Imagine you're a car company many years ago. All of your cars have manual windows. Your main rival car company invents in a new technology - power windows. Their sales sky-rocket, and power-windows began to become a common feature, because it offers something consumers want. Do you adopt this technology?
How many musical artists have been influenced by other cross-genre artists with a totally different fanbase? A lot.
I want Diablo 3 to have a distinct Diablo 3 style, a distinct Diablo 3 look, and have distinct Diablo 3 gameplay. But the fact of the matter is, there are certain core things that were developed or polished in WoW that can be applied to help improve the general balance and "smoothness" of any rpgish game.
Most importantly, I think we should have a little faith in Blizz. I think they're aware we don't want a DiabWoW.
I'm all for free discussion, but this has gone over so many times I'm ready to say there's a zero percent chance of anything new coming out of it all, or even anything that isn't going to be a heaping pile of flaming and trolling.
This should be deleted as it is for no other reason than the fact it's been discussed dozens of times already. This is the archetypal example of a spammy repeat thread.
I'm all for free discussion, but this has gone over so many times I'm ready to say there's a zero percent chance of anything new coming out of it all, or even anything that isn't going to be a heaping pile of flaming and trolling.
This should be deleted as it is for no other reason than the fact it's been discussed dozens of times already. This is the archetypal example of a spammy repeat thread.
And we're off.
On topic(kinda): Anyway... ughh I don't care it's Diablo 3 for christ sake.
I'm still wondering why people think this is an issue. I mean you've all seen the fucking gameplay vids and demos. Where are we getting WoW from it. Now if we saw elves, dwarves, and cartoon shaped characters running around with no ominous look to it once so ever, I would be more concerned. But the stuff I've seen is pretty solid Diablo material.
A very important detail to keep in mind is that what produces goods are not copanies, but the people who works there.
Many people who made D1 and D2 do not work on Blizzard anymore. Alot of the team changed and thats why naturally alot of the game will change.
Put yourself in their place. Imagine yourself doing WoW 2. Would you change it as you like or would you keep everything the same just because the old fanbase want ? Really, how frustrating is have to change your work just to please someone else's opnion ?
They are just making the game that they think it's good and they will keep doing like that. Feedback is much less important then many forum users think.
Imagine you're a car company many years ago. All of your cars have manual windows. Your main rival car company invents in a new technology - power windows. Their sales sky-rocket, and power-windows began to become a common feature, because it offers something consumers want. Do you adopt this technology?
How many musical artists have been influenced by other cross-genre artists with a totally different fanbase? A lot.
I want Diablo 3 to have a distinct Diablo 3 style, a distinct Diablo 3 look, and have distinct Diablo 3 gameplay. But the fact of the matter is, there are certain core things that were developed or polished in WoW that can be applied to help improve the general balance and "smoothness" of any rpgish game.
Most importantly, I think we should have a little faith in Blizz. I think they're aware we don't want a DiabWoW.
Till next time
i totally agree, actually wow has many diablo components, like even some skills, totally diablo based.
there some great stuff in wow, like the whole end game fun.
but i don't like wow, i feel like a Peon (specially if i'm a orc, lol) working hard everyday just to get some fun in the end and loosing most of my time to it.
but every now and then i feel like playing again wow, then i get there, play 3 hours, and i'm bored. too slow...
d2 i play 3 hours, and i want more.
i love the chaos in CS when you get in the middle of everybody, are just spamming pots, and clicking everything and almost yelling.
I think it's fairly clear that they expect to maintain the same ferocious slaughterfest that Diablo has always been. As long as they don't fall into the pit of anime style models that they did with WoW I think we'll be okay.
I don't want to see retarded weapons where swords are twice as tall and half as wide as the guy wielding it... or shoulder pads that make you look like you intend to jump off the barn roof and fly... and wrists wider than your face? What did they do? See how many different drugs they could jam in the same pipe?
Any developer who even suggests such modeling should be taken out back and shot.
I think it's fairly clear that they expect to maintain the same ferocious slaughterfest that Diablo has always been. As long as they don't fall into the pit of anime style models that they did with WoW I think we'll be okay.
I don't want to see retarded weapons where swords are twice as tall and half as wide as the guy wielding it... or shoulder pads that make you look like you intend to jump off the barn roof and fly... and wrists wider than your face? What did they do? See how many different drugs they could jam in the same pipe?
Any developer who even suggests such modeling should be taken out back and shot.
:thumbsup:
lol nice point.
although i think it's funny the wow's weapons and armor style, (not the chars and the colors) it really wouln't suit verywell d3.
need more slaughterfest... with normal shoulder pads...
They never changed, never had much radio play, but still had success and are still thriving and are most importantly, themselves.
Never sellout for $$.
Side note: Saw Slayer this summer. Very talented musicians.
On Topic: Blizzard has improved the tools that a player can use in-game to keep in touch and communicate with "Friends" from the time of D2 to that of WoW. I wouldn't mind seeing some of that kind of stuff implemented in D3. I hope I'm not alone in feeling like it's a lot easier to link a piece of equipment in chat instead of having to type out every stat that is on it... And if they can make a stable economy based on some type of currency, I wouldn't mind using an auction house so I can spend more time killing stuff and less time trying to orchestrate trades...
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All science is either physics or stamp collecting.
- Ernest Rutherford
Imagine you're a car company many years ago. All of your cars have manual windows. Your main rival car company invents in a new technology - power windows. Their sales sky-rocket, and power-windows began to become a common feature, because it offers something consumers want. Do you adopt this technology?
How many musical artists have been influenced by other cross-genre artists with a totally different fanbase? A lot.
I want Diablo 3 to have a distinct Diablo 3 style, a distinct Diablo 3 look, and have distinct Diablo 3 gameplay. But the fact of the matter is, there are certain core things that were developed or polished in WoW that can be applied to help improve the general balance and "smoothness" of any rpgish game.
Most importantly, I think we should have a little faith in Blizz. I think they're aware we don't want a DiabWoW.
Till next time
I made a thread like this and it got deleted within an hour, why?
What happened to freedom of speech? I made fairly good points, if you don't like what were saying don't read it. I'm still mad because i didn't even receive a notice as to why it was deleted, it just vanished.
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Working with adobe and/or java is like pushing a paper clip against a building and expecting it to move...
I made a thread like this and it got deleted within an hour, why?
What happened to freedom of speech?
HA! YES! Freedom of speech. I just LOVE when people bring it up on forums. Leave me the pleasure to tell you that your freedom of speech is meaningless here. It actually doesn't mean -that- much in many places. You are in a forum, place that belongs to certain people. These people can do absolutely anything they wish with you. This forum is granting you its services allowing you to speak with the community.
You have absolutely no freedom of speech here, and anyone can shut you down to hell no matter what you say, and there is nothing you can do about it.
Sorry, but I had to say it. I don't want to hear "freedom of speech" again.
This once again saddens my heart that people just keep seeing WoW in Diablo. If you see WoW in D3 then what your saying is you see D2 in D3. Wow took it's shit from D2.... Which pretty uch means wow is d2 that looks like a cartoon and sitty monsters better economy and more players. So have fun comparing your favorite game to your most hated one cause they're eseentially just like eachother. Cause according to you people apparently having a more 3d cartoony animated feel to a game that btw looks noting like wow resembles it therefore it is a wow copy... So wow is really a d2 copy by your standards and therefore d3 is like d2. has anyone actually thought of this cause i for one have and it makes sense and the games just fine stop complaining trolling flaming the game for the way it looks. It scoming an dif you dont like it shut the fuck up and leave dont complain and complain just delete the thread ive seen more than fifty wow complaint threads before its just annoying that people see that game in d3 and then complain shitloads pages upon pages of it.
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Not even Death will save you from Diablo Bunny's Cuteness!
WOW looks like GARBAGE!!! its a dumb dried out game that won't last after the expansion has been milked! The insane graphics in DIABLO 3 look many times superior than WOW (which has graphics compared to N64)..i wish WOW would just step the hell aside and let diablo 3 shine brighter than ever!!!
I made a thread like this and it got deleted within an hour, why?
What happened to freedom of speech? I made fairly good points, if you don't like what were saying don't read it. I'm still mad because i didn't even receive a notice as to why it was deleted, it just vanished.
i was gpnna reply to this but SFJake already did in a very good way.
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HA! YES! Freedom of speech. I just LOVE when people bring it up on forums. Leave me the pleasure to tell you that your freedom of speech is meaningless here. It actually doesn't mean -that- much in many places. You are in a forum, place that belongs to certain people. These people can do absolutely anything they wish with you. This forum is granting you its services allowing you to speak with the community.
You have absolutely no freedom of speech here, and anyone can shut you down to hell no matter what you say, and there is nothing you can do about it.
Sorry, but I had to say it. I don't want to hear "freedom of speech" again.
just to add there is no such thing as "freedom of speech" even IRL.
having 'freedom of speech" means that you can say whatever you like and there is no consequence
can you do that IRL of course not, you say something untrue and you can be sued for slander, you say something inappropriate and you can be sued for a multitude of things (depending on what you say) from sexist-based or racially-based lawsuits etc.
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How many musical artists have been influenced by other cross-genre artists with a totally different fanbase? A lot.
I want Diablo 3 to have a distinct Diablo 3 style, a distinct Diablo 3 look, and have distinct Diablo 3 gameplay. But the fact of the matter is, there are certain core things that were developed or polished in WoW that can be applied to help improve the general balance and "smoothness" of any rpgish game.
Most importantly, I think we should have a little faith in Blizz. I think they're aware we don't want a DiabWoW.
Till next time
Carry on
I'm all for free discussion, but this has gone over so many times I'm ready to say there's a zero percent chance of anything new coming out of it all, or even anything that isn't going to be a heaping pile of flaming and trolling.
This should be deleted as it is for no other reason than the fact it's been discussed dozens of times already. This is the archetypal example of a spammy repeat thread.
And we're off.
On topic(kinda): Anyway... ughh I don't care it's Diablo 3 for christ sake.
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
I also agree...
I am hopeful that Diablo 3 will set some new standards and include features that we've never seen in any other games as well...
- Ernest Rutherford
Many people who made D1 and D2 do not work on Blizzard anymore. Alot of the team changed and thats why naturally alot of the game will change.
Put yourself in their place. Imagine yourself doing WoW 2. Would you change it as you like or would you keep everything the same just because the old fanbase want ? Really, how frustrating is have to change your work just to please someone else's opnion ?
They are just making the game that they think it's good and they will keep doing like that. Feedback is much less important then many forum users think.
i totally agree, actually wow has many diablo components, like even some skills, totally diablo based.
there some great stuff in wow, like the whole end game fun.
but i don't like wow, i feel like a Peon (specially if i'm a orc, lol) working hard everyday just to get some fun in the end and loosing most of my time to it.
but every now and then i feel like playing again wow, then i get there, play 3 hours, and i'm bored. too slow...
d2 i play 3 hours, and i want more.
i love the chaos in CS when you get in the middle of everybody, are just spamming pots, and clicking everything and almost yelling.
I don't want to see retarded weapons where swords are twice as tall and half as wide as the guy wielding it... or shoulder pads that make you look like you intend to jump off the barn roof and fly... and wrists wider than your face? What did they do? See how many different drugs they could jam in the same pipe?
Any developer who even suggests such modeling should be taken out back and shot.
:thumbsup:
lol nice point.
although i think it's funny the wow's weapons and armor style, (not the chars and the colors) it really wouln't suit verywell d3.
need more slaughterfest... with normal shoulder pads...
SLAYER the band hopefully = D3
They never changed, never had much radio play, but still had success and are still thriving and are most importantly, themselves.
Never sellout for $$.
Side note: Saw Slayer this summer. Very talented musicians.
On Topic: Blizzard has improved the tools that a player can use in-game to keep in touch and communicate with "Friends" from the time of D2 to that of WoW. I wouldn't mind seeing some of that kind of stuff implemented in D3. I hope I'm not alone in feeling like it's a lot easier to link a piece of equipment in chat instead of having to type out every stat that is on it... And if they can make a stable economy based on some type of currency, I wouldn't mind using an auction house so I can spend more time killing stuff and less time trying to orchestrate trades...
- Ernest Rutherford
I made a thread like this and it got deleted within an hour, why?
What happened to freedom of speech? I made fairly good points, if you don't like what were saying don't read it. I'm still mad because i didn't even receive a notice as to why it was deleted, it just vanished.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
HA! YES! Freedom of speech. I just LOVE when people bring it up on forums. Leave me the pleasure to tell you that your freedom of speech is meaningless here. It actually doesn't mean -that- much in many places. You are in a forum, place that belongs to certain people. These people can do absolutely anything they wish with you. This forum is granting you its services allowing you to speak with the community.
You have absolutely no freedom of speech here, and anyone can shut you down to hell no matter what you say, and there is nothing you can do about it.
Sorry, but I had to say it. I don't want to hear "freedom of speech" again.
i was gpnna reply to this but SFJake already did in a very good way.
just to add there is no such thing as "freedom of speech" even IRL.
having 'freedom of speech" means that you can say whatever you like and there is no consequence
can you do that IRL of course not, you say something untrue and you can be sued for slander, you say something inappropriate and you can be sued for a multitude of things (depending on what you say) from sexist-based or racially-based lawsuits etc.