YOU'RE making huge illogical assumptions, because the D3 team never said they had an offline mode planned.
They said they had a working offline singleplayer. Look up the Blizz tracker at the end of 2010. This is not an assumption. The game engine is capable of it and it wouldn't be far fetched to bring it back quickly if they wanted. Which was my point. I know they're not going to do it, but that is beside the point.
YOU'RE making huge illogical assumptions, because the D3 team never said they had an offline mode planned.
They said they had a working offline singleplayer. Look up the Blizz tracker at the end of 2010. This is not an assumption. The game engine is capable of it and it wouldn't be far fetched to bring it back quickly if they wanted. Which was my point. I know they're not going to do it, but that is beside the point.
I don't feel like looking up stuff, so I'll take your word for it.
But if you know they're not going to change, then what IS the point? It sounds like complaining for the sake of complaining if you don't think it will change anything.
If speaking out doesn't change the company, it still has a better impact than remaining silent. I don't want all future games to apply this model and to kill offline, game freedom, and modding. So there's no way I'd shut up about it.
Was I referring to you??? No, right.
There are so many looser in this world, and if you think you're one of them, then, feel free to bitch & whine yourself out & make the fact much clearer for everyone else to see what a looser you really are.
(like assasins creed which still isnt cracked today)
Lol@that. Sadly, Blizzard is taking the only way to ensure their game cannot be pirated. Your idea doesn't work. At least, it doesn't prevent illegal copies for offline-play only. Skidrow and Razor will crack any games as long as the information is actually in the game, that's the reason why blizzard has designed diablo with a server/client architecture. The main, if not only, reason at least.
Was I referring to you??? No, right.
There are so many looser in this world, and if you think you're one of them, then, feel free to bitch & whine yourself out & make the fact much clearer for everyone else to see what a looser you really are.
If speaking out doesn't change the company, it still has a better impact than remaining silent. I don't want all future games to apply this model and to kill offline, game freedom, and modding. So there's no way I'd shut up about it.
I have no problem with you voicing your opinion but even this small poll puts you in a small minority. I just don't see how Blizzard could considering upping their sales by 5% at a cost of losing possibly that same percent, maybe less though it would be worth mentioning that games are pirated in the millions when possible.
Now I know it may also be worth noting that if people like the game they may go and purchase a legitimate copy but most businesses don't agree with this model. In the end your point is valid and accepted but I think no matter how vocal you are their business model likely doesn't see a great rise in sales because of it.
If speaking out doesn't change the company, it still has a better impact than remaining silent. I don't want all future games to apply this model and to kill offline, game freedom, and modding. So there's no way I'd shut up about it.
I have no problem with you voicing your opinion but even this small poll puts you in a small minority. I just don't see how Blizzard could considering upping their sales by 5% at a cost of losing possibly that same percent, maybe less though it would be worth mentioning that games are pirated in the millions when possible.
Now I know it may also be worth noting that if people like the game they may go and purchase a legitimate copy but most businesses don't agree with this model. In the end your point is valid and accepted but I think no matter how vocal you are their business model likely doesn't see a great rise in sales because of it.
I could care less about their sales, though. Good developpers promote their games and what their customers can do above their profit. But I'm not trying to get into that silly "but its a business" argument since the entire problem I have with this is based on the fact that they indeed ARE a business and act like most business. I mean, who cares if they lose a small percentage of profit at worse for making all their customers happy? But apparently, its insane to think companies care about you. They only care about profit. And that is assuming it would cause a loss.
Also, I really don't think the percentage of people is as low as a fan forum where people just love Blizzard would dictate. Thats just the nature of those forums.
I could care less about their sales, though. Good developpers promote their games and what their customers can do above their profit. But I'm not trying to get into that silly "but its a business" argument since the entire problem I have with this is based on the fact that they indeed ARE a business and act like most business. I mean, who cares if they lose a small percentage of profit at worse for making all their customers happy? But apparently, its insane to think companies care about you. They only care about profit. And that is assuming it would cause a loss.
Also, I really don't think the percentage of people is as low as a fan forum where people just love Blizzard would dictate. Thats just the nature of those forums.
I never said the company cared about me, but I guess my point is that you're saying they don't care to add features "I" want. This irks me because what you mean to say is feature "you" want. That is my whole point, the fans are fine. We don't feel trampled on, we are accepting of the changes more or less. We may not even see any of these "sacrifices" you speak of.
This is a different time then 2000. Now you can play games without even having a game system thanks to services like Onlive and I believe Gamefly is also about to start streaming games. This is the way the market is going and it is going that way because for the vast majority people understand and accept the change. "I" am fine with it. "I" look forward to it, because it doesn't negatively effect "me" or my friends.
You talk as if we're all being trampled on, as if we're losing a massive services and features. For the most part I've not heard anyone really say that, just that people aren't happy on the principle of the matter. Things change and I have never understood nor been able to relate to your point of view. So I do ask that you stop saying that it is hurting the generic you.
It isn't or hasn't which if it di would have made pushed changes out. If enough people were in an uproar about this then we would see changes, but there is a reason it is called a vocal minority. It is a small sub-group who feels that they're larger then they realistically are.
Just stop with the "we're being trampled on" and "we have to lose so much" etc. etc. I'm so tired of those generic arguments which act like they have a large supporting base to them.
If you don't notice the impact it has on people that don't have offline, if you failed to notice the killing of mods and cheats, if you failed to notice the removal of freedom, then I have nothing to say to you.
SFJake, offline gaming IS a dying genre. Millions off people play online games now a days. A company has the right to protect THEIR property in any way they feel is fit, as long as they don't harm their customers. If you are so unhappy, GTFO and care about a game that you will buy.
If you don't notice the impact it has on people that don't have offline, if you failed to notice the killing of mods and cheats, if you failed to notice the removal of freedom, then I have nothing to say to you.
Freedom? Seriously? Who are you, William Wallace??
It's a video game. You aren't losing any "freedoms". You simply have the privilege to play Blizzards game, if you so choose. And, despite all your belly aching, you'll probably log in more hours then most people once the game has gone gold.
I voted for the negative feelings since I am really into playing mods and this kills this mode for me. There has been other things that has been discussed that also has me worried about the game with further restrictions in the amount of skills and the Real money auction house.
I will still wait and see on whether I will buy the game but it looks more and more likely I pass on the game. I will likely stick with D2 mods and depending on how Torchlight 2 is I may go there instead.
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Man some people are ridiculous, i am STILL hearing the complaints about no mods/ offline only/ RMAH.
no mods and offline only go hand in hand. To make mods, someone would need the architecture of the game to change things around. And to play offline your computer would have to have every diablo 3 file. This leads to immediate hacking, duping, and scamming. with a real money auction house this HAS to be forbidden, because while before the aforementioned hacking and duping was annoying, now its a way to make money illegally, posing real legal threats to blizzard.
Now I'm sure your question is, well why the eff do we even NEED a RMAH? Because unless you want diablo to go the way of WoW with almost every item soulbound / BoA, and you want to lose the fun of your friend finding that awesome sword and letting you have it, you need the RMAH. Without it, all those 3rd party websites will pop up, and people will STILL be able to buy and sell the items, but its unsecured, and shadey, and when you spend that 200$ on those items, and they don't deliver, you are screwed, blizz won't, and can't step in to help. Its a lesser of two evils, and I would rather have blizz oversee player to player transactions.
For making mods you do not need to have full access to all files if Blizzard decided to offer an editor and allowed mods to be available on Battle-net. Blizzard could still limit and control what mods are available and also protect themselves by stating that the mod is not from Blizzard and use at own risk.
Please do not insult me in the future.
I am justing stating my opinion. It may not agree with yours but that is fine. I love to play mods since they quite often bring more to the game for me after I am done with the game. I do respect your opinion and others here
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On Strike and supporting Fallout 4 Mod Makers
Some fallout 4 mod makers have had their mods stolen and uploaded and downloaded on Bethesda's site for the Xbox One.
For making mods you do not need to have full access to all files if Blizzard decided to offer an editor and allowed mods to be available on Battle-net. Blizzard could still limit and control what mods are available and also protect themselves by stating that the mod is not from Blizzard and use at own risk.
Please do not insult me in the future.
I am justing stating my opinion. It may not agree with yours but that is fine. I love to play mods since they quite often bring more to the game for me after I am done with the game. I do respect your opinion and others here
Please re-read Snaks42's post. You didn't get it at all. With real legal implications of a RMAH you can't have mods. End of story. move along.
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I don't feel like looking up stuff, so I'll take your word for it.
But if you know they're not going to change, then what IS the point? It sounds like complaining for the sake of complaining if you don't think it will change anything.
Was I referring to you??? No, right.
There are so many looser in this world, and if you think you're one of them, then, feel free to bitch & whine yourself out & make the fact much clearer for everyone else to see what a looser you really are.
My PvP build would be different from these 13.
Check out the leaked Demon Hunter skill list here from Blizzard China: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://tiny.cc/10p16
Diablo III is $50; MSI GT683DXR-423US Gaming Laptop is $1,599; Playing Diablo III w/ my wife & 2 brothers is PRICELESS
Lol@that. Sadly, Blizzard is taking the only way to ensure their game cannot be pirated. Your idea doesn't work. At least, it doesn't prevent illegal copies for offline-play only. Skidrow and Razor will crack any games as long as the information is actually in the game, that's the reason why blizzard has designed diablo with a server/client architecture. The main, if not only, reason at least.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=looser
roflmao
I have no problem with you voicing your opinion but even this small poll puts you in a small minority. I just don't see how Blizzard could considering upping their sales by 5% at a cost of losing possibly that same percent, maybe less though it would be worth mentioning that games are pirated in the millions when possible.
Now I know it may also be worth noting that if people like the game they may go and purchase a legitimate copy but most businesses don't agree with this model. In the end your point is valid and accepted but I think no matter how vocal you are their business model likely doesn't see a great rise in sales because of it.
Also, I really don't think the percentage of people is as low as a fan forum where people just love Blizzard would dictate. Thats just the nature of those forums.
I never said the company cared about me, but I guess my point is that you're saying they don't care to add features "I" want. This irks me because what you mean to say is feature "you" want. That is my whole point, the fans are fine. We don't feel trampled on, we are accepting of the changes more or less. We may not even see any of these "sacrifices" you speak of.
This is a different time then 2000. Now you can play games without even having a game system thanks to services like Onlive and I believe Gamefly is also about to start streaming games. This is the way the market is going and it is going that way because for the vast majority people understand and accept the change. "I" am fine with it. "I" look forward to it, because it doesn't negatively effect "me" or my friends.
You talk as if we're all being trampled on, as if we're losing a massive services and features. For the most part I've not heard anyone really say that, just that people aren't happy on the principle of the matter. Things change and I have never understood nor been able to relate to your point of view. So I do ask that you stop saying that it is hurting the generic you.
It isn't or hasn't which if it di would have made pushed changes out. If enough people were in an uproar about this then we would see changes, but there is a reason it is called a vocal minority. It is a small sub-group who feels that they're larger then they realistically are.
Just stop with the "we're being trampled on" and "we have to lose so much" etc. etc. I'm so tired of those generic arguments which act like they have a large supporting base to them.
Freedom? Seriously? Who are you, William Wallace??
It's a video game. You aren't losing any "freedoms". You simply have the privilege to play Blizzards game, if you so choose. And, despite all your belly aching, you'll probably log in more hours then most people once the game has gone gold.
Dunno if I agree with the 'best change ever' thing, but it definately isn't the Earth Shattering Catastrophe some are making it out to be...
They're robbing us of our freedom!
I will still wait and see on whether I will buy the game but it looks more and more likely I pass on the game. I will likely stick with D2 mods and depending on how Torchlight 2 is I may go there instead.
no mods and offline only go hand in hand. To make mods, someone would need the architecture of the game to change things around. And to play offline your computer would have to have every diablo 3 file. This leads to immediate hacking, duping, and scamming. with a real money auction house this HAS to be forbidden, because while before the aforementioned hacking and duping was annoying, now its a way to make money illegally, posing real legal threats to blizzard.
Now I'm sure your question is, well why the eff do we even NEED a RMAH? Because unless you want diablo to go the way of WoW with almost every item soulbound / BoA, and you want to lose the fun of your friend finding that awesome sword and letting you have it, you need the RMAH. Without it, all those 3rd party websites will pop up, and people will STILL be able to buy and sell the items, but its unsecured, and shadey, and when you spend that 200$ on those items, and they don't deliver, you are screwed, blizz won't, and can't step in to help. Its a lesser of two evils, and I would rather have blizz oversee player to player transactions.
Please do not insult me in the future.
I am justing stating my opinion. It may not agree with yours but that is fine. I love to play mods since they quite often bring more to the game for me after I am done with the game. I do respect your opinion and others here
Please re-read Snaks42's post. You didn't get it at all. With real legal implications of a RMAH you can't have mods. End of story. move along.