I agree with you Mahamoti.
The only people I see who care about this next installment are the very people who think PvM is hard in Diablo. Which happens to be the very people I probably killed thousands of times and made them cry because well they just arn't very good at the game obviously if they feel PvM is hard in Diablo.
I can live with the graphics, as long as they stay isometric and require aiming with your skills no auto aim bull like WoW, this is Diablo people not WoW.
Inventory system was a major part of Diablo and look what they do...they remove it with WoW. Now whoever said the inventory system was flaw because it was frustrating to get an item while monsters attacked you...quit playing the game you obviously weren't good.
Auto stats...heres a good one. Lets stop cookie cutter models by limiting your custimization. Lets add these rune words to skills so that everyone can use the same skill in the end and be cookie cuttered. If anyone tries to disagree with me on this, please I beg of you explain yourself and tell me how 7 runes will make the customization any better then stat points, you know damn well in the end everyone will have same skills for that class.
And respeccing..another great thing about Diablo that set the good players from the bad.
Now it seems to me that lets look at history: Diablo 1 was EXTREMELY hardcore, no hostility button, just straight slaughter. D2 came out and made the game less extreme and more catering toward people who couldn't cut it and from the looks of it the development team couldn't cut it. Now d2 was still to extreme when it came out so every patch they did they catered more and more to the crying of kids who couldn't cut it, no more loot, no more hostile tps, no more fast wps when hostile, hell even wtih .10 they pretty much made you connect the dots to your skills with the synergies pretty much telling you which builds were the best ( Go blizzard for custimization!!!!!! no more cookie cutter even tho they started the cookie cutter !!!! ). Now d3 comes out and what does it do...removes hostility thus far, removes stat points so its IMPOSSIBLE to make a mistake and learn or to differentiate your character from others, the developers make WEAK and I mean WEAK reasons for any of their actions, they "adress" all the problems from d2 but what are those problems? Those problems are nothing more but tears from the kids and developers who couldn't cut it, those were from the people who think PvM in Diablo is hard.
Now I know alot of you are gonna be angry with me for stating the fact and pretty much saying you suck at the game ( Which you probably do if you disagree with me ), but bottom line is Diablo may of been meant for PvM and co-op, but that doesn't mean anything because Diablo IS not PvM and it and it's hardcore community derive around PvP and you can't pussify PvP children.
I love this quote from a developer who says they are making your guys epicly strong and godlike but they expect PvM to be hard...what a laugh and what a way to kill a franchise.
Take a look at SC2 kiddies thats a real game, thats a real sequal...take note D3 developers, you suck and need to quit ASAP cause all your "changes" are taking out the core of the game and without the core what do you have beside a crappy game with the name Diablo?
Exactly I always get excited to reinstall it or start playing again, and about an hour into it I'm bored senseless again, so I play for as long as I can then lose interest.
That's exactly what happens with me. I'm forcing myself to get shit done with the Barbarian now though.
OK, it's getting really old making repeated comparisons between D3 and WoW. Did it ever occur to you that Warcraft used to be only an RTS? WoW drew most of its inspiration from Diablo 2. That would mean, by extension, that taking inspiration from WoW means taking inspiration from Diablo 2.
I agree with you Mahamoti.
The only people I see who care about this next installment are the very people who think PvM is hard in Diablo. Which happens to be the very people I probably killed thousands of times and made them cry because well they just arn't very good at the game obviously if they feel PvM is hard in Diablo.
I can live with the graphics, as long as they stay isometric and require aiming with your skills no auto aim bull like WoW, this is Diablo people not WoW.
Inventory system was a major part of Diablo and look what they do...they remove it with WoW. Now whoever said the inventory system was flaw because it was frustrating to get an item while monsters attacked you...quit playing the game you obviously weren't good.
Auto stats...heres a good one. Lets stop cookie cutter models by limiting your custimization. Lets add these rune words to skills so that everyone can use the same skill in the end and be cookie cuttered. If anyone tries to disagree with me on this, please I beg of you explain yourself and tell me how 7 runes will make the customization any better then stat points, you know damn well in the end everyone will have same skills for that class.
And respeccing..another great thing about Diablo that set the good players from the bad.
Now it seems to me that lets look at history: Diablo 1 was EXTREMELY hardcore, no hostility button, just straight slaughter. D2 came out and made the game less extreme and more catering toward people who couldn't cut it and from the looks of it the development team couldn't cut it. Now d2 was still to extreme when it came out so every patch they did they catered more and more to the crying of kids who couldn't cut it, no more loot, no more hostile tps, no more fast wps when hostile, hell even wtih .10 they pretty much made you connect the dots to your skills with the synergies pretty much telling you which builds were the best ( Go blizzard for custimization!!!!!! no more cookie cutter even tho they started the cookie cutter !!!! ). Now d3 comes out and what does it do...removes hostility thus far, removes stat points so its IMPOSSIBLE to make a mistake and learn or to differentiate your character from others, the developers make WEAK and I mean WEAK reasons for any of their actions, they "adress" all the problems from d2 but what are those problems? Those problems are nothing more but tears from the kids and developers who couldn't cut it, those were from the people who think PvM in Diablo is hard.
Now I know alot of you are gonna be angry with me for stating the fact and pretty much saying you suck at the game ( Which you probably do if you disagree with me ), but bottom line is Diablo may of been meant for PvM and co-op, but that doesn't mean anything because Diablo IS not PvM and it and it's hardcore community derive around PvP and you can't pussify PvP children.
I love this quote from a developer who says they are making your guys epicly strong and godlike but they expect PvM to be hard...what a laugh and what a way to kill a franchise.
Take a look at SC2 kiddies thats a real game, thats a real sequal...take note D3 developers, you suck and need to quit ASAP cause all your "changes" are taking out the core of the game and without the core what do you have beside a crappy game with the name Diablo?
I'll assume you are one of the pussies that played on bnet with all your rushes dupes and baal runs. Pvm wasnt hard for you because you exploited the multiplayer aspect. Diablo 2 single player was one of the hardest gaming experiences of my life. What they are trying to do is make multiplayer closer to the singleplayer experience in terms of difficulty.
The inventory was a "minor" part of the game that hasn't changed much. You still have a limit of how much you can carry and you can still see your items.
the seven runes will make each class have around 280 different spells.
You mean "separates the build googlers from the build learners"?
You seem like a pking asshole. The major flaw with diablo 2 multiplayer was the sheer amount of assholes. I blame environment of d2 multiplayer for being conducive to assholery. By implementing a pvp arena the assholes will have a place to get together and compare the size of their virtual cocks. Instead of barging in and killing someone who is simply trying to enjoy the pvm aspect with their friends. I DEFY you to find a single "WEAK" reason they have given for changing the Diablo series.
That was probably the most thick headed, one dimensional, shit fest, of a post I have ever seen. (well...)
Take a look at SC2 kiddies thats a real game, thats a real sequal...take note D3 developers, you suck and need to quit ASAP cause all your "changes" are taking out the core of the game and without the core what do you have beside a crappy game with the name Diablo?
Man Your talking alot of shit for a guy who's not liking the development of D3 but still waisting his time on DiabloFans.com cuz he's so giddy about the next Diablo3 coming out. Ok lets analyse your near retarded post that you just made and try to find something half true or slightly possible.
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The only people I see who care about this next installment are the very people who think PvM is hard in Diablo. Which happens to be the very people I probably killed thousands of times and made them cry because well they just arn't very good at the game obviously if they feel PvM is hard in Diablo.
Well, though I do believe some monsters are brutal in D2 such as Stygians Dolls, or Unique fast enchanted Blood Lords. I would say that PvM wasn't too challenging if you followed the cookie cutter builds. (Which you definately did since u were apparently bored with Hell PvM.) However did you ever try a non perfected build with no 350+ points in Vitality..Not so simple in Hell. However I'm getting beside the point, the point is I loved dueling, wasn't crappy at it, had lots of success and destroyed PvM with some of my chars as well, however I still DO care about the game so obviously your last statement is either wrong or you simply haven't seen many people at all around here. I doubt you killed them or me a thousand times, and I can guarantee you haven't made anyone out here cry exept if Blizz were to come and read your comment they would probably cry in laughter.
I can live with the graphics, as long as they stay isometric and require aiming with your skills no auto aim bull like WoW, this is Diablo people not WoW.
Well obviously your gonna live with the graphics cause I'm guessing you couldn't do it better yourself, so don't complain. They already mentioned the game was isometric therefor your comment is a little redundant and we know this isn't WoW, that's why the name of the website is DiabloFans.com, but thanks for the info in case some didn't know.
Inventory system was a major part of Diablo and look what they do...they remove it with WoW. Now whoever said the inventory system was flaw because it was frustrating to get an item while monsters attacked you...quit playing the game you obviously weren't good.
Blizzard are just trying to improve on something that wasn't perfect, they did mention that they are not finished designing the inventory system and that it's prone to alot of changes. They also mentioned that they know alot of people liked the big items so thats why they are finding a way to make a hybrid system to implement both new and old systems together. And no, the developers aren't changing it simply cuz they couldn't pick up items while beating on a monster simultaneously. But that's what simpletons like you would tend to believe.
Auto stats...heres a good one. Lets stop cookie cutter models by limiting your custimization. Lets add these rune words to skills so that everyone can use the same skill in the end and be cookie cuttered. If anyone tries to disagree with me on this, please I beg of you explain yourself and tell me how 7 runes will make the customization any better then stat points, you know damn well in the end everyone will have same skills for that class.
First off : cookie cutter builds were and always will be existant. Even if Blizzard successfully made possible tens of thousands of different equally successful builds there owuld be people who would follow others because they are too unoriginal to do their own. This isn't a problem with the game but with people. Diablo 2 LoD 1.10 had more than enough builds to go around and I'm sure there are alot of them which even you or me haven't even tried to do. If you end up with the same build as everyone else, why don't you point the finger at yourself, no one forced you to copy others, specially not Blizzard.
Please I beg you to read all the previous debates on skill points VS stat points on other threads and look how your theory is so totally obsolete. People haven't even played the game yet and are calculating hundreds of different builds and skill possibilities. Instead of trying to defend a stats system that was even more cookie cuttered than skills, why don't you get educated by the folks around here who took the time to number it out for you in various threads.
And respeccing..another great thing about Diablo that set the good players from the bad.
No, respec doesn't set the good player from the bad. It sets the real players from the sheep. Sheep (maybe like you) who don't fear to get the wrong build since they follow cookie cutters! Real Players who play casually or hardcore both have the need for respec. The idea is to implement this system right so it's not abused. Most people don't have as much time as you to remake and remake builds over and over again or don't have the lameness to copy other's build. Respec is an option and like everything else in life is not forced upon you. If you are too good for respec then don't use it and stop bitching and crying like a dame. Be mature and mind your own, enjoy the game and let others enjoy it also.
and from the looks of it the development team couldn't cut it
That's great, I'm sure that Blizz are relieved to hear you say that you will be taking over development since you can cut it and they can't.
catered more and more to the crying of kids who couldn't cut it, no more loot, no more hostile tps, no more fast wps when hostile,
and that's about when your winning streak of newb killing ended right? couldn't abuse no more, you had to duel legitimately, man now it's not the kids crying its you! Oh No! Legit PvP what am I gonna do! (Beofre you tell me you never TP pked anyone and u owned everyone legit 1 on 1. If you really did then why are you complaining about the balancing of PvP?! )
.10 they pretty much made you connect the dots to your skills with the synergies pretty much telling you which builds were the best
Sure, 1.10 gave you a plethora of new builds and synergies helped making previously useless low level skills usefull again! Man , how could Blizz be so stupid, maybe they should of phoned you to find a solution to all their problems.
Now d3 comes out and what does it do...removes hostility thus far
No, you can still PvP, you can still hostile, but this time you just can't tpPK them anymore. Why because (and I know you never heard of this before) your victim actually has to hostile with you also!AMAZING! what a novel concept.
removes stat points so its IMPOSSIBLE to make a mistake and learn or to differentiate your character from other
Yeah! like 400 vitality sorcs were really different from 400 Vit. necros or barbs. And hell, you can still make mistakes. If your so frustrated by your perfectness why don't you try accidentally pressing delete char on your level 80 WD and then you can have the pleasure of making that mistake and starting all over. Man I bet youll be laughing in glee !
Now I know alot of you are gonna be angry with me for stating the fact
I haven't found a fact yet.....But when I do I might get angry!
and you can't pussify PvP children.
Spoken like a true TPPK Hydra sorc/ lightinig trap sitting in town assassin. Oh Wait! I knew I had seen you before! You seemed so familiar to me. Man you haven't changed a bit!
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Automatic distribution of attribute points ? Really?
No good, all it means is less customizable chars and unified, predictable builds.
Easy to balance, BORING to play. LAME!
Comon blizz, dont take the easy way out.
Force players to spend skillpoints ?
Hello "Hellgate London" reads "Hello fucking FAIL".
That was the most boring experience i ever had.
PLZ RECONSIDER YOUR DESIGN DECISIONS.
First: They removed the status point distribution but putted a huge list of passive skills to put point. And this list gives alot of more customisation then follow a FAQ.
Second: The most boring experience i ever had was 've to level up my soc from 1 to 30 with having to put more then one point in a skill, because i had to save point to the highest tier spells. For the BNET"s players that was easy because you do those stupid tristam runs were you do nothing just look your XP bar increasing.
The second more boring experience was when the synergie system comes out and i could now use my skills in lower levels, but when i got my soc to 90+ all i've to do was spam FO and FB around because all my other skills were now shitty.
I don't know, it sounds like the people upset are the people who enjoyed exploiting flaws in the attribute and skill system, although that can get me some heat I'm sure for saying exploit as I'm sure many might think Blizz was hoping you'd ignore the existence of one stat or another or of 90% of the skills in the tree.
Also, you don't have to get skills you don't want. The point of the passive skills in trees is to allow you some utility in point spending in other trees you aren't as focused in, so if you want teleport, using D2 as an example, you don't have to get telekinesis, you can get a passive ability that will help your arcane tree or elemental tree or what have you without dumping a point or more in an active ability you don't intend to use.
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everyone is always doing so much whining about D3... what does D3 owe to any of us?.. nothing, lets except the game how they want to make it, they didn't let us down in 1 or 2.. trust what they come up with i say..
I agree, it's Blizzard's game, not yours.
They aren't doing it to "keep the core of Diablo", they are doing it for the money.
As long as it sells, they won't care about the (so called) hardcore gamers.
Besides, the game is not out yet; and I'm sure that when it is, you'll all buy it (or download it), will play it like mad and will love it, so stop whining and just wait 'till it's out
Ok lets go through the long list of shit you all spewed out in regards to my post.
1) Rushes , dupes, and baal runs...ok this is fun! Rushing, never rushed till about 1.08 I started first day d2 came out so thats a pretty damn good run of no rushing there buddy. Dupes...never cared for them and never will, I used dupes in 1.10 only and it wasn't anything greater then some soul spurs, no pussy ass 70/15's like im sure 90% of you newbs use. Baal runs hmm... yea I baaled once again in 1.10...blood runs, chaos runs, actually running other places beyond baal for the majority of the time playing so thus your whole theory just went to shit.
2) Yea 280 different spells sounds awesome no? Not really...279 shitty skills means nothing to me. In the end and you know it it will all fall down to a few select few just like it always has, Diablo 1 had fireball, nova, and Armageddon. D2 has orb, blizzard, fireball, ww, ect. D3 will have the same selection so nice try once again theory goes to shit.
3) Im not sure why I waste my time on this site as most of your posts and reasons make me sick to my stomach to see such people call themselves "hardcore fans" but they are cry about the very essence that made Diablo Diablo.
4) Cookie cutter builds made PvM easier yea...but were they required to do PvM? Nope..if you played before 1.10 kiddy you would notice alot of builds weren't cookie cuttered. You could be multi elemental and multi tree'd and still be comparable to someone who was strictly one tree. Synergies fucked Diablo hardcorely and you obviously dont see that. I tried to avoid cookie cutter as much as I could but the game is just to easy considering your guys are epicly strong its kinda hard for PvM to be nothing more then a joke.
5) Never said the Devs couldn't pick up items, I was stating that in regards to someone else to said they had problems grabbing items when monsters beat on them. So thanks...once agian theory to shit.
6) I am agreed on with that in the end even with all of these changes Blizzard will fail in stopping cookie cutter and their skill system will fall to shit just like all the other Diablos. The thing they need to do to prevent cookie cutter or atleast deter is to make skills that arnt useless, and instead of having 279/280 skills be shit, how about 0/280 skills be shit?
7) Once again you obviously never played Diablo in early 1.01 days where you had builds that were not all vita. You clearly are a 1.10 spawn. I have had hundreds of builds that arn't all vita and you obviously never made a melee character that required maybe a little more str or dex then stock.
8) The way the development team is going, yea I could cut it better then they could. Their reasons for these changes and the way they talk about Diablo experiences...they blow hardcore, like seriously they are huge newbs to Diablo and need to quit asap.
9) Haha dude trust me even with all the pussified things Blizzard did to try and stop me from killing kids like you it didn't stop me. Just takes me a few more seconds to get to you to kill you and your whole group of friends 7v1 buddy. If blizzard keeps the aiming of skills in Diablo these changes mean nothing because from what ive seen in playing Diablo 2 since 1.01 you kids can't aim and that means you can't duel.
10) The syneriges helped make lower level skills usefull? Hardly, it screwed over Hydras, and some other higher level skills to make up for low level skills they felt should be more dominant. So in regards to stopping high level skills from being so good they screwed them over and made the lower level skills the ones to get in the end it leads to nothing being fixed just avoiding the problem.
11) Never tppk'd never used any of those hacks. Biggest hack I used was maphack and thats it, never scroll'd never AA, never chicken, never did any of that or used hacked items, beyond the few select few dupes so thanks for trying buddy.
12) All vita characters werent different from other classes, but guess what? If they made stat points usefull you wouldn't go all vita!!!!!!!! They are denying the problems and avoiding them by taking the whole system out. They blow as developers and thats all I gotta say.
When you see a statement like "they remove it with WoW", you know you can stop reading right there.
Did someone remove your brain with WoW by any chance? You seem to see WoW everywhere around you. It must be haunting you? Poor thing... I bet you see WoW even when you go to pee in the middle of the night. It's right there - lurking in your toilet...
4) Cookie cutter builds made PvM easier yea...but were they required to do PvM? Nope..if you played before 1.10 kiddy you would notice alot of builds weren't cookie cuttered. You could be multi elemental and multi tree'd and still be comparable to someone who was strictly one tree. Synergies fucked Diablo hardcorely and you obviously dont see that. I tried to avoid cookie cutter as much as I could but the game is just to easy considering your guys are epicly strong its kinda hard for PvM to be nothing more then a joke.
Yup. 1.10 fucked diablo. The funny thing is, most of the people supporting the auto stat system, further cookie-cutterization of diablo loved 1.10. If that isn't proof enough that they're utterly retarded..
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"Because "half-assed" is not a "style"." - DragoonWraith, champion of character customization and legimitate art direction in D3
However did you ever try a non perfected build with no 350+ points in Vitality..Not so simple in Hell.
Sorry for the double post, but this sentence boils down to DURRRRRRR, HAV U EVAR TRIED PLAYING THE GAIME THE WAI RETARDS LIKE ME PLA.
No, I haven't, and I don't intend to. Shitty builds made by shit players should get owned by hell. The solution isn't to automate greatness, but to force those players to adapt or continue sucking (which many butthurt idiots obviously did...).
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hey vladdracul, i cant speak for everyone on this forum mate but your a absolute tool.. and every comment you have made is moronic.
Why you wouldnt just be glad that blizzard has given us games like D1 and D2, and now D3 is beyond me, all the sooking you do is incredible.. leave this talk for when your out with your women friends sipping coffee and b*tching about how bad blizzard are..
I'm not sure who you think you are mate, but i do know blizzard don't owe you squat.
Please show some respect to others in this community, stop annoying everyone with your rubbish man
Now it seems to me that lets look at history: Diablo 1 was EXTREMELY hardcore, no hostility button, just straight slaughter. D2 came out and made the game less extreme and more catering toward people who couldn't cut it and from the looks of it the development team couldn't cut it. Now d2 was still to extreme when it came out so every patch they did they catered more and more to the crying of kids who couldn't cut it, no more loot, no more hostile tps, no more fast wps when hostile, hell even wtih .10 they pretty much made you connect the dots to your skills with the synergies pretty much telling you which builds were the best ( Go blizzard for custimization!!!!!! no more cookie cutter even tho they started the cookie cutter !!!! ). Now d3 comes out and what does it do...removes hostility thus far, removes stat points so its IMPOSSIBLE to make a mistake and learn or to differentiate your character from others, the developers make WEAK and I mean WEAK reasons for any of their actions, they "adress" all the problems from d2 but what are those problems? Those problems are nothing more but tears from the kids and developers who couldn't cut it, those were from the people who think PvM in Diablo is hard.
It's all true. Diablo has always focused on competitiveness and that's what has made it so great, because it had BNet...that's why everyone liked Diablo. Free online community, unbalanced and completely unfair combat...thats what we liked. We wanted to pick up some godly weapon and use it to beat the *** out of some poor little noob.
Unfortunately, they dont care. They want to safety proof everything because the new developers are themselves carebears.
Thank you angelmaz you don't seem to be a complete moron and have a good understanding of what Diablo is.
Hrvy86..I am glad Blizzard made Diablo 1 and 2, am I so glad d3 looks like the next beta form for WoW2? No.
Now please before you open your mouth again understand that I am that kid who killed you on Diablo 1 and 2, I am that kid who joined your game and wrecked you and ALL of your friends. I am that kid that the developers talk about who wreaked havoc throughout Bnet and obviously scarred ALL of you, and get this if Blizzard allows even the slightest chance that I or any of my friends or hell any PvPer from d2 to even attack any of you, we will. We will ruin your experience again and you will cry again and make the game even more pussified the it is now.
So before you open your mouth again understand that I truely am what Diablo is and should stay, none of you are. You are standing for what it was "meant" to be not what it is.
Thank you angelmaz you don't seem to be a complete moron and have a good understanding of what Diablo is.
dude, this is a game?.. its not reality. I understand and i appreciate your devotion to diablo man but at the end of the day, its a GAME.. everyone has an understanding of what it is, every single person who played the game understands it and played it differently, just because you were a pker.. doesnt mean anything man, i was one to at the end of my 6 years of playing the game but i dont carry on like thats the only way it can be played, other people didnt like pking, so what...?
Hrvy86..I am glad Blizzard made Diablo 1 and 2, am I so glad d3 looks like the next beta form for WoW2? No.
Thats 100% fine man, dont play it then ? I'm sure 90% of the people that played the game would much prefer if you didnt..
Now please before you open your mouth again understand that I am that kid who killed you on Diablo 1 and 2, I am that kid who joined your game and wrecked you and ALL of your friends. I am that kid that the developers talk about who wreaked havoc throughout Bnet and obviously scarred ALL of you
Here you go again mate, talking like you are some kind of superior player to anyone else.. its a game, im sure there was not 1 person that was "scared" of you, what kind of person would actually be "scared" in a game. Maybe you were superior to me? i dont know and nor do i care, only someone with very minimal inteligence would actually say such things, "deveopers talk about" mate your very lost on what is reality im sorry to say.
I was 2rd to make it to 99 HC on a ladder reset, but i would have been scared of you? nope sorry son.
We will ruin your experience again and you will cry again and make the game even more pussified the it is now.
this is fine also, and once again, believing in your mind that you made people cry? come on man, lets be real here.
So before you open your mouth again understand that I truly am what Diablo is and should stay, none of you are. You are standing for what it was "meant" to be not what it is.
this is honestly the funniest peice of writing i have seen in some time "I truely am what Diablo is and should stay, none of you are"..
You done it again man, diablo is what you are.. its not what blizzard have made it?.. please
Mate you are 1 fan not the volume, not blizzard, not the "scary" "godlike" gamer you make yourself out to be, and you are definately not what diablo is.. The blizzard team working on diablo are what diablo is, sorry to be the guy that informs you of a harsh reality of this kind, but man, it is real.
I love Dopple, he's so easy to pick on. All you gotta do is go to any thread and find the woman-like bitching post and that should be him. Allright, this thread has gotten really out of hand. It's like becoming home to the people that plague not just Diablo but the entire gaming community. This will be my last post in this retarded thread since there is no hope for ladyboys like you who care nothing but bitching and making everyone's lives miserable. I think you guys should all group up and go play D1 together where you can PK each other endlessly as you so like it. Lets finish with a bang!
You're supposed to use "quote", not "code". Posted by Doppelganger
He's going to post how he likes, there you go again with your "suppose to do it MY way" mindset. You must be that kid that got spoiled by his parents when he was young. How have you become such a woman, grow some balls boy.
aka, dumbed down casual gaming, cause hey, NEWSFLASH! it sells, its cheap, it doesn't take lots of effort, its conservative and thus "safe", oh and its a blast to hype, cause hell, if not spending the money (remember?) on actually taking a "risk" and dare i say "make an actually compelling, deep, complex, unique game", then you might aswell hype it from here to kingdom come and get those perfect 10's from the shithole that they call "game reviews" these days. The best part of it though? It means dumb people will actually fall for the tripe, unfortunately resulting in moar MONEY.
Your absolutely right! Thats why Blizz have been making a simple and easy to make game for over 7 years. Once again your right, they are making a simple game thats why they are implementing hundreds of systems to balance a game because a balanced game is retarded right? they should listen to you and not create any balance system and make it compelling and deep like D1 so little freaks like you can go around and pk everyone that's lower level than you. Man your understanding of DEEP COMPLEX is so profound it amazes me..Really. And I'm sure they care about independant game reviews, I mean like they really need those to hype their game right! Who the hell heard of Blizzard or Diablo before?!
Your post is like the epithome of contradictory dumbfuckery
You should of wrote, "My post is the epithome of contradictory dumbfuckery so please come and learn from me!"
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The only people I see who care about this next installment are the very people who think PvM is hard in Diablo. Which happens to be the very people I probably killed thousands of times and made them cry because well they just arn't very good at the game obviously if they feel PvM is hard in Diablo.
I can live with the graphics, as long as they stay isometric and require aiming with your skills no auto aim bull like WoW, this is Diablo people not WoW.
Inventory system was a major part of Diablo and look what they do...they remove it with WoW. Now whoever said the inventory system was flaw because it was frustrating to get an item while monsters attacked you...quit playing the game you obviously weren't good.
Auto stats...heres a good one. Lets stop cookie cutter models by limiting your custimization. Lets add these rune words to skills so that everyone can use the same skill in the end and be cookie cuttered. If anyone tries to disagree with me on this, please I beg of you explain yourself and tell me how 7 runes will make the customization any better then stat points, you know damn well in the end everyone will have same skills for that class.
And respeccing..another great thing about Diablo that set the good players from the bad.
Now it seems to me that lets look at history: Diablo 1 was EXTREMELY hardcore, no hostility button, just straight slaughter. D2 came out and made the game less extreme and more catering toward people who couldn't cut it and from the looks of it the development team couldn't cut it. Now d2 was still to extreme when it came out so every patch they did they catered more and more to the crying of kids who couldn't cut it, no more loot, no more hostile tps, no more fast wps when hostile, hell even wtih .10 they pretty much made you connect the dots to your skills with the synergies pretty much telling you which builds were the best ( Go blizzard for custimization!!!!!! no more cookie cutter even tho they started the cookie cutter !!!! ). Now d3 comes out and what does it do...removes hostility thus far, removes stat points so its IMPOSSIBLE to make a mistake and learn or to differentiate your character from others, the developers make WEAK and I mean WEAK reasons for any of their actions, they "adress" all the problems from d2 but what are those problems? Those problems are nothing more but tears from the kids and developers who couldn't cut it, those were from the people who think PvM in Diablo is hard.
Now I know alot of you are gonna be angry with me for stating the fact and pretty much saying you suck at the game ( Which you probably do if you disagree with me ), but bottom line is Diablo may of been meant for PvM and co-op, but that doesn't mean anything because Diablo IS not PvM and it and it's hardcore community derive around PvP and you can't pussify PvP children.
I love this quote from a developer who says they are making your guys epicly strong and godlike but they expect PvM to be hard...what a laugh and what a way to kill a franchise.
Take a look at SC2 kiddies thats a real game, thats a real sequal...take note D3 developers, you suck and need to quit ASAP cause all your "changes" are taking out the core of the game and without the core what do you have beside a crappy game with the name Diablo?
That's exactly what happens with me. I'm forcing myself to get shit done with the Barbarian now though.
Rise and rise again, until lambs become lions
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The inventory was a "minor" part of the game that hasn't changed much. You still have a limit of how much you can carry and you can still see your items.
the seven runes will make each class have around 280 different spells.
You mean "separates the build googlers from the build learners"?
You seem like a pking asshole. The major flaw with diablo 2 multiplayer was the sheer amount of assholes. I blame environment of d2 multiplayer for being conducive to assholery. By implementing a pvp arena the assholes will have a place to get together and compare the size of their virtual cocks. Instead of barging in and killing someone who is simply trying to enjoy the pvm aspect with their friends. I DEFY you to find a single "WEAK" reason they have given for changing the Diablo series.
That was probably the most thick headed, one dimensional, shit fest, of a post I have ever seen. (well...)
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
Man Your talking alot of shit for a guy who's not liking the development of D3 but still waisting his time on DiabloFans.com cuz he's so giddy about the next Diablo3 coming out. Ok lets analyse your near retarded post that you just made and try to find something half true or slightly possible.
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Well, though I do believe some monsters are brutal in D2 such as Stygians Dolls, or Unique fast enchanted Blood Lords. I would say that PvM wasn't too challenging if you followed the cookie cutter builds. (Which you definately did since u were apparently bored with Hell PvM.) However did you ever try a non perfected build with no 350+ points in Vitality..Not so simple in Hell. However I'm getting beside the point, the point is I loved dueling, wasn't crappy at it, had lots of success and destroyed PvM with some of my chars as well, however I still DO care about the game so obviously your last statement is either wrong or you simply haven't seen many people at all around here. I doubt you killed them or me a thousand times, and I can guarantee you haven't made anyone out here cry exept if Blizz were to come and read your comment they would probably cry in laughter.
Well obviously your gonna live with the graphics cause I'm guessing you couldn't do it better yourself, so don't complain. They already mentioned the game was isometric therefor your comment is a little redundant and we know this isn't WoW, that's why the name of the website is DiabloFans.com, but thanks for the info in case some didn't know.
Blizzard are just trying to improve on something that wasn't perfect, they did mention that they are not finished designing the inventory system and that it's prone to alot of changes. They also mentioned that they know alot of people liked the big items so thats why they are finding a way to make a hybrid system to implement both new and old systems together. And no, the developers aren't changing it simply cuz they couldn't pick up items while beating on a monster simultaneously. But that's what simpletons like you would tend to believe.
First off : cookie cutter builds were and always will be existant. Even if Blizzard successfully made possible tens of thousands of different equally successful builds there owuld be people who would follow others because they are too unoriginal to do their own. This isn't a problem with the game but with people. Diablo 2 LoD 1.10 had more than enough builds to go around and I'm sure there are alot of them which even you or me haven't even tried to do. If you end up with the same build as everyone else, why don't you point the finger at yourself, no one forced you to copy others, specially not Blizzard.
Please I beg you to read all the previous debates on skill points VS stat points on other threads and look how your theory is so totally obsolete. People haven't even played the game yet and are calculating hundreds of different builds and skill possibilities. Instead of trying to defend a stats system that was even more cookie cuttered than skills, why don't you get educated by the folks around here who took the time to number it out for you in various threads.
No, respec doesn't set the good player from the bad. It sets the real players from the sheep. Sheep (maybe like you) who don't fear to get the wrong build since they follow cookie cutters! Real Players who play casually or hardcore both have the need for respec. The idea is to implement this system right so it's not abused. Most people don't have as much time as you to remake and remake builds over and over again or don't have the lameness to copy other's build. Respec is an option and like everything else in life is not forced upon you. If you are too good for respec then don't use it and stop bitching and crying like a dame. Be mature and mind your own, enjoy the game and let others enjoy it also.
That's great, I'm sure that Blizz are relieved to hear you say that you will be taking over development since you can cut it and they can't.
and that's about when your winning streak of newb killing ended right? couldn't abuse no more, you had to duel legitimately, man now it's not the kids crying its you! Oh No! Legit PvP what am I gonna do! (Beofre you tell me you never TP pked anyone and u owned everyone legit 1 on 1. If you really did then why are you complaining about the balancing of PvP?! )
Sure, 1.10 gave you a plethora of new builds and synergies helped making previously useless low level skills usefull again! Man , how could Blizz be so stupid, maybe they should of phoned you to find a solution to all their problems.
Now d3 comes out and what does it do...removes hostility thus far
No, you can still PvP, you can still hostile, but this time you just can't tpPK them anymore. Why because (and I know you never heard of this before) your victim actually has to hostile with you also!AMAZING! what a novel concept.
Yeah! like 400 vitality sorcs were really different from 400 Vit. necros or barbs. And hell, you can still make mistakes. If your so frustrated by your perfectness why don't you try accidentally pressing delete char on your level 80 WD and then you can have the pleasure of making that mistake and starting all over. Man I bet youll be laughing in glee !
I haven't found a fact yet.....But when I do I might get angry!
and you can't pussify PvP children.
Spoken like a true TPPK Hydra sorc/ lightinig trap sitting in town assassin. Oh Wait! I knew I had seen you before! You seemed so familiar to me. Man you haven't changed a bit!
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Originally Posted by mattheo_majik
I LOVE being a SEX TON!!!
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
First: They removed the status point distribution but putted a huge list of passive skills to put point. And this list gives alot of more customisation then follow a FAQ.
Second: The most boring experience i ever had was 've to level up my soc from 1 to 30 with having to put more then one point in a skill, because i had to save point to the highest tier spells. For the BNET"s players that was easy because you do those stupid tristam runs were you do nothing just look your XP bar increasing.
The second more boring experience was when the synergie system comes out and i could now use my skills in lower levels, but when i got my soc to 90+ all i've to do was spam FO and FB around because all my other skills were now shitty.
Also, you don't have to get skills you don't want. The point of the passive skills in trees is to allow you some utility in point spending in other trees you aren't as focused in, so if you want teleport, using D2 as an example, you don't have to get telekinesis, you can get a passive ability that will help your arcane tree or elemental tree or what have you without dumping a point or more in an active ability you don't intend to use.
I agree, it's Blizzard's game, not yours.
They aren't doing it to "keep the core of Diablo", they are doing it for the money.
As long as it sells, they won't care about the (so called) hardcore gamers.
Besides, the game is not out yet; and I'm sure that when it is, you'll all buy it (or download it), will play it like mad and will love it, so stop whining and just wait 'till it's out
1) Rushes , dupes, and baal runs...ok this is fun! Rushing, never rushed till about 1.08 I started first day d2 came out so thats a pretty damn good run of no rushing there buddy. Dupes...never cared for them and never will, I used dupes in 1.10 only and it wasn't anything greater then some soul spurs, no pussy ass 70/15's like im sure 90% of you newbs use. Baal runs hmm... yea I baaled once again in 1.10...blood runs, chaos runs, actually running other places beyond baal for the majority of the time playing so thus your whole theory just went to shit.
2) Yea 280 different spells sounds awesome no? Not really...279 shitty skills means nothing to me. In the end and you know it it will all fall down to a few select few just like it always has, Diablo 1 had fireball, nova, and Armageddon. D2 has orb, blizzard, fireball, ww, ect. D3 will have the same selection so nice try once again theory goes to shit.
3) Im not sure why I waste my time on this site as most of your posts and reasons make me sick to my stomach to see such people call themselves "hardcore fans" but they are cry about the very essence that made Diablo Diablo.
4) Cookie cutter builds made PvM easier yea...but were they required to do PvM? Nope..if you played before 1.10 kiddy you would notice alot of builds weren't cookie cuttered. You could be multi elemental and multi tree'd and still be comparable to someone who was strictly one tree. Synergies fucked Diablo hardcorely and you obviously dont see that. I tried to avoid cookie cutter as much as I could but the game is just to easy considering your guys are epicly strong its kinda hard for PvM to be nothing more then a joke.
5) Never said the Devs couldn't pick up items, I was stating that in regards to someone else to said they had problems grabbing items when monsters beat on them. So thanks...once agian theory to shit.
6) I am agreed on with that in the end even with all of these changes Blizzard will fail in stopping cookie cutter and their skill system will fall to shit just like all the other Diablos. The thing they need to do to prevent cookie cutter or atleast deter is to make skills that arnt useless, and instead of having 279/280 skills be shit, how about 0/280 skills be shit?
7) Once again you obviously never played Diablo in early 1.01 days where you had builds that were not all vita. You clearly are a 1.10 spawn. I have had hundreds of builds that arn't all vita and you obviously never made a melee character that required maybe a little more str or dex then stock.
8) The way the development team is going, yea I could cut it better then they could. Their reasons for these changes and the way they talk about Diablo experiences...they blow hardcore, like seriously they are huge newbs to Diablo and need to quit asap.
9) Haha dude trust me even with all the pussified things Blizzard did to try and stop me from killing kids like you it didn't stop me. Just takes me a few more seconds to get to you to kill you and your whole group of friends 7v1 buddy. If blizzard keeps the aiming of skills in Diablo these changes mean nothing because from what ive seen in playing Diablo 2 since 1.01 you kids can't aim and that means you can't duel.
10) The syneriges helped make lower level skills usefull? Hardly, it screwed over Hydras, and some other higher level skills to make up for low level skills they felt should be more dominant. So in regards to stopping high level skills from being so good they screwed them over and made the lower level skills the ones to get in the end it leads to nothing being fixed just avoiding the problem.
11) Never tppk'd never used any of those hacks. Biggest hack I used was maphack and thats it, never scroll'd never AA, never chicken, never did any of that or used hacked items, beyond the few select few dupes so thanks for trying buddy.
12) All vita characters werent different from other classes, but guess what? If they made stat points usefull you wouldn't go all vita!!!!!!!! They are denying the problems and avoiding them by taking the whole system out. They blow as developers and thats all I gotta say.
Did someone remove your brain with WoW by any chance? You seem to see WoW everywhere around you. It must be haunting you? Poor thing... I bet you see WoW even when you go to pee in the middle of the night. It's right there - lurking in your toilet...
Yup. 1.10 fucked diablo. The funny thing is, most of the people supporting the auto stat system, further cookie-cutterization of diablo loved 1.10. If that isn't proof enough that they're utterly retarded..
"Because "half-assed" is not a "style"." - DragoonWraith, champion of character customization and legimitate art direction in D3
Sorry for the double post, but this sentence boils down to DURRRRRRR, HAV U EVAR TRIED PLAYING THE GAIME THE WAI RETARDS LIKE ME PLA.
No, I haven't, and I don't intend to. Shitty builds made by shit players should get owned by hell. The solution isn't to automate greatness, but to force those players to adapt or continue sucking (which many butthurt idiots obviously did...).
"Because "half-assed" is not a "style"." - DragoonWraith, champion of character customization and legimitate art direction in D3
Why you wouldnt just be glad that blizzard has given us games like D1 and D2, and now D3 is beyond me, all the sooking you do is incredible.. leave this talk for when your out with your women friends sipping coffee and b*tching about how bad blizzard are..
I'm not sure who you think you are mate, but i do know blizzard don't owe you squat.
Please show some respect to others in this community, stop annoying everyone with your rubbish man
It's all true. Diablo has always focused on competitiveness and that's what has made it so great, because it had BNet...that's why everyone liked Diablo. Free online community, unbalanced and completely unfair combat...thats what we liked. We wanted to pick up some godly weapon and use it to beat the *** out of some poor little noob.
Unfortunately, they dont care. They want to safety proof everything because the new developers are themselves carebears.
Hrvy86..I am glad Blizzard made Diablo 1 and 2, am I so glad d3 looks like the next beta form for WoW2? No.
Now please before you open your mouth again understand that I am that kid who killed you on Diablo 1 and 2, I am that kid who joined your game and wrecked you and ALL of your friends. I am that kid that the developers talk about who wreaked havoc throughout Bnet and obviously scarred ALL of you, and get this if Blizzard allows even the slightest chance that I or any of my friends or hell any PvPer from d2 to even attack any of you, we will. We will ruin your experience again and you will cry again and make the game even more pussified the it is now.
So before you open your mouth again understand that I truely am what Diablo is and should stay, none of you are. You are standing for what it was "meant" to be not what it is.
dude, this is a game?.. its not reality. I understand and i appreciate your devotion to diablo man but at the end of the day, its a GAME.. everyone has an understanding of what it is, every single person who played the game understands it and played it differently, just because you were a pker.. doesnt mean anything man, i was one to at the end of my 6 years of playing the game but i dont carry on like thats the only way it can be played, other people didnt like pking, so what...?
Thats 100% fine man, dont play it then ? I'm sure 90% of the people that played the game would much prefer if you didnt..
Here you go again mate, talking like you are some kind of superior player to anyone else.. its a game, im sure there was not 1 person that was "scared" of you, what kind of person would actually be "scared" in a game. Maybe you were superior to me? i dont know and nor do i care, only someone with very minimal inteligence would actually say such things, "deveopers talk about" mate your very lost on what is reality im sorry to say.
I was 2rd to make it to 99 HC on a ladder reset, but i would have been scared of you? nope sorry son.
this is fine also, and once again, believing in your mind that you made people cry? come on man, lets be real here.
this is honestly the funniest peice of writing i have seen in some time "I truely am what Diablo is and should stay, none of you are"..
You done it again man, diablo is what you are.. its not what blizzard have made it?.. please
Mate you are 1 fan not the volume, not blizzard, not the "scary" "godlike" gamer you make yourself out to be, and you are definately not what diablo is.. The blizzard team working on diablo are what diablo is, sorry to be the guy that informs you of a harsh reality of this kind, but man, it is real.
I love Dopple, he's so easy to pick on. All you gotta do is go to any thread and find the woman-like bitching post and that should be him. Allright, this thread has gotten really out of hand. It's like becoming home to the people that plague not just Diablo but the entire gaming community. This will be my last post in this retarded thread since there is no hope for ladyboys like you who care nothing but bitching and making everyone's lives miserable. I think you guys should all group up and go play D1 together where you can PK each other endlessly as you so like it. Lets finish with a bang!
He's going to post how he likes, there you go again with your "suppose to do it MY way" mindset. You must be that kid that got spoiled by his parents when he was young. How have you become such a woman, grow some balls boy.
Your absolutely right! Thats why Blizz have been making a simple and easy to make game for over 7 years. Once again your right, they are making a simple game thats why they are implementing hundreds of systems to balance a game because a balanced game is retarded right? they should listen to you and not create any balance system and make it compelling and deep like D1 so little freaks like you can go around and pk everyone that's lower level than you. Man your understanding of DEEP COMPLEX is so profound it amazes me..Really. And I'm sure they care about independant game reviews, I mean like they really need those to hype their game right! Who the hell heard of Blizzard or Diablo before?!
You should of wrote, "My post is the epithome of contradictory dumbfuckery so please come and learn from me!"
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Originally Posted by mattheo_majik
I LOVE being a SEX TON!!!