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But since DIII isn't featuring it I guess I'm wasting my time. My position is still the same. No LAN No buy.
My kids aren't playing ANY multiplayer game that I don't control. That means Battle net or any other sort of net. Open, closed or any variant thereof. Think there's probably a lot of parents and guardians that see it my way.
Blizzard have decided to ignore the LAN community and the fact that there's ALWAYS an element of danger when kids go on-line in games. Parents don't have the time to constantly supervise the online situation and there are a heap of creeps out there. That's OK, Blizzard's product - Blizzard's decision.
My decision's made.
I'll drop in again in a couple of months but it looks like the kids will be getting a copy of 'Sacred 2" each.
While I grew up taking the net face on with parents that weren't as concerned about the consequences (or, most likely unaware) as you are, I completely understand your dilemma. Some could argue you can never completely protect your children from the dangers of real life, so the best solution is to inform them and teach them how to take action if such problems arise, but then there are the creeps that expose the children to inappropriate content (foul language to say the least).
I never plan to use LAN myself nor have I ever but again Blizzard should have taken such customers as yourself into more consideration. Shame on them...
The 15+ rating is mainly because of the animated violence and blood. This is incomparable to the nature of the other players on Bnet. One is consistent, the other is variable and potentially much more dangerous.
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The GAME is pretty harmless. I don't think that Diablo is going to put the make on anybody's daughter.
The creeps are the problem - and there's no way Blizzard is going to be able to filter them out. Whatever they may claim it's always better to be safe. Blizzard doesn't have the responsibility for my kids. I do.
I don't have to justify anything. My kids - my decision.
last, do you enjoy the multiplayer aspect of diablo? I'm sure Totsakanth's kids do too. Since blizzard has decided to strip them of this luxury by removing LAN then I totally agree with his movement to get another game.
Oh and I don't know about you, but whenever I'm playing with people I know from real life, it just adds to the enjoyment. I know I'd definitely choose multiplayer with my siblings over singleplayer any day.
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Thanks for the support mate.
The kids were raised on D2 Lan. Their friends still come over here for LAN parties (Yes, we own enough copies of D2 for that). The parent's are happy because they know where their kids are and who their kids are talking to so us oldies usually sit around over a couple of drinks and chat. Good for them and good for us.
You're absolutely right about playing with people you know well. Us oldies even manage to get in a game once in a while when the kids have a movie or two to watch.
That sounds awesome! Since you have considered to come back for D3 after plenty of D2, obviously the game was satisfying. It would be a shame if they don't allow for LAN. Driving away a target audience after having that aspect available on the previous game...
I just see it as a real kick in the pants to hook you onto Diablo, and then tease you like this when you ask for more.
the game is probably 15+ so you still planning to keep that strict video game multiplayer policy for how much longer than 15+? If they are not 15 just dump your excuse not to buy it because your kids shouldn't be playing it in the first place.
Also you can easily control battle.net.. if your kids and your kids friend want to play together just see that they join the same private chat room and private game. Just like wow, maybe diablo3 will have some kind of parental control options for accounts.
I've been playing d2 since I was 16 or 17 in battle.net and after diablo i've played numerous other multiplayers. Only effect that the online community has had for me is that I can easily deal with all the nonsense you see online because of my earlier good and bad experiences.
I've never thought of Battle.net as a breeding ground for pedophiles and creeps. The worst you get on Battle.net is an idiot who calls you a retarded noob so and so, and other trivial text insults.
But aside from that, this is just another perfect example of why Blizzard have absolutely nothing to lose from adding LAN and lots to gain, as in, more sales.
Whats the downside of adding LAN? I can't think of one :confused:
I was raised on the diablo series as well, multiplayer though, not LAN.
There are easy ways to make sure you aren't exposed to creeps, just make a password protected game.
About the LAN, it seems most people here are pretty pissed off that we aren't getting it with D3. No doubt somebody will make a LAN mod for the game though, keep your eyes open for one once the game is released, somebody is bound to make one.
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I don't know about programming, but it's logical for me to think that if the multiplayer aspect is already implemented, how much more code could there really be for making LAN happen? It's pretty much the same as any multiplayer game on Bnet.
And then there is no need for an ultra-high speed internet connection and also living in the same location as the Bnet servers (I love the fact that I lose crucial milliseconds of ping just because I'm an aussie tapping into an american server). With LAN the ping is virtually unnoticeable, so of course it's obvious which you would choose from when given the option of Bnet and LAN.
In the rare chance you visit this thread again OP and actually care about how this may affect your kids. I'd like you to know that I don't speak to my mother anymore (I'm living on my own now and much older) because all of our fights originated when she told me I couldn't play a video game... yup
I was thinking about this. I grew up without internet because in our country we couldn't afford it. I was admitted to the internet at age 15, and from that point it was OK. But at age 5 or whatever age kids get to play games properly, it may just be too young without proper shielding.
I don't care how Diablo is rated. Teen, Mature, it's still nothing compared to the internet. And by that logic, every multiplayer game would be rated Teen, if not M. The actual game is not going to scare anyone much besides a few instances like the Butcher (and there's nothing bad about that). Please don't support people like Jack Thomson about the whole "video games cause violence". I'm sure most forum members don't believe that.
I don't understand why Blizzard removed LAN. Seems like a paranoid anti-piracy measure or something. I hope a mod will add this, or Blizzard changes its opinion.
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I was raised on the diablo series as well, multiplayer though, not LAN.
There are easy ways to make sure you aren't exposed to creeps, just make a password protected game.
And how do you force the kid to stay in a password protected game? That calls for a lot of management for the kid. He'll end up meeting battle.net dwellers regardless, and that's the whole point.
There's nothing wrong with playing on Battle.net, I have played D2 Battle.net since I was 12. All that I suggest is educate the children to the pros and cons about playing over the net. Scare them a little if needed as everybody deserves a good scare every now and then.
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But since DIII isn't featuring it I guess I'm wasting my time. My position is still the same. No LAN No buy.
My kids aren't playing ANY multiplayer game that I don't control. That means Battle net or any other sort of net. Open, closed or any variant thereof. Think there's probably a lot of parents and guardians that see it my way.
Blizzard have decided to ignore the LAN community and the fact that there's ALWAYS an element of danger when kids go on-line in games. Parents don't have the time to constantly supervise the online situation and there are a heap of creeps out there. That's OK, Blizzard's product - Blizzard's decision.
My decision's made.
I'll drop in again in a couple of months but it looks like the kids will be getting a copy of 'Sacred 2" each.
Wait to see what Blizzard does with Bnet. I highly doubt it will be like D2 where you immediately drop into a chatroom full of tards before you can make a game. Remember they have completely remade Bnet from the ground up and it is going to support all of their games, including WoW. Remember they are bringing achievements to all of their games now, Diablo not excluded.
So lets sit back and look at this. A centralized platform for launching all of their products, which now include achievements. Xbox 360 Dashboard anyone?
I expect to see a similar mechanism. It's pretty likely that each Bnet account will open to a dashboard-like interface, and from there you can choose where you want to go, what game you want to launch.
If this is the case, your kids may be able to bypass contact with interneties entirely, and just launch their game, set a password, and their friends just join the game in the same way.
This is speculation until Starcraft 2 Beta launches where they're unveiling the new Bnet for the first time, but my money is on: Xbox 360 Dashboard + Steam = new Bnet.
It is funny how your kids are okay playing only with each other via LAN, but are not okay playing in a private, locked game on B.Net.
If they are old enough to play D3 and are not capable of respecting your decisions with regards to how they are allowed to play the game, then there is something seriously wrong with your parenting, and is quite too late to do anything about that (16+?).
It is funny how your kids are okay playing only with each other via LAN, but are not okay playing in a private, locked game on B.Net.
If they are old enough to play D3 and are not capable of respecting your decisions with regards to how they are allowed to play the game, then there is something seriously wrong with your parenting, and is quite too late to do anything about that (16+?).
Seriously, I hate to say it, but just shut the fuck up. You are in absolutely no position at all to judge that in any way. Attacking someone like this about their ways of "parenting" is the absolute most pathetic thing I have seen around.
But since DIII isn't featuring it I guess I'm wasting my time. My position is still the same. No LAN No buy.
My kids aren't playing ANY multiplayer game that I don't control. That means Battle net or any other sort of net. Open, closed or any variant thereof. Think there's probably a lot of parents and guardians that see it my way.
Blizzard have decided to ignore the LAN community and the fact that there's ALWAYS an element of danger when kids go on-line in games. Parents don't have the time to constantly supervise the online situation and there are a heap of creeps out there. That's OK, Blizzard's product - Blizzard's decision.
My decision's made.
I'll drop in again in a couple of months but it looks like the kids will be getting a copy of 'Sacred 2" each.
I never plan to use LAN myself nor have I ever but again Blizzard should have taken such customers as yourself into more consideration. Shame on them...
The GAME is pretty harmless. I don't think that Diablo is going to put the make on anybody's daughter.
The creeps are the problem - and there's no way Blizzard is going to be able to filter them out. Whatever they may claim it's always better to be safe. Blizzard doesn't have the responsibility for my kids. I do.
I don't have to justify anything. My kids - my decision.
Oh and I don't know about you, but whenever I'm playing with people I know from real life, it just adds to the enjoyment. I know I'd definitely choose multiplayer with my siblings over singleplayer any day.
Thanks for the support mate.
The kids were raised on D2 Lan. Their friends still come over here for LAN parties (Yes, we own enough copies of D2 for that). The parent's are happy because they know where their kids are and who their kids are talking to so us oldies usually sit around over a couple of drinks and chat. Good for them and good for us.
You're absolutely right about playing with people you know well. Us oldies even manage to get in a game once in a while when the kids have a movie or two to watch.
That sounds awesome! Since you have considered to come back for D3 after plenty of D2, obviously the game was satisfying. It would be a shame if they don't allow for LAN. Driving away a target audience after having that aspect available on the previous game...
I just see it as a real kick in the pants to hook you onto Diablo, and then tease you like this when you ask for more.
Also you can easily control battle.net.. if your kids and your kids friend want to play together just see that they join the same private chat room and private game. Just like wow, maybe diablo3 will have some kind of parental control options for accounts.
I've been playing d2 since I was 16 or 17 in battle.net and after diablo i've played numerous other multiplayers. Only effect that the online community has had for me is that I can easily deal with all the nonsense you see online because of my earlier good and bad experiences.
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But aside from that, this is just another perfect example of why Blizzard have absolutely nothing to lose from adding LAN and lots to gain, as in, more sales.
Whats the downside of adding LAN? I can't think of one :confused:
More code to write =]
There are easy ways to make sure you aren't exposed to creeps, just make a password protected game.
About the LAN, it seems most people here are pretty pissed off that we aren't getting it with D3. No doubt somebody will make a LAN mod for the game though, keep your eyes open for one once the game is released, somebody is bound to make one.
And then there is no need for an ultra-high speed internet connection and also living in the same location as the Bnet servers (I love the fact that I lose crucial milliseconds of ping just because I'm an aussie tapping into an american server). With LAN the ping is virtually unnoticeable, so of course it's obvious which you would choose from when given the option of Bnet and LAN.
I don't care how Diablo is rated. Teen, Mature, it's still nothing compared to the internet. And by that logic, every multiplayer game would be rated Teen, if not M. The actual game is not going to scare anyone much besides a few instances like the Butcher (and there's nothing bad about that). Please don't support people like Jack Thomson about the whole "video games cause violence". I'm sure most forum members don't believe that.
I don't understand why Blizzard removed LAN. Seems like a paranoid anti-piracy measure or something. I hope a mod will add this, or Blizzard changes its opinion. And how do you force the kid to stay in a password protected game? That calls for a lot of management for the kid. He'll end up meeting battle.net dwellers regardless, and that's the whole point.
Wait to see what Blizzard does with Bnet. I highly doubt it will be like D2 where you immediately drop into a chatroom full of tards before you can make a game. Remember they have completely remade Bnet from the ground up and it is going to support all of their games, including WoW. Remember they are bringing achievements to all of their games now, Diablo not excluded.
So lets sit back and look at this. A centralized platform for launching all of their products, which now include achievements. Xbox 360 Dashboard anyone?
I expect to see a similar mechanism. It's pretty likely that each Bnet account will open to a dashboard-like interface, and from there you can choose where you want to go, what game you want to launch.
If this is the case, your kids may be able to bypass contact with interneties entirely, and just launch their game, set a password, and their friends just join the game in the same way.
This is speculation until Starcraft 2 Beta launches where they're unveiling the new Bnet for the first time, but my money is on: Xbox 360 Dashboard + Steam = new Bnet.
If they are old enough to play D3 and are not capable of respecting your decisions with regards to how they are allowed to play the game, then there is something seriously wrong with your parenting, and is quite too late to do anything about that (16+?).
Seriously, I hate to say it, but just shut the fuck up. You are in absolutely no position at all to judge that in any way. Attacking someone like this about their ways of "parenting" is the absolute most pathetic thing I have seen around.