firstly, you're assuming that the 'fourth dimesion' exists. there is not enough evidence to support that theory. its only hypothetical.
secondly, you said 'know'. we don't know anything about these creatures, fact has nothing to do with them.
thirdly, you're assuming that its possible for creatures to pass in and out of this 'fourth dimension'. what the hell? you're jumping way too far ahead. why don't we also just automatically assume that I will live for a thousand years, hmm? There is no difference between the extent of both our assumptions. thats why your post doesn't make sense.
im not assuming the 4th dimension exists because it does... its beyond that dimension that we arent sure about... and we dont know anything ab out the physical nature of these creatures except for the fact that they have been appearing in photographs since we have been able to take photographs and im goin to assume that these creatures can pass between the third and foruth dimensions until its proven otherwise just like ur not gonna believe that they can pass from dimension to dimension until its proven they can...
If were are to assume that there are angels, then we have to assume we, too, have spirituality. That is the level, then, that a "spirit" would communicate on. But, in another sense, if you assume there are angels, then something must have created them, unless you want to buy in to some kind of spiritual evolution or something, like some new agers do. If we are to assume then, for sake of argument, that angels do exist, and that they also have a creator, we would have to assume that the same being created our spirituality, and, thus, everything that would come along with that, primarily meaning everything, at which point the creator would be called "god". And if this god were to create everything, he or she would have no chains to our rules, and thus be able to change them or go beyond them at anytime he/she so wishes. So, this god could command the angel to appear to deliver some kind of divine message, and then take whatever necessary steps he or she so chooses to keep that creature from being defined quantitatively.
Very good point there.
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explain what doesnt make sense plz... i dont see how it doesnt make sense... i just said its the only creature we know about (or believe in, which i do) that can slip between third and fourth dimension... is that really that hard to comprehend? ill ask my prof how i can explain it better... zzz or u can ask urs
You're talking about some creature I've never heard about that seems to exist purely from light and which slips between the third and fourth dimention.
You keep getting back to this dimension. Can you actually describe it? I'll give you a head start. First comes length, second is width and third is depth. What is the fourth one? Do you perhaps mean time?
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You do realize some ancient civilizations that have claimed to see Aliens.. referred to them as angels.. so I would happen to think that maybe some of those sightings and accounts have been molded into an idea of somewhat.
They could very well be, but there's already a thread active discussing whether aliens exist or not. That question is entirely scientifical, while this one can also incorporate religious arguments.
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i and we dont know anything ab out the physical nature of these creatures except for the fact that they have been appearing in photographs since we have been able to take photographs
There have actually been pictures of these creates then? Can we see it please?
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Aren't there like 22 different dimensions that scientist have theorized?
I don't know. The main theory right now says either 11 or 12, can't remember which, but it just starts to lose meaning at a certain point. We can't even comprehend what they look like, if they even look like. It all gets very abstract.
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heres a picture for you... this shows said rods... dont tell me its a bug because its a base jump and the pics are taken at such a fast shutter speed that there is no time for a blur to happen from an insect... if there was it would show in the jumper too... you can lookk up more pictures if this isnt good enuf for u
Cool but, even if it were truely a creature, wich it almost certainly is not, (not even mentioning that its probably fake) then whats more probable? A newly found species of bug (there are already millions of bug species, and probably millions yet to be found) or anything else?
well you can look up a cnn news clip also about the mysterious rods... that pic is from cnn lolz..
no... lol i was fuckin bored cuz err1 was in school last week and was lookin for fun videos on cnns archive and i saw that video about the rods and i was like sweet...looks cool... not the pic u idiot... the video
im not assuming the 4th dimension exists because it does... its beyond that dimension that we arent sure about... and we dont know anything ab out the physical nature of these creatures except for the fact that they have been appearing in photographs since we have been able to take photographs and im goin to assume that these creatures can pass between the third and foruth dimensions until its proven otherwise just like ur not gonna believe that they can pass from dimension to dimension until its proven they can...
...and that is why it doesn't make sense.
anyway, this whole 'dimension' thing is getting confusing for everyone because there are different definitions and usages of the word 'dimension'.
1. x-axis, y-axis, z-axis, and time.
2. we live in the '3rd dimension'
3. spiritual dimension?
okay, so when you say 'fourth' dimension, it can mean 'time' (based on 1), but based on 2 it means another dimension other than our own. like a whole other universe kind of thing.
obviously time exists, but things can't just move in and out of time. how does that make sense? sure, you could be saying that the rods travel to the past or future, but that still means that they would have to leave a corpse on earth somewhere.
however, if you're talking about number 2, then you aren't talking about time. if time was included in 2, then we wouldn't be "living in the 3rd dimension", we would be living in the fourth dimension, because time is part of our universe too, just like the x y and z axes.
the fourth dimension is theoretical, noone has actually been there. just like noone has been to the second dimension (but, yes, we know that exists, because our dimension wouldn't exist without it). and if you start saying that there are creatures that can move in and out of the 2nd and 3rd dimensions, then I definitely wouldn't believe you. its just not compatible.
oh yeah, and as for the 'spiritual dimension', well, I kind of made that up then, but it makes sense. magistrate was talking about this dimension.
If were are to assume that there are angels, then we have to assume we, too, have spirituality. That is the level, then, that a "spirit" would communicate on.
yes, I should have said 'spacial dimension', but gamma seems to have been talking about spacial dimension too, because time just doesn't make sense in this case.
so guys, say which dimension you're talking about whenever you use the word 'dimension'.
and please, LEAVE OUT SCIENCE UNLESS IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH ANGELS. i'm so sick of talking about it.
also, with that video, well, what is it of exactly? it looks tampered with. and why is the little bug in perfect focus? while the surroundings aren't? what the hell kind of a camera man is that?
anyway, this whole 'dimension' thing is getting confusing for everyone because there are different definitions and usages of the word 'dimension'.
1. x-axis, y-axis, z-axis, and time.
2. we live in the '3rd dimension'
3. spiritual dimension?
okay, so when you say 'fourth' dimension, it can mean 'time' (based on 1), but based on 2 it means another dimension other than our own. like a whole other universe kind of thing.
obviously time exists, but things can't just move in and out of time. how does that make sense? sure, you could be saying that the rods travel to the past or future, but that still means that they would have to leave a corpse on earth somewhere.
however, if you're talking about number 2, then you aren't talking about time. if time was included in 2, then we wouldn't be "living in the 3rd dimension", we would be living in the fourth dimension, because time is part of our universe too, just like the x y and z axes.
the fourth dimension is theoretical, noone has actually been there. just like noone has been to the second dimension (but, yes, we know that exists, because our dimension wouldn't exist without it). and if you start saying that there are creatures that can move in and out of the 2nd and 3rd dimensions, then I definitely wouldn't believe you. its just not compatible.
oh yeah, and as for the 'spiritual dimension', well, I kind of made that up then, but it makes sense. magistrate was talking about this dimension.
yes, I should have said 'spacial dimension', but gamma seems to have been talking about spacial dimension too, because time just doesn't make sense in this case.
so guys, say which dimension you're talking about whenever you use the word 'dimension'.
and please, LEAVE OUT SCIENCE UNLESS IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH ANGELS. i'm so sick of talking about it.
also, with that video, well, what is it of exactly? it looks tampered with. and why is the little bug in perfect focus? while the surroundings aren't? what the hell kind of a camera man is that?
u were too long winded so i didnt bother reading but... we dont live in the third dimension only... we are three dimensional (plural) 1, 2, and 3 )
There have actually been pictures of these creates then? Can we see it please?
I think many UFO sightings are actually creatures like this, they can become visible by absorbing different wavelengths of light. Think of a plant, Its green because photosynthesis is absorbing all wavelengths of light except green. But I still think there are human made UFOs.
I think many UFO sightings are actually creatures like this, they can become visible by absorbing different wavelengths of light. Think of a plant, Its green because photosynthesis is absorbing all wavelengths of light except green. But I still think there are human made UFOs.
photosynthesis doestn absorb wavelenghts of light... the plant does... photosynthesis is just the process that the plant uses to make atp and glucose... C6H12O6
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that angel is awsome hot lol... but angels are dumb just an invent of religons.
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this is not part of my post, this is a signature, it's not a really big signature for now but maybe some time later it will have cool pictures and more information and stuff on it like from games or some other things i don't know
I am confident that I saw an angel or ghost when I was 9 or 10. I am familiar with how powerful dreams can be, but this has only happened to me once. I was awoken by a loud humming sound and it was hovering above my bed. Whatever it was, angel or ghost, it was very vivid and colored green, red, and orange with sagging features all over (sagging like old people). It was only a few feet tall, but very loud. It scared me so hard I couldn't scream at first, but I finally overcame the fear and starting yelling out for my parents while hitting whatever it was (felt like hitting air). Hitting it made it fade away.
Needless to say I slept in my parents room for the next few months LOL. I finally put a lock on my closet and moved my bed right next to the door with the hall light on.
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Because if the invisible guy the president believes in isn't the real invisible guy then the real invisible guy gets mad and no longer powers our economy with his invisible hand. Jesus, have you never even read anything about economics?
Ok. So from these pictures you draw the conclusion that these creatures can travel between dimensions. What do youy have to base that on?
In either case it's not an angel in the very least.
another explaination as to where their dead bodies go? if no then i believe what i believe and u believe what u believe... regardless of what you believe... im right
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that angel is awsome hot lol... but angels are dumb just an invent of religons.
a-fucking-men im sick of religion... sick of angels... sick of the brainwashed spawn of the catholic church and other religions
"Brainwash", my friend, is a flexible word. For instance, anyone who believes anything has gotten those views from someone or something, ideas aren't original anymore. Your school brainwashes you, you parents, your friends, your siblings- "brainwash" is just a vulgar synonym for influence, really.
im not assuming the 4th dimension exists because it does... its beyond that dimension that we arent sure about... and we dont know anything ab out the physical nature of these creatures except for the fact that they have been appearing in photographs since we have been able to take photographs and im goin to assume that these creatures can pass between the third and foruth dimensions until its proven otherwise just like ur not gonna believe that they can pass from dimension to dimension until its proven they can...
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Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
well im out for the day be back to argue some more later tonite
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You're talking about some creature I've never heard about that seems to exist purely from light and which slips between the third and fourth dimention.
You keep getting back to this dimension. Can you actually describe it? I'll give you a head start. First comes length, second is width and third is depth. What is the fourth one? Do you perhaps mean time?
They could very well be, but there's already a thread active discussing whether aliens exist or not. That question is entirely scientifical, while this one can also incorporate religious arguments.
There have actually been pictures of these creates then? Can we see it please?
I don't know. The main theory right now says either 11 or 12, can't remember which, but it just starts to lose meaning at a certain point. We can't even comprehend what they look like, if they even look like. It all gets very abstract.
http://kspark.kaist.ac.kr/Rod/cave%20rod%203.jpg
gamma11 > east
well you can look up a cnn news clip also about the mysterious rods... that pic is from cnn lolz..
gamma11 > east
gamma11 > east
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...and that is why it doesn't make sense.
anyway, this whole 'dimension' thing is getting confusing for everyone because there are different definitions and usages of the word 'dimension'.
1. x-axis, y-axis, z-axis, and time.
2. we live in the '3rd dimension'
3. spiritual dimension?
okay, so when you say 'fourth' dimension, it can mean 'time' (based on 1), but based on 2 it means another dimension other than our own. like a whole other universe kind of thing.
obviously time exists, but things can't just move in and out of time. how does that make sense? sure, you could be saying that the rods travel to the past or future, but that still means that they would have to leave a corpse on earth somewhere.
however, if you're talking about number 2, then you aren't talking about time. if time was included in 2, then we wouldn't be "living in the 3rd dimension", we would be living in the fourth dimension, because time is part of our universe too, just like the x y and z axes.
the fourth dimension is theoretical, noone has actually been there. just like noone has been to the second dimension (but, yes, we know that exists, because our dimension wouldn't exist without it). and if you start saying that there are creatures that can move in and out of the 2nd and 3rd dimensions, then I definitely wouldn't believe you. its just not compatible.
oh yeah, and as for the 'spiritual dimension', well, I kind of made that up then, but it makes sense. magistrate was talking about this dimension.
yes, I should have said 'spacial dimension', but gamma seems to have been talking about spacial dimension too, because time just doesn't make sense in this case.
so guys, say which dimension you're talking about whenever you use the word 'dimension'.
and please, LEAVE OUT SCIENCE UNLESS IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH ANGELS. i'm so sick of talking about it.
also, with that video, well, what is it of exactly? it looks tampered with. and why is the little bug in perfect focus? while the surroundings aren't? what the hell kind of a camera man is that?
u were too long winded so i didnt bother reading but... we dont live in the third dimension only... we are three dimensional (plural) 1, 2, and 3 )
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it gets confusing when people don't explain what they mean exactly, because there are so many variations.
^^^ basically a summary of that massive post lol
edit; even I couldn't be bothered reading my post again. farr too long. but who knows,maybe someone will.
LOL NICE glad we could clear that up xD
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Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
photosynthesis doestn absorb wavelenghts of light... the plant does... photosynthesis is just the process that the plant uses to make atp and glucose... C6H12O6
gamma11 > east
In either case it's not an angel in the very least.
Needless to say I slept in my parents room for the next few months LOL. I finally put a lock on my closet and moved my bed right next to the door with the hall light on.
another explaination as to where their dead bodies go? if no then i believe what i believe and u believe what u believe... regardless of what you believe... im right
a-fucking-men im sick of religion... sick of angels... sick of the brainwashed spawn of the catholic church and other religions
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