And again, it's not just about implementing it into the game, but how the effects of it being implemented effect other aspects of the game.
Yes, some designs may be easy to implement, but aren't necessarily something they should do without thinking about the repercussions.
Honestly, this couldn't be stated enough. So many people love commenting on how simple a change in the game would be while only looking at it from one perspective and completely overlooking how it may effect anything else in the game.
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As programmer, I know they can do changes only for 70 (check x, check req, check lvl, apply only to certain type, etc).
Can be like new changes for experience gear (instance: Leoric's Signet that has max 3% at lvl 70).
You may think you know how the program but you sure don't know how to design.
Obviously it's not going to happen, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't attempt to inform others of the situation in order to improve the feedback provided. I'm not expecting this from everyone, but more so from people who read this forum for instance. Even only motivating a handful of people to actually provide constructive feedback is a hell of a lot better than just ignoring the issue of people being completely nonconstructive. Just because people can easily leave feedback that's completely useless doesn't mean we should leave it at that when just one person providing insight can be the difference.
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I've seen it too much in WoW and it continues with D3 because the CMs are typically less informative with D3. Far too many people bitch and moan with useless feedback that wastes their time. So as I said, complaining is useless when it's not constructive and the majority of people could do a much better job at providing constructive feedback to the devs. Telling them nothing more than that it's bad or not fun and they need to improve it is completely useless.
Your expectations of people are set to high my friend. Getting constructive feedback from everyone would be ideal but its just never gonna happen. My point is that 100 people saying something is wrong (said constructively or not) is better than 10 people saying something is wrong and it being set on the back burner because the issue didn't seem important. So while it may seem useless to only say " I am not happy with this feature." it is another voice drawing attention to the problem and letting the devs know that more than 10 people have an issue. Hopefully moving a fix up on the priority list.
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So, yes you are right that people bitch about features in the game with no solution on how to fix it. Not everyone is gonna have a solution! But, their complaints still need to be heard or how would Blizz know that the activity/feature needs improved. Most of the time everything has already been said in previous posts. So repeating the the prob isn't necessary but voicing that you agree with the matter at hand is. Telling others they shouldn't voice their opinions if they cant offer a solution is gonna do nothing but delay a fix because the prob may not even end up on the radar if nothing is said. Regardless of whether a solution is given or not. Letting it be known that a feature of the game is not fun or needs fixed IS necessary feedback.
Let me clarify. Complaints are only so good to them when they actually provide information to them that can solve the problem. Bitching and moaning about features or changes does nothing. Explaining to them why you're bitching and moaning does.
As well, I'm not telling people that they can't voice their opinions. Not at all. Just that when they do they should be mindful of what information can actually help Blizzard. Saying something sucks or that it needs to be fixed is completely useless to them. Explaining why it needs to be fixed, not even providing a solution to the problem, but simply why it's a problem for you goes a lot further.
I've seen it too much in WoW and it continues with D3 because the CMs are typically less informative with D3. Far too many people bitch and moan with useless feedback that wastes their time. So as I said, complaining is useless when it's not constructive and the majority of people could do a much better job at providing constructive feedback to the devs. Telling them nothing more than that it's bad or not fun and they need to improve it is completely useless.
The problem with this concept that Blizzard is responsible for fixing problems addressed by the community is that it's not as simple as you make it out to be. Just because it's their job to improve the game doesn't mean they'll be able to simply come up with a better solution to appease players. WoW has had this issue for years, where players bitch and moan about features and changes made with practically zero feedback as to how to improve upon it or even why they're upset. Furthermore, people as well can't look outside of their personal experiences and preferences when it comes to changes and blindly assume that all players play the game the way they choose to. So saying that it's their job and they should figure it out is pretty damn worthless feedback.
his way to fix this is remove op dmg buff from those items as he said in video, in my opinion - blizz should fix this in their own way, we (Quin) show them the possible issue and that is already enough for me, i dont have great idea how to fix it but.. this is not my or Quins job (or other players)
If some1 comes here with a great way how to fix it - nice but it will be still blizz job, Quin as a player already did good thing talking about that issue. and we are here cuz that can be big problem for players who looking for fun, not more numbers
Some1 can say - "if you are looking for fun so big numbers and %dmg on items is not your problem, u can wear something else"
but for some ppl fun is also pushing high ranks and to get that high ranks we are forced to wear that "broken" items
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Or, you know, it could mean there's limited time to cover all the games as much as people would want. Especially since the majority of this Blizzcon is obviously about tournaments and not coverage of the games. For instance, Hearthstone getting a content patch next week with only one panel discussing content for a game that's likely their most popular by far.
Seriously, at this point people are just looking for reasons to complain.
no, just no. hearthstone may have one panel for the content, but atleast the get content (you have to pay for) and blizzard gets revenue (which they need to justify dev time). diablo gets QoL changes, fotm set buffing, sescheron-esque zones (in that you won't see them that much after you are done with them) and no real (good) things about proper inventory management, botting or anything that doesn't let the game look like red-headed stepchild it has become.
an 18 year old franchise gets shafted everywhere you look and you have the nerves to tell us that we are looking for reasons to complain. what should we do instead? open our mouth for the crap BITS they feed us?
When I say people are looking for reasons to complain it's not implying that they don't have reason enough already to complain. That's kind of my point really. There's already plenty to be upset about for this game, and I can understand that, but to complain about coverage during Blizzcon of a franchise that's likely the least popular of all of their franchises during a convention that's obviously prioritizing esports over everything else is a bit ridiculous.
You're misunderstanding my Hearthstone point as well. Hearthstone, their most popular franchise that's getting content in less than a week that wasn't announced until yesterday is getting two panels, and only one of them is dedicated to talking about that new content. Hence proving my point that this entire convention isn't focused on discussing the games but rather esports. So complaining that Diablo 3 isn't being covered enough during Blizzcon when it's got as much time dedicated to itself discussing minor updates compared to their most popular game that's getting a major content update is stupid.
There's plenty of reasons to be upset about this franchise, but digging for reasons like not enough Blizzcon coverage is a waste of time.
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The fact that it only had one panel whereas every other Blizzard product has two or more gave me the impression that nothing ground breaking would come out of Blizzcon when they first showed the list. Just more fluff which will have the lasting appeal of an apple left on the counter.
Move along, nothing to see here...
Or, you know, it could mean there's limited time to cover all the games as much as people would want. Especially since the majority of this Blizzcon is obviously about tournaments and not coverage of the games. For instance, Hearthstone getting a content patch next week with only one panel discussing content for a game that's likely their most popular by far.
Seriously, at this point people are just looking for reasons to complain.
Blizzard admins please go play path of exile and learn somthing
path of exile have not many items but game is fun to play and they bring big patches every month and bring new skills etc uniques bla bla
in diablo ? 6 months for a 30mb patch gg
simple diablo 3 was over after release there NO DEV TEAM yet to fix entire game
sry for my english but im so mad to blizzard , ever nvr gonna buy their games.
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Just to be clear, it sounds like they don't even have a secure online structure for consoles. Like any attempt at public game will just be a hackfest.
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I know you're trolling at this point, but I'll bite 'cause I'm honestly sick to death of hearing about the comparison of D3 to PoE and vice versa. In the end they're extremely different games on different ends of the action RPG game spectrum that truly can't be compared outside of the gameplay being similar - like all action RPGs.
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love both games to death and easily have hundreds of hours in both of them. But they can't be compared because they're designed for different styles of gameplay. D3 is the perfect game for the average gamer to login and play a few nights a week without having to concern themselves with much else. PoE provides a much more hardcore gamer atmosphere for those who crave it and has more longevity due to the design (not necessarily good design, mind you). Two very different games that can't be honestly compared when you look at it logically.
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Overall, it's just very unprofessionally done. Now, I know not everyone needs to have a professional manner during an interview, but I'm sorry if you're interviewing a Blizzard employee about a game that your website is dedicated to it should have been a lot better than that. This was more of the equivalent of them responding to random posts on their forums.
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They may very well have made plenty of money off the RMAH to sustain development of the game for years ahead, however they could very likely also have only made enough to sustain server maintenance and transaction fees. Unfortunately we don't know the financial details of the RMAH. The point is more that the majority of other major game companies don't do any sort of development for games after release where they aren't making additional revenue by some other means from the game. Hell, most don't even offer standard support, only releasing minimal patches to fix bugs. So I guess the question is, why is Blizzard being held to a ridiculous standard than everyone else when their standards are already higher than most everyone else?
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I admit I'm not the best at translating my opinion verbally, but I don't understand how you could be confused about what I said.
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I think people need to stop being so entitled. Blizzard supporting and developing content for a game that they basically no longer make money on until they release another expansion shouldn't be criticized until most other triple-A games are doing the exact same thing. Until then, complaints are unwarranted.
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To compare the content of PoE to D3 is completely illogical based upon the different business models the games use. Do you honestly think GGG creates content in PoE for free? They have to constantly create content in order to make money on the game otherwise they likely wouldn't even be able to afford the cost of maintenance of their servers.
I think another issue is also the fact that most other Blizzard games provide more content than D3, however those other games also make considerably more money for Blizzard to use on that development. D3 is the only current game they have that makes zero money after the initial sales purchase.
I actually agree that Diablo 3 information was pretty lack luster at this Blizzcon, but I also wasn't expecting much between a new WoW expansion being released in less than a week, the announcement of an expansion for SC2 and Hearthstone, and information on two new IPs they're creating. That on top of Diablo 3 having considerable development progression this year equates to D3 being the least interesting game at Blizzcon. Honestly, what were you really expecting them to announce?
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For future reference, someone else's immaturity or lack of respect doesn't and shouldn't validate your own. Personally, I think both you and your friend should be banned from this forum, and if saying that gets me banned it's worth it to me because people like yourself who complain with such closed-minded perspectives aren't worth having any sort of discussions with. Neither you nor your friend are willing to have a meaningful conversation with anyone who disagrees with you because we're all "too stupid" to understand your point of view.
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Long story short, you're letting your immaturity negate your own point of view.
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At this point this thread should just be closed if all it's going to come down to is name calling when someone presents an opposing opinion to your own.
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Focusing on GRifts for balance would be like focusing on Realm of Trials for balance. There may be only a few specs that work beyond a certain point, but that will always be the case and focusing on just one aspect of the end game while ignoring others will only lead to more imbalance. Focusing just on GRifts won't fix balance issues because GRifts will always have balance issues because they are the epitome of optimization when it comes to progress.