I really want to play the Barb on launch so therefore I have been following closely any changes or improvements to his skills. But I have noticed a constant pattern with every patch since at least 13 that he has been nerfed in way or another every time. In this latest patch weapon throw nerfed 20 %, what are they afraid of? that he mite survive Inferno.....oh no! can't have that lets weaken him some more. Demon Hunter in patch 16 got a good buff in a lot of ways which is fine even tho I thought she was starting to hold her own any way. All I am saying is give the Barb a break, soon there will not be any decent skill to go with because he will be too balanced and no skill will be efficient enough in tougher area's......your views?
So you are saying lowering his damage on most of his skills in every patch is not nerfing? it is making the Barb weaker for final launch regardless whether this is Beta or not. How about making your favourite Hero so weak then it can not punch it's way out of a paper bag then you go and get a grip!
They wouldn't have changed it if they didn't have a reason, obviously the barbarian is smashing faces to easy in internal testing. Stop complaining it's called balancing.
... what are they afraid of? that he mite survive Inferno.....oh no! can't have that lets weaken him some more.
Do you have access to a beta version the rest of us do not? How can you possibly know what is working on anything past SK, let alone on a different difficulty?
Obviously, they felt it needed some tweaking based on their numbers from internal testing where they have many people playing at the higher difficulties, not from beta testers who can level all the way to 13 and in order to do that must repeat the same content over and over and over again.
All I am saying is give the Barb a break, soon there will not be any decent skill to go with because he will be too balanced and no skill will be efficient enough in tougher area's......
Too balanced?! I don't think it's possible for anything to be too balanced, they either are balanced or not balanced, no such thing as too balanced. But that aside, what are you using as the terms of your "balance"? Barb skills vs. Barb skills? Are you looking for one particular skill that does so much damage that we all feel compelled to use it? I hope not. Let them continue to tweak, I say. If they achieve their goals, we'll all use the skills that we find the most fun and tactically efficient for the situation.
Sometimes I wonder why Blizz even releases info like this. Perhaps Blizz enjoys watching people go all wacko with no rationale for their rants. Beta patch notes == Troll?
I really want to play the Barb on launch so therefore I have been following closely any changes or improvements to his skills. But I have noticed a constant pattern with every patch since at least 13 that he has been nerfed in way or another every time. In this latest patch weapon throw nerfed 20 %, what are they afraid of? that he mite survive Inferno.....oh no! can't have that lets weaken him some more. Demon Hunter in patch 16 got a good buff in a lot of ways which is fine even tho I thought she was starting to hold her own any way. All I am saying is give the Barb a break, soon there will not be any decent skill to go with because he will be too balanced and no skill will be efficient enough in tougher area's......your views?
Would you rather the game be released unbalanced, then after you make your class/build they do the nerfs? OR spend time before hand balancing now so there are very few, if any, balance changes needed once we start playing?
Well I think Solastus made the best comment and makes a lot of reasonable sense. I was just thinking what they did to the Amazon in D2 and now she is useless in the later acts of Hell unless she has help. Maybe Blizzard is making it more plausible, even a necessity to party play although they stated the solo play was possible. And I should not worry about crying when dying because who cares about dying in D3? it's easier to come back and you are not naked. I am not worried about one particular skill, that was just an example, but we will see how tough this game gets in release. Don't forget that Blizzard ramped up the difficulty because people moaned it was too easy in Beta in the first 1/3 of the first act with out thinking how later game play would be like........Blizzard must have had a good chuckle about that.......henceforth You will die!!
I'll make my own thread titled "Another overreaction to patch notes about something no one's had any experience with, yet they make it sound definitively as if they are the authority on the subject and are 100% sure it's a bad thing!!!"
Hmm little long. I'll substitute it with "Another whine thread with zero validity!!!"
Also WTF are you talking about? did you just really complain that the barb might be TOO balanced and therefore won't have one OP'd skill that everyone will take? Da fuks wrong with you.
Well I think Solastus made the best comment and makes a lot of reasonable sense. I was just thinking what they did to the Amazon in D2 and now she is useless in the later acts of Hell unless she has help. Maybe Blizzard is making it more plausible, even a necessity to party play although they stated the solo play was possible. And I should not worry about crying when dying because who cares about dying in D3? it's easier to come back and you are not naked. I am not worried about one particular skill, that was just an example, but we will see how tough this game gets in release. Don't forget that Blizzard ramped up the difficulty because people moaned it was too easy in Beta in the first 1/3 of the first act with out thinking how later game play would be like........Blizzard must have had a good chuckle about that.......henceforth You will die!!
Amazon was useless in D2?? What are you talking about? amazon was one of my favs
Well I think Solastus made the best comment and makes a lot of reasonable sense. I was just thinking what they did to the Amazon in D2 and now she is useless in the later acts of Hell unless she has help. Maybe Blizzard is making it more plausible, even a necessity to party play although they stated the solo play was possible. And I should not worry about crying when dying because who cares about dying in D3? it's easier to come back and you are not naked. I am not worried about one particular skill, that was just an example, but we will see how tough this game gets in release. Don't forget that Blizzard ramped up the difficulty because people moaned it was too easy in Beta in the first 1/3 of the first act with out thinking how later game play would be like........Blizzard must have had a good chuckle about that.......henceforth You will die!!
Amazon was useless in D2?? What are you talking about? amazon was one of my favs
Hahahaha thank you for making a post, I was about to on the same exact subject. I have cleared hell solo act5 with my old bowazon / javazon many times. They kicked so much ass it was almost OP
I'm going to cut that sentence short right there and make you look like a goofball. Oh no! God forbid we have... BALANCED CLASSES!
Do you have access to a beta version the rest of us do not? How can you possibly know what is working on anything past SK, let alone on a different difficulty?
Obviously, they felt it needed some tweaking based on their numbers from internal testing where they have many people playing at the higher difficulties, not from beta testers who can level all the way to 13 and in order to do that must repeat the same content over and over and over again.
Too balanced?! I don't think it's possible for anything to be too balanced, they either are balanced or not balanced, no such thing as too balanced. But that aside, what are you using as the terms of your "balance"? Barb skills vs. Barb skills? Are you looking for one particular skill that does so much damage that we all feel compelled to use it? I hope not. Let them continue to tweak, I say. If they achieve their goals, we'll all use the skills that we find the most fun and tactically efficient for the situation.
Sometimes I wonder why Blizz even releases info like this. Perhaps Blizz enjoys watching people go all wacko with no rationale for their rants. Beta patch notes == Troll?
Hahahahahahahah
fixed it for accuracy
for he to-day that sheds his blood with me
shall be my brother..."
Would you rather the game be released unbalanced, then after you make your class/build they do the nerfs? OR spend time before hand balancing now so there are very few, if any, balance changes needed once we start playing?
Common sense much?
I'll make my own thread titled "Another overreaction to patch notes about something no one's had any experience with, yet they make it sound definitively as if they are the authority on the subject and are 100% sure it's a bad thing!!!"
Hmm little long. I'll substitute it with "Another whine thread with zero validity!!!"
Also WTF are you talking about? did you just really complain that the barb might be TOO balanced and therefore won't have one OP'd skill that everyone will take? Da fuks wrong with you.
Amazon was useless in D2?? What are you talking about? amazon was one of my favs
Hahahaha thank you for making a post, I was about to on the same exact subject. I have cleared hell solo act5 with my old bowazon / javazon many times. They kicked so much ass it was almost OP
lmao I'm going to have to start using this more often in threads like this, instead of wasting time typing out stuff.