Thanls for ruining the ending for me guys I am just on chapter 15 of the book....
I, too, have learned that it's best just to steer clear of the Lore threads until I've read all the books.
The books that are currently in print have been out for a long time, now. It's kind of silly for us expect people not to discuss them simply because we aren't up to speed with everyone else.
And it would be incredibly cumbersome for folks to put spoiler tags in every post. It's a Lore thread -- spoilers are pretty much implied just by the title.
Anakyn has a good point.. but in this particular case, don't worry, its not really a spoiler anyway. It has very little to do with the main storyline of Legacy of Blood.
Izual never destroyed Shadowfang, which was what he was trying to do. When Tyrael give you the Izual quest he says Izual still poses a challenge even though he does not have the Azurewrath anymore.
Both Shadowfang and Azurewrath can be found in the game. It is possible, though very rarely does it happen, that Izual will drop Azurewrath (which is kinda funny coz Tyrael said he isn't suppose to have it anymore)
Shadowfang is really only mentioned the one time, it is not clear who wield it after the failed attack on the Hellforge, if indeed anyone ever did. The only monster who probably had any real contact with Shadowfang is Haephastos the Armorer, as he probably made it, being that he works the Hellforge.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
Because thats where the Wanderer put it. The Wanderer (Warrior from DI) defeated Diablo and attempted to contain Diablo's soulstone within in him. But of course, Diablo was too strong for him, and so Diablo ended up taking over his body completely and the soulstone just happened to still be stuck in his head.
Are there more planes in creation than just heaven hell and sanctuary? Because there is trags realm too, im not sure if thats apart of sanctuary or a seperate plane. Also what about the amazon godesses?
And in the Sin War trilogy the third book, trag was talking to some other being who seemed more powerful than him. Does anyone have a clue who they were?
Are there more planes in creation than just heaven hell and sanctuary? Because there is trags realm too, im not sure if thats apart of sanctuary or a seperate plane. Also what about the amazon godesses?
And in the Sin War trilogy the third book, trag was talking to some other being who seemed more powerful than him. Does anyone have a clue who they were?
There appears to be, but there are no names given and neither Heaven nor Hell seem to be aware of them. Hopefully more will be revealved in D3.
The Amazon gods we know very little of, I think it's been theorized that they are Nephalem.
The other beings are also very vague, but may be beings similar to Trag'Oul in their respective realms.
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The quest for knowledge is honorable indeed, and we should all arm ourselves with it for the coming of the third game.
But one should take into consideration that a lot of what little we know to have been true yesterday might already be false today, and it will only be until tomorrow that we might sort everything out.
For the first question, I am assuming that you are referring to capturing of Baal that resulted in the shattering of his Soulstone.
It could be that the shattering of the Soulstone was an accident, but I would rather think that it was done by Baal on purpose.
When Baal finds Marius in order to retrieve his Soulstone, he tells him that he did exactly what he was meant to do, by that he might have meant that Marius did the right thing from his point of view, but it also could mean that Marius was destined for his role in the return of the Three long before he was even born.
All that Marius had done were two things, pulling the Soulstone from Tal Rasha's chest at a most critical moment and allowing for Baal's release, and not destroying Baal's Soulstone and thus allowing Baal to take control over it and use in to corrupt the Worldstone.
All of that was very dependent in the fact that Marius, for some reason, followed Diablo, still in the form of the Dark Wandered, and that Diablo for some reason, left him alive and allowed him to follow him.
In the end, Baal was able to corrupt the Worldstone with just his shard of his original Soulstone, and so it seems that if it was shattered on purpose, it did not come in contrast with his intentional use for it.
For the second question, I have posted a very long and detailed summery of the time line that was a given until a few weeks ago, and a few minutes later, Blizzard had released a new version of the time line, one you are probably aware of, probably on purpose. http://www.diablofans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14611
For the third question, Inarius has two given background stories, not necessarily contradicting as I have suggested in the past, but most presumably are.
The old one, which ends with Inarius being deformed and imprisoned in a hall of mirrors, and the new one, given with the new Sin War trilogy which establishes the lore of the game, in which he was given to Mephisto and his fate is unknown.
As you can see, the composition of the old time line places the fall of Izual after the new story of Inarius and before the old story.
For the fourth question, in the Sin War trilogy it is revealed that when the world of Sanctuary was created buy the rouge Angels and Demons led Inarius, the Worldstone was created in order to conceal the existence of this new world from both Heaven and Hell.
At the beginning of the trilogy, the leaders of Hell is already aware of the existence of Sanctuary, and how they came to know about it is still unknown.
As the trilogy goes on, the leaders of Heaven also discover Sanctuary, this was probably the result of releasing an amount power too big that it could not have escaped the attention of Heaven even with the function of the Worldstone to conceal it.
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How was Diablo defeated by humans despite the fact that he is the most powerful being in Diablo universe(his universe)?We know that it was his will to get a strong body at first (referring to diablo I's end).But in Diablo II he was really defeated.
Even Inarius in his world afraid to encounter Diablo.I think it's silly humans can defeat Diablo.I hope in DIII we will get help of some greater powers to defeat Diablo.
The nephalem (aka humans) have the potential to be more powerful than demons and angels, which is why the Sin War (war to take over Sanctuary) has gone on for so long.
It does seem kind of silly though that humans can defeat someone like Diablo, but we never truly defeat him. Recently one of the devs said that 'defeating' the Three in Diablo II was just the tip of the iceberg.
And also remember that angels and demons lose much of their power while on Sanctuary.
The quest for knowledge is honorable indeed, and we should all arm ourselves with it for the coming of the third game.
But one should take into consideration that a lot of what little we know to have been true yesterday might already be false today, and it will only be until tomorrow that we might sort everything out.
For the first question, I am assuming that you are referring to capturing of Baal that resulted in the shattering of his Soulstone.
It could be that the shattering of the Soulstone was an accident, but I would rather think that it was done by Baal on purpose.
When Baal finds Marius in order to retrieve his Soulstone, he tells him that he did exactly what he was meant to do, by that he might have meant that Marius did the right thing from his point of view, but it also could mean that Marius was destined for his role in the return of the Three long before he was even born.
All that Marius had done were two things, pulling the Soulstone from Tal Rasha's chest at a most critical moment and allowing for Baal's release, and not destroying Baal's Soulstone and thus allowing Baal to take control over it and use in to corrupt the Worldstone.
All of that was very dependent in the fact that Marius, for some reason, followed Diablo, still in the form of the Dark Wandered, and that Diablo for some reason, left him alive and allowed him to follow him.
In the end, Baal was able to corrupt the Worldstone with just his shard of his original Soulstone, and so it seems that if it was shattered on purpose, it did not come in contrast with his intentional use for it.
For the second question, I have posted a very long and detailed summery of the time line that was a given until a few weeks ago, and a few minutes later, Blizzard had released a new version of the time line, one you are probably aware of, probably on purpose. http://www.diablofans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14611
For the third question, Inarius has two given background stories, not necessarily contradicting as I have suggested in the past, but most presumably are.
The old one, which ends with Inarius being deformed and imprisoned in a hall of mirrors, and the new one, given with the new Sin War trilogy which establishes the lore of the game, in which he was given to Mephisto and his fate is unknown.
As you can see, the composition of the old time line places the fall of Izual after the new story of Inarius and before the old story.
For the fourth question, in the Sin War trilogy it is revealed that when the world of Sanctuary was created buy the rouge Angels and Demons led Inarius, the Worldstone was created in order to conceal the existence of this new world from both Heaven and Hell.
At the beginning of the trilogy, the leaders of Hell is already aware of the existence of Sanctuary, and how they came to know about it is still unknowon.
As the trilogy goes on, the leaders of Heaven also discover Sanctuary, this was probably the result of releasing an amount power too big that it could not have escaped the attention of Heaven even with the function of the Worldstone to conceal it.
Thanks that definitely helped clarify some of my questions. In a follow up on the sin war question....
[2] -1755 The events of the Sin War Trilogy. – 3000 years before the darkening of Tristram. (28) (5) -480 The Sin War begins.
Those two dates confuse me. Does this mean the Sin War Trilogy is not part of the actual sin war where angels and demons vie for humans? Is the trilogy like a prequel to the actual event?
Any my other question...If the three were exiled for focusing on the human world instead of heaven, how did this differ than the sin war? Since the dark exile clearly happened after the sin war I am confused what they did differently during the sin war than after.
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I, too, have learned that it's best just to steer clear of the Lore threads until I've read all the books.
The books that are currently in print have been out for a long time, now. It's kind of silly for us expect people not to discuss them simply because we aren't up to speed with everyone else.
And it would be incredibly cumbersome for folks to put spoiler tags in every post. It's a Lore thread -- spoilers are pretty much implied just by the title.
Both Shadowfang and Azurewrath can be found in the game. It is possible, though very rarely does it happen, that Izual will drop Azurewrath (which is kinda funny coz Tyrael said he isn't suppose to have it anymore)
Shadowfang is really only mentioned the one time, it is not clear who wield it after the failed attack on the Hellforge, if indeed anyone ever did. The only monster who probably had any real contact with Shadowfang is Haephastos the Armorer, as he probably made it, being that he works the Hellforge.
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And in the Sin War trilogy the third book, trag was talking to some other being who seemed more powerful than him. Does anyone have a clue who they were?
The Amazon gods we know very little of, I think it's been theorized that they are Nephalem.
The other beings are also very vague, but may be beings similar to Trag'Oul in their respective realms.
1.) Why would Baal want to destroy his soul stone if the three had planned on corrupting them?
2.) Does anyone have a timeline of the Sin War? Or can really explain it to me. There are too many sources about it.
3.) Izual's descent to hell took place after Inarius was destroyed?
4.) How did heaven/hell discover Sanctuary?
But one should take into consideration that a lot of what little we know to have been true yesterday might already be false today, and it will only be until tomorrow that we might sort everything out.
For the first question, I am assuming that you are referring to capturing of Baal that resulted in the shattering of his Soulstone.
It could be that the shattering of the Soulstone was an accident, but I would rather think that it was done by Baal on purpose.
When Baal finds Marius in order to retrieve his Soulstone, he tells him that he did exactly what he was meant to do, by that he might have meant that Marius did the right thing from his point of view, but it also could mean that Marius was destined for his role in the return of the Three long before he was even born.
All that Marius had done were two things, pulling the Soulstone from Tal Rasha's chest at a most critical moment and allowing for Baal's release, and not destroying Baal's Soulstone and thus allowing Baal to take control over it and use in to corrupt the Worldstone.
All of that was very dependent in the fact that Marius, for some reason, followed Diablo, still in the form of the Dark Wandered, and that Diablo for some reason, left him alive and allowed him to follow him.
In the end, Baal was able to corrupt the Worldstone with just his shard of his original Soulstone, and so it seems that if it was shattered on purpose, it did not come in contrast with his intentional use for it.
For the second question, I have posted a very long and detailed summery of the time line that was a given until a few weeks ago, and a few minutes later, Blizzard had released a new version of the time line, one you are probably aware of, probably on purpose.
http://www.diablofans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14611
For the third question, Inarius has two given background stories, not necessarily contradicting as I have suggested in the past, but most presumably are.
The old one, which ends with Inarius being deformed and imprisoned in a hall of mirrors, and the new one, given with the new Sin War trilogy which establishes the lore of the game, in which he was given to Mephisto and his fate is unknown.
As you can see, the composition of the old time line places the fall of Izual after the new story of Inarius and before the old story.
For the fourth question, in the Sin War trilogy it is revealed that when the world of Sanctuary was created buy the rouge Angels and Demons led Inarius, the Worldstone was created in order to conceal the existence of this new world from both Heaven and Hell.
At the beginning of the trilogy, the leaders of Hell is already aware of the existence of Sanctuary, and how they came to know about it is still unknown.
As the trilogy goes on, the leaders of Heaven also discover Sanctuary, this was probably the result of releasing an amount power too big that it could not have escaped the attention of Heaven even with the function of the Worldstone to conceal it.
- Everything you ever wanted to know about the lore of Diablo and never knew where to look (In construction).
Even Inarius in his world afraid to encounter Diablo.I think it's silly humans can defeat Diablo.I hope in DIII we will get help of some greater powers to defeat Diablo.
It does seem kind of silly though that humans can defeat someone like Diablo, but we never truly defeat him. Recently one of the devs said that 'defeating' the Three in Diablo II was just the tip of the iceberg.
And also remember that angels and demons lose much of their power while on Sanctuary.
[2] -1755 The events of the Sin War Trilogy. – 3000 years before the darkening of Tristram. (28)
(5) -480 The Sin War begins.
Those two dates confuse me. Does this mean the Sin War Trilogy is not part of the actual sin war where angels and demons vie for humans? Is the trilogy like a prequel to the actual event?