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    posted a message on In-game language filter
    Wtf... getting booted for saying fuck?


    Dude, stop... just stop and pay attention to the game name, this is not kindergarten, and it's not about being mature either, grown-ups also say the F word you know.


    It's incredible... nowsdays everything is a reason to ruin other people entertainment, graphics ruins my entertainment, pk's ruins my entertainment, and now cursing ruins my entertainment, what's next?
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    posted a message on Reasons why PK should stay in D3. A detailed analysis (long)
    Quote from "Daemaro" »
    Probably, I honestly don't care much either way. It'd just be nice to see more freedom to play open games and not have PKs crash your party.


    By doing this pvp in D3 better be damn good, fun, and rewarding... as sanctuary is a much safer place now.


    btw diabloiii.net has a very interesting column, interview with a pk. I think it's worth reading.

    http://www.diii.net/columns/671461/bone-appetit-3
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    posted a message on Reasons why PK should stay in D3. A detailed analysis (long)
    Quote from "Daemaro" »
    Well all argument about PKing aside, that's the old developer, we have new ones now with a different vision in mind.

    Also we saw what happened with PvP/PKing in Hellgate: London so apparently they didn't stay true to themselves.




    I've never played hellgate: London, but that's not diablo, is it? :D


    I've been reading some of the old posts, aren't you guys taking this pk vs pvp discussion a little too serious?
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    posted a message on Reasons why PK should stay in D3. A detailed analysis (long)
    Quote from "Daemaro" »



    Isn't that the OLD developer...?


    Unfortunately, yes. But OathofChaos is talking about the diablo franchise, and since D3 is not out yet, well...
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    posted a message on Reasons why PK should stay in D3. A detailed analysis (long)
    Quote from "OathofChaos" »
    Now, that being said... if Blizzard created realms specifically designed for PvX specific gameplay... it would show that the "outliers" on the game scale aren't really outliers at all in Blizzard's Diablo franchise. And if that is the case, I will gladly apologize for my errors.

    Unfortunately, I have a hard time believing that the Diablo franchise was made with the PKers in mind.




    From the very first post of this thread.

    READ THIS:

    Originally Posted by Max Schaefer, Senior Designer of Blizzard North
    But we've decided that PKing is part of the Diablo universe. We are well aware that this does not please everyone. However, you are right: we are not apologetic about it. Not at all. Sure, we could implement a PK switch. It's a trivial coding task. But we wouldn't be being true to ourselves, and our goals as gamemakers.[/QUOTE]
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    posted a message on Reasons why PK should stay in D3. A detailed analysis (long)
    Quote from "LinkX" »




    One, PK runs actually do ruin runs. It happened to me before, as I said. People would follow runs and keep killing everyone, though usually it only took one, sometimes two run's being pk'ed before it was ruined and you had to look for a new run series. But that's truth...and truth is bad...

    Two, any problem that is in Diablo 2 should be fixed for Diablo three. If a problem causes grief in Diablo 2 then it only makes sense to fix the Diablo 3..




    I'm not saying it doesnt happen, i know it does, i've been there before(both getting ruined and ruining), what i said is it just doesnt happen in a very regular basis, at least not to the extent to be considered an issue in D3.
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    posted a message on Reasons why PK should stay in D3. A detailed analysis (long)
    Quote from "Daemaro" »
    Oh my pardons good sir, I did not realize you sitting in your computer chair killing low levels in a surprise attack while eating hot pockets made you a "elite player". :rolleyes:


    LOL



    Anyway, i think metalgear is not talking about killing low levels, there was times i could not find a decent duel game... and after trying hours(ok minutes, i'm not that pacient) i would just go in a baal game or chaos run(D2 classic) and hostilize everyone.


    Heck... to go in a game and hostilize a party of 7 lvl90+ does take some kind of elite skills(item wise, fast mouse-clicking, etc.) :P
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    posted a message on Battle.Net Auction House
    Blizzard said that item binding would ruin the D2 classic trade system, system that they want back in D3, by that i assume that the economy will not be gold based, and thus, no auction house (thank god).
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    posted a message on Reasons why PK should stay in D3. A detailed analysis (long)
    Quote from "OathofChaos" »
    I read the OP's post, and skipped the other 20 some-odd pages of well-stated posts and ill-thought flames, to add my 2gp:

    By allowing a full-on PK system (or Griefing), you remove elements of low to mid game by allowing the camping // griefing // and terrorizing of players who are attempting to play the game at a normal and enjoyable pace. I understand there may be a "challenge" involved in running and hiding from, or preparing for someone who is decked out in gear they've worked hard for.... like some "uber-boss"... but lets face it... most true PvPers prefer an even playing field against equal-skilled players, not "Suprise! I killed you while you were trying to kill Baal.... and now you can't finish this run". I feel there is no real honor in PKing.

    And while we're on the subject, PvP is much different than PK. Player Killing implies one-sided, oft overpowered and indiscriminate, killing based solely on the idea of "preying on the weak". PvP, however, implies an equal footing, skill versus skill, matchup against two players. Never should those two be associated with each other.

    That's my 2gp at least.



    The way you talk gives off the impression that pking happens at every single game, every run.

    Not sure how D2 is this days, but back them... i had what, 1 pk every 40 games/runs or so, and i was a addicted player for more than 2 years, i dont think that ''pk ruins runs'' is a valid statement, and in my view, not even blizzard has a valid argument to remove it.

    Yeah it sucks to get griefed(to grief, feels awesome :D ), but imo pking didnt happen so regurlary in D2 to the point of turning itself an issue in D3.
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    posted a message on Reasons why PK should stay in D3. A detailed analysis (long)
    Quote from "Daemaro" »
    Erm how is it NOT Blizzards game? The people wanting PKing are a very small percentile over what will be the whole community of the game. Even if some of the new players are from WoW. A player is a player. Why should 15% have a say against the majority over something that contributes nothing to the game but grief to many and fun to one person?

    I know you agreed it's time for a change, I just wanted to see your opinions on these questions.


    Exactly, Blizzard is not removing pk from the game because of ''it's they're game bullshit'' they are doing it because a considerable amount of the player base dislike getting griefed.


    There's no such thing as ''its mine, i do it my way'', Blizzard take they're fan suggestions serious, and if enough people think that pk(or cartoonish graphics) are a nono them that's the way it's going to be.


    ps: I love pk and the new graphics, but i'l trade pk for a deep pvp system anytime, anyday.
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    posted a message on Reasons why PK should stay in D3. A detailed analysis (long)
    Quote from "Kiserai" »
    You have not addressed the largest and most concrete justification for the removal of PK (assumedly) in D3:

    The dev. team has specifically stated and re-stated the D3 is first an foremost a co-operative game. This statement alone clearly reveals (as does the cited post) Blizzard's stance on PK'ing in D3.

    PK is not intended to be an existent, much less substantial factor of play in D3.

    Why is this the only defense that's needed? Because it's Blizzard's game, and if they don't desire for PK to be a factor in D3, then it won't, and it shouldn't. If PK is that important to a player, he / she won't buy the game. Obviously there aren't enough of those kinds of players to dictate D3 including PK.

    I appreciate the passion and thought included in the OP, but it's time to face it. No matter how much you love to PK, Blizz doesn't want that to be a part of the D3 universe.

    Case closed. Thanks.



    I was writing a very long and dense response to this, but then a saw this:

    ''Because it's Blizzard's game, they can do what.. mimimimi''


    That alone proves you know nothing about D2 or Blizzard.


    btw OP has some very good points, and i do agree that D3 will lose some of it's essence without pk, but i also think it's time to change.
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    posted a message on Females in Diablo 3
    Quote from "SmashBoy" »
    We're talking about the common activity of a folk here. The common activities of these adventurers will be to use their skillsets in defeating monsters, don't you agree? How significantly different do you think a man will be able to shred the bodies of the monsters around them from a woman?

    THAT is the point I'm trying to drive home. Putting activities into perspective. Male and female barbarians are still both barbarians, both are taught the art of killing with their blades.


    Even if they are both barbarians the male would still be much stronger than the female, and you could say this by just looking at his size. But i do get your point you're thinkin only skillwise, i'm thinking only statwise.


    But this post made me see something i had missed, gender traits would just unbalance the game(who would pick a female barb if the male has more str/vit?)
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    posted a message on My D3 wishlist #2 -- NO MORE JAVS
    Quote from "Veritech017" »
    by your logic there should be no bow using characters


    Lol, i just realized that... damn i'm stupid. :/


    ok blizz, javs can stay.
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    posted a message on Females in Diablo 3
    Quote from "SmashBoy" »
    Come on, you are just splitting hairs. World records? Seriously? Like that has anything to do with the day to day activities of the common folk? If you don't want to create a flame war, then why not contribute to the topic itself instead of trying to sway this into some kind of archaic discussion about gender defined abilities?


    OOohhh.. right, like, going into the depths of hell, wearing heavy armor, overloaded with loot, destroying demons and facing just a Diablo dude has EVERYTHING to do with day to day activities, but sure, a woman could take that beating, she has the same physical str of a man.


    You're the one splitting hairs, you made the comparison of real world activities and diablo's sanctuary, not me.
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    posted a message on My D3 wishlist #2 -- NO MORE JAVS
    Javazons were indeed powerfull lvler's, but i think i get that op point, an entire skill tree, for one single weapon?


    Makes no sense to me.
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