When i check the AH i cant find affordable items to upgrade mines. I have 1.2 millions of gold at the moment and i cant seem to increase the amount whatever i do. How do you make millions of gold? I looked everywhere for answers but couldn't find anything satisfactory. I hope i will get help from you folks. Thanks in advance.
I'm playing a barbarian on EU side in case it's worth mentioning...
I generally try to be more possitive, but with the current state of the economy, and the low chance (minimal) of a good drop, the possibility of you, or any player for that matter, of growing in wealth is near zero in the short and mid term. ...well... not in a "fun" kind of way at least. Let me tell you that unless you are immensely lucky and find that perfectly rolled legendary, or trifecta glove/ring/amy, then the only way of creating wealth in this game is by: A) Flipping items in the AH (buying underpriced stuff only to sell it for what its really worth, making a marginal profit) Spending real world cash in the RMAH, aka... Buying your way up in the game. Just as an example... I found a Whitching Hour belt yesterday (lvl63 legendary), the best belt in game for many classes. Since my roll was low on the main stat, (90 int) and since main stat is such a deciding factor on the current state of the game, well... Long story made short, my belt aint worth crap (not enough for the 100-200mill needed to make an upgrade on my monk)
My only interest in gold is to upgrade my gear and progress into higher monster power levels. Just an example; i looked up an immortal king's chest on ah only to find the cheapest one to be 17mil. It's not looking possible for me anytime soon...
the farther this game goes along, the less in-game means will be able to sustain you. The decreasing cost of gold will always drive up the value of really rare equipment, and it will be at a larger rate than the value of mediocre/good equipment. So the money you find in game and the value of stuff you can find on a regular basis will be worth less and less over time. The only way to keep up with the inflation of top tier goods is to flip items on the AH or buy gold.
These topics come up often and are always replied with the same "Farm more.", which doesn't help the OP in any way.
I've gone from 5 million to 15 million just selling gems. I have recipes for Star cuts of each color and I just farm until I have no more of the crappy rares up on the AH(the ones that sell for like 25k >.>). By that time, I usually have 100-150 Flawless gems and I just use the tomes I pick up and make gems until I am out. Then I put up everything, except Flawless, on the AH. Usually takes about a day to sell everything with the occasional re-list.
Also, right now Inferno Essences are going for quite a bit. Although they are going down in price again. If you have some, I'd sell those off if you need money right now.
However, if you want to invest, the new crafting recipes in 1.0.7 might use Essences/Tears, you can start picking up Blues during your farm runes and salvaging them. It's a bit of a gamble, though. You might end up with a whole bunch of essences worth 500g a piece :|
Hope this helps! Good luck
edit:
I almost forgot, use this site for looking at prices. Helps a ton.
These topics come up often and are always replied with the same "Farm more.", which doesn't help the OP in any way.
I've gone from 5 million to 15 million just selling gems. I have recipes for Star cuts of each color and I just farm until I have no more of the crappy rares up on the AH(the ones that sell for like 25k >.>). By that time, I usually have 100-150 Flawless gems and I just use the tomes I pick up and make gems until I am out. Then I put up everything, except Flawless, on the AH. Usually takes about a day to sell everything with the occasional re-list.
Also, right now Inferno Essences are going for quite a bit. Although they are going down in price again. If you have some, I'd sell those off if you need money right now.
However, if you want to invest, the new crafting recipes in 1.0.7 might use Essences/Tears, you can start picking up Blues during your farm runes and salvaging them. It's a bit of a gamble, though. You might end up with a whole bunch of essences worth 500g a piece :|
Hope this helps! Good luck
edit:
I almost forgot, use this site for looking at prices. Helps a ton.
Thank you very much to you and all the positive replies everyone made...
Making money for me has been done in two ways. Selling the items I find and from flipping items I find selling cheap on the AH and on the RMAH. Do not neglect the rares. I have sold a ton of rares for millions.
These topics come up often and are always replied with the same "Farm more.", which doesn't help the OP in any way.
I've gone from 5 million to 15 million just selling gems. I have recipes for Star cuts of each color and I just farm until I have no more of the crappy rares up on the AH(the ones that sell for like 25k >.>). By that time, I usually have 100-150 Flawless gems and I just use the tomes I pick up and make gems until I am out. Then I put up everything, except Flawless, on the AH. Usually takes about a day to sell everything with the occasional re-list.
Also, right now Inferno Essences are going for quite a bit. Although they are going down in price again. If you have some, I'd sell those off if you need money right now.
However, if you want to invest, the new crafting recipes in 1.0.7 might use Essences/Tears, you can start picking up Blues during your farm runes and salvaging them. It's a bit of a gamble, though. You might end up with a whole bunch of essences worth 500g a piece :|
Hope this helps! Good luck
edit:
I almost forgot, use this site for looking at prices. Helps a ton.
I gave you rep now because that's solid advice. I do the same but I never actually thought of saying it as it's a path travelled less often. It's good advice if you have no intention of using the gems on your characters.
But it IS still farming, you're just farming for something else, though it can actually be considered passive farming as it's usually not your main focus.
These topics come up often and are always replied with the same "Farm more.", which doesn't help the OP in any way.
I've gone from 5 million to 15 million just selling gems. I have recipes for Star cuts of each color and I just farm until I have no more of the crappy rares up on the AH(the ones that sell for like 25k >.>). By that time, I usually have 100-150 Flawless gems and I just use the tomes I pick up and make gems until I am out. Then I put up everything, except Flawless, on the AH. Usually takes about a day to sell everything with the occasional re-list.
Also, right now Inferno Essences are going for quite a bit. Although they are going down in price again. If you have some, I'd sell those off if you need money right now.
However, if you want to invest, the new crafting recipes in 1.0.7 might use Essences/Tears, you can start picking up Blues during your farm runes and salvaging them. It's a bit of a gamble, though. You might end up with a whole bunch of essences worth 500g a piece :|
Hope this helps! Good luck
edit:
I almost forgot, use this site for looking at prices. Helps a ton.
I gave you rep now because that's solid advice. I do the same but I never actually thought of saying it as it's a path travelled less often. It's good advice if you have no intention of using the gems on your characters.
But it IS still farming, you're just farming for something else, though it can actually be considered passive farming as it's usually not your main focus.
Thanks
It is still farming, yes. But, the difference between farming for rares or legendary items and gems is the same as just picking up gold during runs: it's a consistent income, which is what I think the OP is asking for. With that said, I hate it when someone is asking for legit advice and they get mediocre answers. I've been on the OPs side of the fence many times and have gotten the same treatment.
My only interest in gold is to upgrade my gear and progress into higher monster power levels. Just an example; i looked up an immortal king's chest on ah only to find the cheapest one to be 17mil. It's not looking possible for me anytime soon...
Thats the problem right there. So many "trendy" legendaries are way overpriced even more if you consider the fact that an equal rare is like 10 times cheaper...There is no need for an lk chest. You dont need vile wards. Learn how to gear up without those overpriced legendaries and you will find decent upgrades for less then like 2 or 3mil on the ah.
For like 10mil total anyone could get a decent barb capable speed farming mp0/1 and doing higher mps for keys and/or ubers. 10mil is kinda easy to come by. Farm like 1 week. Pickup all the gold along the way and just sell any crap rolled item to the vendor. Check ah for items what you think they could be worth something and list those. If they dont sell either lower the pricetag or sell em to the vendor and keep farming.
And one tip for free: Armor with goldfind+pickup no matter what stats they got selling good and fast...Rings/Amu with gf sells as well. Boots with gf+pickup+12%ms = easy 1mil. While farming you find plenty of goldfind items and its easy money.
I cannot emphasize this advice enough. You have to play an anti role when it comes to guides mostly. An example:
Guy makes guide that says [LEGENDARY ITEM] is the best DPS per 1g on the market. The price of that item is going to go up, if you have the capital you can buy the stats he specifically lists in the guide and re sell them or look at the stats he's wanting and search for rares. Items like the Immortal Kings chest are good, and as stated, you can buy equal stats or a bit less for way, way, cheaper. You just have to ask yourself what stats are useful on the legendary and search for rares.
As time goes on you will be able to find cheaper gear on the auction. As of now, you can find gear that isn't rolled perfectly for drastically reduced prices. An example of this would be looking for bracers with 5.5% crit instead of 6%, or rings at 3.5% crit instead of 4%. Items with 9% attack speed are very expensive but 8% not as much. Vile Ward was mentioned and it has the same rules. On US servers you can buy a Vile Ward with Life % instead of Vitality for a lower price. Play around with the number thresholds, you'd be surprised on what you can buy if you put in 190 strength instead of 200.
If you're just starting to play (less than 10K elite kills with your main character) the best thing you can do to earn gold is by farming and picking up rares and then vendoring. Get some gold find too. You should be able to do 1M per hour just by farming.
Only really a few ways to get gold. Farm like crazy and pick up everything, selling the good rares/legendaries and selling the mats from the blues. Or invest $$ in the RMAH and buy gold. For around $20 you can get like 70+ million or so. I would say play the AH, but since you dont have enough to get started buying items to flip, that option isnt really available.
It's also worth mentioning that when farming it's generally not worth picking up and identifying every rare that drops.
If you have low amounts of gold and are struggling to get more, this is the worst advice in the world. Yes, picking up rares and vendoring them is typically not worth it because it slows down your runs and in effect of that slows down the potential to get better drops.
I would like to point out that Essences and Tears will be steadily increasing in price until the apex happens. With a Goldskin, picking up every blue and rare, I am making very good gold given that I have yet to find that big rare/legendary that's worth more than 500k.
Your basically between a rock and a hard place.
The good items that you want are sky rocketing in price.
The okish items you find are plumeting in price.
(the imk chests are significantly down in price unless your trying to find a 200 vit one)
Diablo is a lottery ticket system for getting rich.
Every ring, weapon, and legendary could potentially net you millions but for the most part they do not.
The money you get is going to be broken up into:
1. money you pick up (gold find and pickup radius along with a solid 24% move speed will really help this) mp 0 runs will really help the gold per hour
2. consumables you pickup (know the gems: emeralds sell for 5k, if you don't pass up 5k pots of gold you might want to try clicking on some emeralds)
3. Rares you vendor - even if you can't ah them they sell for 3-4 k
4. rares you ah - these are your bread and butter things gold find + pickup, magic find all resist main stat (always put a buyout on these)
5. Lottery ticket rares - These are your 10 mil -???? mil items
The majority of your money is actually going to come from the lottery ticket rares.
If you haven't hit one yet you are going to be poor.
At high paragon levels you easily get 200-300k gold per alk run (which takes 7-11 min)
-It takes 50 runs of gold find to equal one good rare/legendary (around 9 hours)
Do NOT stop to pickup gold or the rares other people have mentioned (2 handers, quivers, masks, spirit stones, bows, crossbows lvl 58 weapons)
What your looking for is the legends, gloves, weapons, rings, and amulets.
Do not stop to kill packs that run away from you. It should take 30 sec to locate and kill a pack of mobs if your messing around with a pack of casters that spread out you are wasting your time.
When your just starting out it is hard to play the ah and snipe auctions, mainly because there is a horde of other people trying to snipe auctions as well. What I have found is that if I buy gear for myself, and then re-list it for a substantial profit when i'm not playing you can turn a tidy profit without the same amount of risk.
*(hang on to the old item so you don't get left without pants)
The biggest mistake you can make is not recognizing a godly item for another class and listing it cheaply. This can easily be a 60-80 mil mistake. I had a friend that found a good lacuni got 26 mil and was really happy about it, but the lacuni was in the 90 mil plus range...
1. Achieve gear that can easily clear mp0 act 3.
2. Farm til Paragon 100 (while not spending)
3. Picking up anything under L63 yellows will only slow you down.
4. Pick up only jewelries/legends if you are really efficient.
5. Hope to land a quintfecta ammy.
I'm playing a barbarian on EU side in case it's worth mentioning...
...well... not in a "fun" kind of way at least.
Let me tell you that unless you are immensely lucky and find that perfectly rolled legendary, or trifecta glove/ring/amy, then the only way of creating wealth in this game is by:
A) Flipping items in the AH (buying underpriced stuff only to sell it for what its really worth, making a marginal profit)
Spending real world cash in the RMAH, aka... Buying your way up in the game.
Just as an example... I found a Whitching Hour belt yesterday (lvl63 legendary), the best belt in game for many classes.
Since my roll was low on the main stat, (90 int) and since main stat is such a deciding factor on the current state of the game, well... Long story made short, my belt aint worth crap (not enough for the 100-200mill needed to make an upgrade on my monk)
Equiped it on my alt char, an acid rain WD.
Currently played toon: https://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Rage-2973/hero/97362116
I've gone from 5 million to 15 million just selling gems. I have recipes for Star cuts of each color and I just farm until I have no more of the crappy rares up on the AH(the ones that sell for like 25k >.>). By that time, I usually have 100-150 Flawless gems and I just use the tomes I pick up and make gems until I am out. Then I put up everything, except Flawless, on the AH. Usually takes about a day to sell everything with the occasional re-list.
Also, right now Inferno Essences are going for quite a bit. Although they are going down in price again. If you have some, I'd sell those off if you need money right now.
However, if you want to invest, the new crafting recipes in 1.0.7 might use Essences/Tears, you can start picking up Blues during your farm runes and salvaging them. It's a bit of a gamble, though. You might end up with a whole bunch of essences worth 500g a piece :|
Hope this helps! Good luck
edit:
I almost forgot, use this site for looking at prices. Helps a ton.
I gave you rep now because that's solid advice. I do the same but I never actually thought of saying it as it's a path travelled less often. It's good advice if you have no intention of using the gems on your characters.
But it IS still farming, you're just farming for something else, though it can actually be considered passive farming as it's usually not your main focus.
Thanks
It is still farming, yes. But, the difference between farming for rares or legendary items and gems is the same as just picking up gold during runs: it's a consistent income, which is what I think the OP is asking for. With that said, I hate it when someone is asking for legit advice and they get mediocre answers. I've been on the OPs side of the fence many times and have gotten the same treatment.
I cannot emphasize this advice enough. You have to play an anti role when it comes to guides mostly. An example:
Guy makes guide that says [LEGENDARY ITEM] is the best DPS per 1g on the market. The price of that item is going to go up, if you have the capital you can buy the stats he specifically lists in the guide and re sell them or look at the stats he's wanting and search for rares. Items like the Immortal Kings chest are good, and as stated, you can buy equal stats or a bit less for way, way, cheaper. You just have to ask yourself what stats are useful on the legendary and search for rares.
As time goes on you will be able to find cheaper gear on the auction. As of now, you can find gear that isn't rolled perfectly for drastically reduced prices. An example of this would be looking for bracers with 5.5% crit instead of 6%, or rings at 3.5% crit instead of 4%. Items with 9% attack speed are very expensive but 8% not as much. Vile Ward was mentioned and it has the same rules. On US servers you can buy a Vile Ward with Life % instead of Vitality for a lower price. Play around with the number thresholds, you'd be surprised on what you can buy if you put in 190 strength instead of 200.
Other than that, dont know what else to tell ya.
If you have low amounts of gold and are struggling to get more, this is the worst advice in the world. Yes, picking up rares and vendoring them is typically not worth it because it slows down your runs and in effect of that slows down the potential to get better drops.
I would like to point out that Essences and Tears will be steadily increasing in price until the apex happens. With a Goldskin, picking up every blue and rare, I am making very good gold given that I have yet to find that big rare/legendary that's worth more than 500k.
The good items that you want are sky rocketing in price.
The okish items you find are plumeting in price.
(the imk chests are significantly down in price unless your trying to find a 200 vit one)
Diablo is a lottery ticket system for getting rich.
Every ring, weapon, and legendary could potentially net you millions but for the most part they do not.
The money you get is going to be broken up into:
1. money you pick up (gold find and pickup radius along with a solid 24% move speed will really help this) mp 0 runs will really help the gold per hour
2. consumables you pickup (know the gems: emeralds sell for 5k, if you don't pass up 5k pots of gold you might want to try clicking on some emeralds)
3. Rares you vendor - even if you can't ah them they sell for 3-4 k
4. rares you ah - these are your bread and butter things gold find + pickup, magic find all resist main stat (always put a buyout on these)
5. Lottery ticket rares - These are your 10 mil -???? mil items
The majority of your money is actually going to come from the lottery ticket rares.
If you haven't hit one yet you are going to be poor.
At high paragon levels you easily get 200-300k gold per alk run (which takes 7-11 min)
-It takes 50 runs of gold find to equal one good rare/legendary (around 9 hours)
Do NOT stop to pickup gold or the rares other people have mentioned (2 handers, quivers, masks, spirit stones, bows, crossbows lvl 58 weapons)
What your looking for is the legends, gloves, weapons, rings, and amulets.
Do not stop to kill packs that run away from you. It should take 30 sec to locate and kill a pack of mobs if your messing around with a pack of casters that spread out you are wasting your time.
When your just starting out it is hard to play the ah and snipe auctions, mainly because there is a horde of other people trying to snipe auctions as well. What I have found is that if I buy gear for myself, and then re-list it for a substantial profit when i'm not playing you can turn a tidy profit without the same amount of risk.
*(hang on to the old item so you don't get left without pants)
The biggest mistake you can make is not recognizing a godly item for another class and listing it cheaply. This can easily be a 60-80 mil mistake. I had a friend that found a good lacuni got 26 mil and was really happy about it, but the lacuni was in the 90 mil plus range...
good luck with the farming
When prices are low, its a good time to buy. What you find will sell for less.
When your clear rate is fast, you'll find more loot. This is profitable no matter if prices are high or low.
TL;DR. Try to increase clear rate. If prices are low buy to boost your gear, If prices are high, sell to fund your spending.
If you follow a man who is dropping money on the street, you are efficient.
If you are picking up only the large bills, you are effective.
Try to be efficient by choosing good farm routes and not stray off.
Try to be effective by not picking up blues and every last rare.
1. Achieve gear that can easily clear mp0 act 3.
2. Farm til Paragon 100 (while not spending)
3. Picking up anything under L63 yellows will only slow you down.
4. Pick up only jewelries/legends if you are really efficient.
5. Hope to land a quintfecta ammy.
No man is sane who does not know how to be insane on proper occasions.