shaking oh how kewwwl. Users show the REAL feelings about the game. And as you can see, the majority is disappointed.

    Also, could you point me to over 5 MILLION dissapointed players?

    Even 4 million?

    3?

    1?

    500,000?

    No? Could you even direct me to 1% of the user base being "dissapointed"?

    Imagine that.

    You can't possibly survey every single player. But taking into account those players that use these review websites, fan-sites like this one, the official forums etc, the majority IS disappointed. It is a good representation of the entire player base. And I highly doubt even 500,000 people are playing right now.

    Here I am back at the waiting.

    I'll make 3 BOLD predictions here, all on Blizzard games that have received very similar kinds of hate;

    Prediction #1 MoP, the much whined about, often hated on expansion to WoW, will sell more units on day 1 then any other MMO on the planet.

    Prediction #2 HoTS, the second installment in SC2 will outsell any other RTS game, heck, any other PC game on day 1.

    Prediction #3 The first D3 expansion will hit or break the sales records D3 has set in the first week.

    Watch, wait and learn.

    What real competition is there for WoW? Doesn't wow have like 10 million subscribers? Blizzard built a great name for their titles in early 2000s up until 2008. After that it took a U-turn. Now you see them make desperate attempts at regaining players like the 'buy x months/years of WoW subs and get a free 'non-wow blizzard product''.

    HoTs I don't care for and I doubt it will sell more. Even Battlefield 2 sold more than Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3.

    "Prediction #3 The first D3 expansion will hit or break the sales records D3 has set in the first week."
    HAHAHA, nice one.


    Everyone HATES CoD right? I mean, its a freaking Meme on the net to hate on that series right? So, everyone MUST dislike it, and hate it for a variety of reasons right? Because the internet says so?

    Then please, PLEASE explain to me why CoD games sales actually go UP everytime a new one is released? Not just once or twice, but EVERY SINGLE TIME?

    Reality man, get a dose of it.

    It's called marketing. There are way more ADHD kiddies out there than actual FPS lovers. You go for the common majority to generate more sales. Marketing 101. Yes, that REALITY. Stop living in a bubble world.

    Are you really so delusional to think that people would keep buying and PLAYING a game series based off marketing alone?

    Personal experience would not factor in at all? I mean sure, marketing hype could account for the first games sales, and maybe the second, but after that, players would have a pretty good idea what they would be getting.

    You talk about living in a bubble, when clearly, coherent thought is an enigma to you......

    Delusional? That's the whole point the majority BUYS the games. That's the reality. Media has a very good effect on people nowdays. "I mean sure, marketing hype could account for the first games sales, and maybe the second, but after that, players would have a pretty good idea what they would be getting." - THERE IT IS.

    Listen, COD is not a bad game per se. It's a mindless-action game. Shit exploding everywhere, BOOM headshot! etc, so in a sense it cures boredom, kinda. That's why I call it for people that have ADHD, ANYONE can play it. But it has no depth, no intelligence curve to it like say, BattleField series or Arma 2 etc.
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    I love it how you direct that at me and not the obvious troll that I'm responding to....

    Nah, you're trolling with biased uninformed opinions. It was directed at you for a reason, and it applies to everyone that aren't doing what Daemaro is quoted on.

    Any obvious Diablo 3 flaw that is pointed out on these forums is always called 'trolling and hating'. But pro Diablo 3 trolls are overlooked. Talk about bias. You guys can't take simple criticism. Blizzard preys on that, that's why they're so quick to delete criticism
    threads on the official forums and they're working overtime. If you just say, 'oh the game has issues, but I'm sure it will be fixed' is just a weak attempt at calming yourself. You gotta present specific gripes about it and in numbers to make blizzard listen. Otherwise they don't care.

    Remember the battle.net 2.0, when it was released without chat channels, people starting 'whining' and 'trolling' about it's lame features and how can there possibly not be chat channels? And after like 3 months, they finally implemented them even though before Blizzard said that, 'but seriously, who HONESTLY used chat channels? hurhurhur'. They're ignorant right now, we gotta open their eyes so that they fix this horrid disappointment.

    What are you even talking about?

    Could you please direct me to a SINGLE constructive criticism you have had in this very thread? Just a single one?

    Because all I have seen is mindless blind hate and uninformed BS.

    Heck I have even pointed out D3's shortcomings, and many others have too. On this very forum. (example, Legendarys, yup, they sucked, we know, and look, they are addressing them directly. Skills, some of them sucked, and surprise! Guess what they are doing?)

    You know you dont have a leg to stand on when you have to misdirect the conversation to something completely unrelated.....

    I did present a whole variety of specific criticism yesterday. And Daemaro deleted it because it was "uncivil".

    What exactly are they doing with the skills? +/- to damage here and there, +/- 0.4 seconds here and there? You call that fixing?

    You were the one that misdirected it to COD and other blizzard titles, hypocrite. Typical fanboy troll.
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    lol, Diablo 3 sold on the name alone. And I wouldn't be surprised it having less players than Diablo 2 right now. The fact that it initially sold 10 million means nothing when you look at the user reviews on any gaming website including here. Go check out the 'is diablo 3 boring' thread.

    /yawn

    So the MetaScore of 90 means everyone that professionally reviewd the game are full of it? Of course, then there are the trolls that coutner with, "They were paid by Blizz to post a good review." Get a life. It's a video game.

    HAHA, 'professionally'. Dude, the game itself in the beginning is great. It is fun for the first 2 difficulties. Journalistic critics are shallow at this point and are irrelevant. I mean they even give COD good reviews. They didn't take into account the end-game of Diablo 3, the replayability aspect, etc. The based it on the pretty graphics, and gameplay with shit exploding and shaking oh how kewwwl. Users show the REAL feelings about the game. And as you can see, the majority is disappointed.

    Also, could you point me to over 5 MILLION dissapointed players?

    Even 4 million?

    3?

    1?

    500,000?

    No? Could you even direct me to 1% of the user base being "dissapointed"?

    Imagine that.

    You can't possibly survey every single player. But taking into account those players that use these review websites, fan-sites like this one, the official forums etc, the majority IS disappointed. It is a good representation of the entire player base. And I highly doubt even 500,000 people are playing right now.

    Here I am back at the waiting.

    I'll make 3 BOLD predictions here, all on Blizzard games that have received very similar kinds of hate;

    Prediction #1 MoP, the much whined about, often hated on expansion to WoW, will sell more units on day 1 then any other MMO on the planet.

    Prediction #2 HoTS, the second installment in SC2 will outsell any other RTS game, heck, any other PC game on day 1.

    Prediction #3 The first D3 expansion will hit or break the sales records D3 has set in the first week.

    Watch, wait and learn.

    What real competition is there for WoW? Doesn't wow have like 10 million subscribers? Blizzard built a great name for their titles in early 2000s up until 2008. After that it took a U-turn. Now you see them make desperate attempts at regaining players like the 'buy x months/years of WoW subs and get a free 'non-wow blizzard product''.

    HoTs I don't care for and I doubt it will sell more. Even Battlefield 2 sold more than Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3.

    "Prediction #3 The first D3 expansion will hit or break the sales records D3 has set in the first week."
    HAHAHA, nice one.


    Everyone HATES CoD right? I mean, its a freaking Meme on the net to hate on that series right? So, everyone MUST dislike it, and hate it for a variety of reasons right? Because the internet says so?

    Then please, PLEASE explain to me why CoD games sales actually go UP everytime a new one is released? Not just once or twice, but EVERY SINGLE TIME?

    Reality man, get a dose of it.

    It's called marketing. There are way more ADHD kiddies out there than actual FPS lovers. You go for the common majority to generate more sales. Marketing 101. Yes, that REALITY. Stop living in a bubble world.
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    posted a message on Diablo III is dead.
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    I love it how you direct that at me and not the obvious troll that I'm responding to....

    Nah, you're trolling with biased uninformed opinions. It was directed at you for a reason, and it applies to everyone that aren't doing what Daemaro is quoted on.

    Any obvious Diablo 3 flaw that is pointed out on these forums is always called 'trolling and hating'. But pro Diablo 3 trolls are overlooked. Talk about bias. You guys can't take simple criticism. Blizzard preys on that, that's why they're so quick to delete criticism
    threads on the official forums and they're working overtime. If you just say, 'oh the game has issues, but I'm sure it will be fixed' is just a weak attempt at calming yourself. You gotta present specific gripes about it and in numbers to make blizzard listen. Otherwise they don't care.

    Remember the battle.net 2.0, when it was released without chat channels, people starting 'whining' and 'trolling' about it's lame features and how can there possibly not be chat channels? And after like 3 months, they finally implemented them even though before Blizzard said that, 'but seriously, who HONESTLY used chat channels? hurhurhur'. They're ignorant right now, we gotta open their eyes so that they fix this horrid disappointment.
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    posted a message on Diablo III is dead.
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    Dear Troll Man,

    I believe you asked for a discussion of "civility." Dae did respond in a very timely manner. It appears that you didn't read a single thing he said. I will save you the time of going back a page and scrolling around. I would suggest you re-read it because it's pretty stupid that you are blatantly ignoring what he said in this very thread about keeping it civil.

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    Civil means not arguing with one another. It's fine to say "look this is what I think is wrong with the game, and they could do X to improve it." That's a legitimate complaint and your personal feelings on the game. What is not okay is to bicker with eachother to no positive end. Constructive discussion on how to better the game if you feel its lacking is good, explaining how the game is a complete failure and never will be good is... well accomplishing what besides arguing? I mean can you at least see what I'm getting at?

    If you feel the game is so far gone there's no hope then what do you want to accomplish with a discussion besides leading it into arguing? If you want to discuss things you think the game needs that's a nice discussion and perfectly okay because people can work with that. There has to be room for discussion. I'm not going to allow any posts or topics that are ONLY offering argument instead of discussion. It's not a question of it being a negative thread, we have tons of those.

    I understand a good handful of people have problems with the game, that's okay but talk it out. We all love the Diablo franchise and care about the well being of D3 to some extent or we wouldn't be here. Keep that in mind. We're all here because of a mutual love of something and we don't all have to feel the same way about it, but it needs to be presented in a way that isn't automatically offensive to one side or the other.

    We're all brothers in arms and I <3 you all. Please keep it civil, don't make it personal, and allow room for differing opinions.

    I love it how you direct that at me and not the obvious troll that I'm responding to....
    I'm just responding to his points. All he does is 'hur dur, wait for expansion I laugh at you, durhur'.
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    lol, Diablo 3 sold on the name alone. And I wouldn't be surprised it having less players than Diablo 2 right now. The fact that it initially sold 10 million means nothing when you look at the user reviews on any gaming website including here. Go check out the 'is diablo 3 boring' thread.

    /yawn

    So the MetaScore of 90 means everyone that professionally reviewd the game are full of it? Of course, then there are the trolls that coutner with, "They were paid by Blizz to post a good review." Get a life. It's a video game.

    HAHA, 'professionally'. Dude, the game itself in the beginning is great. It is fun for the first 2 difficulties. Journalistic critics are shallow at this point and are irrelevant. I mean they even give COD good reviews. They didn't take into account the end-game of Diablo 3, the replayability aspect, etc. The based it on the pretty graphics, and gameplay with shit exploding and shaking oh how kewwwl. Users show the REAL feelings about the game. And as you can see, the majority is disappointed.

    Also, could you point me to over 5 MILLION dissapointed players?

    Even 4 million?

    3?

    1?

    500,000?

    No? Could you even direct me to 1% of the user base being "dissapointed"?

    Imagine that.

    You can't possibly survey every single player. But taking into account those players that use these review websites, fan-sites like this one, the official forums etc, the majority IS disappointed. It is a good representation of the entire player base. And I highly doubt even 500,000 people are playing right now.

    Here I am back at the waiting.

    I'll make 3 BOLD predictions here, all on Blizzard games that have received very similar kinds of hate;

    Prediction #1 MoP, the much whined about, often hated on expansion to WoW, will sell more units on day 1 then any other MMO on the planet.

    Prediction #2 HoTS, the second installment in SC2 will outsell any other RTS game, heck, any other PC game on day 1.

    Prediction #3 The first D3 expansion will hit or break the sales records D3 has set in the first week.

    Watch, wait and learn.

    What real competition is there for WoW? Doesn't wow have like 10 million subscribers? Blizzard built a great name for their titles in early 2000s up until 2008. After that it took a U-turn. Now you see them make desperate attempts at regaining players like the 'buy x months/years of WoW subs and get a free 'non-wow blizzard product''.

    HoTs I don't care for and I doubt it will sell more. Even Battlefield 2 sold more than Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3.

    "Prediction #3 The first D3 expansion will hit or break the sales records D3 has set in the first week."
    HAHAHA, nice one.
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    lol, Diablo 3 sold on the name alone. And I wouldn't be surprised it having less players than Diablo 2 right now. The fact that it initially sold 10 million means nothing when you look at the user reviews on any gaming website including here. Go check out the 'is diablo 3 boring' thread.

    /yawn

    So the MetaScore of 90 means everyone that professionally reviewd the game are full of it? Of course, then there are the trolls that coutner with, "They were paid by Blizz to post a good review." Get a life. It's a video game.

    HAHA, 'professionally'. Dude, the game itself in the beginning is great. It is fun for the first 2 difficulties. Journalistic critics are shallow at this point and are irrelevant. I mean they even give COD good reviews. They didn't take into account the end-game of Diablo 3, the replayability aspect, etc. The based it on the pretty graphics, and gameplay with shit exploding and shaking oh how kewwwl. Users show the REAL feelings about the game. And as you can see, the majority is disappointed.

    Also, could you point me to over 5 MILLION dissapointed players?

    Even 4 million?

    3?

    1?

    500,000?

    No? Could you even direct me to 1% of the user base being "dissapointed"?

    Imagine that.

    You can't possibly survey every single player. But taking into account those players that use these review websites, fan-sites like this one, the official forums etc, the majority IS disappointed. It is a good representation of the entire player base. And I highly doubt even 500,000 people are playing right now.
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    Oh joy! Another troll-thread complaining about how Blizzard isn't listening to The Right People.

    The internet definitely needs more of those.


    Dude stop trolling this post, this guy is serious and he has a good point. It's quite obvious, d3 wont be nearly as good as d2 ever was.

    D3 already has a larger player base then D2 ever had, it also has more players on at one time RIGHT NOW then D2 ever did.

    Reality sure is a sucker punch to troll balls isnt it?

    Honestly, Im gonna laugh so damn hard at the internet as a whole when D3 gets an expansion, and it sells like 10 million copies on week 1 again.

    lol, Diablo 3 sold on the name alone. And I wouldn't be surprised it having less players than Diablo 2 right now. The fact that it initially sold 10 million means nothing when you look at the user reviews on any gaming website including here. Go check out the 'is diablo 3 boring' thread.

    Uh huh.

    Whatever you got to tell yourself to make it through the day.

    You see, all I have to do, is wait, then laugh.

    I can do that.

    Wait for what?

    The inevitable surge in players for 1.0.4, the inevitable sales of the D3 expansion, the inevitable surge again when PvP drops, etc, etc, etc.

    Hence, the "waiting".

    Im sure you will try and rationalize all of these things, with sad and uninformed reasoning as to why D3 still "sucks".

    Hence my "laughing".

    haha, that's what you guys said when the game was released and that's what you said after every fail patch and the population is still declining. I was also optimistic with a couple of initial patches, then I gave up because I saw that blizzard won't radically change Diablo 3. RMAH will always be a constant, it is a must for their business model.

    Now to expansion. Given how much butthurt is out there about the game, a lot of people that thought of buying it, won't, I'm one of them. I uninstalled Diablo 3 a month ago and I don't even miss. But I'm a Diablo fan and I still have a small glimmer of hope left for Diablo 3, but it's REALLY small now because I see how Blizzard treats the franchise now and it's sad. It's probably gonna be another, 'buy 6 months world of warcraft subscription and you get free Diablo 3 expansion'. Even people that don't care for it and play wow would do it.
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    posted a message on Diablo III is dead.
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    lol, Diablo 3 sold on the name alone. And I wouldn't be surprised it having less players than Diablo 2 right now. The fact that it initially sold 10 million means nothing when you look at the user reviews on any gaming website including here. Go check out the 'is diablo 3 boring' thread.

    /yawn

    So the MetaScore of 90 means everyone that professionally reviewd the game are full of it? Of course, then there are the trolls that coutner with, "They were paid by Blizz to post a good review." Get a life. It's a video game.

    HAHA, 'professionally'. Dude, the game itself in the beginning is great. It is fun for the first 2 difficulties. Journalistic critics are shallow at this point and are irrelevant. I mean they even give COD good reviews. They didn't take into account the end-game of Diablo 3, the replayability aspect, etc. The based it on the pretty graphics, and gameplay with shit exploding and shaking oh how kewwwl. Users show the REAL feelings about the game. And as you can see, the majority is disappointed.
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    posted a message on Diablo III is dead.
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    Oh joy! Another troll-thread complaining about how Blizzard isn't listening to The Right People.

    The internet definitely needs more of those.


    Dude stop trolling this post, this guy is serious and he has a good point. It's quite obvious, d3 wont be nearly as good as d2 ever was.

    D3 already has a larger player base then D2 ever had, it also has more players on at one time RIGHT NOW then D2 ever did.

    Reality sure is a sucker punch to troll balls isnt it?

    Honestly, Im gonna laugh so damn hard at the internet as a whole when D3 gets an expansion, and it sells like 10 million copies on week 1 again.

    lol, Diablo 3 sold on the name alone. And I wouldn't be surprised it having less players than Diablo 2 right now. The fact that it initially sold 10 million means nothing when you look at the user reviews on any gaming website including here. Go check out the 'is diablo 3 boring' thread.

    Uh huh.

    Whatever you got to tell yourself to make it through the day.

    You see, all I have to do, is wait, then laugh.

    I can do that.

    Wait for what?
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    posted a message on Diablo III is dead.
    Quote from AudioCG

    Quote from Greavers

    Quote from Catalept

    Oh joy! Another troll-thread complaining about how Blizzard isn't listening to The Right People.

    The internet definitely needs more of those.


    Dude stop trolling this post, this guy is serious and he has a good point. It's quite obvious, d3 wont be nearly as good as d2 ever was.

    D3 already has a larger player base then D2 ever had, it also has more players on at one time RIGHT NOW then D2 ever did.

    Reality sure is a sucker punch to troll balls isnt it?

    Honestly, Im gonna laugh so damn hard at the internet as a whole when D3 gets an expansion, and it sells like 10 million copies on week 1 again.

    lol, Diablo 3 sold on the name alone. And I wouldn't be surprised it having less players than Diablo 2 right now. The fact that it initially sold 10 million means nothing when you look at the user reviews on any gaming website including here. Go check out the 'is diablo 3 boring' thread.
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    posted a message on Diablo III is dead.
    Ok, Daemaro. Can you please explain, 'civil'? Seriously.
    Are we allowed to even criticize Diablo 3? Or is that uncivil?
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    What a sucky game, I only have 200 hours /played time, which is like 10 times more than almost every other game I've played! QQQQQQQQQQQQQ

    If you don't like the game, just stop playing and leave. Bye. Don't flood forums with those dumb "game sucks" "game is dead" topics, because honestly who gives a crap?

    I do. And apparently you do too since you took the time out of your precious gaming to post that.

    You obviously don't get the point. Diablo is not supposed to be a months or weeks game. Diablo was always about longevity and replayability, which Diablo 3 obviously lacks right now. Be honest with yourself, would you be still be playing this game in 5 years?

    You obviously don't get the point.

    THEY ARE MAKING CHANGES THE SKY IS NOT FALLING NOTHING IS DEAD EXCEPT MY BRAIN CELLS FROM READING THIS SHIT

    Hopefully caps helps emphasize some things.

    Wtf did they fix? It's getting worse and worse and it is directly correlating with the significant drop in d3 players. Not even PVP will save the game. If you think it will, then you're in for a huge disappointment. Because that's the same as saying that that will be the only end-game. That is sad.
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    posted a message on Diablo III is dead.
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    What a sucky game, I only have 200 hours /played time, which is like 10 times more than almost every other game I've played! QQQQQQQQQQQQQ

    If you don't like the game, just stop playing and leave. Bye. Don't flood forums with those dumb "game sucks" "game is dead" topics, because honestly who gives a crap?

    I do. And apparently you do too since you took the time out of your precious gaming to post that.

    You obviously don't get the point. Diablo is not supposed to be a months or weeks game. Diablo was always about longevity and replayability, which Diablo 3 obviously lacks right now. Be honest with yourself, would you be still be playing this game in 5 years?
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