People play games to have fun and for the most people will play many different games. Some people will come back to older games and some never do.
There are still people playing commodore 64 games on the commodore 64. I say lucky sob's I wish my commodore 64 was still working so I could play some of the old classics there.
Blizzard made their money on Diablo 3 since it sold extremely well since it is one of the highest selling games on the PC. I do not know how it did on the consoles since I do not have one at the moment. But likely it did extremely well as well.
first off diablo is dying way faster then wow, to the previous comment. it may never completely die but at the rate its going i personally doubt they will make another expansion. look at twitch.tv, all of the big streamers quit because of all the bs. notice how gabynator, rank 1 right? ya well he cheated like over 300 paragon levels and im sure other exploits as well, hes known for that. seeing as people that are rank 1 cheater to get there says a lot, i doubt people that wanna compete will keep playing this game. it may not be a majority, but its still a real lot of people.
and yes blizzard did make money, but so did many other games that have failed miserbly..that doesnt mean anything. the game sold well because diablo 2 was a great game and people wanted to relive that experience, they even gave it a second chance for ros. do you think people will really give it a third chance? and a forth chance? and a fifth chance? exploit after exploit, them not banning anyone for cheating, hell there might as well be white rings and duped items because it wouldnt change the game at all at the moment.
Yeah thats for august, there has been so many bugs, exploits, cheats that many people have quit in the last two monthes..more then you might think. archeage is probably higher then diablo at this point. not to mention there is not to many games that are actually real good games right now in my opinion. notice how minecraft is right below diablo? there is a reason for that. games come and go, right now there is not to many. even so, id love to see a chart for this month seeing top games because id love to see how much its dropped. Kappa.
D3 in general just isn't a game where you can perform outsandingly well constantly no matter how skilled you are, because the conditions are not the same for everyone. Of course there are situations where good players shine and bad players die. But the problem is that those situations do not occur equally often in every respective rift. I would love it if blizzard would rely less heavily on RNG, since in this game pretty much every aspect is RNG influenced. No rift is like the other. In fact they vary greatly which makes general assumptions about high GR and their associated skill lvl pretty much senseless.
The fact that you have to generate a lot of high GR Stones just to get that one rift that is ideal makes the supposedly competetive part of this game depend more on invested time than the occasional display of skill.
I generally disagree with the OP, he should stop whining like a little girl and think of the consequences of nerfing marauder, which would basically cause DH's to vanish from the leaderboards. There will always be a specc that outshines the others. DH is indeed able to deal damage without getting into as much danger as the other classes, but then again DH is by far the squishiest class and the games skill never revolved about doing damage, but surviving while doing so. In terms of survival DH's have the same problems as most other classes. Some affixes screw them over and a handful of mob types are a pita. Dealing damage in diablo 3 ( diablo in general) has never been hard. Every builds damage mechanics are absolutely braindead and can be executed to near perfection by a monkey. Not dying is hard.
TL.DR: Nerf X because it outshines Y = Grow up.
most classes die in 1 hit at gr 40 + so it doesnt really matter if they're squishy, if anything they have an advantage because of smoke screen and vault.
I am all for bashing, trash talking, trolling, flaming, what have you. But D3 is far FAR from dying. who gives a fuck about seasons. the only thing seasons is good for is starting over fresh and reliving the excitement of gearing your toon and and finding items. The leader boards are 100% useless unless you are in Hardcore.
Diablo 3 will be a game that will never die. no matter how many exploits are in the game.
even if it doesnt die, they are definitly losing a lot of their players from all of this crap. and less players means less revenue for fututre expansions and this one for new players and that leads to even poorer patches this this one. my who guild left to play archeage which i thoguht was funny. nobody wants exploits and to have no chance at making top 10 leaderboards, or top 25 or top 50. people still want to compete even if its not everyone, theres a big number of people that play solely to try to make it on the leaderboards. and thats gone now. so you cant even deny they didnt lose people to that, and im sure a lot of people quit after the exp eploit as well, the trial keys were just icing on the cake for a lot of people. and i doubt many people are gonna want to come back right after that meaning season 2 wont have as many players either, and if season 2 fails as bad as season 1 personally i think the leaderboards will just be something people laugh at and not even try to compete for. and that means less revenue for future patches which means worse patches.
Listen I am sure there was a drop off. All those people exploiting the 4 player trial Grifts looking to hit the lottery with an easy level and a spot in the top 10/20 whatever probably left or took a break until they can find an exploit next season. Then there is a huge community of players that either do different in game activities, or were never interested in abusing such mechanics. There are many who didn't touch seasons(just look at all the threads started right before the patch hit on whether or not people wanted to play seasons). There are many who just look to improve step by step, getting better gear, tweaking skills, improving team play, etc. I actually enjoy the new Grift trials, they go by quicker and are a lot more fun. I have a shot at getting on a Solo board, but my friends are mostly casuals who play the game for fun and aren't interested in squeezing every exploit to flex their epeen.
What it comes down to is fun. It is a video game, and meant to be enjoyed. You have quit multiple times so I am guessing you do not find it that fun. I actually enjoy the game, enjoy playing the actual game as coop and ARPGs are my favorite game genres. So if you aren't having fun then play something else, thats not a sarcastic snotty reply. I sincerely mean for you to go find a game you enjoy. I have an example from another game I gave up on.
Payday 2 - Loved the game. I had a group of 8 or 9 that I rotated team members with. We pushed the hardest jobs trying to find the smartest way through them all. Overkill decided to add all these changes to the game that I did not like/approve of. Changes that changed the very core of the missions, changes that I did not sign on for when I spent a lot of money to buy the game for many people. What did I do? Uninstalled. Quit. And left a post to the developers so they knew where they went wrong. And I won't be buying Payday3. There doesnt need to be multiple whine threads posted on FANSITES that accomplish very little.
And like others have stated. If you want to start threads stating you have all kinds of proof a game is dieing(these sites have heard plenty of that with WoW) then you should really for your own sake bring some actual proof. Just helping you out for your future drama threads. People will pick apart any argument that does not deliver hard factual proof.
edit - One last question. This is your breaking point? The trial rift change? Not the exploits people took to race to 70. Or the exploits to get ridiculous paragon levels. You are mad they changed the trial rifts mid season 1? If they had changed pylons mid season would that have angered you as much? I mean it means you couldn't get lucky and grab a top spot ... And yet you use the complaint that they are still there. Mucho confused
its impossible to get actual proof that defines the game is dead or dying. but seeing 36 people which is less then 10 groups doing greater rifts in public games says quite i bit i think. of course people are going to argue and say they dont play public but many people do. can i give an exact number. no, i think its up to you to decide if public games are a big part of this game. im just providing numbers that are actual real numbers as to how many people are doing greater rifts "which is supposed to be the biggest thing to do in this patch" even if public games dont mean a lot, i think it means a lot seeing as how there is over 40 times more players doing regualer rifts then greater rifts. "which once again, greater rifts is the whole point to this season".
and honestly i do like this game and it is for me, but i like competing, im a competitive player. and this making everyone do 5 extra waves of trials for the same keystone is a slap in the face to anyone who is competing. it seriously makes it near impossible to get top 10 now solo or multiplayer "and i will provide actual proof to that in a few weeks maybe a month or so"
OP's proof is that pugs dont like to to grifts, which is of course ignoring how many people are doing regular rifts, but you know, OP is a melodramatic crybaby.
yeah because regualar rifts are the whole point of the game right? you tell me then, what was the point in this patch if regualar rifts are being played more then greater rifts by over 40 x times the ammount of people? hmm...it wouldnt have anything to do with greater rifts being a complete joke right? and terrible mob density, and impossible to make it on the leaderboards right? regualar rifts are all thats left sadly, and im the crybaby? id say your just upset because greater rifts were a complete bust, and i forget to mention pylons and shrines that should have never made in the game in greater rifts.
funny thing is i wouldnt be suprised if they completly killed the leaderboards and remove those as well as messing up trials. good thing i dont play anymore. guess ill just wait till season 3 when the games not a complete joke and nothing but running regualar t 6 rifts just like its been for the past year now.
but hey, at least you can upgrade your gems and use them on t6 rifts which you dont even need them fr. correct e if im wrong..feel free.or better yet go ahead and insult me more if you feel you need to, im sure discovering that t 6 rifts are now the whole point in the game hurts after putting hundreds if not thousands of hours into your charcter.
By the way I'm seeing over 1000 playing t6 pubs in season, dead game amirite?
yes dead game, 1001 people is nothing, and at 5:30 there were 700, still not a lot. and that is the absolute mot popular thing in the game. ill do the math again fore you. 1000 people is 250 groups. if 75% of the groups are full..which im saying 75% because i guarentee half the games are open and not full, its not like people play for 5 minutes then leave and everyone does that. then thats 62 games OPEN...not many for prime time when there was way over 10 times that ammount maybe even 20 times that ammount at the start of t6. i remember seeing 10000 people not long ago..and this was AFTER the exp exploit. you can believe what you want, i understand you dont wanna believe your game is dying in certain ways.im just trying to privide my point of you not making you believe it.
I run with two different guilds. Both of which had nothing to do with public games. I joined a public game once ... to get the achievement. I have multiple t6 characters on both seasons and non seasons. But I guess because a huge portion of us never play public games we don't count as players to Cope? Pylons? really. Am i annoyed at the exploits and the non bans? sure. But the death of the game? You are delusional. Yes there will be more expansions. And if something else shiny doesn't come along before then to distract me I will buy it and play it happily. The game has come VERY far from the shit show that was vanilla and I played through all that, so if a few exploits bothered you go play PoE, Marvel Heroes or TL2. All very good ARPGS that would embrace your money.
you do count, but just because 1 or 2 people say that they didnt play public games doesnt mean that alot of people do and now cant really unless they wanna join the same game over and over again. i think says it all that there are a little overr 450 people playing rifts in public games and 36 playing greater rifts. i wonder why that is...im sure that has nothing to do with the fact thats its impossible to compete high in greater rifts now or the fact that greater rift density is terrible or even the fact thatb greater rifts give poor loot and exp. or even one of the biggest facts that you dont get jack shit for being number 1 on the leaderboards or even top 25. so tell me exactly how did the game change since last patch besides leveling up gems? theres no point in doing greater rifts and thats the problem, untill this patch the game was practically dead, noticed why only there were 1 or 2 okay streamers on twitch then when 2.1 hit everyone came back? its because all there was to do was t 6 over and over and over again with no changes...and theres still not changes because greater rifts dont even matter right now. so essentially the games back to ground 0 except for having a few fancy gems. hmmm...i wonder why there is nobody in public games. and sure you can find your guild on the forums, i think most people on the forums have found a guild that way, but the people that dont even use the forums didnt. and there are plenty of people like that if not more.
and when i say the games dead i dont mean you cant play it with friends or a clan, im saying if you dont have a clan your probably better off playing by yourself, and theres LOTS of people that dont have a clan or one thats inactive or one they dont like...and i think a lot of people would agree, playing by yourself gets very boring after some time. i like its you thats dillusional for still playing season 1...they are probably gonna end it early so not really much of a point and if they dont end it early they will lose even more people then they already have.
That screenshot of an unspecified realm at an unspecified time is proof that not only the game is boned but that it's specifically because of changes to trials and exp exploits? That's impressive.
My clan is still active, my friends list is still active. My anecdotal evidence and yours seem to not agree, solution? PILLOW FIGHT!
yeah...i dont know how to make it show time, im not great with computers, if you dont blieve go check for yourself, and there is no realms its seasons and non seasons. and this is seasons at pretty much prime time. you guys will defend blizzard to the gates of hell its funny. seriously EVERYONE go check if you dont believe me and go ahead and post your results. id take a screenshot with my clock at the bottom of my screen but youd complain about that to. and im saying the game is dying from all of these problems combine that MOST of you say is completly okay. well now do you think its completly okay? sure you have an active guild...not hard to get 150 people...which most guilds do not have. after all most games have millions. buts thats going to keep growing smaller and smaller if they dont stop doing things like these. i think the fact that there were thousands of people doing t 6 greater rifts at the begining of the season and now there is 36 st prime time says quite a bit. and i know torment doesnt matter for g rifts but most people are t6 cabaple and just leave it on t 6.
1) Source that most people are capable of T6. (Hint: "Most" people are not.)
2) Right now there are 270 people in T6 public games on the US region non-seasonal. It shouldn't be any surprise to anyone but the most competitive of people that non-seasonal is more popular than seasonal. For the average player there is zero reason to compete in seasons, especially this first season which is pretty much a huge test of seasons since Blizzard has stated in the past that PTRs and Betas provide less testing feedback than they'd actually like.
3) Read your own thread title, you claim to have PROOF of the reason why there are so few people playing in seasons. Yet you haven't shown any of this proof that you supposedly have. At best you have proof that season 1 had little longevity, or that season 1 wasn't very popular, in the PUG scene but you don't have proof of why, and you also don't show how popular pugging was in seasons. You're looking at a minority of a minority and making a judgment on the entire game based on that with zero historical data.
4) Regions not mattering is news to me considering that the regions in this game are completely separate and always have been.
5) Don't accuse me of blindly defending Blizzard and their decisions, they make plenty that I disagree with. When you're wrong and use poor wording and someone calls you on making claims and having no proof it doesn't mean that they're part of the Blizzard defense force, just that they feel that you personally are wrong.
i think anyone who has played seasons saw that there were thousands of people in public games when it started. and 270 people is like nothing dude, you just proved to me that the game is dying..probably shouldnt have said that. and the majority of players DO join a public game here and there especially when theres not a lot of groups in there clan or the groups that are there are full. so no i would hardly call public games a minority. even if there was fewer people, even half, even 30%, the numbers are so low that its something to show that at least points where the game is headed and where its at.
do you have anything that shows otherwise? i doubt it, this is least something to go off of. how do you think guilds start huh? public games...sure you can post on the forums, but theres more people that dont use the forums then do. so even then your gonna need to play public games to find people.
You made the claim bro, burden of proof is on you.
And you keep making claims and providing no proof of these claims. For example, you say that the majority of people join a public game here and there. Proof on that? You claim that anyone that has played seasons not only played a public game but bothered to check how many people were playing in public games. Proof? I won't dispute that there are fewer players now than at the launch of seasons, that should actually be fairly obvious. What I will dispute is your claim that you have proof of the cause of that. You claim that communities come from public games. Proof? Public games and seasonal players and especially seasonal public players are a significant portion of the player base? Proof?
Your thread title says you have proof, but so far you've posted proof of none of your claims. Where's the proof?
wheres your proof? your making claims that its not dying, and yet you dont provide proof? at the very least i have provided proof that the game is dying for people that play in public games if nothing else and i know many people do. and what happens when nobodys on in your clan, or when all the groups are full in your clan? well..i guess you hafta play by your self if you wanna do greater rifts. but sure thats no problemo at all. i mean after all most people do meet in public games. do you want proof for that to? well i got news for you theres not proof for everything, i cant just hack into blizz's servers and give you numbers. i think this should at least show where the game is headed, and where its at now. pretty much just showing where its at now shows you where the game is headed. i think most people have played public games at least a few times at this point in the season and if they havent then they just soloed by themself instead, but a lot of people were not capable of that and still arent. so yes that is why public games are important. a lot of peoples clan are not going to help them make a new charcter and get them all they're gear. that could takes days if not a week or so, and sure theres people that are nice, and might help reach 70, but not a lot of people are that nice and will help you get your whole set to do t 6.
230 people or whatever you said is on the retail server, you could spend 20 - 30 minutes trying to find a game , getting in the same one over and over again and then you do get into an okay game but theres a level 57 paragon in the game with as bad as gear you. then its just a complete carry, and the higher paragons with all the gear will leave because they know they are carrying you and most people dont wanna do that with 2 noobies in the game, makes it much harder.
if there is 230 people that is counting the groups that are actually full also, 4 people per group thats only 57 games. and most of those games are going to be full, because the game will keep making the game full even when people leave. but sure even if 75% of the games were full and 25% were 1 or 2 open spaces, thats only 14 games...and probably less then that. but no thats not a problem at all. i mean afterall the company has only made millions upon millions of dollars...and seeing as most games have millions of players. i guess 14 open games to the public for rifts which is only one of the most popular things to do in the game isnt a big deal at all though. better hope your clan can carry you through t 6 otherwise its back to sloing t 1 once you make a new toon or get very lucky and find someone in 1 of those 14 games to carry you for more then 10 minutes.
Didn't you "uninstall and quit forever" because it turns out you were just bad at the game?
lmao couldnt think of anything else to say? yes i did uninstall the game, and my friend told me about crusaders and how they are much better. and they are, i started to play for a while, got 3 ahkan pieces. then they pulled this crap with the trials so i did quit. didnt uninstall it though, i found a class i actually like and want to play the game but not when theres major problems that need to be adressed. i havent decided if i wanted to give season 2 a shot yet. it doesnt sound like they have things under control at all but id like to play. and all of this bs about you dont pay monthly blah blah, you pay them for the game, and theres always new people buying it especially when a new patch comes out. theres many games that are like this and succesful to, sounds to me like your making excuses for them. what the game should be filled with exploits and them ruining the leaderboards because they dont get payed enough? please diablo has made a ton of money especially when the game first came out and it was a complete bust, in fact they made all that money and produced such a poor game i think people deserve a good game when they pay for the game a second time. instead people pay for the game a second time and for seasons its almost as bad as when it first released if your trying to compete. i know its hard to compare the two but thats my opinion.
and people think that just because im trying to bring attention to these problems i should quit, i dont want to quit. but i do want to compete and at this point thats not possible without major changes. whats the point in playing for 3 monthes and having your charcter wiped if theres no goal in those 3 monthes? after season 3 or 4 a lot of people would get really bored if there was no leaderboard to shoot for.
That screenshot of an unspecified realm at an unspecified time is proof that not only the game is boned but that it's specifically because of changes to trials and exp exploits? That's impressive.
My clan is still active, my friends list is still active. My anecdotal evidence and yours seem to not agree, solution? PILLOW FIGHT!
yeah...i dont know how to make it show time, im not great with computers, if you dont blieve go check for yourself, and there is no realms its seasons and non seasons. and this is seasons at pretty much prime time. you guys will defend blizzard to the gates of hell its funny. seriously EVERYONE go check if you dont believe me and go ahead and post your results. id take a screenshot with my clock at the bottom of my screen but youd complain about that to. and im saying the game is dying from all of these problems combine that MOST of you say is completly okay. well now do you think its completly okay? sure you have an active guild...not hard to get 150 people...which most guilds do not have. after all most games have millions. buts thats going to keep growing smaller and smaller if they dont stop doing things like these. i think the fact that there were thousands of people doing t 6 greater rifts at the begining of the season and now there is 36 st prime time says quite a bit. and i know torment doesnt matter for g rifts but most people are t6 cabaple and just leave it on t 6.
1) Source that most people are capable of T6. (Hint: "Most" people are not.)
2) Right now there are 270 people in T6 public games on the US region non-seasonal. It shouldn't be any surprise to anyone but the most competitive of people that non-seasonal is more popular than seasonal. For the average player there is zero reason to compete in seasons, especially this first season which is pretty much a huge test of seasons since Blizzard has stated in the past that PTRs and Betas provide less testing feedback than they'd actually like.
3) Read your own thread title, you claim to have PROOF of the reason why there are so few people playing in seasons. Yet you haven't shown any of this proof that you supposedly have. At best you have proof that season 1 had little longevity, or that season 1 wasn't very popular, in the PUG scene but you don't have proof of why, and you also don't show how popular pugging was in seasons. You're looking at a minority of a minority and making a judgment on the entire game based on that with zero historical data.
4) Regions not mattering is news to me considering that the regions in this game are completely separate and always have been.
5) Don't accuse me of blindly defending Blizzard and their decisions, they make plenty that I disagree with. When you're wrong and use poor wording and someone calls you on making claims and having no proof it doesn't mean that they're part of the Blizzard defense force, just that they feel that you personally are wrong.
i think anyone who has played seasons saw that there were thousands of people in public games when it started. and 270 people is like nothing dude, you just proved to me that the game is dying..probably shouldnt have said that. and the majority of players DO join a public game here and there especially when theres not a lot of groups in there clan or the groups that are there are full. so no i would hardly call public games a minority. even if there was fewer people, even half, even 30%, the numbers are so low that its something to show that at least points where the game is headed and where its at.
do you have anything that shows otherwise? i doubt it, this is least something to go off of. how do you think guilds start huh? public games...sure you can post on the forums, but theres more people that dont use the forums then do. so even then your gonna need to play public games to find people.
It's season one bro. Relax. They are trying to get shit right. Are you really going to care two seasons from now that in season one shit changed? Probably not. It's really not that bad. And I think d3 has come a long way. If you don't like it just stop playing until season two comes out.
i already have but i dont want season 2 to be just as bad, and on top of that what makes you think all these people that quit are coming back? hell i couldnt blame them if they didnt. season one was important because it was VERY important to make a good first impression and not a complete joke like it has been. if you ate at a diner and got a cockroach in your food would you say well...its only the first time i went there. maybe i should go back in a month or two, its only been open a few monthes. i doubt it, and thats how most people think.
D3 is definitely dying to exploits. People are sick of cheaters gaining massively with each patch and Blizzard completely shoving it under the rug like its nothing. Season 1 of ladders ruined (arguably the most important one) paragon ruined as well Kadala ruined. I really dont see where the game is headed other than into the ground.
completly agree, and i doubt people will buy another expansion or blizz will even make another expansion at this rate. seasons were the most important thing this game had to offer, people were sick of doing t 6 and nothing else for almost a year and once you reach a certain point on the leaderboards its gonna be monthes till its broken on retail servers. seasons were like the cheese on a pizza, otherwise all you got is dough and sauce.
That screenshot of an unspecified realm at an unspecified time is proof that not only the game is boned but that it's specifically because of changes to trials and exp exploits? That's impressive.
My clan is still active, my friends list is still active. My anecdotal evidence and yours seem to not agree, solution? PILLOW FIGHT!
yeah...i dont know how to make it show time, im not great with computers, if you dont blieve go check for yourself, and there is no realms its seasons and non seasons. and this is seasons at pretty much prime time. you guys will defend blizzard to the gates of hell its funny. seriously EVERYONE go check if you dont believe me and go ahead and post your results. id take a screenshot with my clock at the bottom of my screen but youd complain about that to. and im saying the game is dying from all of these problems combine that MOST of you say is completly okay. well now do you think its completly okay? sure you have an active guild...not hard to get 150 people...which most guilds do not have. after all most games have millions. buts thats going to keep growing smaller and smaller if they dont stop doing things like these. i think the fact that there were thousands of people doing t 6 greater rifts at the begining of the season and now there is 36 st prime time says quite a bit. and i know torment doesnt matter for g rifts but most people are t6 cabaple and just leave it on t 6.
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and yes blizzard did make money, but so did many other games that have failed miserbly..that doesnt mean anything. the game sold well because diablo 2 was a great game and people wanted to relive that experience, they even gave it a second chance for ros. do you think people will really give it a third chance? and a forth chance? and a fifth chance? exploit after exploit, them not banning anyone for cheating, hell there might as well be white rings and duped items because it wouldnt change the game at all at the moment.
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and honestly i do like this game and it is for me, but i like competing, im a competitive player. and this making everyone do 5 extra waves of trials for the same keystone is a slap in the face to anyone who is competing. it seriously makes it near impossible to get top 10 now solo or multiplayer "and i will provide actual proof to that in a few weeks maybe a month or so"
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funny thing is i wouldnt be suprised if they completly killed the leaderboards and remove those as well as messing up trials. good thing i dont play anymore. guess ill just wait till season 3 when the games not a complete joke and nothing but running regualar t 6 rifts just like its been for the past year now.
but hey, at least you can upgrade your gems and use them on t6 rifts which you dont even need them fr. correct e if im wrong..feel free.or better yet go ahead and insult me more if you feel you need to, im sure discovering that t 6 rifts are now the whole point in the game hurts after putting hundreds if not thousands of hours into your charcter.
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and when i say the games dead i dont mean you cant play it with friends or a clan, im saying if you dont have a clan your probably better off playing by yourself, and theres LOTS of people that dont have a clan or one thats inactive or one they dont like...and i think a lot of people would agree, playing by yourself gets very boring after some time. i like its you thats dillusional for still playing season 1...they are probably gonna end it early so not really much of a point and if they dont end it early they will lose even more people then they already have.
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230 people or whatever you said is on the retail server, you could spend 20 - 30 minutes trying to find a game , getting in the same one over and over again and then you do get into an okay game but theres a level 57 paragon in the game with as bad as gear you. then its just a complete carry, and the higher paragons with all the gear will leave because they know they are carrying you and most people dont wanna do that with 2 noobies in the game, makes it much harder.
if there is 230 people that is counting the groups that are actually full also, 4 people per group thats only 57 games. and most of those games are going to be full, because the game will keep making the game full even when people leave. but sure even if 75% of the games were full and 25% were 1 or 2 open spaces, thats only 14 games...and probably less then that. but no thats not a problem at all. i mean afterall the company has only made millions upon millions of dollars...and seeing as most games have millions of players. i guess 14 open games to the public for rifts which is only one of the most popular things to do in the game isnt a big deal at all though. better hope your clan can carry you through t 6 otherwise its back to sloing t 1 once you make a new toon or get very lucky and find someone in 1 of those 14 games to carry you for more then 10 minutes.
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and people think that just because im trying to bring attention to these problems i should quit, i dont want to quit. but i do want to compete and at this point thats not possible without major changes. whats the point in playing for 3 monthes and having your charcter wiped if theres no goal in those 3 monthes? after season 3 or 4 a lot of people would get really bored if there was no leaderboard to shoot for.
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do you have anything that shows otherwise? i doubt it, this is least something to go off of. how do you think guilds start huh? public games...sure you can post on the forums, but theres more people that dont use the forums then do. so even then your gonna need to play public games to find people.
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