This guide helped me alot when i wanted to change build to something else after 200+ hours with tanking. I think its more fun to play as a range hero then the standard ww+tornado build nowadays, and iam killing stuff like never before
This is a vid of me killing diablo with range spec ->
Looking forward to open a can of woopass when the pvp patch comes
what do you guys think about the new the threehundrets spear?
It's probably really good as an offhand weapon if you roll a socket for crit hit damage. There's testing to be done to see how the damage applies (maybe it's not better than a weapon with socket + crit hit damage, some of the new high dps legendaries can get that).
But anyway I haven't seen all of them yet, I know some are just plain broken but I'm not sure about weapons. It does look really good and the movespeed will certainly help those with lower DPS. If it's not worth that much it's worth the pickup for beginners and possibly the best off hand weapon for the spec.
Some of the new legendaries can get 1300 dps and those weapons might just outclass the spear even with the skill bonuses.
I certainly don't have enough gold to buy some and check right now but if some1 has feedback or numbers it would help others..
All I know is: -4 fury cost on belt, -5 fury cost on Stone of Jordan + IK set and you can throw forever, even if you had 0% crit. Which means you can instantly change Battle Rage: Into the Fray to Battle Rage: Marauder.
I'm not playing Diablo 3 at all though, so that's just purely from reading patch notes.
I have one, but haven't "tested" it against my old OH, but it looks to have increased my dmg pretty good. If you're going to get one though, make sure to pick up one with at least 40% Weapon throw dmg and crit dmg/socket, and of course highest dps one you can afford.
been trying new builds with my shiny, fresh barb since i got her to inferno. did the usual frenzy/revenge build to get to inferno, but needed something more. Thought i would try the WW build, but i didnt really like it. So, i read this 2 days ago and i have been tweaking my build to what i like. Have beaten butcher and belial while farming with her. My current setup works really well, i have 39.5%CHC and 280%CHD after skill bonuses. I do also farm with a different offhand around 850 dps, but use the current offhand for LOH on bosses. I got a lot of gear upgrades to do once i farm enough gold again, any gear recommendations will be taken into consideration. Here's my current build:
I added threatening shout because i can pop war cry with 60 fury rune, then pop TS with treasure dropping rune and i'm good to go. I got leap for the added armor/maneuverability if needed, and furious charge for maneuverablily also and for fury generation. Its a decent build for beginners/mid-level inferno gear and i'm sure it will be decent in act 3 once i get my gear up. I initially started with the skills on the OP's first post, but i was never using WotB so i replaced it. And i've never used Ancient spear, so i didnt adapt very well, but this build was pretty good. and i can always put WotB back in place of Furious Charge if needed.
Prior to 1.04 I had been stuck farming Act 2. Had been looking out for an affordable -5 WT belt in order to give throwing a shot. Found one the night before 1.04 hit, so I bought it and gave the WT build a whirl. Really liked it, bought a Three Hundredth spear after 1.04 and made it up to Diablo, IN MY FARMING GEAR. Upgraded my MH yesterday and finally beat Diablo, in my farming gear... (I think that's kinda funny...)
For farming/group play I like http://us.battle.net...PkRi!ZYf!ZZccYb but to take Diablo down I changed Ricochet to Mighty Throw and Into the Fray to Mauraders Rage.
Thanks to all for the inspiration, my Barb feels like a totally different class now.
This guide helped me alot when i wanted to change build to something else after 200+ hours with tanking. I think its more fun to play as a range hero then the standard ww+tornado build nowadays, and iam killing stuff like never before
This is a vid of me killing diablo with range spec ->
Looking forward to open a can of woopass when the pvp patch comes
Yesterday I found Mara's amulet with -4 to Weapon Throw and decided to try the spec. Here is how it went:
Normally I play sword and board barbarian, 70k dps, over 1000 on all resistances, 10k armor. This allows me to destroy A3 with no deaths and in good time. Is not like I was forced to try this spec by low budget or whatever. For that reason I think that my opinion about the ranged barbarian will be very objective.
I started from going to AH and buying a belt with -5 WT reduction. Belt plus amulet reduced my throw cost to 1 fury. From this point I started to experiment with the different talent setups. My findings about talents:
Weapon Throw - I had dilemma between rune choice. Mighty Throw vs Ricochet. After a bit of play I can certainly say that Ricochet is much more useful, especially when you fight big pack of monsters. It will slow down many monsters and sometimes you can just spam your throw into the room blindly and see damage numbers flying.
War Cry - As I found out during the play, Impunity rune was quite useless. At this point I still had about 800 res all unbuffed so it was easy decision to make and go for a Charge! instead. 60 fury topup with WT costing 1 fury is... you know.
Battle Rage - Started of course with Into The Fray rune but I found out it very quickly that it wasn't really necessary and because No Escape passive kept my rage at full most of the time. In final setup Battle Rage was set with Marauder's Rage Rune for more dps.
Sprint - Run Like a Wind - I found out that I have so much furry at all times that sprint came really handy for getting out of trouble plus tornadoes itself can be handy. I tried different talents instead of this one, like Leap or charge but sprint worked the best. Of course you have to keep an eye on your fury when you're using it but in case of trouble you can always go back to Into the Fray and it shouldn't be a problem anymore.
WOTB - I took this talent because it was a bit annoying to kite some elites for longer period of time. It was enough to down most of the elites before the duration ended. I bet you could experiment with Thrive on Chaos but I just went for Insanity ... and killed myself in 0.5 second by 400k crits on reflect damage mobs
Passives: of course No Escape - but I also tried Unforgiving - quite the same effect but No Escape gives you a small damage boost. Besides No Escape passive I went for other DPS ones - Weapon Master and Ruthless.
Before I talk about weapon choice I have to mention about the problems I encountered because they are connected to my choice.
My normal Sword and Board style is quite strange maybe because I have 0 life steal and 0 life on hit. My normal health regeneration methods were revenge, charge and ignore pain and I never needed anything else. Now in ranged spec when I was forced to stay away from the mobs my health regeneration was close to zero. I tried a 2 hander with some life on hit and life steal on it but I found it to be way too slow. Having my normal sword plus shield let me stand more hits but it didn't change much. I looked around and came to this:
Dual wield - seems like the way to go. I kept my 1100+ DPS sword in the main hand and got interesting offhand from AH. I bought 300'th spear. Not much DPS, just 610 but it had some strength and +650 LOH. Besides +12% Movement speed from it with addition to 12% on the boots made me feel like I fly and was able to avoid most of the ranged attacks. What is most noticeable about this weapon though is +50% Increase to WT Damage! Yes it is really noticeable. So finally I landed with this in my offhand and I could totally spam WT at the speed rate of 1.88 per second. It just gave me a perfect synergy with the spec.
I had my friend watching my experiments and we just loled seeing how everything dies as soon as you see a bit of it's shadow on the edge of the screen. Blindly spamming into the rooms etc. You can even easily out-range ranged mobs! Same way you are able to out-range vortex mobs etc.
Well. It was just ridiculous... so I took it further. As nothing was touching me anymore I just went to AH and spend like 300k buying off Max DPS gear I could find. No resistances, no vitality, whatever gave me more dps I took it. I ended up having 25k HP, 150 resists and about 80k dps. Using this gear I went through full A3 laughing non stop, drinking beer and chatting with my friend.
Summarizing... the game is broken. I know you can say it's just clever usage of game mechanics, but it is big flaw in the game design to allow for something like this. If I compare the value of the gear needed to play this spec with my sword and board gear value it's just silly. Yes, you have to spend some gold/money to buy belt and one of those: Mara's Kaleidoskope, Skull Grasp or Stone of Jordan with -4 or -5 weapon throw cost, but then all the rest is pure glass cannon gear.
What's unfortunate maybe, I wont be playing this spec. Clearing the act takes about the same time as my normal runs. Difference for me is just pure boredom of spamming the same attack to the outside of the screen and hear mobs dying there. It just feels bad and broken. Not my style. I play barbarian to get in there and share my bad breath with my enemy, smashing skulls, breaking bones... same reason why I just hate tornado spec.
Coming to an end, if someone don't mind this game play and wants to lol through A3 like it's nothing, I will be selling this set:
The Three Hundredth Spear:
610.8 DPS, +121 Strength, +653 LoH, +12% movement speed, -4% melee damage reduction, +44% dmg to Ancient Spear, +50% dmg to Weapon Throw
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1) The Three Hundredth Spear + Socket is desirable
2) Belt with -5 Fury Cost for Weapon Throw + 3.00 Lifesteal is desirable
3) The Passives Ruthless, No Escape & Bloodthrist
4) It would also be desirable for your crit to be around 32% and crit hit damge 200% and above.
Strengths of the Bulid
*Doing Similar or more damage than a barb with dualwielding or using a 2hander but having the survivability of a tank spec. It is equally as fast due to the movement speed on weapon and aoe experience gain from Weapon Throw rune Dread Bomb.
* Its cheap to gear up and the gear / playstyle is probably useful when pvp comes out.
How does it work
Basically it shares the same concept as WOW warrior class when you execute mobs.Bash with instigation generates 12 per hit, you throw weapon for 5 fury. you can also gain fury from War Cry + Ancient Spear
How do you heal
Life steal due to huge aoe damage from Dread Bomb + weapons skill damage bonus
Ancient Spear - Dread Spear rune heals for 60% dmg + Passive No Escape resets cooldown if crits.
This is my current ranged barb. Can someone take a look and tell me what gear I should try and improve? Would greatly apperciate it thanks!
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This is a great thread, really enjoying it. I wanted to share 2 shows I have done over on RTG about the Weapon Throw Barb, as that is what I almost exclusively play and have been extremely successful with, as have many who viewed the shows and tried it all out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzoV4Pi9e6A&feature=youtu.be
This guide helped me alot when i wanted to change build to something else after 200+ hours with tanking. I think its more fun to play as a range hero then the standard ww+tornado build nowadays, and iam killing stuff like never before
This is a vid of me killing diablo with range spec ->
Looking forward to open a can of woopass when the pvp patch comes
cheers
It's probably really good as an offhand weapon if you roll a socket for crit hit damage. There's testing to be done to see how the damage applies (maybe it's not better than a weapon with socket + crit hit damage, some of the new high dps legendaries can get that).
But anyway I haven't seen all of them yet, I know some are just plain broken but I'm not sure about weapons. It does look really good and the movespeed will certainly help those with lower DPS. If it's not worth that much it's worth the pickup for beginners and possibly the best off hand weapon for the spec.
Some of the new legendaries can get 1300 dps and those weapons might just outclass the spear even with the skill bonuses.
I certainly don't have enough gold to buy some and check right now but if some1 has feedback or numbers it would help others..
It seems like 5 pieces IK could be pretty good.. Although I don't really know I haven't been playing, all the legendaries are BiS now it feels like
I'm not playing Diablo 3 at all though, so that's just purely from reading patch notes.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/heavymetal-1322/hero/24516238
I added threatening shout because i can pop war cry with 60 fury rune, then pop TS with treasure dropping rune and i'm good to go. I got leap for the added armor/maneuverability if needed, and furious charge for maneuverablily also and for fury generation. Its a decent build for beginners/mid-level inferno gear and i'm sure it will be decent in act 3 once i get my gear up. I initially started with the skills on the OP's first post, but i was never using WotB so i replaced it. And i've never used Ancient spear, so i didnt adapt very well, but this build was pretty good. and i can always put WotB back in place of Furious Charge if needed.
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For farming/group play I like http://us.battle.net...PkRi!ZYf!ZZccYb but to take Diablo down I changed Ricochet to Mighty Throw and Into the Fray to Mauraders Rage.
Thanks to all for the inspiration, my Barb feels like a totally different class now.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Danthrax-1646/hero/18573427
New vids with some of my new 1.04 gear
and
PS.
Still looking forward to the pvp patch
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Yep, seems like the right way to do it with the new reduced cost items it's pretty stupid not gonna lie.
What you need to make this bulid work
1) The Three Hundredth Spear + Socket is desirable
2) Belt with -5 Fury Cost for Weapon Throw + 3.00 Lifesteal is desirable
3) The Passives Ruthless, No Escape & Bloodthrist
4) It would also be desirable for your crit to be around 32% and crit hit damge 200% and above.
Strengths of the Bulid
*Doing Similar or more damage than a barb with dualwielding or using a 2hander but having the survivability of a tank spec. It is equally as fast due to the movement speed on weapon and aoe experience gain from Weapon Throw rune Dread Bomb.
* Its cheap to gear up and the gear / playstyle is probably useful when pvp comes out.
How does it work
Basically it shares the same concept as WOW warrior class when you execute mobs.Bash with instigation generates 12 per hit, you throw weapon for 5 fury. you can also gain fury from War Cry + Ancient Spear
How do you heal
Life steal due to huge aoe damage from Dread Bomb + weapons skill damage bonus
Ancient Spear - Dread Spear rune heals for 60% dmg + Passive No Escape resets cooldown if crits.
https://us.battle.ne...0/hero/10690286
This is my current ranged barb. Can someone take a look and tell me what gear I should try and improve? Would greatly apperciate it thanks!
If you want to arrange it
This world you can change it
If we could somehow make this
Christmas thing last
By helping a neighbor
Or even a stranger
And to know who needs help
You need only just ask
This is a great thread, really enjoying it. I wanted to share 2 shows I have done over on RTG about the Weapon Throw Barb, as that is what I almost exclusively play and have been extremely successful with, as have many who viewed the shows and tried it all out.
The main channel is: www.youtube.com/redteamgaming
Where we have lots of D3 shows.
The Weapon throw builds are here:
First One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_oF8SwdWhI
This is a general WT build useable by anyone.
Second One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0gkFxiiDZ4
This is a more advanced build to aim for.
I hope you guys find these helpful, I am available in the channel comments and email to answer any questions. See you there.
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