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I'm certain the last class will have strong physical damage by wielding ranged weapons.
And i don't believe the game will have more then 6 elements (fire, poison, frost, lightning, arcane, holy*not confirmed*).

It's very unlikely to have another "holy" class and since our last class is a archer type, i think it will focus on the usage of poison, fire and lightning (poison and fire arrows, gas bombs, eletric traps...).
Maybe i'm too close minded, but blizzard gave me a reason to be so.

I guess it is possible for the last class to have some of a few different types of magic form different categories but the character would loose some identity and specialty. I just hope they find a away to make the last class different enough from the pure physical melee of the Barbarian other than just giving him range. I also think that this last class has to have some form of magic.

As of now, I am still thinking of traps for this last class. Maybe instead of elemental damage, these traps could have other effects more similar to the Necro's curses. This would separate his magic form the other classes and still add some element from D2 that we are missing. I.E. slowing traps, weakening traps,

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I guess it is possible for the last class to have some of a few different types of magic form different categories but the character would loose some identity and specialty. I just hope they find a away to make the last class different enough from the pure physical melee of the Barbarian other than just giving him range. I also think that this last class has to have some form of magic.

As of now, I am still thinking of traps for this last class. Maybe instead of elemental damage, these traps could have other effects more similar to the Necro's curses. This would separate his magic form the other classes and still add some element from D2 that we are missing. I.E. slowing traps, weakening traps,

!! Utility traps... I love that ;). It's not like an ice damage, lightning damage, poison damage.... zzzzz Wizard already do this kind of damage !!
:thumbsup:

Exactly, no elemental damage. Either traps with physical damage or utility. Maybe a trap the roots or pulls monsters together making it easier to shoot them with a bow.

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Barbarian
Physical
Arcane? (Berserk)

Monk
Physical
Holy

Witch Doctor
Spirit
Fire
Poison

Wizard
Arcane
Lightning/Wind
Ice/Water?

Hmm. We're still missing mind/mental, earth/nature and unholy/shadow. I guess the ranged class could be like the Amazon and just use Lightning and Ice even though they're already being used by another class. I'd rather have a class that's not so much of a watered down Wizard though.

Wizard have a fire spell too, and wind is a kind of tornado (maybe physical) and I never see a spell of water ?

He just meant that ice/water are pretty much the same element.

I think we can all (if not most) agree that the last class will use bows, but beyond their weapon, what type of damage will the last class do. I don't think they can leave it plain physical and I don't think that they will overlap most magic types. There still has to be something else that will distinguish this class form the rest beyond their weapon of choice.

I still think having either traps or "magic" arrows that will effect a monster is possible. Weakening shot, ensnaring trap, Scatter traps for sticky situations, stunning shots, things like that that don't have a particular element attached to it but goes beyond just physical damage like the barbarian.

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Well the Wizard, I think (s)he's meant to be quite versatile, I remember they gave her a poison spell too but gave it to the Witch Doctor later... So okay, fire too. Wind/lightning... whatever, it's all Air Magic to me. And ice, that's just Water Magic imo... But the question mark is there because maybe they'll actually give her real water magic, like drowning an enemy by casting water in it's lungs or something like that..

So okay, fire too.

? .... why "so okay" ?
wizard have fire spell !!! hydra and meteor storm

maybe they'll actually give her real water magic, like drowning an enemy by casting water in it's lungs or something like that

I don't like !!! I think water will not be in a spell, only ice (what will be the resistance for water ?) nothing ?! that's mean your spell idea "drowning an enemy" will instantly kill. Yeah I'll cast it for boss and duel :thumbsup:

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I just think physical is too similar to the barbarian and all of the known elements of damage are already being used. This is not to say that it can not be any of those. I just think blizzard is really trying to get each character to stand out and using the "magic" that other classes already have will make it hard for this class to stand out.

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I like the scyberdragons idea which would include snares and other curses that would resemble the necro curses somewhat but wouldn't it be a pain to lay out traps every single time your encounter a horde of mobs?

I really like traps and all that but i see a problem with the flow of gameplay if you have to stop and lay out a lot of stuff before pulling mobs.

I agree ! :thumbsup:

But may be the "lay out" of trap will be fast like necro curse in d2 ?!

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D2:

Sorceress: Fire, Lightning, Cold
Amazon: Fire, Lightning, Cold, Poison, Physical, Magic
Barbarian: Physical, Magic
Paladin: Physical, Fire, Lightning, Cold, Magic
Necromancer: Magic, Poison, (tiny fire - golem)
Druid: Physical, Magic, Cold, Fire
Assassin: Physical, Magic, Cold, Fire, Lightning

I wouldn't say that they were varied in their damage types Lightning is used on 4, Physical on 4, Cold on 5, Magic on 6.

3 of the classic classes used Cold. 3 used Lightning. 3 used Fire. 3 used physical.

It's not required to be the same as d2...

You quote someone who want something different, and you said after him that d2 have many similarity, so I thought that you want having similarities between type of damage that character done, like d2 do...

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But the question mark is there because maybe they'll actually give her real water magic, like drowning an enemy by casting water in it's lungs or something like that..

1000$ Goes to the first one who can drown an undead...:confused: (Damn those skeleton lungs)

It is true that in D2 there was a lot of overlap of magic between the different classes. However, so far in D3 there is not and there is a quote by Jay Wilson that they are trying to make each class very different.

In my opinion, the last class will also vary in "magic" from the other classes. It would be possible to have it mel?e oriented but the barb has brute force and monk has quick/agile. If the last class is ranged it would be different from these other two physical classes but I think they would have to give himself something else to have him truly stand out. Otherwise he is a physical wizard.

I think the last class will be a ranged melee class with some healing/spell casting powers. If you think about it as a 5 person party, we already have 2 close range classes (Barb,Monk) a mid range class (Which Doctor) and a far range class (Wizard). All the classes can jump forward and back in distance if necessary, but I think they do have a preferred distance by nature. So that leaves us with 2 close and 1 mid and 1 far, I think the last class with fit somewhere between mid and far.

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It is true that in D2 there was a lot of overlap of magic between the different classes. However, so far in D3 there is not and there is a quote by Jay Wilson that they are trying to make each class very different.

In my opinion, the last class will also vary in "magic" from the other classes. It would be possible to have it mel?e oriented but the barb has brute force and monk has quick/agile. If the last class is ranged it would be different from these other two physical classes but I think they would have to give himself something else to have him truly stand out. Otherwise he is a physical wizard.

I'm agree, the class will certainly be different from others.
Physical wizard ? wizard will be already able to do that...

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They were as definite as in the end of Diablo 1.

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We still don't have ranged class, so that is the first part of the new class. And that probably means arrows/bolts - physical ranged damage.

We also don't have a physical damage character with elemental enchancements, like the Amazon and Paladin in D2, so that is the second part.

The third part is probably some kind of utility part. Perhaps a valkyrie like summon, melee damage support, passives, traps, etc...

That is what I think.

I expect something like that,

I fear that could be boring, I find any ranged (bow) characters that they never pwn.

They need to bring something new in the game play (utility, buffing(traps)) are an idea to bring that

Yeah, there is always the possibilty of being able tothrow the traps. I hink this ability would coincide with a ranged class plus help keep the game play up.

Unless monser AI is insanely better than any previous game, I think throwable traps would be way overpowered. Open a door, throw a few traps wait 5 minutes, then go in and collect the loot.

Boring, unintuitive, and way overpowered. This is the kinda shit I would expect people to start doing immediately to MF, LVL, and RUSH.

So, no thanks.

However if they gave it life points, and made AI so that they would prioritize killing the sentry, then it might be slightly better.

But even then I still think players would find ways to take advantage of bugs/or the such to hide traps in unreachable places.

The trap should be a critically weak structure, unable to do much if not well positioned. Easily destroyed in other words.

Im not a big fan of traps unless they are really super good and they can pwn. I mean, all you are doing is sitting around hoping someone walks on your trap, and unless the monsters are stupid or the person you are playing against in PVP is stupid, they are going to go out of their way to not walk over your traps. Investing skill points into those things are boring to me unless they are torrents. Torrent traps.... that could be cool.

Now in terms of the last class, ill be very happy if it is a ranged class. Given that the reanged class is my favorite of all the classes i sure hope they dont mess up my favorite class I want some really cool skills! Skills that can kill monsters. lol