Reading through most of that just made me want to learn more of the characters stories and what role they play in sanctuary. I also feel there is still something missing in the D3 char's, but we all know how anal blizzard are with balancing, and they're pretty good with stories too, who knows what the finished product will be... It could be totally different to what we're seeing/hearing atm. Don't forget blizzard has scrapped a whole project that was near completion. Not that im saying they'll do that with D3 but you can see what lengths they go to to maintain there integrity.
So the OP has some valid points, but I wanted to examine what is probable/likely as opposed to what people want.
- One of the panels already described the D3 heroes as "morally ambiguous, like the D1 chars, or the D2 sin/necro." So yes, you're completely spot-on when you mention that this is about "who is the biggest badass" as opposed to a noble hero. Good or bad that's the direction they are taking.
- The bone the good-two-shoers have been thrown is already here, it's the monk. It's really a less ambiguous character than most will give credit for, you (and probably most people) are just not tuned into it because it exemplifies a nobility very different from chivalrous knights. As the witch doctor suggests though, D3 is really reaching out for some exotic and non-western twists on the typical archetypes. (e.g. even the classic wizard has clearly asian origins)
- While we are on the "leadership" topic, I feel confident that nothing mechanically similar to the paladin auras will return in a major way. Blizzard seems to be very consciously trying to differentiate this from MMOs (including their own) and not create support characters or encourage balanced parties, they want any band of 1-x players to get together, have a good time, and be farily challenged in higher difficulties. Considering they are talking about max 4 party size, support characters aren't that exciting anyway.
Well to give the game some variety they could just give the male and female versions different stories i dont mean that they have to change were they come from but they could just give them somewhat of a different background. Maybe the male wiz it more respected than the female one and maybe he isnt a rebel like she is, something like that.
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[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]"The lord of murder shall perish, but in his death he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown in their footsteps"
-So sayeth the wise Alaundo
What? Males can still be wizards just because shes a rebel doesnt mean that he cant be called a wizard because he isnt a rebel.
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[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]"The lord of murder shall perish, but in his death he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown in their footsteps"
-So sayeth the wise Alaundo
Well whatever im just saying that it would be cool if the male and female characters had atleast a slightly different background.
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[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]"The lord of murder shall perish, but in his death he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown in their footsteps"
-So sayeth the wise Alaundo
I agree with you as well. I just do not see how you can have a Diablo series and not have a knight of some sort. I think this group making the game can be trying so hard to distant themselves from the previous two , rather than what is good for the game. They have even mention how this will be the title of the series. He will be missed for sure. And think about this group of heros for a minute. YOu have a lunatic witch doctor, crazed barbarian, zulu style monk lol. the only one that makes sense would be the wizard. But who knows maybe they will surprise us with the 5th class but i doubt it.
Yup all were missing is a lone warrior/adventure seeking warrior type of character.
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[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]"The lord of murder shall perish, but in his death he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown in their footsteps"
-So sayeth the wise Alaundo
I agree with you as well. I just do not see how you can have a Diablo series and not have a knight of some sort. I think this group making the game can be trying so hard to distant themselves from the previous two , rather than what is good for the game. They have even mention how this will be the title of the series. He will be missed for sure. And think about this group of heros for a minute. YOu have a lunatic witch doctor, crazed barbarian, zulu style monk lol. the only one that makes sense would be the wizard. But who knows maybe they will surprise us with the 5th class but i doubt it.
I understand that they're trying to add new playstyles or whatever to the next addition of this series, which is alright and is to be expected, but I don't see why EVERY class has to be of this "morally ambiguous" nature as someone on the team stated. They need to have that noble, knightly, dutiful class that the original players who made this series popular in the first place, are used to having. And I'm suspecting someone on the dev team feels the same way as I remember reading in a dev journal I think it was, that one of the devs isn't happy with all of the new classes.
But I have to disagree with you abit on the style of play of these new classes. The barb is indeed somewhat of a brute in his fighting style but he seems like the most down to earth one of the bunch character wise, I just see him more as "supporting muscle" than any kind of leader type. While the wizard just seems like corruption waiting to happen.
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You're kind right... When i worte the OP I wasn't very sure of what i was missing in D3 you kno ? Only after argue a little bit I could realise what I'm missing.
About the paladin leadership thing. Well it's part of his own background and gameplay. When you're starting a D2 characte I'm sure theres something in his descriptionabout good teamplay and leadership. If could define every D2 character in a few words:
Paladin - Leadership
Barbarian - Might
Necromancer - Mystery
Sorceress - Magic (lol)
Amazon - Finesse
Druid - Nature
Assassin - Instant Kill
And i'm really missing someone who could be defined with "Leadership".
I see what you mean now in your view of the paladin....in being the leader he sort of unified the other classes whom most had alterior motives, into one just cause.
Though for me, it was the fact that he was a knightly and disciplined character who had a strong anti-evil nature coupled with spirtual righteous empowerment, who believably had the ability to counter the invading demonic forces.
That actually reminds me i hope that in D3 we hear about the band of heroes that defeated the prime evils in D2 and what paths they took after the whole worldstone event.
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[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]"The lord of murder shall perish, but in his death he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown in their footsteps"
-So sayeth the wise Alaundo
That brings up the question.. Is the Barbarian in D3 the same barbarian we played as in D2? In lore wise not gameplay.
As far as I know, yes it is. I can see 20 years d2 barbarian to the d3 barbarian. also i think they were going to bring back d2 characters who have or fighting couruption from the things they saw.
and since the barbarian is technically the protector of mount arreat. and that got destroyed. i would be pissed to and want to kick some demon ass.
Sweet! I'm thinking same has happened to the Paladin since the Zakarum have been all killed with their corruption from Mephisto. Though, what might have happened to the Amazoness? Well we can't go to her homeland. As well, will we see the Assassin? The Druid and the Sorc I'm somewhat positive. The Druids lived among the Barbs. But the Sorc may have gone back to Caldeum. Oh I have another question, but it isn't D3 related. Its D2. We saw the Rogue back in the Rogue Encampment. The one you played as in D1 she was corrupted. But whatever happened to the Sorc in D1? I don't recall ever seeing him in D2. Btw I haven't played LOD..
The D1 Sorc is the Summoner in Act 2.= Arcane Sanctuary.
I would love to see what happened with D2 ppl. And find that the necromancer is the only uncorrupted one !
But whatever happened to the Sorc in D1? I don't recall ever seeing him in D2. Btw I haven't played LOD..
The D1 Sorc is the Summoner in Act 2.= Arcane Sanctuary.
I would love to see what happened with D2 ppl. And find that the necromancer is the only uncorrupted one !
This is what I'm asking about, which Act 2 exactly is he talking about? Because I have never played LOD. But I heard something about it having its own "Act 2" Because I don't recall any Arcane Sanctuary in Lut Golhein. (Sorry I can't spell the name right either)
This is what I'm asking about, which Act 2 exactly is he talking about? Because I have never played LOD. But I heard something about it having its own "Act 2" Because I don't recall any Arcane Sanctuary in Lut Golhein. (Sorry I can't spell the name right either)
There is no 2nd act 2, that would be confusing as hell, don't you think?
You enter the Palace and down there you find a portal, which leads to the Arcane Sanctuary... you know, gray place floating in what looks like space... I have no idea how you could forget that.
LOL, i said anal.
- One of the panels already described the D3 heroes as "morally ambiguous, like the D1 chars, or the D2 sin/necro." So yes, you're completely spot-on when you mention that this is about "who is the biggest badass" as opposed to a noble hero. Good or bad that's the direction they are taking.
- The bone the good-two-shoers have been thrown is already here, it's the monk. It's really a less ambiguous character than most will give credit for, you (and probably most people) are just not tuned into it because it exemplifies a nobility very different from chivalrous knights. As the witch doctor suggests though, D3 is really reaching out for some exotic and non-western twists on the typical archetypes. (e.g. even the classic wizard has clearly asian origins)
- While we are on the "leadership" topic, I feel confident that nothing mechanically similar to the paladin auras will return in a major way. Blizzard seems to be very consciously trying to differentiate this from MMOs (including their own) and not create support characters or encourage balanced parties, they want any band of 1-x players to get together, have a good time, and be farily challenged in higher difficulties. Considering they are talking about max 4 party size, support characters aren't that exciting anyway.
-So sayeth the wise Alaundo
-So sayeth the wise Alaundo
He tryed to say that "wizards" are rebel/unrespected mages. Also it won't fit the own class skills.
-So sayeth the wise Alaundo
-So sayeth the wise Alaundo
I understand that they're trying to add new playstyles or whatever to the next addition of this series, which is alright and is to be expected, but I don't see why EVERY class has to be of this "morally ambiguous" nature as someone on the team stated. They need to have that noble, knightly, dutiful class that the original players who made this series popular in the first place, are used to having. And I'm suspecting someone on the dev team feels the same way as I remember reading in a dev journal I think it was, that one of the devs isn't happy with all of the new classes.
But I have to disagree with you abit on the style of play of these new classes. The barb is indeed somewhat of a brute in his fighting style but he seems like the most down to earth one of the bunch character wise, I just see him more as "supporting muscle" than any kind of leader type. While the wizard just seems like corruption waiting to happen.
I see what you mean now in your view of the paladin....in being the leader he sort of unified the other classes whom most had alterior motives, into one just cause.
Though for me, it was the fact that he was a knightly and disciplined character who had a strong anti-evil nature coupled with spirtual righteous empowerment, who believably had the ability to counter the invading demonic forces.
-So sayeth the wise Alaundo
As far as I know, yes it is. I can see 20 years d2 barbarian to the d3 barbarian. also i think they were going to bring back d2 characters who have or fighting couruption from the things they saw.
and since the barbarian is technically the protector of mount arreat. and that got destroyed. i would be pissed to and want to kick some demon ass.
I would love to see what happened with D2 ppl. And find that the necromancer is the only uncorrupted one !
what are you talking about
Battle not with monsters lest you become one.
You enter the Palace and down there you find a portal, which leads to the Arcane Sanctuary... you know, gray place floating in what looks like space... I have no idea how you could forget that.