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    posted a message on Travis Day Interview by Diablo IncGamers
    Quote from oldschool_2o4f»
    I just said that.

    The fact that you paid for something does make you the customer, but you're limited at best to returning the product and trying to get your money back. This isn't a service where the "business" is apt to try and make the customer happy like a waiter, car salesman, or even your local congressman ( good luck with that one).

    If the product worked as intended at purchase, thank you, have a nice day. Now, we have all heard seen instances where this wasn't true and mostly things get corrected, but, point of sale, have a nice day otherwise.

    It's up to the company to solicit feedback, or provide an avenue for feedback submittal, or even so far as to hire someone to monitor social media now and keep an eye on feedback. But it's their decision to listen, their decision to be smart or not as to what the customer wants, and there are times when what the customer wants, due to unseen contraints isn't possible, or even a good idea. Is it their obligation to explain this? Debatable at best.

    Even so ,I've seen attempts at explanations and blatant disregard for the attempt to the effect of why ever would they try to do so again?

    I'm rambling. Easiest statement is simply there are minimally two sides to almost anything and if you can only see one, it isn't a very promising conversation.
    I like to think I'm pretty open minded when it comes to discussions. My point on entitlement was more directed at the notion as though someone has earned the right to have the developers listen to them just because they purchased a game, or because they have spent so much time in a game. That in itself is extremely closed minded and an issue a lot of people have when it comes to Blizzard because frankly, we're pretty spoiled when it comes to their development of games after release. Just because Blizzard practices this doesn't mean we've earned it, nor does it me we're entitled to it.
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    posted a message on Travis Day Interview by Diablo IncGamers
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    Quote from ruksak»
    Whoever did this interview was extremely disrespectful. Doubt this clown will ever be granted another interview. I was actually shocked at how snarky and disrespectful he was during almost every question. Sounded more like one of the brooding, angst ridden Bnet forum posters than anything close to a journalist. Just ....wow at the amateur bullshit this guy pulled.
    I'm honestly not seeing it. The crack he made about Barbarians may have been a tad rude, but it's not over the line. Moving RRoG to act 5 was a pretty ridiculous suggestion though. That one I will concede.
    I think it's clear the interviewer didn't intend to be disrespectful, but when you consider who he's talking to and what he's asking it really is in some cases. It's mostly in how he asks the questions. Instead of asking something along the lines of "Have you considered doing X" he goes about saying you should try this. Or asking "Have you planned to do X to fix Y" instead of "How do you plan to fix Y". His final question is especially rude and sounds like something an average player would ask without any information on the subject. He either over explains his questions with useless information, or asks overly specific questions that don't allow much conversation - or even worse, get the same answers we've heard before.

    Overall, it's just very unprofessionally done. Now, I know not everyone needs to have a professional manner during an interview, but I'm sorry if you're interviewing a Blizzard employee about a game that your website is dedicated to it should have been a lot better than that. This was more of the equivalent of them responding to random posts on their forums.
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    posted a message on This blizzcon...
    How so? People were complaining about a lack of new information on D3 at Blizzcon. I countered saying they've already done a considerable amount of work on it this year despite it being their only franchise that currently makes no money after initial sales of the game. Implying that peoples' expectations of content may be skewed due to comparing D3's development to other Blizzard games, such as WoW, which is an inferior comparison.

    I admit I'm not the best at translating my opinion verbally, but I don't understand how you could be confused about what I said.
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    posted a message on This blizzcon...
    Quote from Gallows»
    What worried me the most was that it almost looked like the devs that represented Diablo on stage looked like they almost didn't care that much it looked like they didn't rehearse anything and all we got were some new empty promises.

    Also I thought about people saying we payed only once for the game + maybe reaper of souls. What the hell?? Isn't that enough for atleast a few years of big support for the game? Are we in a time and age that everything has to be 12 euro's per month to get anything extra for your game you bought? I think we are taking a turn for the worse if we start to think this way. I payed 80 euros in total for this game, so yeah I have some expectations is that so weird?
    Are you seriously asking whether people are entitled to more content after a game's release? The majority of game developers don't even consider this for their games. So yes, it is weird. 80 euros for what we've received so far of Diablo 3 is a fucking steal.

    I think people need to stop being so entitled. Blizzard supporting and developing content for a game that they basically no longer make money on until they release another expansion shouldn't be criticized until most other triple-A games are doing the exact same thing. Until then, complaints are unwarranted.
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    posted a message on This blizzcon...
    Quote from Mozu
    Quote from RiffSphereSo I would like to have more, but in the end we do get a good amount on top of a working product. Many games would charge money for those small additions. While I was hoping for more, I'm happy there was something they could talk about, as there is no expansion coming this year. (and yes, I'm a bit disappointed by blizzcon)

    Just don't look into everything PoE is doing for free.

    To compare the content of PoE to D3 is completely illogical based upon the different business models the games use. Do you honestly think GGG creates content in PoE for free? They have to constantly create content in order to make money on the game otherwise they likely wouldn't even be able to afford the cost of maintenance of their servers.

    I think another issue is also the fact that most other Blizzard games provide more content than D3, however those other games also make considerably more money for Blizzard to use on that development. D3 is the only current game they have that makes zero money after the initial sales purchase.

    I actually agree that Diablo 3 information was pretty lack luster at this Blizzcon, but I also wasn't expecting much between a new WoW expansion being released in less than a week, the announcement of an expansion for SC2 and Hearthstone, and information on two new IPs they're creating. That on top of Diablo 3 having considerable development progression this year equates to D3 being the least interesting game at Blizzcon. Honestly, what were you really expecting them to announce?
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    posted a message on Blizzard will lose their most experienced players and support base.
    Yes I have been following the thread, though honestly I'm not sure why. Dyz actually started out posting something similar to my own, pointing out how your immaturity may be a likely cause as to why you were removed from the Battle.net forums because instead of providing reasons as to why you're upset with the state of the game you instead chose to be more emotionally vocal about it with ridiculous comments - much like every other complaining thread on the forums that tends to get deleted. Your friend then proceeded to attempt to negate anyone disagreeing with you by basically calling them idiots and telling them they have no idea what they're talking about instead of actually providing arguments supporting both of your points of view.



    For future reference, someone else's immaturity or lack of respect doesn't and shouldn't validate your own. Personally, I think both you and your friend should be banned from this forum, and if saying that gets me banned it's worth it to me because people like yourself who complain with such closed-minded perspectives aren't worth having any sort of discussions with. Neither you nor your friend are willing to have a meaningful conversation with anyone who disagrees with you because we're all "too stupid" to understand your point of view.
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    posted a message on Blizzard will lose their most experienced players and support base.
    Quote from Hyperion1407

    GOD I feel so sorry for your wife and kids having to put up with your stupidity 24/7, if they stick around for the long haul they are saints!

    First off, where did I say people haven't "played enough to be good" or "played enough hours"? WTF is up with idiots always misquoting people? I guess they think that people might think they are smarter for doing that? IDK
    If you genuinely want a meaningful discussion on this you should really stop with the insults. It's really what will differentiate yourself from the countless complainers of the game that you can't have a serious discussion with because they're either too immature or too stupid to have a debate that doesn't resort to petty insults in order to get your point across.

    At this point this thread should just be closed if all it's going to come down to is name calling when someone presents an opposing opinion to your own.
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    posted a message on Blizzard will lose their most experienced players and support base.
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    Quote from ratmaz313

    you all take the fun out of games. Balance this...Fix that....do it or I leave. Then leave already! Stop crying and go. Blizzard already got your money! Sure I'm no hardcore player and not running 40+ lvl Grifts, but I have fun playing no matter what class I play. People say classes are broken..why? Do their moves not work? Is there no gear? no no no...let me guess one class does more dmg than another class. I think this is a trend with Blizzard players..just like in WoW people think they can cry and bitch enough so they "balance" the classes. That ruined WoW...shit why not D3 while you at it....or a better ideal try thinking outside the box or once and make the classes work for you.
    No the problem is. previous blizzard games were based off of quality over quantity and money.. That is the issue, now a days people are handed shit on a silver plate and they go, "Well at least it is on a silver plate." And they accept mediocre.... That is the problem blizzard is catering to people who just get on and casual play, what makes them the most "money" and that is fine to make money, but to spit in the face of every loyal customer from the beginning is bit much bull shit. I would say at least 80% of the people posting on this thread have no idea wtf they are talking about.
    This is where you lose credibility. Claiming that Blizzard is catering to casual players while you, the poor loyal customer, is being neglected only shows some sort of issue you have with them that is so deeply seeded that nothing you say can be taken seriously. I mean honestly, to say Blizzard spits in your face and anyone who disagrees is an idiot... what do you expect people to say to that?
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    posted a message on Blizzard will lose their most experienced players and support base.
    No offense, but it's pretty obvious why your post got deleted. You offer no insight as to how they can overcome their issues and are basically just complaining.
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    posted a message on Console Exclusives' Stats Fixed, Blue Posts, Open World is a Real Possibility
    Quote from Popnbake

    Quote from reclaimer3235

    Good lord, Not people like you again. Go away no1 likes you.


    How about coming up with an actual rebuttal to my point next time?

    Before Diablo 3 was released the developers actually had a focus on customization that can be
    seen with the past trait system but somewhere along the line everything was removed.

    Now a year later after release have they just started to put together plans on how to provide character
    customization.

    Blizzard is notorious in only providing content when they feel it's ready so for us to read that they
    are in the 'brainstorming' phase only means that it will take months before we see any progress.

    This is an action role-playing game and you don't see a problem with how they approached one of the main
    aspects of a genre that should have been in the game since day one?

    Not that you don't have a few points, but I think his issue is more that the cynicism of the 'fans' of this game is overwhelmingly annoying on a daily basis. I may be biased as an optimist, but seriously the amount of complaining any time they announce something they may be working on to improve the game is beyond me. Complaining is one thing, but bitching about every little thing they do is what it's come down to and is getting extremely old. Especially considering the type of player customization they're talking about, which isn't simple gear or skill customization but character customization, something action RPGs aren't actually known for.

    I'm not saying we should praise Blizzard by any means, but at least have some respect for the fact that they're at least trying. 99% of games out there wouldn't have half the development work that this game has had and continues to have after it's release. The fact that they're obviously trying to fix things in the game that players have issues with should be enough considering they technically don't have to do anything with the game once it's released, just like the majority of development on games out there.
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