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Quote from "Veltras" »

Yeah but when you reenter you have to start everything from scratch that's where they get you.

Yeah but it's not that bad. The same thing happens on the realms too. I normally die from a Maphy run before the game becomes perm. It's faster to enter two games in a row and attempt a run than wait for a game to become perm and then try and fail.

But yeah.

Quote from "Romak" »

Hmmm... you're right. I really didn't take that trick into consideration, sorry. I was thinking of single player where the game ends when you leave it, while in Battle.net, even if you leave and right after that enter the game again, you will most of the times succeed in getting in before the game closes. So yeah... that really is a flaw. Though I still prefer having that kind of interactive penalty, and not some stupid thing like percentage reduction to health and mana (Like in Guild Wars).

Nope. The game doesn't end in single player either - your corpse just appears in town the next time you enter.

1. Pure game mode:

This would essentially mean a server (much like a Hardcore server) dedicated for people who wish to work for their gear versus trading for them or getting them for free or buying them from online item shops (which will undoubtedly pop like mushrooms after rain with D3 launching). Basically, this game mode would restrict items dropped by certain bosses or of certain rarity level to be traded freely (this includes restricting players from dropping items or picking up items dropped by another player), much like the binding system as seen in WoW. This grants several perks, but mostly impacts the game in terms of being more competitive and preserving the integrity of the economy (given that crafted items and items of lower level of rarity would be allowed for trade). The single most important part of D2 was the loot, but it mattered very little - you can have a Stormlash, Tyreal's Might and Scheafer's Hammer and no one really cares because you could have gotten it anywhere (read: item shops). I can farm for my items for years and it makes me no different on the progress scale than the next guy who purchased them all from an online item shop within a minute. That makes items have no worth and kills any competitiveness the game should potentially be all about. This is the single most important thing that makes WoW so appealing to people and renders D2 an absolutely fine waste of time and nerves. A separate server should straighten this injustice up for people who wish to compete and earn their items without ruining the experience for people who like to 'trade'.

2. Endgame content:

Instead of making two bosses that you kill 1000 times a day hoping for an item with 0.001% rate to drop - how about providing a greater variety of more challenging bosses with more fixed loot tables. I'd rather travel 16 levels underground, killing four challenging mini-bosses on the way and then facing a boss which requires skill to kill (rather than the ability to click your mouse 230 times per minute), and then be rewarded with more certain valuable drops. Less attempts with less succession rate, and more challenge and time needed, with a greater chance to drop of a smaller variety of unique items versus trivial and generic boss fights which only reward you after thousands of times with a completely random drop. More skill requirement and less luck and randomness, in short. Also, instead of choosing between either Andariel or Mephisto (as the only endgame content in D2) because I can kill one of them more easily than the other with my build, I'd rather choose which boss to engage by comparing the loot tables - and I am hoping for a two digit number of bosses to choose from.

3. Itemization:

Aside for the fact that D2's trading system was flawed in its foundation, an important problem was the fact that certain unified items turned out to simply make a better combination for any class, than item sets which were tailored for each class specifically. Big mistake. As an assassin, the most powerful assassin set, Natalya's Odium, should be the most sufficient and desirable thing for me. If every single class wants their 'Shako & Nigma', that makes trading pretty dull, as everyone potentially wants the same thing. What I would like to see in D3, are items that are perhaps useful to several classes, but most useful to one class it was tuned for. That way a WD with a helmet that is mainly tailored for Barbarians will trade it for certain shoulderpads that grant a boost to the poison damage skills which is useless to a Barbarian. Those two guys will have something to trade. No one is going anywhere if every class ends up wanting same couple of items that are standardly also the most valuable ones.

Another thing is that D2 allowed people to finish the entire game, and reach level 85 in merely two days. Aside for being a very lame concept to begin with, it also makes all mid-level gear obsolete. If I am going to stick between level 30-40 in at least a while in D3, I may require certain low level uniques which makes them a trading good, which they weren't in D2.

Lastly, it would be cute to see some D1 items returning.

4. Learning skills:

I have no doubt that Diablo 3 will boast the most perfect possible skill system. I would still have a tiny suggestion which may or may not be accounted, but since it was never mentioned before, here it is. The first Diablo game hadn't any skill trees or anything of that sort. Skills were learned solely through reading books. Perhaps it would be an interesting concept to have a couple of unique spells that could be learned from reading a book. This book would have to be an extremely rare drop or perhaps even a quest reward, or both. It would mean that all classes could potentially learn these skills, so caution must be made if this practice was to be put to use once again, and those skills must be designed in such way to prevent overlapping with unique skills that make other classes essential to cooperative play.

5. Gold:

Please cut off at least two digits from the amounts. I'd rather have 150 pieces of gold which are worth something, than 150 000 000 that aren't. Lesser values have a better 'feel' of actual worth. Not much different from the real-world situation, I guess!

Quote from "waddlez" »

they have said the acts are actually tons longer than diablo 2, idk where you get acts being a story driven zone == to the acts being 5 minutes long

Actually, no. They said on numeral occasions that they are going for the similar length to those in D2. That may well mean shorter, since each act in D2 had at least 60% dungeons and areas which are completely useless and no one ever entered.

Quote from "oren88" »

Well, it is a big announcement actually.. I want a much bigger game with more act's and more lengh in every act.. not just 4 like in diablo 2, that's kind of disappointing.

Nah it's alright. People would complain it was too 'WoW-ish' if it had a lot of content.

Quote from "lakroz" »

"our memory of what Diablo II was we found that it created a "DRAB, BORING GAME THAT DIDN'T PLAY VERY WELL""- Gay wilson... er jay my bad.

Says 1/3 of the team that created diablo II..

Well this along with them "thinking" about bringing subs into play (remember the rich only want to be richer, this is no different) and changing pvp, i really doubt ill be paying anymore attention to this game...

Jay Willson is a genius, and you are a retard who takes his quotes out of context. He said that it is how they remembered the game before playing through it again, and discovering that it was actually very colourful and vibrant. Apprantly 50.000 people also remember the game as a drab, boring game except that they never bothered to refresh their memory.

PvP without mutual consent can only be used to annoy other people and ruin the fun overall. It does not have a single up side. Does it? Also, your logic is retarded: if I play an online coop game, that means I may wish to make a game and invite 7 other people to do a boss run, and not lock myself in a passworded game just to evade some fuckheads who think killing someone without a fair fight is fun.

It seems that art complainers hate absolutely every aspect of this game and think that any improvement or something new is completely unwelcome. Interesting group of people this is I tell you! Rule of thumb: if big shoulderpads are too manly for you, you are probably not manly enough for true PvP where your your 'opponent' prepares for the fight as you did, and then rapes you in the ass, instead of having you cowardly lurk behind his back and taking him out while he's fighting a large group of monsters and/or being at 5% health. Combined with the mentality of kids who hate WoW because it's not free, having a loose PvP implementation as seen is D2 would be devastating. It's exactly those immature beings who have absolutely no reasoning for what is fun and what isn't, and think it's fun to flood the chats, kill their teammates in FPS games or in this case, sabotage peoples' gameplay by making them have to waste their time by restarting a game and doing something all over again, as if they don't have a life and sit their ass in front of the computer whole day, and only make a break when their mommy brings them Happy Meal when she returns from work.

Quote from "AcidReign" »

There is nothing wrong with Diablo III's art direction - I don't even see why people are complaining as much as they are. To me, Diablo II was a joke compared to Diablo I, and now Diablo III looks much better than Diablo II. Of course, that is MY opinion

I agree 100%

Oh, so you don't care who worked on the actual games, you just get a boner from hearing the name Blizzard North? Well then.

Quote from "Felthuzad_The_Unclean" »

Care to try again?

With pleasure. Your question:

Quote from "Felthuzad_The_Unclean" »

And why isn't there a single person from Blizzard North with a credit on the original Diablo working there now?

And the answer is: Because Blizzard North is something that does not exist. Out of the 0 Blizzard North employees, 100% work on Diablo 3.

Quote from "Felthuzad_The_Unclean" »

And why isn't there a single person from Blizzard North with a credit on the original Diablo working there now?

That single sentence discredits any further bullshit you may say.

It's fascinating how a person of so little knowledge can have so much bullshit and ignorance to contribute to a forum. Oh the wonderful internet.

Carry on.

Quote from "Felthuzad_The_Unclean" »

Sure, maybe with another 8 years or so, we'll finally get a release of content which isn't from the warcraft universe. And maybe with another 10 years, we'll even see some new IP!

No one wants to see a new IP from Blizzard, troll. They're doing a great job so far. It's the fact that they've not been releasing new games on a conveyor belt that made them the best company in the business which will never ever release a mediocre title.

For your information, D2+LoD have maybe 1% amount the content of that introduced in WoW patches only to this day and the expansion doubled the content of the original, and still took more effort than it took to create the entire game that is Diablo 2. They develop and release major content patches approximately once every two months and minor patches every two or three weeks. Hundreds of people provide customer support and maintenance 24/7, and Blizzard is cashing out good money for gameservers all around the world. Yeah, they've had more on their hands any other company would dare to attempt, yet, they found time to please their fans by releasing Diablo 3, which on the long run won't make them any substantial profit (if you consider how much money they poured into it to this day (and some of that money ended up for financing Hellgate production obviously) and that D3 will not be appealing to any fan of hard-core RPG mechanics and serious MMO content), and Starcraft 2. The work they are doing is MONSTROUS!

Quote from "Felthuzad_The_Unclean" »

What was your point again?

And what was your's? That when a company makes too much money they should stop making appealing games because they have enough already?

Quote from "ryanmax24" »

bill ropers expertise lies within story writing he wrote the story line for the whole diablo series do your home work Sol before you try diss the greatest man in the gaming industry.

Not true. The main lore guy who designed the story and quests since the beginning of D1 is still on the D3 team.

P.S. I have nothing against Bill Roper. He sounds pretty honest in the interview. The fact is that Hellgate is a sucky game - he even said it himself that it failed.

P.P.S. The art discussion is really getting old. People seem to not care about the game at all, just how it looks. And even then I don't see reasons for frustration, bitching and exaggeration, because it's pretty much perfect. If you ask me, most places in D2 looked mediocre and bland compared to D1. D3 is bringing more life and character into the mix while keeping awesome atmosphere from the prequels. On top of that, it's trying to step forward and introduce more elaborate game mechanics and quality content. Kind of like a transition that happened from D1 to D2, just on a smaller scale. D3 is closer to D2 than D2 was to D1. After playing D1, and seeing D2 for the first time, I was really disappointed but later got to love it for the gameplay and gameplay only. This time around, I was twitching in awe, seeing what they did with D3, art-wise and gameplay-wise - it surpassed all my expectations and I really believe it's doing justice to the Diablo lore and universe. I also happen to value this opinion of mine a great deal seeing as Blizzard happens to feel the same way - and they are a company that never makes mistakes.

Guys, check the 'Hater VS Fanboy' interview on the last page. It's really funny.

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Quote from "Daemaro" »

Yes. On the Diablo 3 site it says "Ureh" on the wallpaper.

Pffft. That could mean anything.

Quote from "Chaosinborn" »

The angel looks to be inside the shaft of a sword

Yeah, talk about oversized items!