Nope. Not saying he's better at all. Just saying people need to calm down and wait to play the game or for more to be released before getting crazy over this stuff.
You probably wont see to many people doing that anytime soon.
Why cant everyone just be excited about D3 coming out:(?
While I have to agree that people are overreacting (however passionate they may well be about Diablo III) he could have spoken with more tact, he seemed to be throwing a tantrum just as large as some of the people complaining about the art direction.I think that everyone needs to simmer down a little and reevaluate the situation, I don't think a reaction this big on either side was warranted.
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While I have to agree that people are overreacting (however passionate they may well be about Diablo III) he could have spoken with more tact...
That's the point of that part of the site though, it's where he talks about things that bother him. If he spoke with tact it'd just be a dull boring interview. It's just his opinion after all.
I've just watched the video, ROFL LMAO... it's funny because it's true
I think that all the commotion going on about the graphics can easily be explained by Newton's Third Law of Motion:
Whenever a particle A exerts a force on another particle B, B simultaneously exerts a force on A with the same magnitude in the opposite direction. The strong form of the law further postulates that these two forces act along the same line. This law is often simplified into the sentence "Every action has an equal and opposite reaction."
Diablo III is just too awesome, you need a couple of whiners to balance the whole thing.
It bothers me that some of you claim that people who're not against the art direction for Diablo 3 didn't love the art in the previous games enough. The Diablo games are my favorite games of all time. And art is what I do for a living, so I care about the art. I loved the mood of the previous games, but I also really like the look of Diablo 3. I really don't think the change from Diablo 2 to Diablo 3 is as big as you claim it is. It has changed a little bit. And the developers have done their best to explain why they've made those changes. The reasons were good. They even tried a grittier and more gray atmosphere, which didn't work very well.
They're making some changes to be able to make the best Diablo 3 they can make. If you don't support that, then I say you're the ones who don't love the Diablo games enough.
....Classic, a naive kid swallowing anything Blizzard pukes. Ugh, and a complete straw man to top it off.
Aha, you're calling ME naive? Classic hypocrisy.... grow up.
People are claiming the whole game is going to be terrible, based on the visual effects on a pre alpha game with ONE act finished, played for 20 minutes in one small area that has been purpose built for the gameplay video that is not actually going to be in the game anyway.
I'm disappointed in Adam...
....Perfectly legit opinion.... made by someone who seems to have some sense....
WTF... this isn't even an Opinion, it's simply how he feels towards some trivial online TV person. Not only is your comment incorrect/invalid, it's again a sign of hypocrisy... suddenly it's only a legitimate opinion if you agree with people complaining at the graphics... What I said, which is apparently "naive" is an actual opinion, but apparently the only opinions that matter are ones that agree with you. Pull your head out of your arse.
Maybe you should get a dictionary, look up opinion, hypocrite, bias, hyperbole, and ignorance...
But then you won't, you'll probably "defeat me with your superior logic".... also known as personal attacks to the average useless, internet forum troll.
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"If we're actually making the game worse with no other reason than to be different from WoW, then it's a bad choice." - Jay Wilson (D3 lead designer)
Looking at the previous two posts, perhaps it would be better if this thread would just be locked. I think if people can't have a discussion without resorting to swearing and name calling, they don't deserve talking about it. Just my two cents.
Umm, except 95% of this site is pure spam and garbage. If you start deleting the people and spam, there would be about 2 or 3 people left on probably 2 or 3 threads...
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Anyway, looking back now I remember when Diablo 2 came out I was thinking "man, this is way too light. What happened to the darkness of Diablo 1". And it bugged me for a long time, even though I really loved the game. But after some time, I began to appreciate the new art style, and see it as two seperate games: one dark, tactical and sometimes a pain in the ass, and the other a bit lighter, total killfest but less annoying at times.
I'm sure this change in the artstyle is not nescesarily bad. Not to say it's nescesarily good, either. But it's different. Probably will fit more with Diablo 3. It's a different game, after all.
Diablo three is going to be dark in it's own ways. Most people here just don't understand that these things like a rainbow or whatnot is natural...
It's true what he said about Windwaker also. I thought it was going to be utter crap because of the way it looked. The game was pretty awesome though, one of the top Zelda games for me.
I was outraged and hated the game, then I played it at a friends house and I realized that the gameplay more than made up for the graphics. Despite how it looked, it was still fun to play.
To add to the Zelda point. I thought Windwaker was going to suck because I wanted Twilight Princess, in terms of graphics, and ended up getting this funky cell shaded abnormality.
Just like you I started to play the game and it turned out to be a lot of fun, but more to the point is that after playing for a short amount of time not only did the graphics grow on me but I decided that it fit the game very well despite the change from OoT to WW.
Yea, some people should eventually just learn to ignore ol' mister Doppel on any artistic opinion.
GRR SOOOO BAADD ADAM GRR! MY NARROW OPINION > IMPORTANT AND HUGE GAME COMPANY WITH A BETTER IDEA OF HOW TO CREATE GOOD GAMES AND LIKELY POINTING TO AN AWESOME CHANGE TO SUPERIOR GRAPHICS.
Really I've heard it all before so I don't really feel like reading it again... I just made an assumption of what he's said thus far, translated into CRUISE CONTROL. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if he turns out to be a trollin' troll.
Basically, in the end, it's okay to complain about the game, but you cant go around insulting blizzard and claimining the game will suck just because it is different from Diablo 2. Diablo 2 was different from Diablo 1, not to mention the makers of Diablo 3 ARE NOT the makers of Diablo 1 and 2, so you should expect something different. Also, as someone said before, compared to today's standards, D1 and D2 are hideous. They arent just trying to make us ol' Diablo fans happy with Diablo 2.5, they want to get new people into the game. Besides, the game will be successful for sure, look how many people went and re-bought the Diablo 2 and expansion set right after the announcement.
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"And the Evil that was once vanquished shall rise anew! Wrapped in the guise of man shall he walk amongst the innocent, and terror shall consume they that dwell upon the earth! The sky shall rain fire, and the seas will become as blood! The righteous shall fall before the wicked, and the lord of creation shall tremble before the burning standards of Hell!"
-Mephisto
Yea, except your post was, what, the third in this thread? Good job at trolling jackass.
"How he feels towards...." is an opinion genius. By the by, where the fuck did you read "disagreeing with people that complain not being legit"? I never said anything like that. Your ignorance is ironic btw seeing that Eldius doesn't even agree with whoever dislikes the new art design, Murderface just "assumed" he did because Eldius thought the G4TV retard to be dissapointing. So, get a clue before you attempt at arguing with me about whats what, kays.
Oh, and about what you said being naive, duh. "We tried it and it didn't work" isn't proof of fucking anything, so you buying into that is brainfartingly naive. Deal with it.
Hahaha, sure. By now.
Hahaha... aww diddims... did mummy not warm your milk and tuck you in last night?
Apart from the fact your first point makes no sense and has no relevance... And the fact that your next point is completely incorrect... Your still the naive, ignorant and ironic one....
Here let me do the work for you seeing as you'd rather blindly assume you know better (the call mark of a forum troll) than actually find out the answer...
An opinion is a person's ideas and thoughts towards something. It is an assessment, judgment or evaluation of something. An opinion is not a fact, because opinions are either not falsifiable, or the opinion has not been proven or verified.
Being "disappointed" in someone is NOT an opinion. If he had stated "I am disappointed in mr X because of Y,Z. I think the lack of change in art direction will therefore bring down Diablo 3." that's more of an opinion...
I wanted it darker/grittier at first. I initially signed the petition... however I eventually started seeing a pattern and put all the pictures together... and noticed how stupid they all looked. There was no variation, if the entire world looked like that I would have disliked the game. So I changed my stance. Then the art director came out with the exact same thinking, saying the art direction wouldn't change, and that they had tried it all like the photo shopped pictures and that it all looked exactly the same and dull/boring. Then he even went further to get all the photo shopped pics and point out why it wouldn't work.
I agreed with what he was saying, I had made up my mind BEFORE he said it, and I am un-biased as I have been on both sides... and I STILL want there to be darker grittier areas. This does not make me Naive... don't make me go find definitions of words to keep shooting you down, you're only looking more foolish.
You really should do as I suggested and get a dictionary, because YOU are naive and stuck in your bias ways... not me.
Here is your logic in thinking "If you disagree about the art direction, you have a valid opinion, if you agree with the art direction, you are a naive child blindly following whatever Blizzard says."
You're ignorant.
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"If we're actually making the game worse with no other reason than to be different from WoW, then it's a bad choice." - Jay Wilson (D3 lead designer)
You probably wont see to many people doing that anytime soon.
Why cant everyone just be excited about D3 coming out:(?
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Wise ElderThat's the point of that part of the site though, it's where he talks about things that bother him. If he spoke with tact it'd just be a dull boring interview. It's just his opinion after all.
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You get a new title bar at 100 posts I think.
But yeah that's the point of that segment is for him to discuss what he doesn't like in the gaming world.
I think that all the commotion going on about the graphics can easily be explained by Newton's Third Law of Motion:
Diablo III is just too awesome, you need a couple of whiners to balance the whole thing.
They're making some changes to be able to make the best Diablo 3 they can make. If you don't support that, then I say you're the ones who don't love the Diablo games enough.
Aha, you're calling ME naive? Classic hypocrisy.... grow up.
People are claiming the whole game is going to be terrible, based on the visual effects on a pre alpha game with ONE act finished, played for 20 minutes in one small area that has been purpose built for the gameplay video that is not actually going to be in the game anyway.
WTF... this isn't even an Opinion, it's simply how he feels towards some trivial online TV person. Not only is your comment incorrect/invalid, it's again a sign of hypocrisy... suddenly it's only a legitimate opinion if you agree with people complaining at the graphics... What I said, which is apparently "naive" is an actual opinion, but apparently the only opinions that matter are ones that agree with you. Pull your head out of your arse.
Maybe you should get a dictionary, look up opinion, hypocrite, bias, hyperbole, and ignorance...
But then you won't, you'll probably "defeat me with your superior logic".... also known as personal attacks to the average useless, internet forum troll.
Umm, except 95% of this site is pure spam and garbage. If you start deleting the people and spam, there would be about 2 or 3 people left on probably 2 or 3 threads...
Diablo three is going to be dark in it's own ways. Most people here just don't understand that these things like a rainbow or whatnot is natural...
Then again, nature is evil. *Eye roll.*
Just like you I started to play the game and it turned out to be a lot of fun, but more to the point is that after playing for a short amount of time not only did the graphics grow on me but I decided that it fit the game very well despite the change from OoT to WW.
GRR SOOOO BAADD ADAM GRR! MY NARROW OPINION > IMPORTANT AND HUGE GAME COMPANY WITH A BETTER IDEA OF HOW TO CREATE GOOD GAMES AND LIKELY POINTING TO AN AWESOME CHANGE TO SUPERIOR GRAPHICS.
Really I've heard it all before so I don't really feel like reading it again... I just made an assumption of what he's said thus far, translated into CRUISE CONTROL. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if he turns out to be a trollin' troll.
Over confidence is the rot.
Hurt? I was just taking a swing at what he was disappointed in...
You couldn't come up with a reason why I was wrong, so you just shit on my post? Classy...
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
-Mephisto
Hahaha... aww diddims... did mummy not warm your milk and tuck you in last night?
Apart from the fact your first point makes no sense and has no relevance... And the fact that your next point is completely incorrect... Your still the naive, ignorant and ironic one....
Here let me do the work for you seeing as you'd rather blindly assume you know better (the call mark of a forum troll) than actually find out the answer...
Being "disappointed" in someone is NOT an opinion. If he had stated "I am disappointed in mr X because of Y,Z. I think the lack of change in art direction will therefore bring down Diablo 3." that's more of an opinion...
I wanted it darker/grittier at first. I initially signed the petition... however I eventually started seeing a pattern and put all the pictures together... and noticed how stupid they all looked. There was no variation, if the entire world looked like that I would have disliked the game. So I changed my stance. Then the art director came out with the exact same thinking, saying the art direction wouldn't change, and that they had tried it all like the photo shopped pictures and that it all looked exactly the same and dull/boring. Then he even went further to get all the photo shopped pics and point out why it wouldn't work.
I agreed with what he was saying, I had made up my mind BEFORE he said it, and I am un-biased as I have been on both sides... and I STILL want there to be darker grittier areas. This does not make me Naive... don't make me go find definitions of words to keep shooting you down, you're only looking more foolish.
You really should do as I suggested and get a dictionary, because YOU are naive and stuck in your bias ways... not me.
Here is your logic in thinking "If you disagree about the art direction, you have a valid opinion, if you agree with the art direction, you are a naive child blindly following whatever Blizzard says."
You're ignorant.