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I am very geared, over 18 million toughness with lots of armor all res and over 400k health, i am a leapquake barb and gain 50% of my armor when i jump bringing me over 25 million toghness and yet i still get 1 shotted by this boss thats a stone guy and splits and it is COMPLETLY unavoidable. you cant leap in and not get hit, they are constantly swinging in all directions. thats the problem with this game they favor range way to much, the only reason melee are high on leader boards is because they hope not to get bosses like these.

also i feel like im being forced to use string of ears even though im trying to go a double rend build with the new belt, guess its not an option though...not sure why its even in the game when melee really only have 1 or 2 options

they definitively did NOT ban people for gear exploits. there were several streamers who did the blood shard exploit including my friend and they never got banned and this was far before rift it forward. i have yet to see or hear blizz ban anyone on d 3 to be quite honest. its more of a we dont get paid enough for this shit, hopefully the people forget kind of thing. blizz has made it perfectly clear that they dont care about ANY exploits so my advice, if you cant compete because of an exploit either quit or join them. kind of sad but its true. i promise you one day you'll actually see how little blizz cares about cheating in d 3, its a non sub game and its extra effort to investigate and ban and thats not something they are willing to do.

So its come to my atterntion that armor on gear is scaled WAYYYY to low, for instance i got an upfrade and it had armor, my other piece didnt, i equiped it to find that i gained .20% ddamage reduction, 1/5th of a percent, also i have 18000 armor and its only 320 armor. why would blizzard think that this is viable? any retard can see that its a problem, if you get armor and another useless stat on a good piece of gear its essentially ruined. today i got ancient parlen dfenders, 500 strength which is max, max damage reduction, max fire damge but armor and life per hit. i rerolled the life per hit as i am leapquake barb and life per hit doesnt really work..so that leaves me with a completly useless stat. anyone else feel my pain?

its not just the fact that they cheated and got away with it. even if you dont think paragons matter. what about next time? when its a gear exploit. theyve shown time and time again they dont care about banning people that exploit, and my guess is if there was a gear exploit people STILL wouldn't be banned. gold was a huge deal and nobody got banned for the gold dupe, essentially you can reroll your gear all day long but no even that was ok. and in fact there was a gear exploit, people were making t 6 games on lvl 1 toons, switching toons, then clearing the t 6 rifts within 2 minutes for blood shards. guess what? nobody got banned. my point is blizzard has yet to show they will ban for anything at all. i bet it would be okay to even bot right to be honest and im sure you still wouldn't be banned. but i guess all of this okay to you guys, if your saying blizzard wants to please the customers, and the customers say its okay to exploit what do you think is gonna happen?

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To the point I highlighted, I'd probably agree with you, but if you put yourself in the seat of, or try to see from the point of view of those people that DO care about that leaderboard, it affects them. Try to see it from someone else's viewpoint.
Minimally now whether anyone else circumvented the system, it's all questionable, doubtful, just that bit less prestigious. And that affects some people.

I care about leaderboard. But I care about leaderboards that have real substance. World-first T6 kills, highest GRift, speed run conquests (a little less substance), highest "gearscore". None of those are affected by the exploit.

If stuff like that had been exploitable? Hell yah I'd want bans. But as someone who has enough epeen to give a shit about real challenges paragon levels are laughable. All they say is "I spent a billion hours farming XP". They aren't so much a personal achievement as an afterthought.

As the whole "weraing p100 gear at p500" situation so very perfectly shows.

I have sympathy that their epeen is hurting. But wanting bans over it is basically throwing a tantrum. Those free levels don't mean jack-shit for the final power of the character when the season ends, that's going to come from long hours at a keyboard, a bit of skill, anda touch of luck. None of which has been exploited for.

levels definitly matter, lets say someone who is level 35, they cant do t 6 without being kicked from the group, but when people see a level 350 they wont do shit. gabyanotor went from like 50 to 350 in1 day therefor allowing him to to t 6 and therefore get gear faster, and therefore getting higher on the leaderboards. just because you think paragons dont mean a lot doesnt mean it deosnt affect other aspects of the game. also it gives a slight edge in greater rifts, anything below 800 is important in paragon, even as important as a piece of gear. 50% crit damage is the equivelant of a ring, 10% cooldown is the equievelent of a major part of an amulet. they might not be drastic but they do affect gameplay and leaderboards. thats like saying 250 primary stats and 50% crit damage, 10% crit, 10% cooldown, and 10% recource cost reduction, lots of life per hit mean nothing, if it means nothing then why is it on some of the most important pieces of gear in the game with about the same ammount oif stats?

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you seem to talk a lot about how you dont care about the exploits, lets see your profile then? i bet your level 100 and dont even compete and THATS why you dont care ruksak. its people that play seriously that get hosed on all this. just because it doesnt affect you doesnt mean it doesnt affect the comminuty, and your part of the community so you really should stop acting childish.

they rushed this patch as past as possible without any care so your right, you nailed it. they want people to keep buying the game, and future expansions, doesnt mean they are going to give two shits about the patch they create. like i said this exploit was in the ptr and they STILL didnt fix it. they knew pet doctors pets would get slaughtered in greater rifts and they didnt fix that either along with density problems conduit shrines in greater rifts and many other problems.

and what difference does it make...hmm, well first off i spent 150 hours about leveling to 400 and somone named gabynator and many other reached the same level in 1 day. no thats not a problem at all, only 50% crit, 10% crit chance, 10% cooldown, over 3500 life per hit, lots of primary stats, recource cost reduction, all of this combined is more then a whole piece a gear, and if gear means nothing then whats the point in farming?

its been over a day now, i think they would've been banned or rolled back by now even if they were taking the're time. like i said blizzard would rather just pretend this never happened and hopes you will to, and again and again. this is why i didn't wanna play seasons, the mathiel exploit was out for over a month and they banned nobody, same with the gold exploit, and running t 6 rifts on lvl 1 chars then switching back to theyre 70 for max blood shards. you can do any exploit youd like and blizzard would not ban you if enough people do it. it takes time, it takes money, and they dont wanna waste money. i think them not doing anything proves that. theres people that cheated and are paragon like 600. not to mention theres a website that monitors paragon and people like to compete on that as well. thats completely ruined now. paragons are definitely enough to carry you an extra few greater rifts levels.

i completely disagree that this patch is for finding and fixing exploits, they had a ptr for monthes for that and this exploit was in the ptr and still was not fixed not to point any fingers, but this WAS addressed in the ptr. it should have been fixed before launching seasons. does not mean people should be taking advantage of the game. although if you want to compete its probably a good idea to exploit with everyone else to stay on an even ground, not like theyre banning anyone Kappa

it affects everyone who is competing, of course it doesnt affect anyone who had no chance of being on the leaderbaords and those are the pople who are saying its okay because they didnt put in the time and effort to level up super high and compete. and if 50% cit damage 10 % cooldown 10% crit chance, lots of life per hit, lots of strength int or dex, recourse reduction, and so on doesn't matter then you must be retarded. most rings only have 30% - 50% crit damege so thats like a whole piece a gear probably more because of the other stats. any paragon levels below 800 are huge for progression on most classes.

everyone who says its not a big deal are cusuals who dont play a lot, anyone who worked hard for theyre paagons and actually is competing gets the back end of the stick not the casuals. so please if your not even close to being on the leaderboard you have no right to say that its not a big deal. and they should be banned to send a message, them not banning them is saying that its okay to exploit in a competitive game, which it should be with the leaderboards. i understant it doesnt effect the casuals, but that doesnt mean it doesnt affect a lot of us. how would you feel if you stayed up 36 hours the firt day of release then slept 6 hours everyday since and played all the time and then have someone exploit and pull ahead of you on paragon and potentially in the leaderboards in the near future. not fun.

the exploiters knew what they were doing was wrong, they knew it was cheating, and it even made a lot of people quit and even made alot of people quit the game for good. if exploits like this keep happening and the exploiters keep getting away with this i cant see this game making another successful expansion let alone have seasons be sucessful. everyone will take it as a joke. which it kind of is right now, gaining 300 levels in 1 day. that sure sounds like competition to me.

its not hard to figuere out who the exploiters are when theyre sitting in town getting 70 bill exp an hour for hours on in im sorry. and if they were gonna ban people, they wouldve already im pretty sure. also paragon levels are a HUGE deal. i doubt anyone will hit 800 before seasons end and anything below that like cooldown reduction crit chance crit damage recource cost life per hit, you might as well be handing them better gear.

not true, i was high on leaderboards and it set me back. also gabynoator for instance, he was level like 20 now level 350 in 1 day. if hes on the leaderboards 1 day which he will be, then yes it does have an affect and thats an example of 1 player. but hey, i guess who cares if you start late on seasons if you can just exploit your way back to everyone elses level and compete. its not fair to everyone who worked so hard to get high levels and try to compete. theres people that didnt even sleep some nights just to get ahead, and for what? to have someone who cheated beat them on the leaderboards?

and even if you dont think this is a big deal, what about next time? what if theres a gear exploit? they clearly sent a message, theyre not fixing the damage from exploits. and in fact they didnt even ban the people that advertised the exploits "streamers"

kind of ridiculas that theyre not going to ban anyone or even roll them back, typical diablo. i hope many people quit the game from this and stop buying theyre expansions.