I never understood expensive mice. Mine's the cheapest around and it works just fine. As long as it has 2 clicks and a mouse wheel, it's fine for me.
Expensive mice have higher DPI's. Some of us like that. Your standard mice from the store underneath $50 come at 1000 DPI. To me that is completely unusable. I need 3x that to even function.
I'll put it in layman's terms.
A cheap mouse would be like a lab rat.
An expensive and/or awesome mouse would be like a chinchilla.
Quick question, how do you tell what the DPI is of your mouse?
Outside of mouse specific software and manufacturer specifications, I'm unsure. I've yet to find a mouse for under $50 that has higher than 1000 DPI / 125 mhZ polling though =/.
Another interesting thing to note about gaming mice, is that they have a much higher polling rate as well. Typical mice are 125 hz...which means that there's an 8 ms time gap between mouse movement/clicking. Gaming mice have a 1ms time gap. Actually makes a fair bit of a difference in FPS games.
Edit: After you use a 3000 DPI mouse and a 1000 DPI mouse, you can kind of guess the general range of the DPI. DPI basically means that you can move your mouse less for more on-screen movement. I can get my mouse across my screen without really even moving it.
I went ahead and looked up my mouse, and apparently it's an 800 DPI mouse. I am rather fond of it personally. Granted, I've not used a 1,000 or 3,000 DPI mouse before, but I still like my mouse.
Just for the record, what DPI feels right is apparently heavily dependant on the size of your screen. Well, the resolution, anyway.
Personally, a low DPI might work well for me simply because I'm at 1024x768 forever, anywhere. Most people these days game with much higher resolutions and you might feel the lower DPI more.
Might also change depending on how you handle your mouse. There's quite a lot of different way to aim and click.
Typical mice are 125 hz...which means that there's an 8 ms time gap between mouse movement/clicking. Gaming mice have a 1ms time gap. Actually makes a fair bit of a difference in FPS games.
Heh, no, not really. 8 ms is extremely small. People already have naturally very different reaction time and thats all the difference that matters. That extra 7 ms will not help you anytime, anywhere.
Care to give me insight as to how your logic is being concluded?
I can't seem to find evidence of any pussy on my Razer peripherals.
Relax. Im super serious about computer peripherals being 'pussy'
I'm lax. I was just curious as to why you were hatin' on Razer :P.
And the difference between 1ms and 8ms matters. It has nothing to do with human reaction.
That 7 MS is still time that your enemy could have. Assuming both of you shoot at the same time, and he has a 1000mhz mouse, and you have a 125 mhz mouse...well..assuming you both also have exactly 50 ping...it makes a difference.
It's a very marginal increase, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.
I'm lax. I was just curious as to why you were hatin' on Razer :P.
And the difference between 1ms and 8ms matters. It has nothing to do with human reaction.
That 7 MS is still time that your enemy could have. Assuming both of you shoot at the same time, and he has a 1000mhz mouse, and you have a 125 mhz mouse...well..assuming you both also have exactly 50 ping...it makes a difference.
It's a very marginal increase, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.
Actually just about any half decent mouse can have its polling rate increased to 500 or 1000 by hacking the driver (essential in FPS pro-gaming). All of these expensive gaming mice simply come with drivers that automatically increase the polling rate for you.
I'm lax. I was just curious as to why you were hatin' on Razer :P.
And the difference between 1ms and 8ms matters. It has nothing to do with human reaction.
That 7 MS is still time that your enemy could have. Assuming both of you shoot at the same time, and he has a 1000mhz mouse, and you have a 125 mhz mouse...well..assuming you both also have exactly 50 ping...it makes a difference.
It's a very marginal increase, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.
Actually just about any half decent mouse can have its polling rate increased to 500 or 1000 by hacking the driver (essential in FPS pro-gaming). All of these expensive gaming mice simply come with drivers that automatically increase the polling rate for you.
Mine can go to 5600 dpi but i use it at around 1800 regularily, and lower for fps. However, high DPI i beyond useful when running 3 monitors side by side.
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What do you guys know about the steel series gaming mice? i want to get the diablo 3 mouse when its released to replace my logitech G3 which, needless to say, is getting old but has been a great mouse for 3 years straight now, gaming FPS's and WoW. im kind of a die hard logitech fan(g15 and g35 are in my arsenal) so im kind of looking at the G9x as a replacement, but all the logitech mice out now seem an odd shape for how i hold my mice. i never liked the g5 for example(hence why i got the G3 instead those 3 years ago) and the reason i look to the G9x is for the swapable "form" it has.
anyways, the steelseries diablo mouse looks like a good shape and size for my preferences, i just dont know how the steelseries stuff holds up. the most i ever owned from them is a mousepad, which is great BTW.
What do you guys know about the steel series gaming mice? i want to get the diablo 3 mouse when its released to replace my logitech G3 which, needless to say, is getting old but has been a great mouse for 3 years straight now, gaming FPS's and WoW. im kind of a die hard logitech fan(g15 and g35 are in my arsenal) so im kind of looking at the G9x as a replacement, but all the logitech mice out now seem an odd shape for how i hold my mice. i never liked the g5 for example(hence why i got the G3 instead those 3 years ago) and the reason i look to the G9x is for the swapable "form" it has.
anyways, the steelseries diablo mouse looks like a good shape and size for my preferences, i just dont know how the steelseries stuff holds up. the most i ever owned from them is a mousepad, which is great BTW.
I heard they're very flimsy and of a bad design. I also heard they fall apart and what-not. I haven't tried one myself though.
Edit: I've had my Razer setup for a year and it's all still working so we'll see how long it lasts ^.^.
well then, thanks for the info, i guess G9x it is for me then.... lol.
I've never tried them personally so don't take what I say like it's factual. I've only had a few buddies try them out, but we all ended with Razer in the end.
Meh, for the prices neither offers much. Between all the adjustments, you still can't control the height, which is a pretty much factor for long gaming sessions. It gets okay reviews, and Chilla Frilla, who I trust for good unbiased reviews, wasn't all too impressed.
It's all preference really. I like big mice with lots of buttons, and some flashy lights to entertain me during loading times, or when my ADD kicks in
I'm not sure what the audio is like on this video since I have my speakers unplugged at the moment, but it clearly shows all the things I love about the Naga Epic. Function buttons, size, lights.
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It depends on the user. If I try to use lower DPI I absolutely CANNOT kill ANYTHING in ANY game. There really shouldn't be a guide to how comfortable a person feels. And I use far above 1280x1024.
I hate moving my mouse more than an inch to an inch and a half. It feels absolutely sluggy, horrid, and...just down-right awful. Three inches is quite a bit.
How about instead of saying you could use 341 DPI, you set your mouse to 300 DPI, and try to play. It moves so slow that it's ridiculous.
Also, I'm relatively sure that dividing it by that much won't quite work that way. Using 2000 I have to move my mouse almost two inches to cross a 1920x1080. This is why I have it even higher.
I'm not going to argue about it though. Keep using your 400 and I'll use my 3k DPI and absolutely destroying stuff in every game I play (:
Edit: Sorry if I seem like an a-hole right now. I don't mean to be. With a very close relative passing yesterday and other stressful things happening today, I'm kind of tightly wound. My sincerest apologies.
None of that pussy razer shit
Care to give me insight as to how your logic is being concluded?
I can't seem to find evidence of any pussy on my Razer peripherals.
Expensive mice have higher DPI's. Some of us like that. Your standard mice from the store underneath $50 come at 1000 DPI. To me that is completely unusable. I need 3x that to even function.
I'll put it in layman's terms.
A cheap mouse would be like a lab rat.
An expensive and/or awesome mouse would be like a chinchilla.
Outside of mouse specific software and manufacturer specifications, I'm unsure. I've yet to find a mouse for under $50 that has higher than 1000 DPI / 125 mhZ polling though =/.
Another interesting thing to note about gaming mice, is that they have a much higher polling rate as well. Typical mice are 125 hz...which means that there's an 8 ms time gap between mouse movement/clicking. Gaming mice have a 1ms time gap. Actually makes a fair bit of a difference in FPS games.
Edit: After you use a 3000 DPI mouse and a 1000 DPI mouse, you can kind of guess the general range of the DPI. DPI basically means that you can move your mouse less for more on-screen movement. I can get my mouse across my screen without really even moving it.
Personally, a low DPI might work well for me simply because I'm at 1024x768 forever, anywhere. Most people these days game with much higher resolutions and you might feel the lower DPI more.
Might also change depending on how you handle your mouse. There's quite a lot of different way to aim and click.
Heh, no, not really. 8 ms is extremely small. People already have naturally very different reaction time and thats all the difference that matters. That extra 7 ms will not help you anytime, anywhere.
I'm lax. I was just curious as to why you were hatin' on Razer :P.
And the difference between 1ms and 8ms matters. It has nothing to do with human reaction.
That 7 MS is still time that your enemy could have. Assuming both of you shoot at the same time, and he has a 1000mhz mouse, and you have a 125 mhz mouse...well..assuming you both also have exactly 50 ping...it makes a difference.
It's a very marginal increase, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.
Actually just about any half decent mouse can have its polling rate increased to 500 or 1000 by hacking the driver (essential in FPS pro-gaming). All of these expensive gaming mice simply come with drivers that automatically increase the polling rate for you.
See : http://wiki.quakeworld.nu/Howto_customise_mouse_polling_rate
You can google up some win7/vista instructions on how to hack it.
Nice find
Still have to worry about DPI though. (:
"Except real money trading has always been present in Diablo 2. Except now it's going to be officially supported which will reduce scams, prevent the funding of the black market so your kids will no longer be exposed to dangerous life ruining drugs like the cancer causing marijuana."
anyways, the steelseries diablo mouse looks like a good shape and size for my preferences, i just dont know how the steelseries stuff holds up. the most i ever owned from them is a mousepad, which is great BTW.
I heard they're very flimsy and of a bad design. I also heard they fall apart and what-not. I haven't tried one myself though.
Edit: I've had my Razer setup for a year and it's all still working so we'll see how long it lasts ^.^.
I've never tried them personally so don't take what I say like it's factual. I've only had a few buddies try them out, but we all ended with Razer in the end.
It's all preference really. I like big mice with lots of buttons, and some flashy lights to entertain me during loading times, or when my ADD kicks in
I'm not sure what the audio is like on this video since I have my speakers unplugged at the moment, but it clearly shows all the things I love about the Naga Epic. Function buttons, size, lights.
It depends on the user. If I try to use lower DPI I absolutely CANNOT kill ANYTHING in ANY game. There really shouldn't be a guide to how comfortable a person feels. And I use far above 1280x1024.
I hate moving my mouse more than an inch to an inch and a half. It feels absolutely sluggy, horrid, and...just down-right awful. Three inches is quite a bit.
How about instead of saying you could use 341 DPI, you set your mouse to 300 DPI, and try to play. It moves so slow that it's ridiculous.
Also, I'm relatively sure that dividing it by that much won't quite work that way. Using 2000 I have to move my mouse almost two inches to cross a 1920x1080. This is why I have it even higher.
I'm not going to argue about it though. Keep using your 400 and I'll use my 3k DPI and absolutely destroying stuff in every game I play (:
Edit: Sorry if I seem like an a-hole right now. I don't mean to be. With a very close relative passing yesterday and other stressful things happening today, I'm kind of tightly wound. My sincerest apologies.