only Hephesto the Armorer has first part to his name, The Smith is just called The Smith, likewise for The Butcher, least in the games anyway, it could be different in the novels or lore, if the feature.
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Hopefully there is a cinematic in Diablo 3 which involves travelling into inarius' chamber of mirrors, with the awesome graphics that blizzard allways has in their cinematics that would be amazing
That would be great wouldn't it? I picture the mirrors all reflecting a lot of glaring light just to really illuminate Inarius so he can see himself all the better. That would be a chilling cutscene.
only Hephesto the Armorer has first part to his name, The Smith is just called The Smith, likewise for The Butcher, least in the games anyway, it could be different in the novels or lore, if the feature.
Is the infomation given in the Diablo novels counted as official lore by blizzard?
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That would be great wouldn't it? I picture the mirrors all reflecting a lot of glaring light just to really illuminate Inarius so he can see himself all the better. That would be a chilling cutscene.
Is the infomation given in the Diablo novels counted as official lore by blizzard?
if it directly involves the concepts in the games then yes, the novel only demons could be seen as not part of the lore. game only super uniques could be seen as lore though, esp if the are mentioned in the history of sanctuary, Warlord of Blood, Bartuc, Archbishop Lazarus
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Did you mean to say Bartuc was the Warlord of Blood? Cause I was under the impression that he was that. However, I was never really certain that the Warlord of Blood you slay is Diablo is Bartuc himself. Bartuc seemed long gone by that time. Except of course his incarnation within his armor.
its kinda weird in D1 you had the Warlord of Blood, which everyone knows was Bartuc the Bloody, brother of Horazon, yet in LOD you had a demon called Bartuc the Bloody. now he cant physically be both. can he?
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either Baal ressurected him to surround himself with powerful demons, or the one is d1 is like a an incarnation of him in his armor or something.
i dont get how you have two demons with the name Bartuc, either its coincidence and they are two different demons or its somehow the same one.
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either Baal ressurected him to surround himself with powerful demons, or the one is d1 is like a an incarnation of him in his armor or something.
That's actually an interesting theory. Since we know his armor was capable of doing that. Perhaps it is this: once he was defeated, there was the earthly remains of him as well as his essence contain within his armor. When separated, neither were very powerful as a resurrected fighting force, but had flesh and armor come together, then Bartuc would've been as he once was before in all his glory.
-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
So youre saying that the Bartuc that follows around Baal is the actual physical body of Bartuc reincarnated and the Bartuc you fight in Diablo 1 is just his armor which has bits of his soul left inside?
In one of the novels (cant remember which one) i remember reading the first chapter where some warrior puts on his glove and gets corrupted.
EDIT-im a bit slow lol, i should of just read the past posts
So youre saying that the Bartuc that follows around Baal is the actual physical body of Bartuc reincarnated and the Bartuc you fight in Diablo 1 is just his armor which has bits of his soul left inside?
uhh pretty much yeh, for lack of a better explanation.
In one of the novels (cant remember which one) i remember reading the first chapter where some warrior puts on his glove and gets corrupted.
Legacy of Blood.
good read that one.
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Yeah, well it was just a theory. We're trying to figure out why there is the Warlord of Blood in the first Diablo and then Bartuc the Bloody in LoD.
And I just figured since his armor is so significant as seen in the Legacy of Blood, perhaps his soul was fractured and half remained in his body, the other half bound to his armor. Just a theory.
It could very well be that whoever came up with Bartuc the Bloody was just scrolling through the list of Diablo names at Blizzard and thought, "Yeah, let's just call him that."
It could very well be that whoever came up with Bartuc the Bloody was just scrolling through the list of Diablo names at Blizzard and thought, "Yeah, let's just call him that."
personally i prefer our theory, such things are not uncommon in medieval fantasy games/novels/movies/anime/etc.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
It could very well be that whoever came up with Bartuc the Bloody was just scrolling through the list of Diablo names at Blizzard and thought, "Yeah, let's just call him that."
Maybe, they never realised that "Cow King" is actually a contradiction in terms so...
Edit- And they forgot about lillith and the seven major evils... spose there is probably other small things wrong with the lore if you look hard enough
Edit2- Although the lore surrounding lillith was added later in the novels right?
Yeah, I don't know. Sometimes I don't think game developers take their lore seriously enough. Don't they know there will always be deranged fans like us picking apart all the details and/or contradictions in their games?
It may sound facetious of me, but I'm actually rather serious. I do take that stuff pretty seriously.
Maybe, they never realised that "Cow King" is actually a contradiction in terms so...
that probably streams from your typical american lack of knowledge, sorry i didnt mean to offend any americans out there but there is like 3 movies with males cows?wtf that cant happen, male bovine is a Bull, female bovine is a Cow. just like Bull Elephant and Cow Elephant.
also they had to change the name of the first Harry Potter movie, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, as apparantly a large number of americans dont know what the Philosopher's Stone is, Sorcerer's Stone made more sense to them.
actually Cow King might be correct, been a while since ive done a cow run, do the Hell Bovine have udders (breasts) is not the they could be all male, hence a Cow King could be possible though the use of the word cow is incorrect he should be Bovine King. If Hell Bovine are female the name should be Cow Queen. King implys male.
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that probably streams from your typical american lack of knowledge, sorry i didnt mean to offend any americans out there but there is like 3 movies with males cows?wtf that cant happen, male bovine is a Bull, female bovine is a Cow. just like Bull Elephant and Cow Elephant.
i was actually unaware that male/female elephants were called bull elephant and cow elephant...intriguing... i wonder what cow elephant milk taste like
i was actually unaware that male/female elephants were called bull elephant and cow elephant...intriguing... i wonder what cow elephant milk taste like
Seal, Walrus, Hippo, Elephant, Bovine all have Bull and Cow. I think they all come from a common ancestor.
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Isn't it just as common as calling their young a calf? Like with most large, warm blooded mammals. Even whales will give birth to a calf. Though I don't know if a male whale is referred to as a bull male.
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Is the infomation given in the Diablo novels counted as official lore by blizzard?
I may just dream about that tonight
if it directly involves the concepts in the games then yes, the novel only demons could be seen as not part of the lore. game only super uniques could be seen as lore though, esp if the are mentioned in the history of sanctuary, Warlord of Blood, Bartuc, Archbishop Lazarus
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i dont get how you have two demons with the name Bartuc, either its coincidence and they are two different demons or its somehow the same one.
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In one of the novels (cant remember which one) i remember reading the first chapter where some warrior puts on his glove and gets corrupted.
EDIT-im a bit slow lol, i should of just read the past posts
uhh pretty much yeh, for lack of a better explanation.
Legacy of Blood.
good read that one.
And I just figured since his armor is so significant as seen in the Legacy of Blood, perhaps his soul was fractured and half remained in his body, the other half bound to his armor. Just a theory.
It could very well be that whoever came up with Bartuc the Bloody was just scrolling through the list of Diablo names at Blizzard and thought, "Yeah, let's just call him that."
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personally i prefer our theory, such things are not uncommon in medieval fantasy games/novels/movies/anime/etc.
Maybe, they never realised that "Cow King" is actually a contradiction in terms so...
Edit- And they forgot about lillith and the seven major evils... spose there is probably other small things wrong with the lore if you look hard enough
Edit2- Although the lore surrounding lillith was added later in the novels right?
It may sound facetious of me, but I'm actually rather serious. I do take that stuff pretty seriously.
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that probably streams from your typical american lack of knowledge, sorry i didnt mean to offend any americans out there but there is like 3 movies with males cows?wtf that cant happen, male bovine is a Bull, female bovine is a Cow. just like Bull Elephant and Cow Elephant.
also they had to change the name of the first Harry Potter movie, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, as apparantly a large number of americans dont know what the Philosopher's Stone is, Sorcerer's Stone made more sense to them.
actually Cow King might be correct, been a while since ive done a cow run, do the Hell Bovine have udders (breasts) is not the they could be all male, hence a Cow King could be possible though the use of the word cow is incorrect he should be Bovine King. If Hell Bovine are female the name should be Cow Queen. King implys male.
i was actually unaware that male/female elephants were called bull elephant and cow elephant...intriguing... i wonder what cow elephant milk taste like
Seal, Walrus, Hippo, Elephant, Bovine all have Bull and Cow. I think they all come from a common ancestor.
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