I thought about giving you all credit in this post for various reasons, but found the amount of credit due would possibly be deemed ass kissing, and I don't kiss ass nor believe you all would appreciate it. I'd much rather be respected and I think the same of you all.
I've been talking with Requiem a tad bit, and following said chit chat I began the hunt for threads with reportable posts. When I already had 7 or so reports on the second page, with plenty more to go, of a thread, I decided to stop and come post this.
I'm new here, fully understood, and I don't want to be the rookie who joins up and thinks he doesn't need a good 5-10 years before making suggestions to the Board or CEO. I'm really hoping this post isn't perceived by you ladies and gents in a bad way.
All of these sarcastic, insulting, and so on, I'm sure you all have plenty of knowledge of where I'm going with this - please, I beg you for every respectable member here as well as yourselves - that these kind of people need to go away. There's so many already, I know. I think if the members begin helping you moderators bust ass, very soon you can log on, come check Diablo III news, see what's happening with everyone, and make a quality response to a quality insight WITHOUT needing to see "27 reports," "You're wrong, you this and that."
I've been on a forum where maybe every 2 months one of these people come along, and you can guess how quickly they are dealt with. It's not very hard to make a rule abiding post, and it is clear as day most of these people just do not care.
This action, getting rid of these individuals or squaring them away will make for a very enjoyable forum, hell, scratch that, it will turn this forum into a community, and a future family of Diablo III teammates without anyone causing problems. These type of people make it harder for the community on the forum, and will make the experience on Diablo III suck or at least not benefit its improvement.
I look forward to the day a thread nor post gets deleted, no post reported, and no negative posts made. I've seen what can happen from a positive forum, and it's an absolutely beautiful thing. You have nothing but looking forward to visiting it even if just for a moment or two, and any disappointment would be a huge shock that is rare. It is very possible.
I hope this ignites change for the good.
There's already enough negative people outside.
Who wants to come home, get onto the PC they paid money for, sign onto the internet they continue to pay money for, soon to be log onto the Diablo III they will pay money for and experience more negative people?
And then you moderators have to, on top of that, go through the motions of mediating and having to discipline and penalize people.
This shouldn't be a second job or hash doubts in the back of the mind.
This should be absolute, pure fun and intercommunicable excitement for our future Christmas present from Old Saint Blizz.
I look forward to the discussion.
Respectfully,
SEAL
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Totally agreed. Diablofans is not what it used to be anymore. If I want to find an intelligent Diablo discussion, I have to go to starcraft-source, which is really strange.
We used to be able to keep up with it. But lately it's getting pretty insane. With over 33,000 registered accounts here that's a lot of potential posts/threads that we may have to delete/move/merge/closed.
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Bah. I see TheWarden openly trolling, in front of Siaynoq, 2 times, and he didn't get a ban. Then Siaynoq leaves and the guy trolls again. This happens all over the place. Warnings don't make people smarter.
33,000 registered members. Only 50 of them seem to be posting, I recognize names already.
If you can't moderate people without post reporting you need to hire more mods.
You're suggesting that your own preference be enforced on the forum because you deem it ideal. Not only that, you're hardly elaborating on your preference. I fail to see what you're ultimately recommending for the forum. World peace? All negativity to be banished? Everyone to end their posts with "I love you". I myself love debates, and I love arguments. These are things that define individuals. I've gotten a good taste of who the majority of the REGs are on this forum. This forum is flavorful because of negative and positive responses. I mean, we have people who seem to never argue, never have any negative qualities, never degrade anyone, I find them to be boring. I DO not want a fluffy lovey dovey forum where we all compliment each other consistently throughout the day.
I'm not saying there are certain aspects of this forum I wouldn't change. For instance, I hate kids who can't spell worth a damn. Too bad we can't ban people for bad english. I hate kids who DON'T research the forum for other threads with the SAME discussion. Especially when it's a very easy simple thing to do. I wish they could all be banned. If you can articulate yourself, if you're of a somewhat intelligent nature, I don't care what you do, or what you say. This is a forum. It's a medium of conversation. I don't want to restrict the conversation. I want to restrict the lack of.
You're approaching this website more than it actually is. what you're asking is almost unachievable by its current status It's a Diablo 3 fan site. The way you imagine this site, it sounds like you want a strong community, with a very heavy emphasis on Diablo 3(obviously). Aside from the daily news that a couple staff members post on the front page. This is a very open ended site. We provide NOTHING but a forum. This forum is the core of the website, and a forum is a difficult place establish community. It must be done on a webmaster/admin level. Certain admins have the ability to design the webpage to appropriately establish a stronger community. We don't provide tutorials. We don't provide a very organized article listing, our main archives are researching the forums.
Now let's pretend we could form this awesome community that you're suggesting. We would need to focus on rules. The world works from rules. We need standards that are comprehendible. You should never have a rule that is ambiguous, or can be misinterpreted. You'll find 1 moderator doing something completely different than another. There is a rule that says no flaming... What is flaming? Is calling someone a fag for no reason, a flame? Is calling someone a fag, after articulately disputing their argument, a flame? Are posts with an emphasis on negation, a flame? These moderators don't have a consensus. They interpret flaming individually, and you have sporadic moderation. Until you have a list of very very very very detailed rules, and enforce them in a very fluent unison way, you'll never have a defined forum. I don't think there is too much to moderate, I think there is a misunderstanding on what to moderate.
I dont hold the moderators on a noose because of the influx. The best thing done as of now was the creation of the forum clan (which i am still not a part of cuz i dont spam post :'( ) . there is a good place for goood diablo discussion with in depth intellligent conversations, but i wouldnt really know though would i? lol
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-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
There are huge forums out there that have no trouble supporting a large community while preventing them from flaming (or whatever). These forums do not have detailed rules, they have respected, forceful, and static moderators. Yes, they moderate differently, and one is more aggressive than the other, and there may be disagreements here and there, but that is life, people. Forum rules are imposed by moderators, moderators are imposed by admins, users listen to moderators and adapt to their nasty style, or just leave the forum, and we end up with a community that is in compliance with those moderators. What is wrong with that? Is a melting pot of spammers, trollers, and thread duplicators better than a community of people who look behind their back a bit when posting?
Well moderation is something we consistently disagree on. Not what you see on other forums will be as effective on this forum. Themes are different, website is different, different demographics, different people. It's not the same. This is an Online-RPG game we're discussing. We establish a positive community through aspects of the game. This website has some news articles on the front, and a forum. It's too open ended for discussions. I just think that if you want to reach this ideal diablo community, it needs to start with Umaro, not the moderators. We have alot of mods now, they're deleting plenty of stuff. It's just how the website is structured in general.
where ever you go in this world there will be positive and negative people you just have to deal with it, if it wanst like that who knows what the world would be like now, and a little negative is sometimes a good thing
I dont think he ment "dont argue" in the sense you understood it, SpanishBard.
I think he ment there are quite a few (this didnt start just now, its going on for years) post that go like "its that way go f*ck yourself you WoW lover" without any real points in it. That and calling names for no reason (happens alot too) is something that lowers the quality of the forum and could ultimately drive good people off the forum.
As you do, I love argueing myself, but in a sense that allows people to understand each other and if possible agree to something in the end. Conversations are better than monologues, dont you think? Plus you feel better if you manage to persuade someone in the end
I also noticed many new faces after the announcement of Diablo III, good and "bad" posters. The amount of active posters greatly increased (i get 7-8 pages if i dont check for a day) and i know moderators have a harder time than we used to have say 2007 and i cant really complain about moderation. Establishing some base rules and being harsh on those that break it could help the forum population (if we're not community just yet) improve.
I also noticed many new faces after the announcement of Diablo III, good and "bad" posters. The amount of active posters greatly increased (i get 7-8 pages if i dont check for a day) and i know moderators have a harder time than we used to have say 2007 and i cant really complain about moderation. Establishing some base rules and being harsh on those that break it could help the forum population (if we're not community just yet) improve.
exactly we are a pretty young forum, i mean the first few years had so little users its like they didnt even exist
Establishing some base rules and being harsh on those that break it could help the forum population (if we're not community just yet) improve.
Hear Hear.
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Well moderation is something we consistently disagree on.
Well, we have your proposition of light, fair mods working right now. I guess you like how it is, don't you?
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Not what you see on other forums will be as effective on this forum. Themes are different, website is different, different demographics, different people. It's not the same. This is an Online-RPG game we're discussing. We establish a positive community through aspects of the game. This website has some news articles on the front, and a forum. It's too open ended for discussions. I just think that if you want to reach this ideal diablo community, it needs to start with Umaro, not the moderators. We have alot of mods now, they're deleting plenty of stuff. It's just how the website is structured in general.
I really don't get what you are saying there... I don't see how this website is different from other big websites that do not have info as part of them. I don't see how it's any more open ended than anything else. Nor do I see anything bad with being open ended. The problem is not a lot of topics, it's people posting bad topics, bad posts, etc., - casual problems of any forum of any size, truly. I saw tiny forums moderated worse than ours, and huge forums moderated much better.
Umaro, I think, allows mods to do what they want. Its their forum now. So it's not Umaro. And forum structure got nothing to do with moderation. Best you can do is add infractions but they don't really make people less bearable in their usual complaint of "there is nothing wrong with flame this is just internet cool down man sry i offended your feelings" (thread about Flagship studios recently created in D3 section).
In general, I think that the moderator(s) are trying there best. They/he/she seem to not have much experience in said field though. As with anything, the begining is bound to be rough, but I think that once everything settles down, and the new moderator(s) figure everything out and everything, I think that everything is going to be fine.
That's not to say that I think that all moderator(s) are good. I think there are one/a few/alot of moderators that should never of been given the position. That being said, with training, even the worst moderator(s) could become decent, or even good if they/he/she tried hard enough.
I'm saying that there needs to be SOME regulation concerning mods cause i know for a fact that some mods are on a power trip. We all know wich mod(s) are/is fair and objective. Infact if i remembered correctly then some mods did have powers over other mods, sadly there seems to be no verification to what mods do whatsoever. Seriously, 6 out of 7 infraction points wich i received were completely uncalled for and the reasons stated were either completely contradictive or non-existant, or laughable petty at best, after that i simply got tempbanned by "mod anon", mind you without me posting anything in the meantime. Infact five out of those six infraction points were given to me because i expressed my opinion about a trolling thread (i said; "this thread fails, it is made for trolling") wich ironically got closed because it was a thread made for trolling. Can't get any more surreal then that. That particular mod even refused to answer my PM where i asked for a valid explanation.
I honestly doubt that is the reason you got 6 infractions. I can almost garuntee that you didn't get banned for "expressing your opinion".
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Excuse my lack of enters...Spyware and all that...Sphicnter
well i know some older members remember when me and carlo's got into it a while back. .. . . . i got banned 2 times then... now tho, it's a different thing.
for some odd reason, i tend to get along with everyone, or i just don't spam, flame as much as i used to... you could say?
if you are having trouble with a moderator i do recommend you pm silver about it, usually he's very neutral in everything that i have seen, but if you are in the wrong i'm sure he will let you know..
i very much like the way the forum is ran, at the moment it DOES seem that some new modderators might be on a power trip, and they need to change their attitudes.
they wont make it long as a odderator, in my opinion ofc.
Mods in my "cool?" list
1. ferret
2. silver
3. jetrall
that other dude seems cool, forgot his name, starts with a k i belive.. but still dont know him.
either way, mods keep on doing what your doing. yall are fine, if they break rules just do what you need to.
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We gotta make a change...
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive. Tupac Shakur
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SICK_Paladin 95 Necromancer (12th necro)
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I'm saying that there needs to be SOME regulation concerning mods cause i know for a fact that some mods are on a power trip. We all know wich mod(s) are/is fair and objective. Infact if i remembered correctly then some mods did have powers over other mods, sadly there seems to be no verification to what mods do whatsoever. Seriously, 6 out of 7 infraction points wich i received were completely uncalled for and the reasons stated were either completely contradictive or non-existant, or laughable petty at best, after that i simply got tempbanned by "mod anon", mind you without me posting anything in the meantime. Infact five out of those six infraction points were given to me because i expressed my opinion about a trolling thread (i said; "this thread fails, it is made for trolling") wich ironically got closed because it was a thread made for trolling. Can't get any more surreal then that. That particular mod even refused to answer my PM where i asked for a valid explanation.
I have been told personally that my being perma-banned is a matter of time. (I will not reveal sources.) How long that perma-ban will last, I am unsure, though I highly doubt it to be permenant.
Either way, moderators are not going to change, because none of the moderators are stupid. Every last moderator knows how to twist the system to there advantage. Some moderators have fallen and use said knowledge. Other moderators have risen above and refuse to use said knowledge.
That is niether here nor there though.
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really, amazing.
i have yet to even get close to getting banned...
well i know some older members remember when me and carlo's got into it a while back. .. . . . i got banned 2 times then... now tho, it's a different thing.
for some odd reason, i tend to get along with everyone, or i just don't spam, flame as much as i used to... you could say?
if you are having trouble with a moderator i do recommend you pm silver about it, usually he's very neutral in everything that i have seen, but if you are in the wrong i'm sure he will let you know..
i very much like the way the forum is ran, at the moment it DOES seem that some new modderators might be on a power trip, and they need to change their attitudes.
they wont make it long as a odderator, in my opinion ofc.
Mods in my "cool?" list
1. ferret
2. silver
3. jetrall
that other dude seems cool, forgot his name, starts with a k i belive.. but still dont know him.
either way, mods keep on doing what your doing. yall are fine, if they break rules just do what you need to.
Moderators are not doing fine. Moderators need to have more guidelines. Example:
One moderator is a Hindu. Another is a Christian. Someone says "HOLY COW!" Another person says "JESUS CHRIST!" Both are seen by both moderators. Which would you expect to see removed first? The Christian one, of course.
Another example:
You have a Liberal moderator. You also have a Conservative moderator. One user says that the Government is going to hell. Another says that George Bush is wonderful and has done nothing but good. Both are contradictary to the moderator holding the opposing view point. Which do you believe will be removed first? The one insulting the Conservative of course.
The main cause of this is not view points. It is completely fine to have view points. It is because moderators are humans. Humans are bias. Allow me to repeat that. Humans are bias. Just one more time. Humans are bias. And for those that didn't read that. Humans are bias. Thusly, Moderators are bias towards there view points. Bias moderators are bad moderators.
Do not take what I am saying wrong. I am not calling any moderator(s) of DiabloFans.com bad. I am not calling them anything. I am simply making a point.
(By the way, the K guy is AlphaX. He changed his name.)
In my closing statement of this post, I would like to say that I have the utmost respect for anyone who would honestly attempt such a job. I belive it to be the hardest thing on these forums, for it is the moderators that are on the front lines. However, as was said in an old comic, then again in an old movie, "With great power, comes great responsibility." Every moderator will have to make a decision, to sway to his/her human side and accept there bias, or to stand up, to be fair, to treat others the way they would like to be treated. ...I think I remember hearing that...in some book...
alpha, that son of a bitch, cant even tell me he changed his name...
naw i want a name change... no wonder i have never seen the k guy before... LOL
dude they are doing good as mods, let it be.
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We gotta make a change...
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive. Tupac Shakur
100% Legit baal runners SICK_Bambi 93 Barb (46th barb)
SICK_Paladin 95 Necromancer (12th necro)
SICK_ferret 95 Assassin (10th sin) ~~us West Ladder~~
alpha, that son of a bitch, cant even tell me he changed his name...
naw i want a name change... no wonder i have never seen the k guy before... LOL
dude they are doing good as mods, let it be.
Ya that confused me as well. luckily i clicked " krow's" profile link and he explained he was formerly Alphax.
Thanks for the shout out to a few post back.
Many of the newer mods were brought on during the chaotic time of d3's announcement. They did an excellent job of stepping up to the plate during a hectic time. Yes many post were moved/deleted/reported or moded for content, but just like with any new position You are given. You try to show you are right for the job. many of the newer mods have become more laxed now in their positions and the rest will follow face in due time
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I've been talking with Requiem a tad bit, and following said chit chat I began the hunt for threads with reportable posts. When I already had 7 or so reports on the second page, with plenty more to go, of a thread, I decided to stop and come post this.
I'm new here, fully understood, and I don't want to be the rookie who joins up and thinks he doesn't need a good 5-10 years before making suggestions to the Board or CEO. I'm really hoping this post isn't perceived by you ladies and gents in a bad way.
All of these sarcastic, insulting, and so on, I'm sure you all have plenty of knowledge of where I'm going with this - please, I beg you for every respectable member here as well as yourselves - that these kind of people need to go away. There's so many already, I know. I think if the members begin helping you moderators bust ass, very soon you can log on, come check Diablo III news, see what's happening with everyone, and make a quality response to a quality insight WITHOUT needing to see "27 reports," "You're wrong, you this and that."
I've been on a forum where maybe every 2 months one of these people come along, and you can guess how quickly they are dealt with. It's not very hard to make a rule abiding post, and it is clear as day most of these people just do not care.
This action, getting rid of these individuals or squaring them away will make for a very enjoyable forum, hell, scratch that, it will turn this forum into a community, and a future family of Diablo III teammates without anyone causing problems. These type of people make it harder for the community on the forum, and will make the experience on Diablo III suck or at least not benefit its improvement.
I look forward to the day a thread nor post gets deleted, no post reported, and no negative posts made. I've seen what can happen from a positive forum, and it's an absolutely beautiful thing. You have nothing but looking forward to visiting it even if just for a moment or two, and any disappointment would be a huge shock that is rare. It is very possible.
I hope this ignites change for the good.
There's already enough negative people outside.
Who wants to come home, get onto the PC they paid money for, sign onto the internet they continue to pay money for, soon to be log onto the Diablo III they will pay money for and experience more negative people?
And then you moderators have to, on top of that, go through the motions of mediating and having to discipline and penalize people.
This shouldn't be a second job or hash doubts in the back of the mind.
This should be absolute, pure fun and intercommunicable excitement for our future Christmas present from Old Saint Blizz.
I look forward to the discussion.
Respectfully,
SEAL
33,000 registered members. Only 50 of them seem to be posting, I recognize names already.
If you can't moderate people without post reporting you need to hire more mods.
I'm not saying there are certain aspects of this forum I wouldn't change. For instance, I hate kids who can't spell worth a damn. Too bad we can't ban people for bad english. I hate kids who DON'T research the forum for other threads with the SAME discussion. Especially when it's a very easy simple thing to do. I wish they could all be banned. If you can articulate yourself, if you're of a somewhat intelligent nature, I don't care what you do, or what you say. This is a forum. It's a medium of conversation. I don't want to restrict the conversation. I want to restrict the lack of.
You're approaching this website more than it actually is. what you're asking is almost unachievable by its current status It's a Diablo 3 fan site. The way you imagine this site, it sounds like you want a strong community, with a very heavy emphasis on Diablo 3(obviously). Aside from the daily news that a couple staff members post on the front page. This is a very open ended site. We provide NOTHING but a forum. This forum is the core of the website, and a forum is a difficult place establish community. It must be done on a webmaster/admin level. Certain admins have the ability to design the webpage to appropriately establish a stronger community. We don't provide tutorials. We don't provide a very organized article listing, our main archives are researching the forums.
Now let's pretend we could form this awesome community that you're suggesting. We would need to focus on rules. The world works from rules. We need standards that are comprehendible. You should never have a rule that is ambiguous, or can be misinterpreted. You'll find 1 moderator doing something completely different than another. There is a rule that says no flaming... What is flaming? Is calling someone a fag for no reason, a flame? Is calling someone a fag, after articulately disputing their argument, a flame? Are posts with an emphasis on negation, a flame? These moderators don't have a consensus. They interpret flaming individually, and you have sporadic moderation. Until you have a list of very very very very detailed rules, and enforce them in a very fluent unison way, you'll never have a defined forum. I don't think there is too much to moderate, I think there is a misunderstanding on what to moderate.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
I think he ment there are quite a few (this didnt start just now, its going on for years) post that go like "its that way go f*ck yourself you WoW lover" without any real points in it. That and calling names for no reason (happens alot too) is something that lowers the quality of the forum and could ultimately drive good people off the forum.
As you do, I love argueing myself, but in a sense that allows people to understand each other and if possible agree to something in the end. Conversations are better than monologues, dont you think? Plus you feel better if you manage to persuade someone in the end
I also noticed many new faces after the announcement of Diablo III, good and "bad" posters. The amount of active posters greatly increased (i get 7-8 pages if i dont check for a day) and i know moderators have a harder time than we used to have say 2007 and i cant really complain about moderation. Establishing some base rules and being harsh on those that break it could help the forum population (if we're not community just yet) improve.
Well, we have your proposition of light, fair mods working right now. I guess you like how it is, don't you?
I really don't get what you are saying there... I don't see how this website is different from other big websites that do not have info as part of them. I don't see how it's any more open ended than anything else. Nor do I see anything bad with being open ended. The problem is not a lot of topics, it's people posting bad topics, bad posts, etc., - casual problems of any forum of any size, truly. I saw tiny forums moderated worse than ours, and huge forums moderated much better.
Umaro, I think, allows mods to do what they want. Its their forum now. So it's not Umaro. And forum structure got nothing to do with moderation. Best you can do is add infractions but they don't really make people less bearable in their usual complaint of "there is nothing wrong with flame this is just internet cool down man sry i offended your feelings" (thread about Flagship studios recently created in D3 section).
That's not to say that I think that all moderator(s) are good. I think there are one/a few/alot of moderators that should never of been given the position. That being said, with training, even the worst moderator(s) could become decent, or even good if they/he/she tried hard enough.
I honestly doubt that is the reason you got 6 infractions. I can almost garuntee that you didn't get banned for "expressing your opinion".
Excuse my lack of enters...Spyware and all that...Sphicnter
i have yet to even get close to getting banned...
well i know some older members remember when me and carlo's got into it a while back. .. . . . i got banned 2 times then... now tho, it's a different thing.
for some odd reason, i tend to get along with everyone, or i just don't spam, flame as much as i used to... you could say?
if you are having trouble with a moderator i do recommend you pm silver about it, usually he's very neutral in everything that i have seen, but if you are in the wrong i'm sure he will let you know..
i very much like the way the forum is ran, at the moment it DOES seem that some new modderators might be on a power trip, and they need to change their attitudes.
they wont make it long as a odderator, in my opinion ofc.
Mods in my "cool?" list
1. ferret
2. silver
3. jetrall
that other dude seems cool, forgot his name, starts with a k i belive.. but still dont know him.
either way, mods keep on doing what your doing. yall are fine, if they break rules just do what you need to.
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive.
Tupac Shakur
100% Legit baal runners
SICK_Bambi 93 Barb (46th barb)
SICK_Paladin 95 Necromancer (12th necro)
SICK_ferret 95 Assassin (10th sin)
~~us West Ladder~~
I have been told personally that my being perma-banned is a matter of time. (I will not reveal sources.) How long that perma-ban will last, I am unsure, though I highly doubt it to be permenant.
Either way, moderators are not going to change, because none of the moderators are stupid. Every last moderator knows how to twist the system to there advantage. Some moderators have fallen and use said knowledge. Other moderators have risen above and refuse to use said knowledge.
That is niether here nor there though.
Moderators are not doing fine. Moderators need to have more guidelines. Example:
One moderator is a Hindu. Another is a Christian. Someone says "HOLY COW!" Another person says "JESUS CHRIST!" Both are seen by both moderators. Which would you expect to see removed first? The Christian one, of course.
Another example:
You have a Liberal moderator. You also have a Conservative moderator. One user says that the Government is going to hell. Another says that George Bush is wonderful and has done nothing but good. Both are contradictary to the moderator holding the opposing view point. Which do you believe will be removed first? The one insulting the Conservative of course.
The main cause of this is not view points. It is completely fine to have view points. It is because moderators are humans. Humans are bias. Allow me to repeat that. Humans are bias. Just one more time. Humans are bias. And for those that didn't read that. Humans are bias. Thusly, Moderators are bias towards there view points. Bias moderators are bad moderators.
Do not take what I am saying wrong. I am not calling any moderator(s) of DiabloFans.com bad. I am not calling them anything. I am simply making a point.
(By the way, the K guy is AlphaX. He changed his name.)
In my closing statement of this post, I would like to say that I have the utmost respect for anyone who would honestly attempt such a job. I belive it to be the hardest thing on these forums, for it is the moderators that are on the front lines. However, as was said in an old comic, then again in an old movie, "With great power, comes great responsibility." Every moderator will have to make a decision, to sway to his/her human side and accept there bias, or to stand up, to be fair, to treat others the way they would like to be treated. ...I think I remember hearing that...in some book...
naw i want a name change... no wonder i have never seen the k guy before... LOL
dude they are doing good as mods, let it be.
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive.
Tupac Shakur
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Make a request and see if they will change your name for you then.
Also, yea. I didn't realize it at first. Someone had to tell me.
Obviously you ignored a majority of my post if that is the best rebuttle you can come up with.
Ya that confused me as well. luckily i clicked " krow's" profile link and he explained he was formerly Alphax.
Thanks for the shout out to a few post back.
Many of the newer mods were brought on during the chaotic time of d3's announcement. They did an excellent job of stepping up to the plate during a hectic time. Yes many post were moved/deleted/reported or moded for content, but just like with any new position You are given. You try to show you are right for the job. many of the newer mods have become more laxed now in their positions and the rest will follow face in due time