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Both things you said are BS. There's going to be more macabre props later, and no, the skill system is not going to be like WoW - in WoW you learned skills from trainers after reaching certain level, and in Diablo you have skill trees. Don't mix talents with skills. And not all skills will be 5/5 either, you're just imagining.

Thousands of people play Starcraft and it's not an MMO.

Quote from "DesmondTiny" »

WHO BASHES ON DIABLO 1!!!! ANYONE WHO SAYS D1 SUCKS WILL DEAL WITH ME!!!!!! NO ONE BASHED DIABLO1 THE GREATEST GAME OF ALL TIME NO ONE I SWEAR TO THE LIVING LORD I WILL SLAUGHTER ALL PEOPLE WHO SAY DIABLO1 IS GAY RETARDED OR STUPID IN ANYWAY!!!!!!!i!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

I have similar feelings towards all three games (d1-d3).

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The hell, this has been our lastest news for 4 days straight...

Silence before the storm, I say.

And by storm I mean Blizzcon.

In your opinion, true emphasis on the game means moving rocks and bushes around as opposed to randomizing the actual gameplay elements.

P.S. I hope I didn't give you enough material in this post to make your further 'arguments' based on my spelling, where I live, value of my possessions, etc...

Quote from "Felthuzad_The_Unclean" »

Another confused mush of ad hominems. Dime, you are aware that Blizzard has only released games from the Warcraft Universe for the past 8 years, right? And that this could easily be a ten year run before Starcraft II is released.

So? That is supposed to justify your behavior?

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But, really, your "collection" says it all - are we supposed to be impressed by that ultra-rare "Zerg Rush" T-shirt? Interesting that there's nothing from the Diablo series which couldn't have been found on the shelves as of... 2008.

What does that have to do with anything? I live in Serbia, and for you information, there were no retail game stores during the period some of the older Blizzard games existed in their initial form, and sites like Amazon and Ebay refuse to process credit cards or ship to addresses that are not listed on PayPal's master list, and PayPal is not supported here either, so that is all I could and can get on my own even to this day, but then, why do I have to explain myself to you? What does my "collection" have to do with anything, you pathetic soul?

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Also, anyone even slightly familiar with it would know that there is no Angband "series" - it's a Rogue-like, or part of a Rogue series (though that's a misnomer, seeing as how there was no consistent commercial entity that made all of those variations). Just a little more free education for you, chief.

First of all, it's not my problem you can't understand the concept of metaphor. Second, I perfectly don't give a fuck about how many Angband games there are for this site is not called angbandfans.com.

Do you have any arguments at all or you just take pleasure in pointless bickering?

You guys are a sad bunch. When out of arguments, just blame it on WoW and call me a WoW fan. Somehow, all problems in this universe exist because of WoW, right? It is controlling everyone's mind and you fellows were able to break through and only you see the ultimate and divine truth beyond the lies that are WoW, correct?

I did say plenty that is relevant to the topic, and why I believe that randomization in D3 will truly make a difference this time, by changing the gameplay experience and making outside areas truly and functionaly different each time you play, even if at the expense of not staying true to the Angband series, since that's obviously the catch here. Just as this poor fellow here who blindly believes in people who made Diablo I, and if they're gone, no matter what happens, it's not a true sequel. How about considering the facts and getting your nose out of your ass? No one is making a Diablo / WoW mix...... It's only so convinient to pull off that stupidity because many frustrated people on this site seem to sympathize too easily with arguments based on 'Diablo is going to be like WoW unless my favorite *insert something irrelevant* is changed in the sequel'. You call my argument demagogic and acuse me of not being able to see past the brand name? What leaves me this other than to conclude that most WoW-haters are complete, utter retards. Sorry if I am using the word too generously, I just see no other way to describe what I'm witnessing.

Finally, since you explained to me that this site is after all the place where people gather to bash Diablo 3 (sometimes Diablo I as well), then I can understand your presence here, but not justify it. If you really hate everything about D3 as much as you keep saying, then why keep on going here? To spread the hatred? Ease your pain? If the latter, you have to remember one thing: no matter how much you insult Blizzard and their latest games, it does not make the WoW fee go away. One day you three will grow up and understand that. Until then, let the hatred continue... If my ability for independent thought frightens you so much, then by all means keep attacking me if that makes you feel more secure.

You assume too much.

The bad part is that your assumptions are off in every instance. 'You' is two people in this thread. One is a proven retard, and you are somewhat holding up. 'We' is people who come to this site to praise Diablo 3. You came to say that everything about it is shit, and that it's turning into an MMO which are by definition considered shit, by 'hardcore Diablo players'. And neither of that is true - it's just your subjective stance which is for the most part void of reality.

- They are not taking away the randomization - they are expanding on it.

- No one is 'concerned about creating content for future subscription games' except people in your rich imagination.

- They are not shifting from the core concepts, they are returning to them, after Diablo 2 strayed away. My points of thought are laid out here.

- I am not from Australia nor I worship any brand name. If I speak of Warcraft, I make it clear, I don't allow you to assume it.

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MMOs usually involve hundreds of players. ever reach top level in an MMO? it requires a lot of communication with other players, a lot of deal making, and constant bickering.

Not hundreds, thousands. In essence, D3 outdoor areas are going to be functionally randomized to a greater extent than D2. As I said in another thread, D2 merely moved rocks and bushes around, and it made no impact on the gameplay experience. D3 is going to shuffle parts of the terrain to replace them with different things, such as obstacles, blocked passages, and will require you to solve a puzzle or a quest. That kind of subtle terrain randomization is much more functional and dynamic than misplacing rocks and bushes around, and truly makes for a different experience each time you play.

Remember, in MMOs, not only that terrain is fixed and never changes - the groups of monsters and their spawn locations are 100% fixed - in D3 monsters will spawn randomly, and sometimes different mini-bosses and events will take place, random quests, and as mentioned, random changes in parts of the terrain.

I would now consider apologizing to you but since you said I was an idiot, I guess we're even. I still don't like you though.

Do what you want but stop trashing the series I love. If you hate Diablo 3, go somewhere else. Your 'Blizzard is a big bad company we should all hate' attitude is pissing me off to an extent that I can't even begin to describe.

I thought you would shut your hole but you just keep on going and making yourself look more retarded. Whatever.....

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This is my warning to Blizzard Entertainment....

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At first they should learn how to make a secure website before ruining Diablo franchise.

You just added a script to the link and made yourself look like a stupid fool that you are. Behold

Quote from "Felthuzad_The_Unclean" »

No offense and nothing personal, Saarth, but WoW fans with a weak grip on English aren't exactly rare and hard to find. I'll pass.

Well, considering that WoW players equal half the total population of the Australian continent, you can expect that at least some of them are not native English speakers.

Quote from "Kenzai" »

We dont want a heal skill on some class do we?

How about a spell that does massive damage to undead monsters but also heals if directed to a friendly player? That wouldn't be too bad?