Why does everyone expect a knight, or some sort of sword and shield hero?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it isn't possible. To the contrary, it's plausible, but why the fuck should they do that, it would make D3 such a rehash of D2.....
In my opinion, there is already a fighter. The barbarian, and he is more than capable of picking up a shield and swing a sword at the same time. Why should we need someone else to fill that role. It's ridiculous. I'm begging Blizzard to come up with something more diversified than a knight"ish hero. Use a little imagination. Something we haven't seen before in the world of Diablo. A mercenary, a REAL assassin (Since the last one wasn't anything like an assassin.) or even an alchemist... I don't care really as long as it makes playing interesting and not feel like I'm playing a 3D version of Diablo 2...
You guys have such a lack of vision.
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lol you mean a kind of wind runner/rider? Someone that kills swiftly... almost omnipresent. That sounds cool, perfect assassin for me :D. I personally am very open minded, it's just that everything has been done by D&D. I mean litteraly every class! So it's pretty hard to come up with something original, that has never been invented. Sure you can create an all new class with lasers and knife instead of hands.... but the overwhelming creativity will completely crush the character's credibility. So then we are confined to use predetermined classes and just put a small touch of originality to create a very entertaining class. You don't recreate the same damn thing, plus you keep the player-personna link where you can really associate yourself to the class. This is exactly what they did with the Wizard. i mean come on, I see wizards everywhere... Harry Potter anyone? Heroes of might and magic I-II-III and the VI. Oblivion had wizards I think. Overdone class actually. But since the wizard has a powerful image... why not use it and add a new dimension to it : Time. So there you have it. We're not lacking vision, we're trying find out the 2 new most probable classes.
On the other hand, about the paladin remake. Diablo 3 needs a holy warrior because it's logically impossible to see a war between hell and heaven without any sort of religious hero getting his hands dirty....
Edit: Talking about D&D I've been looking up some classes and here are the ones that caught my attention :
- Cavalier : Basically knight trained as cavalier... ¬_¬ somewhat redundant
- Draco Knight : Can be considered as Draconian.. or Dragon Knight
- Naturalist: I don't know exactly what he does, but I guess he is some kind of Botanist/Druid ( seems too light for Diablo 3 )
- Holy Avenger: I like the avenger part
- Great Hunter: The name says it all
- Night Stalker: Quite a nice name for a Ninja/Assassin class.
- Sacred Disciple: Monk/Knight class
That's about it, If you guys find anything interesting please post it. I'm intrigued to see what names you can find :P!
Well, if you're so smart, let's hear your ideas! And I mean original ideas! What you said so far was nothing new!
This forum serves only one purpose: DISCUSSING! It would have been easier if you just said your opinion on the subject!
Actually i DID SAY MY OPINION ON THE SUBJECT. It was simply said that I wanted a different roster than D2. Does this somewhat sound too demanding or outrageous to you Dauroth? I never claimed to be smarter than anyone out here, don't attack me with bigotry. I did give a few examples, now you chose to ignore them, the guy who posted before you made a comment on it (assassin). But the three char names I mentioned were just from the top of my head, not at all relating to what I would choose if it were up to me. Since I was generalizing and stating that any class would be good as long as it's not a rip off from D2.
As for what you said about my post containing nothing new....
There aren't many threads out there who claim the barb could fill in the Sword N Shield "Warrior" role. It's been mentioned previously I'm sure of it, but not in detail. So I tipped it off maybe hoping you could pick up from there, but you chose instead to criticize me personally and ignore my point. Seems to me you should listen to your own advice and post something with more content than a direct criticism to my person, just because me opinion does not confer with your ideal view of D3 chars. In general, I do agree with your idea of having a ranged class since we don't have one yet. But I disagree totally in you implying that:
Ok let's see, we got the Barbarian! Check! Now all we are missing is a warrior..... (So what the hell does that make the barbarian? A ballet dancer?)
I personally am very open minded, it's just that everything has been done by D&D. I mean litteraly every class! So it's pretty hard to come up with something original, that has never been invented. Sure you can create an all new class with lasers and knife instead of hands.... but the overwhelming creativity will completely crush the character's credibility.
Psyxix
Well, if you pay close attention to what I stated in my last post you will see that I didn't write ; Make an original char that we haven't seen before anywhere. I said "that we haven't seen before inDiablo". Diablo Being the dominant word of the argument. Yes D&D have probably made every single class that could ever be thought of, which is a good thing. It gives us a full plethora of ideas to make characters. I think that is a universally known fact. But Diablo in total has only released (Warrior, Rogue, Mage, Monk, Barb(X3), Assassin, Amazon, Necromancer, Druid, Paladin, Sorceress, Wizard, Witch Doctor) so far. It's not that much considering how many builds D&D have made possible and that Diablo could "copy" from while adding their own touch to it. Plus remember that the Monk was a char from Hellfire that was totally underdeveloped. If they decided to make him do a come-back I would be thrilled. Much better then another (A la Barbarian) comeback of a Holy Warrior Paladin that was in my opinion well developed in D2.
And yes, it is very possible to have a Diablo 3 setting with no Holy Warrior to choose from just like it's possible for a game named Diablo to not have Diablo as a final boss. Not having a playable char being the paladin doesn't mean they won't be present in the game. It just means we've been there, done that. Time to move to bigger and better things. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but this is called discussing isn't it?
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I personally feel that there should be a character that is KUNG-FU based......its main weapon should be like a chain(something like in prince of persia two thrones)..It shuld also be able to make aerial attacks.I think it should be calledthe monk,or the avatar,
I would love to see a runemaster class!!!the runemaster can create runes,make rune elementals....and even do some rune-hunting.....there should be many kinds of runes,each with their own shrine.And each classshould have its own unique skill. for ex: in diablo 1 the warrior could repair his weapons for free......this skill should be something simple but useful.for ex:maybe the runemaster can embed and create runes...the warrior can go into RAGE mode..the rouge can have a pet eagle that ats as a spy/comrade.
I would love to see a runemaster class!!!the runemaster can create runes,make rune elementals....and even do some rune-hunting.....there should be many kinds of runes,each with their own shrine.And each classshould have its own unique skill. for ex: in diablo 1 the warrior could repair his weapons for free......this skill should be something simple but useful.for ex:maybe the runemaster can embed and create runes...the warrior can go into RAGE mode..the rouge can have a pet eagle that ats as a spy/comrade.
Dude, I'm sorry to tell you but your stuck in the 90's. It's time for you to come back. This isn't Diablo 1. Characters have had their own skills since D2 came out in 2000. Spellbooks haven't existed since 1997. Go buy a copy of D2 or reinstall the game if you already have it, and play it again...
But I must admit for a guy that's 10 years behind, you have a cool idea for a new character;
THE RUNEMASTER! :thumbsup:
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I LOVE being a SEX TON!!!
And yes, it is very possible to have a Diablo 3 setting with no Holy Warrior to choose from just like it's possible for a game named Diablo to not have Diablo as a final boss. Not having a playable char being the paladin doesn't mean they won't be present in the game. It just means we've been there, done that. Time to move to bigger and better things. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but this is called discussing isn't it?
Remember here, at the end of my text I wrote Religious Hero and not religious warrior. Besides, I never even considered dismissing the possibility of a monk comeback... but I must admit that I am somewhat skeptic. I mean monk... I don't know, sounds like a cheap rip off from a Kung-Fu movie. Nah I prefer a Disciple.
I must say that i'm sorry for missreading you though. I mean, I thought you meant recreating an all new, never seen, character in the RPG universe... that would have been awkward ¬_¬. Meet the Sushi Ninja Japanese Laser Maid, she's sooooo badass with her all new attack : The fish slap of death ! + mattheo_majik I don't see why you're so grumpy jumpy, nothing me or Dauroth said was very offensive.
so I looked up the monk : "
The Monk was added in the Hellfire expansion pack. His best weapon is the staff, a design clearly meant to fit him into an unused weapon niche. He is awesome with a fast swinging staff; capable of hitting three targets at once with high to/hit and for considerable damage. His shortcoming stems from his very balanced stats; it's impossible to raise his hit points anywhere near as high as those of a warrior or barbarian, which makes the Monk a bit of a glass cannon, with low defense and hit points that hinder his awesome offensive melee prowess. He can be an effective magic user, and certainly has the mana to heal a great number of times, which he needs since he will nearly die from magical attacks while tearing up any melee enemies. " From Wiki.
Sounds like an assassin to me and it seems like they did ameliorate the monk in D2 ( by making the assassin). So really, the only way they can go here is toward either a ranged monk or a holy monk or a warrior monk. The ranged monk would be like a Sohei, a japanese ninja/archer. The warrior monk would be a Templar or something....
I highly doubt, other than this, that we're gonna see any kind of Monk fighter. I personnally thought that martial arts were displaced in d2 with the assasin. I mean , seriously, whose gonna fight with their bare hands when everyone has swords, axes, bows, barriches, scythes, maces.... come on, I wanna see smashing, heads explode, not sissy slaps and pom pom girl moves! :cute:,
Hey Hey HEy, Cmon now! I'm not grumpy, and I'm always respectful in my post. I double dare you to find any hateful or disrespectful comments in anything I wrote here. :cool:
I do address matter very directly though which might come off as heated, but if you take a close look, it's never personal criticism directed at someone. Only disagreement backed by opinionated arguments. However I do get grumpy when someone tells me quote;
Well, if you're so smart, let's hear your ideas! And I mean original ideas! What you said so far was nothing new!
This forum serves only one purpose: DISCUSSING! It would have been easier if you just said your opinion on the subject!
and implies that my ideas are not "on topic" opinions, or that I come off as "mister smart ass" for posting my thoughts. Psyxix, to answer your comment, I was actually very polite towards your post, and even mentioned you positively for having commented on my assassin suggestions, reflecting the fact that you took my ideas seriously. The last statement of my post was actually addressed to Dauroth for his judgement he had passed on me. To my knowledge I was in no way unfair in my reply.
Consequently, I am very thankfull for Dauroth's apologies, and I hold him absolutely no grudge. If however I came off as "Grumpy Jumpy" I do apologize on my part. Now lets move on to the matters at hand.
I did in fact love the idea that psyxix came up with in this post;
The ranged monk would be like a Sohei, a japanese ninja/archer.
Chiefly because it's really killing two birds with one stone, as the saying goes. We can get the archer conceptualized while getting rid of the Holy/Mystical warrior factor, since a Ninja Archer Monk would be Mystical enough. He could hold the torch for the hybrid fighter/caster. Thus opening the possibility for a brand new type of character in the last slot.
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Power (Barbarian), Elemental Nature (Witch Doctor), Magic (Wizard.
So what do we have left? We have range or like a religion based character. So my best guess on choosing a character would be Paladin and Bowman, naturally.
Power (Barbarian), Elemental Nature (Witch Doctor), Magic (Wizard.
So what do we have left? We have range or like a religion based character. So my best guess on choosing a character would be Paladin and Bowman, naturally.
If you assume that the set of classes will be an injective mapping (one-to-one and onto) of the set of { Barbarian, Elemental Nature, Magic, Range, Religion Based}, then you are absolutely correct.
However, this is a very narrow-minded view that is not substantiated by any evidence whatsoever. By your logic (or lack thereof), it would have been impossible for Diablo 3 to not contain a Barbarian class because it is one of the fundamental categories that must exist.
In the previous 2 Diablo games, we did see the recurring theme of a melee character, a ranged spellcaster, and a ranged non-magic class. These are also common themes in most RPG's so I think this set does have substantial evidence. However, we already have seen a melee (Barbarian) and 2 spellcasters (wizard and WD), so those bases are covered in that sense. The WD is also a summoning based class which has also increased in popularity in RPGs lately so it also fills that role.
Therefore I think you are correct that a ranged character will be among the remaining two classes...but as for the last class, you cannot say that it will be based on religion just because D2 had a class based on religion. They didn't say they were going to try and copy the D2 classes and change the names. While it is true that both D1 (Hellfire) and D2 had a religion based class (the Monk and the Paladin), they also both had a Roguelike class (the Rogue and the Assassin)...and there are plenty of other unexplored classes.
Anyway, my personal prediction is a Ranger and a Knight class. Similar to your prediction, but for different reasons.
If you assume that the set of classes will be an injective mapping (one-to-one and onto) of the set of { Barbarian, Elemental Nature, Magic, Range, Religion Based}, then you are absolutely correct.
However, this is a very narrow-minded view that is not substantiated by any evidence whatsoever. By your logic (or lack thereof), it would have been impossible for Diablo 3 to not contain a Barbarian class because it is one of the fundamental categories that must exist.
In the previous 2 Diablo games, we did see the recurring theme of a melee character, a ranged spellcaster, and a ranged non-magic class. These are also common themes in most RPG's so I think this set does have substantial evidence. However, we already have seen a melee (Barbarian) and 2 spellcasters (wizard and WD), so those bases are covered in that sense. The WD is also a summoning based class which has also increased in popularity in RPGs lately so it also fills that role.
Therefore I think you are correct that a ranged character will be among the remaining two classes...but as for the last class, you cannot say that it will be based on religion just because D2 had a class based on religion. They didn't say they were going to try and copy the D2 classes and change the names. While it is true that both D1 (Hellfire) and D2 had a religion based class (the Monk and the Paladin), they also both had a Roguelike class (the Rogue and the Assassin)...and there are plenty of other unexplored classes.
Anyway, my personal prediction is a Ranger and a Knight class. Similar to your prediction, but for different reasons.
I see your point and I get what you mean. But I am 100% certain that one of the classes will be a Bowman, since almost all the games that allow freedom of character class have a bowman or range, which, like you said, is very common. So then we have one more slot open. And there, I have to agree with, is very open to what kind of character it will be since it doesn't necassarily need to be religion based. It can be a stealthy trapper or shapeshifter. But, basing that Diablo is a religion based game, I made a hypothesis that the last character will be a religion based character, like a necromancer or paladin.
There's this tea I'm having lately that I'm getting in a local herbal pharmacy that really helps with grumpiness and tension.
The argument about ranged and "higher power" characters is valid. There only remains to be seen which of the two classes, if any, will be wielding polearms and if that single fact can determine what kind of a class we can be expecting.
I expect the next character to be a Warlord type of a class that combines ranged weapons, polearms, and paladin-like curses or warcries that are more party-friendly like the Barbarian from D2. The name is also very fitting and comes from D&D which seems to be Blizzards source of inspiration all over again so this might even be a very lucky guess.
While it is true that both D1 (Hellfire) and D2 had a religion based class (the Monk and the Paladin), they also both had a Roguelike class (the Rogue and the Assassin)...and there are plenty of other unexplored classes.
I'd like to point out that since Hellfire wasn't made by Blizzard, it's not cannon or relevant.
There's this tea I'm having lately that I'm getting in a local herbal pharmacy that really helps with grumpiness and tension.
The argument about ranged and "higher power" characters is valid. There only remains to be seen which of the two classes, if any, will be wielding polearms and if that single fact can determine what kind of a class we can be expecting.
I expect the next character to be a Warlord type of a class that combines ranged weapons, polearms, and paladin-like curses or warcries that are more party-friendly like the Barbarian from D2. The name is also very fitting and comes from D&D which seems to be Blizzards source of inspiration all over again so this might even be a very lucky guess.
o.o' I like this warlord idea. The only problem is hat his is ''too physical'' in my opnion.
In the WWI video they said ''The barbarian is the only class that is all based at physical brute force''. Thats the same as say ''all other 4 classes will have magical abilities at a certain amount''. However this warlord guy can easily have elemental fire / lightning melee attacks and bow shoots.
I kno you guys hate this idea, but i think it would be very cool for this kind of class have a skill for summonng a Warhorse, wich would increase the movement speed and damage for poliarms/spears.
I kno you guys hate this idea, but i think it would be very cool for this kind of class have a skill for summonng a Warhorse, wich would increase the movement speed and damage for poliarms/spears.
Yeah, you could then call the game, Diablo 3: Dynasty Warriors. Meh... Not such a good idea in my opinion. Walking/Hovering is enough for me. Wouldn't want to have to duel a char running circles on a horse around me.
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Yeah, you could then call the game, Diablo 3: Dynasty Warriors. Meh... Not such a good idea in my opinion. Walking/Hovering is enough for me. Wouldn't want to have to duel a char running circles on a horse around me.
Bleh.. dynast warrior no please.
And i don't kno why yous hate so much a mount. You will have to duel with a char teleporting around you, leaping around (or on you!) why not riding a horse?
This is not WOW my friend, this is diablo. Diablo = kick ass warriors without a mount. Have you ever seen a cavalier fighting in a small dungeon with his horse? I have personally never ever seen that. If you look at it in any possible angle, the mount is not useful, actually brings nothing new and will be a burden more than fun thing to have for everybody. But, then again this is my opinion...
Maybe instead of a mount he can summon the power of a horse ie increase speed and strength but not appearance... that is the only way. also my opinion is a shape shifter of some sought. also i believe there will be a religious character in there somewhere and also some sought of ranged character. the shape shifing would filter into one of these moulds.
Although i never liked the paladin i believe saying that there wont be a religious type character is stupid cause it is based around demons and angels... there will be a religious type character. whether he is a knight type character, a priest, arch bishop mace/polearm class i dont know but there will be one.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it isn't possible. To the contrary, it's plausible, but why the fuck should they do that, it would make D3 such a rehash of D2.....
In my opinion, there is already a fighter. The barbarian, and he is more than capable of picking up a shield and swing a sword at the same time. Why should we need someone else to fill that role. It's ridiculous. I'm begging Blizzard to come up with something more diversified than a knight"ish hero. Use a little imagination. Something we haven't seen before in the world of Diablo. A mercenary, a REAL assassin (Since the last one wasn't anything like an assassin.) or even an alchemist... I don't care really as long as it makes playing interesting and not feel like I'm playing a 3D version of Diablo 2...
You guys have such a lack of vision.
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Originally Posted by mattheo_majik
I LOVE being a SEX TON!!!
On the other hand, about the paladin remake. Diablo 3 needs a holy warrior because it's logically impossible to see a war between hell and heaven without any sort of religious hero getting his hands dirty....
Edit: Talking about D&D I've been looking up some classes and here are the ones that caught my attention :
- Cavalier : Basically knight trained as cavalier... ¬_¬ somewhat redundant
- Draco Knight : Can be considered as Draconian.. or Dragon Knight
- Naturalist: I don't know exactly what he does, but I guess he is some kind of Botanist/Druid ( seems too light for Diablo 3 )
- Holy Avenger: I like the avenger part
- Great Hunter: The name says it all
- Night Stalker: Quite a nice name for a Ninja/Assassin class.
- Sacred Disciple: Monk/Knight class
That's about it, If you guys find anything interesting please post it. I'm intrigued to see what names you can find :P!
Actually i DID SAY MY OPINION ON THE SUBJECT. It was simply said that I wanted a different roster than D2. Does this somewhat sound too demanding or outrageous to you Dauroth? I never claimed to be smarter than anyone out here, don't attack me with bigotry. I did give a few examples, now you chose to ignore them, the guy who posted before you made a comment on it (assassin). But the three char names I mentioned were just from the top of my head, not at all relating to what I would choose if it were up to me. Since I was generalizing and stating that any class would be good as long as it's not a rip off from D2.
As for what you said about my post containing nothing new....
There aren't many threads out there who claim the barb could fill in the Sword N Shield "Warrior" role. It's been mentioned previously I'm sure of it, but not in detail. So I tipped it off maybe hoping you could pick up from there, but you chose instead to criticize me personally and ignore my point. Seems to me you should listen to your own advice and post something with more content than a direct criticism to my person, just because me opinion does not confer with your ideal view of D3 chars. In general, I do agree with your idea of having a ranged class since we don't have one yet. But I disagree totally in you implying that:
Ok let's see, we got the Barbarian! Check! Now all we are missing is a warrior..... (So what the hell does that make the barbarian? A ballet dancer?)
Psyxix
Well, if you pay close attention to what I stated in my last post you will see that I didn't write ; Make an original char that we haven't seen before anywhere. I said "that we haven't seen before in Diablo". Diablo Being the dominant word of the argument. Yes D&D have probably made every single class that could ever be thought of, which is a good thing. It gives us a full plethora of ideas to make characters. I think that is a universally known fact. But Diablo in total has only released (Warrior, Rogue, Mage, Monk, Barb(X3), Assassin, Amazon, Necromancer, Druid, Paladin, Sorceress, Wizard, Witch Doctor) so far. It's not that much considering how many builds D&D have made possible and that Diablo could "copy" from while adding their own touch to it. Plus remember that the Monk was a char from Hellfire that was totally underdeveloped. If they decided to make him do a come-back I would be thrilled. Much better then another (A la Barbarian) comeback of a Holy Warrior Paladin that was in my opinion well developed in D2.
And yes, it is very possible to have a Diablo 3 setting with no Holy Warrior to choose from just like it's possible for a game named Diablo to not have Diablo as a final boss. Not having a playable char being the paladin doesn't mean they won't be present in the game. It just means we've been there, done that. Time to move to bigger and better things. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but this is called discussing isn't it?
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Originally Posted by mattheo_majik
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Dude, I'm sorry to tell you but your stuck in the 90's. It's time for you to come back. This isn't Diablo 1. Characters have had their own skills since D2 came out in 2000. Spellbooks haven't existed since 1997. Go buy a copy of D2 or reinstall the game if you already have it, and play it again...
But I must admit for a guy that's 10 years behind, you have a cool idea for a new character;
THE RUNEMASTER! :thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by mattheo_majik
I LOVE being a SEX TON!!!
Remember here, at the end of my text I wrote Religious Hero and not religious warrior. Besides, I never even considered dismissing the possibility of a monk comeback... but I must admit that I am somewhat skeptic. I mean monk... I don't know, sounds like a cheap rip off from a Kung-Fu movie. Nah I prefer a Disciple.
I must say that i'm sorry for missreading you though. I mean, I thought you meant recreating an all new, never seen, character in the RPG universe... that would have been awkward ¬_¬. Meet the Sushi Ninja Japanese Laser Maid, she's sooooo badass with her all new attack : The fish slap of death ! + mattheo_majik I don't see why you're so grumpy jumpy, nothing me or Dauroth said was very offensive.
The Monk was added in the Hellfire expansion pack. His best weapon is the staff, a design clearly meant to fit him into an unused weapon niche. He is awesome with a fast swinging staff; capable of hitting three targets at once with high to/hit and for considerable damage. His shortcoming stems from his very balanced stats; it's impossible to raise his hit points anywhere near as high as those of a warrior or barbarian, which makes the Monk a bit of a glass cannon, with low defense and hit points that hinder his awesome offensive melee prowess. He can be an effective magic user, and certainly has the mana to heal a great number of times, which he needs since he will nearly die from magical attacks while tearing up any melee enemies. " From Wiki.
Sounds like an assassin to me and it seems like they did ameliorate the monk in D2 ( by making the assassin). So really, the only way they can go here is toward either a ranged monk or a holy monk or a warrior monk. The ranged monk would be like a Sohei, a japanese ninja/archer. The warrior monk would be a Templar or something....
I highly doubt, other than this, that we're gonna see any kind of Monk fighter. I personnally thought that martial arts were displaced in d2 with the assasin. I mean , seriously, whose gonna fight with their bare hands when everyone has swords, axes, bows, barriches, scythes, maces.... come on, I wanna see smashing, heads explode, not sissy slaps and pom pom girl moves! :cute:,
Hey Hey HEy, Cmon now! I'm not grumpy, and I'm always respectful in my post. I double dare you to find any hateful or disrespectful comments in anything I wrote here. :cool:
I do address matter very directly though which might come off as heated, but if you take a close look, it's never personal criticism directed at someone. Only disagreement backed by opinionated arguments. However I do get grumpy when someone tells me quote;
and implies that my ideas are not "on topic" opinions, or that I come off as "mister smart ass" for posting my thoughts. Psyxix, to answer your comment, I was actually very polite towards your post, and even mentioned you positively for having commented on my assassin suggestions, reflecting the fact that you took my ideas seriously. The last statement of my post was actually addressed to Dauroth for his judgement he had passed on me. To my knowledge I was in no way unfair in my reply.
Consequently, I am very thankfull for Dauroth's apologies, and I hold him absolutely no grudge. If however I came off as "Grumpy Jumpy" I do apologize on my part. Now lets move on to the matters at hand.
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I did in fact love the idea that psyxix came up with in this post;
Chiefly because it's really killing two birds with one stone, as the saying goes. We can get the archer conceptualized while getting rid of the Holy/Mystical warrior factor, since a Ninja Archer Monk would be Mystical enough. He could hold the torch for the hybrid fighter/caster. Thus opening the possibility for a brand new type of character in the last slot.
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Originally Posted by mattheo_majik
I LOVE being a SEX TON!!!
Power (Barbarian), Elemental Nature (Witch Doctor), Magic (Wizard.
So what do we have left? We have range or like a religion based character. So my best guess on choosing a character would be Paladin and Bowman, naturally.
If you assume that the set of classes will be an injective mapping (one-to-one and onto) of the set of { Barbarian, Elemental Nature, Magic, Range, Religion Based}, then you are absolutely correct.
However, this is a very narrow-minded view that is not substantiated by any evidence whatsoever. By your logic (or lack thereof), it would have been impossible for Diablo 3 to not contain a Barbarian class because it is one of the fundamental categories that must exist.
In the previous 2 Diablo games, we did see the recurring theme of a melee character, a ranged spellcaster, and a ranged non-magic class. These are also common themes in most RPG's so I think this set does have substantial evidence. However, we already have seen a melee (Barbarian) and 2 spellcasters (wizard and WD), so those bases are covered in that sense. The WD is also a summoning based class which has also increased in popularity in RPGs lately so it also fills that role.
Therefore I think you are correct that a ranged character will be among the remaining two classes...but as for the last class, you cannot say that it will be based on religion just because D2 had a class based on religion. They didn't say they were going to try and copy the D2 classes and change the names. While it is true that both D1 (Hellfire) and D2 had a religion based class (the Monk and the Paladin), they also both had a Roguelike class (the Rogue and the Assassin)...and there are plenty of other unexplored classes.
Anyway, my personal prediction is a Ranger and a Knight class. Similar to your prediction, but for different reasons.
I see your point and I get what you mean. But I am 100% certain that one of the classes will be a Bowman, since almost all the games that allow freedom of character class have a bowman or range, which, like you said, is very common. So then we have one more slot open. And there, I have to agree with, is very open to what kind of character it will be since it doesn't necassarily need to be religion based. It can be a stealthy trapper or shapeshifter. But, basing that Diablo is a religion based game, I made a hypothesis that the last character will be a religion based character, like a necromancer or paladin.
The argument about ranged and "higher power" characters is valid. There only remains to be seen which of the two classes, if any, will be wielding polearms and if that single fact can determine what kind of a class we can be expecting.
I expect the next character to be a Warlord type of a class that combines ranged weapons, polearms, and paladin-like curses or warcries that are more party-friendly like the Barbarian from D2. The name is also very fitting and comes from D&D which seems to be Blizzards source of inspiration all over again so this might even be a very lucky guess.
EDIT: Something like... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4c/DWGuanYu.jpg
Couldn't find a nice Guan-Di depiction.
I'd like to point out that since Hellfire wasn't made by Blizzard, it's not cannon or relevant.
o.o' I like this warlord idea. The only problem is hat his is ''too physical'' in my opnion.
In the WWI video they said ''The barbarian is the only class that is all based at physical brute force''. Thats the same as say ''all other 4 classes will have magical abilities at a certain amount''. However this warlord guy can easily have elemental fire / lightning melee attacks and bow shoots.
I kno you guys hate this idea, but i think it would be very cool for this kind of class have a skill for summonng a Warhorse, wich would increase the movement speed and damage for poliarms/spears.
Yeah, you could then call the game, Diablo 3: Dynasty Warriors. Meh... Not such a good idea in my opinion. Walking/Hovering is enough for me. Wouldn't want to have to duel a char running circles on a horse around me.
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Bleh.. dynast warrior no please.
And i don't kno why yous hate so much a mount. You will have to duel with a char teleporting around you, leaping around (or on you!) why not riding a horse?
I simply posted a picture of a warrior who happened to be on a horse. What's the problem now?
I implore on the first moderator who sees this to delete this and the preceding few posts, for the sake of this topic.
Although i never liked the paladin i believe saying that there wont be a religious type character is stupid cause it is based around demons and angels... there will be a religious type character. whether he is a knight type character, a priest, arch bishop mace/polearm class i dont know but there will be one.