Why not add a minute on countdown on auctions when someone bids.?
So there actually can be a "bidwar" in the end and not just a STUPID last second snatch..
There are bid wars. People bid on the highest value they would pay for the item, and if it gets snatched, the people who lost wouldn't pay higher than that anyways, and the person who got the item probably paid a decent amount.
What you may be talking about is someone throwing a very small value in there (like 2k-5k bids on items that are clearly worth 50-100k), and losing to someone bidding near the end, or someone losing in a bidding war when the timer is getting close to 0 - usually because he uses the "automatic bid value" that the AH gives to him, which is the lowest possible bidding amount after the currently winning bid.
To win "bid wars", you have to be prepared to put, at the last minute, the highest price you would be willing to pay for the item.
An increased timer would imho only cause people to end up paying a lot more than the item is actually worth (I've seen these a couple times already, people getting trigger happy on bid wars and end up paying more than the lowest buyouts there), I have already done this a couple times already because I desperately wanted the item. Wouldn't like such feature.
This shouldn't be an issue because of the max bid function. If you are willing to pay 5million gold for an item, set that as your max bid. Then, if someone outbids you at the last second, you know that they spent more than your 5million gold on the item. If you aren't setting your max bid as the max amount you are willing to pay, then you're doing it wrong and, frankly, deserve to have an item snatched from you at the last moment.
If you aren't willing to use the max bid function, then you have no cause for complaint. If you truly want a "bid war," then auction items off in trade chat.
This shouldn't be an issue because of the max bid function. If you are willing to pay 5million gold for an item, set that as your max bid.
The problem is people adding the minimum amount necessary to surpass you at the very last second. And usually you have more than enough to outbid them then. I've won many an auction by paying close attention to it at that "<1 min" mark. The typical scenario would be:
1. I'm winning at 100k bid.
2. "<1 min" hits and I'm outbid at 101k.
3. I rapidly outbid them with 110k.
4. I win the auction.
Last-minute bidders are typically just trying to sneak their way into a lower price by not bidding until no one else is fast enough to outbid them.
So I'm all for a delay timer of, say, some 5 minutes after a bid. Auctions are auctions, the highest bidder should be the one to win, not the sneakiest.
If you change your bid amount, it auto-bids the next highest minimum bid until you hit the amount necessary or it exceeds your amount.
Imaginary scenario
Amulet of Awesome
Bid 20k
You like it and figure it's worth 200k
When you hit the bid, change the bid amount to 200k. It only bids like 22k or whatever the min is. Then, when some chump puts in 25k at the last second, the system auto bids you to 28k to beat his. If he puts in 180k, the system autobids you to 185 or w/e. If he puts in 250k, you lost.
Edit:
The system will always only bid the minimum to win up to the max you put in. It's like a silent auction but it's nice enough to not eat the entire amount you bid unless it takes that much to win.
Auction sniping helps generate interest in bidding auctions. People generally will put in more bids if they think they can get something below their valuation. The one in charge is the seller, if they simply set bid=buyout this won't happen. If bid < buyout, the seller expects bidding the generate the amount he wants and this is helped by sniping.
This shouldn't be an issue because of the max bid function. If you are willing to pay 5million gold for an item, set that as your max bid.
The problem is people adding the minimum amount necessary to surpass you at the very last second. And usually you have more than enough to outbid them then. I've won many an auction by paying close attention to it at that "<1 min" mark. The typical scenario would be:
1. I'm winning at 100k bid.
2. "<1 min" hits and I'm outbid at 101k.
3. I rapidly outbid them with 110k.
4. I win the auction.
Last-minute bidders are typically just trying to sneak their way into a lower price by not bidding until no one else is fast enough to outbid them.
So I'm all for a delay timer of, say, some 5 minutes after a bid. Auctions are auctions, the highest bidder should be the one to win, not the sneakiest.
What are you talking about? Even if the person is sneaky, they are still the highest bidder, contradicting what you just said.
You can always bid more than just the minimum required to overbid actual bid. In fact, most of the bids in the last few seconds bid a lot more than just minimum bid.
^^^
OP, should eBay work that way as well? Seems to be doing fine. You put in your max bid, not the next increment.
This shouldn't be an issue because of the max bid function. If you are willing to pay 5million gold for an item, set that as your max bid.
The problem is people adding the minimum amount necessary to surpass you at the very last second. And usually you have more than enough to outbid them then. I've won many an auction by paying close attention to it at that "<1 min" mark. The typical scenario would be:
1. I'm winning at 100k bid.
2. "<1 min" hits and I'm outbid at 101k.
3. I rapidly outbid them with 110k.
4. I win the auction.
Last-minute bidders are typically just trying to sneak their way into a lower price by not bidding until no one else is fast enough to outbid them.
So I'm all for a delay timer of, say, some 5 minutes after a bid. Auctions are auctions, the highest bidder should be the one to win, not the sneakiest.
What are you talking about? Even if the person is sneaky, they are still the highest bidder, contradicting what you just said.
My point is that "the sneakiest" wins... WE dont have a chance to "outbid" a last sec Bid since Auction is closed..
Lets face it... NOONE is gonna Bid 50M on something that atm is at 15M EVEN if its worth it.. PPL will try to get it as cheap as they can. With an "add a a min or 2" for each bid, we'll get a fair "bidwar"
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So there actually can be a "bidwar" in the end and not just a STUPID last second snatch..
Gora
What you may be talking about is someone throwing a very small value in there (like 2k-5k bids on items that are clearly worth 50-100k), and losing to someone bidding near the end, or someone losing in a bidding war when the timer is getting close to 0 - usually because he uses the "automatic bid value" that the AH gives to him, which is the lowest possible bidding amount after the currently winning bid.
To win "bid wars", you have to be prepared to put, at the last minute, the highest price you would be willing to pay for the item.
An increased timer would imho only cause people to end up paying a lot more than the item is actually worth (I've seen these a couple times already, people getting trigger happy on bid wars and end up paying more than the lowest buyouts there), I have already done this a couple times already because I desperately wanted the item. Wouldn't like such feature.
0.o
If you aren't willing to use the max bid function, then you have no cause for complaint. If you truly want a "bid war," then auction items off in trade chat.
1. I'm winning at 100k bid.
2. "<1 min" hits and I'm outbid at 101k.
3. I rapidly outbid them with 110k.
4. I win the auction.
Last-minute bidders are typically just trying to sneak their way into a lower price by not bidding until no one else is fast enough to outbid them.
So I'm all for a delay timer of, say, some 5 minutes after a bid. Auctions are auctions, the highest bidder should be the one to win, not the sneakiest.
Imaginary scenario
Amulet of Awesome
Bid 20k
You like it and figure it's worth 200k
When you hit the bid, change the bid amount to 200k. It only bids like 22k or whatever the min is. Then, when some chump puts in 25k at the last second, the system auto bids you to 28k to beat his. If he puts in 180k, the system autobids you to 185 or w/e. If he puts in 250k, you lost.
Edit:
The system will always only bid the minimum to win up to the max you put in. It's like a silent auction but it's nice enough to not eat the entire amount you bid unless it takes that much to win.
What are you talking about? Even if the person is sneaky, they are still the highest bidder, contradicting what you just said.
^^^
OP, should eBay work that way as well? Seems to be doing fine. You put in your max bid, not the next increment.
My point is that "the sneakiest" wins... WE dont have a chance to "outbid" a last sec Bid since Auction is closed..
Lets face it... NOONE is gonna Bid 50M on something that atm is at 15M EVEN if its worth it.. PPL will try to get it as cheap as they can. With an "add a a min or 2" for each bid, we'll get a fair "bidwar"