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Completely doctored stats. They take ALL chars into account for their stats. Given that probably 50-60% of all characters are mules, or under level 5, it's complete BS.
I'd estimate about 30-40% of all players are in Inferno. Probably more.
LOL. You have no perspective about any kind of gamer other than yourself (hardcore/skilled gamer) if you honestly believe what you just said.
Most of the people clear Normal and never continue. The other people probably couldn't make it through Nightmare.
You have to understand that most people are not you. We are the 1% (well probably more like top 5%) of gamers, and it wasn't hard to get here. It just happens because there are so many other gamers gaming for so many different reasons.
Blizzard may or may not be inflating their statistics but the real % in Inferno is not even half of what you suggested. Not even close.
Sure, if blinding yourself and feeling "elite" makes you all warm and fuzzy. Why don't they show the percentages of ACCOUNTS that have unlocked Inferno then?
No, the stats shown are chosen very carefully, in order to push a point.
You just don't have any perspective on the gaming population if you honestly believe anywhere near 40% of accounts have unlocked Inferno. That's just absurd.
Have you at least thought for a second that people in hell act 4 just don't want to go inferno seeing how hopeless it is? A little more than 1% that made it to inferno is nothing for blizzard to boast about. They think it means, 'oh you didnt make to inferno, then you have no reason to complain', wait what? DAFUQ? Need a slap, blizzard? There are so many messed up things in Daiblo 3 right now, that it's not just inferno. Almost everything is f*cked, except for graphics and pretty WoW spells. Even at that graphics are kiddie.
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Please, tell me you're joking when you say there is Diablo-like atmosphere in ANY of the acts.
It lacks the gothic, eerie feel completely. PoE though captured it nicely, especially in solaris and lunaris temples + the music score, It's just perfect.
Go on youtube, watch the video and compare them to Diablo 3's atmosphere and then come back here and say that again.
I distinctly remember people on these forums longing for a final heaven vs hell battle scenario, which would see the heroes defend heaven at some point in the game. That was like years before announcement and after it. Everyone wanted that shit. It was a good idea, but poorly executed. It would be way better to defend heaven and then chase Diablo back to hell for a final battle, or something idk.
Also, it's not just itemization for me. It's almost everything from the ground up, including the battle.net. It's just fucked up in so many ways, it's really hard to see it regain any life. For that they'll need to completely eradicate the idiotic concept of linear areas and objectives, redesign battle.net, or at least bring back the useful features, add skill trees, stat points as well. The fucking health globes they can keep for all I care. But, that will never happen. They can only tune up some imbalances, and add new content in the expansion. But the core will remain the same.
Although, they got the gameplay and combat SPOT on, perfect. But that's it.
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I don't particularly find the graphics all that impressive. Technically, they are better. But that is irrelevant when the game should be a successor in the Diablo franchise. They're pretty, but they don't complement the Diablo universe.
There are just so many things to bash about this game, I just started with the atmosphere, which many Diablo fans held dear.
About the public games. I rarely experienced those problems when I played. Right now, they're probably more common. I never found it to be bothersome. You still had people responding to questions, trade etc. It was much easier to make friends and game with those people for weeks at a time. There was a much better social atmosphere. There is none now. You log into battle.net and you feel completely isolated, like you're in a singleplayer. Every single feature has it's pros and cons. Blizzard took away that feature based on trivial cons. What you're doing is trying to rationalize it to make yourself feel better because you want to remain complacent. Ask any Diablo 2 fan, they never wanted chat channels and public games feature be taken away. You know it very well. The pros of those features starkly outweighed the cons.
So when you combine all that shit together(nonexistent atmosphere, anti-social atmosphere, linear areas, limited builds, zero variety in items, no stat points, no skill trees, infinite amount of identity/portal scrolls, health globes, RMAH/AH and ofc, the saturday morning cartoon plot) They game looks bleak and I can't even realize how you can still like it even though you've agreed on many of my points.
If only PoE and Diablo 3 had sex, it would be the perfect successor to Diablo 2.
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And it IS Blizzard's fault. It has nothing to do with elitism. I remember playing WoW in 2006, even the newbies talked, asked for help with quests etc. But now with these spoon fed help tips with the arrow on the compass, the highlighted area of where to farm for the x item and where to kill the y monster. The dungeon finder is what ultimately fucked it up. Sure, it is EASIER, but it doesn't necessarily mean it is better.
Players used be able to make public games, with asking for help, trade, give aways, etc. There were endless possibilities, it was all freedom. Like a sandbox. You could travel between the acts, there were much grander areas. In Diablo 3 it's all linear. Who hell wants to play that? They didn't borrow anything from other games other than the AH, which failed. They mostly took away things in exchange for pretty graphics and facebook support. That is the problem.
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They're just hardcore gamers. It's not like I base my position solely on their opinions. I am a casual gamer now, since I don't have that much time for games. They have a lot of time on their hands, obviously, and that just means they are familiar with the depth and all the nuances. Better than us. But I still agree with their general view of Diablo 3 right now.
And looking at most Blizzard releases so far and the direction they're taking, it is all consistent in that it is all being simplified. Look at WoW shortly after the release of Wotlk. Not that I played much WoW, but I did when it was actually challenging and fun. Now there is no social interaction at all. Last time I played was a year ago. NO ONE effing talked in a group. It was all robotic movements along the objectives. Felt almost like I was playing a singleplayer game. Same thing with Battle.net 2.0. They took away almost every single useful feature that was in 1.0 and added facebook support, inter product communication and new shiny graphics. This whole over simplification trend is mirrored in Diablo 3 as well. And to add insult to injury they're now going to release Diablo 3 on consoles WITHOUT the AH. How can you still have hope that it will become better. It is no longer the blizzard of early to mid 2000s.
I also remember Jay Wilson saying that he wanted to make Diablo 3 so that even a granny could just hop on and be able to play it. It was shortly before release I think, or during unveiling. Should be somewhere on youtube. Back then, for some reason, I thought it was a good thing...... silly me.
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You can't answer, you're just making excuses with piss poor attempts to insult the Diablo 2 player base that is disappointed with D3. I played Diablo 2 a lot during it's peak. That was when I was in high school. I had shit tons of homework, I was on the school's soccer team and I still appreciated it's complexity and mechanics that made me actually THINK. It was fun to plan out my build instead of being spoon fed like a minor stroke victim, and not be patronized by the story line.
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Where is the 3 million, show me the graph. And if it's really 3 million(although I LOL at that you actually believe that), There was like 10 million copies sold. So, the game lost 7 million. Isn't that your simpleton logic? And add to that the bots and chinese gold farmers who probably are more than 50% of that base.
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Here is your Diablo 3 numbers on amazon.
http://www.amazon.co...ywords=diablo 3
Metacritic reviews
http://www.metacriti...ii/user-reviews
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Are you just trying to wittily justify the simplicity of Diablo 3 as to say that it doesn't need depth or any real challenge since it geared towards people with 5 jobs, a wife and 10 children?
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You're asking for something that is just realistically implausible. Besides, you don't even need charts. Just look at the feedback. And sure, some of it might be rage trolls etc. But you could say the same about "10/10" posts as being raging fanboys. But, fact remains that the majority, the OVERWHELMING majority of users give it less than "5/10". You're going to call all those people trolls? You sound like you're in denial. I was a HUGE fan of Diablo franchise and blizzard fucking RUINED it.
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Charts that kripp played Diablo II 6 years ago? Lol.
He has spoken of Diablo 2 and it's varied build possibilities like millions of times in his videos. How would a person that never played the game be able to do that? Common sense, USE IT. You actually think that Kripp never played Diablo 2?
It doesn't matter, they're hardcore fans of the franchise. It falls into their area of expertise on this genre.
There is something that is called a statistical sample size. There is no possible way to actually hear from every single person that bought the game. But if 75% of vocal 3000 people that bought the game say it sucks, it usually does suck. It doesn't even matter whether 100000000 bought it. Just look at amazon feedback, user feedback on review sites like metacritic. Professional critic scores are based on a very shallow criteria because they only play through the game once. And yes, Diablo 3 is great, FOR ONE TIME PLAY THROUGH. But that is not what Diablo franchise is about.
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OMG, YES! Especially the public games part. If this actually get's implemented and then some I might actually consider coming back to Diablo 3, as long as they fix some core issues. But at least it would be fun to hang out in B.net and actually join games for trades and stuff.
B.net 2.0 was a huge step back with improved graphics and facebook support. They didn't even improve on it.
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I'm one of those "trolls" that moved on, because I can never see D3 live up to it's full potential. It's too linear and there is still tons of things missing. But, hey, paragon levels are a good start I guess. At least Blizzard listened to SOME of our gripes.
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Ok, so what biased misinformation did I promote? Am I wrong that the D3 player base is in a significant decline? Am I wrong that Diablo 3 was sold mostly on the name alone? Seriously.