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    posted a message on How popular is season 18? A naive data analysis attempt.

    Maybe some of you fellow HC players have noticed that the servers have been acting up lately, as also reported by others. Combined with the mixed reception of the seasonal theme (some people saying they don't like it; some clearly enjoying it), I was wondering how popular this season is. Of course we don't know any player numbers, as Blizzard isn't sharing them. So I thought: why not use the stats from a D3-related website that has been up and running for several seasons with no major changes nor announcements to compare the different seasons? I went ahead and did some very basic plotting of D3Resource.com. Here's what it looks like, annotated (click here or on the pic for higher resolution):


    I thought it provided some interesting insights (obviously this is just me guessing based on crude, superficial data analysis):

    • The Triune season is indeed a bit less popular than LoN. Which is surprising to me, as I felt 2.6.6 has more in store than 2.6.5 (some set revamps, new legendary powers, an actually newly implemented mechanic as season theme). My guess is that the summer release timing and the upcoming WoW Classic release had some people skip this season.
    • I was very surprised that 2.6.1 saw more traffic than 2.6.0. I believe this is, again, due to the Necro DLC hitting in summer; also, the release of 2.6.1 fell together with Blizzcon, which has always brought people back (I always see a few spikes in traffic around Blizzcon).
    • Looking at the graph, it looks as if balance changes are almost as successful in bringing people back to D3 as large content patches (compare S10 and S16 to S11) - especially after a long drought.
    • A similarly interesting insight is that the introduction of season themes alone was not interesting enough to bring people back (S14) - but a set revamp was (S16). This sort of makes me question Blizzard's statement about the introduction of seasonal themes being highly successful. By what measure? Are my numbers so off here?
    • The last, really interesting insight I want to make is that of player retention. It seems as if two seasons in particular were able to keep players engaged for a bit longer than the rest - S11 (Necro DLC) and S17 (LoN theme). Which brings me to a point I made countless times: Diablo is a loot-based game. A new class gives you more new loot to hunt. A push for LoN builds prolongs the loot hunt, because it takes longer to get a full ancient set. Want players to play more than just the weekend? Give us something exciting to loot on day 2.

    Ending on the obvious caveat - this graph represents visitors on my personal website. It's from the entire domain of D3Resource, but the bulk by far (>80%) comes from the Season Journey Tracker, and the graph looks the same if I sample only for that. Also, I did not account for anomalies (e.g., a sudden increase from some random website that shared any of my links prominently).

    TL;DR: I looked at some graphs and determined that if Blizzard gives us a reason for a prolonged/new loot hunt, or shakes up some set damage numbers, more people play Diablo 3. #shocking!

    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
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    posted a message on [S18 SSF] Join the Season 18 Solo Self-Found League!

    Enjoy playing solo? Looking for a challenge? Bored of meta and rat runs? Or just looking for something "a bit different" this season?

    Join the Season 18 Solo Self-Found League!

    The SSF League is a community-organized effort to shake things up a bit and give those who prefer playing solo new goals to strive for. Participating is very simple, as there is no sign-up or registration. All you have to do is submit your highest GR clears - and of course to play solo. The SSF League ends after 30 days, so once the "meta is settled" and the S18 alternative to rat runs has been found, you can join groups for the last two months of the season and push for that GR150 clear!

    For more details, main organizer Garfm has put together a comprehensive Google Doc with rules and frequently asked questions. He also said up SSF channels on his Discord!

    This season we are lucky to have some well-known community members joining us in the SSF (in addition to aforementioned organizer and accomplished speed runner Garfm who will be streaming as well):

    More to come! Planning to join as well? While there is no registration requirement, it is fun to know who you'll be racing against - so post a reply if you're up for it and want to join the fray! You can also join our clans (purely optional, not at all required) - | Solo Self Found | and SSFTW on NA, and SSFEU on EU!

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    posted a message on Season Journey Tracker

    Thanks! I'll prep the site in the background so it's ready when S18 hits live.

    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
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    posted a message on Diablo 4 - What we know (or assume to know) so far

    As the silence seems to make way to occasional news about Diablo 4, I thought it would be good to have a thread that offers everything in one place. I'll add stuff to it in reverse chronological order, so the most recent info is always to be found at the top. If there's anything I'm missing, just reply to this thread and I'll add it.

    June 20, 2019: Diablo 4 allegedly shown to Blizzard France employees

    Source: LeMonde (french). Article talks more about the internal struggle after the massive layoffs, no new gameplay insight.

    June 6, 2019: StarCraft FPS cancelled, focus on developing Diablo 4

    Source: Kotaku. A first person shooter in the StarCraft universe was cancelled to shift more development onto Diablo 4 and a Left 4 Dead-style Overwatch 2. Blizzard took the time for an official response, semi-confirming it.

    November 21, 2018: Diablo 4 internally first codenamed "Hades", then "Fenris"

    Source: Kotaku. For a nice summary of a few bullet points, I'll just cite this thread by KainneAbsolute on MMO:

    Project Hades: Diablo IV

    • Team 3 (Diablo team) was going to start the development of the second expansion of Diablo 3 after the release of Reaper of Souls, but they
    • received the order to stop. It really surprised them because RoS recovered some of the lost faith of the players in the franchise and they have a few things planned.
    • Seems weird because after all, D3 and ROS are successful games.
    • Team 3 was scattered. Some people went ot other franchises.
    • Project Hades: They were asked to start Diablo IV development immediately. They didnt understood the reasons: they didnt wait to look the
    • performance of RoS in the following months. Maybe they considered that Diablo III was already a failure and RoS was a good moment to leave
      everything in a well manner.
    • Diablo 4 has some development. The idea was a third person Dark Souls Style game.
    • The change in style was so big, they started to think if it was ok to call it Diablo 4.
    • However it was cancelled and rebooted in 2016. They dont know if it was because Mosqueira left the company in the same year. Mosqueira denied to declare for this article.
    • The Rise of the Necromancer was a way to appease the fans.
    • ‘Man, if we had just done that second expansion instead of losing half the team as a result of the cancellation, and then all of the
    • personnel changes, management changes, then this walk down the road of Hades… If we hadn’t done any of that and had just focused on doing a solid third act for Diablo, it’d be out by now.’”

    Project Fenris: Diablo IV reboot

    • Really early in development.
    • "They want to make this gross, make it dark, [get rid of] anything that was considered cartoony in Diablo III… Make what people were afraid of in Diablo II, but modern."
    • Principles: embrace the Darkness and More social.
    • More social? Hub cities and instanced dungeons.
    • Team feels enthusiastic and optimistic for the new concept, however it wont see some light until 2020. They want to announce it with a playable demo.
    • Isometric camera angle game...for now. They are not sure.
    • The team expected and announcement and teaser this year or during Blizzcon. Blizzard heads changed their minds. Blizzards other department
    • and Blizzcon planner said there wasnt going to be a Diablo 4 announcement. Lack of communication.
    • They didnt talk about how to monetize it. Blizzard looks to the example of HS and OW.

    (Below: posts before or just shortly after Blizzcon that do not directly hint at "news".)

    November 7, 2018: A Quick Word from Blizzard

    Source: Official forums

    Nevalistis: "Since the moment we stepped into the office on Monday, we have been discussing everything Diablo non-stop. We’re fully committed to listening and engaging—so please keep the constructive feedback coming. Our primary focus right now is poring over that feedback to inform internal discussions, and we’ll follow up with further thoughts as soon as we can."

    "We continue to read feedback and our internal discussions are ongoing. We have many plans for Diablo across multiple projects which we’ll be revealing over the course of the coming year. We are eager to share more about all of our projects, but some will have to wait as we prefer to show you, rather than tell you, about them. It's going to take some time as we strive to meet your expectations, but now, more than ever, we are committed to delivering Diablo experiences the community can be proud of.

    - The Diablo Teams -"

    August 8, 2018: Multiple Diablo projects in the works

    Source: Youtube

    Nevalistis: [...] We’d also like to let you know that the forges here at Blizzard are burning hot. And we have multiple Diablo projects in the works. Some of them are going to take longer than others. But we may have some things to show you later this year. We hope you stay tuned, while we work to bring these Diablo experiences to life. None of this would be possible without the support that you have shown us for over 20 years.

    So whether you first joined us in Diablo 3 or you are a seasoned veteran, thank you. Diablo is, and always will be, part of Blizzard’s identity, and we can’t wait for the future.

    Posted in: Diablo - Unannounced Project
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    posted a message on DiabloFans Giveaway - Win Rise of the Necromancer or Diablo + Hellfire!

    To celebrate the return of DiabloFans, we're giving away three Rise of the Necromancer DLCs or Diablo 1 + Hellfire!

    The giveaway is hosted through our GiveawayBot on Discord, all you need to do to enter is to click the 🎉 reaction underneath the post in the #announcements channel.

    Link to join the Diablofans Discord: https://discord.gg/8r7gSbB


      • Your Discord account needs to have been created on or before June 19th, 2019
      • Participants must not be affiliated with Diablofans or Magic Find
      • The Necro DLC is PC only, available in US, EU or SEA regions. Not available in China.
      • Alternatively, you can choose the Diablo 1 + Hellfire bundle on GOG.com. You will need a GOG.com account.
      • Void where prohibited
      • The giveaway ends in 3 days - that's Saturday, June 23, 13:45 UTC.

    Prize(s) and Winner Selection Method:

      • Diablofans will award three Necro DLC or Diablo + Hellfire bundles (Retail Value: $9.99 USD each) to an automatic and randomly selected participant.
      • Odds of winning depends on the number of eligible entries received
      • Prize may not be redeemed as cash and will be delivered as a gift to participant's Blizzard Battle.net account (DLC) or via email (GOG bundle)
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
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    posted a message on Diablofans is back! ? !!!

    I have no idea what's happening. But clearly, *something* was missing. Let's see what the future holds! Anyone still alive and kicking?

    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
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    posted a message on DiabloFans says farewell. Let's celebrate the good old times once more!

    Well, the news hit the frontpage, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who's shocked, surprised, and extremely saddened by it. I can sort of understand aspects of it - traffic has gone down, and from a mod view I can say that I have to remove more spam posts each day than I can enjoy reading new posts. Nevertheless, I thought this could've been a nice place to hang out even if the franchise is going downhill (is it though?). But well. Ain't gonna happen.

    But instead of endless complaining about things we can't change, why don't we all revisit our past, share our memorable DFans moments, and take a look into the future? Look at your post history to go down the memory lane. So, I'll start:


    I joined Diablofans about six and a half years ago because I had a stupid question about making an Inferno tank barb to support my two DH friends. That kind of didn't go anywhere, so I switched to my other main char (Archon wizard) which should soon become my passion. To share some of the insights I gained from reading up and theorycrafting some of the wizard stuff, I wrote a guide which maybe some of you remember (RoS edition as the old one was from the old forum software and looks ugly, but the first one was written over Christmas 2012). I continued to make a few guides (see thread history, some I didn't even remember like an 1-70 leveling guide, lol) and also my small website (http://d3resource.com/), I think the reason for making D3Resource was that I needed a domain to host my CHD vs CHC calc.

    I don't remember when I became mod, because that really didn't matter; what I do remember is the lot of awesome people that I met on Diablofans, ingame, or on both channels. Some of those have sadly long gone, like Jaetch and Loroese - the two best wizard theorycrafters Diablo had (pre-RoS). I also have to mention overneathe, who introduced me to the DFans mod world (without him I wouldn't be here), and his successor Zero(pS). We didn't just play DIablo - do you guys remember the Terraria times? That was fun! There are so many more names I can and probably should list, but many of them were unfortunately purged in the recent transition phase when Fandom took over, and many don't check this forum anymore. But if you do please say high in here!!!

    Unfortunately over the years the forum became more and more inactive, and I prefer old-school forums much, much more than Reddit (I just can't deal with the strange thread style, makes it impossible to read "all new posts") and even worse all the video-based info (I'd rather read a long, well-written guide than watch a 10 minute video on Youtube). But I guess that makes me a dinosaur, I dying breed, one that doesn't like to play games on phones ;-)

    So, what's up next? I will maintain D3Resource, at least for now. I might lag behind with some updates, honestly, but the best way to contact me is shoot me a Reddit message. I think I'm still behind on the S16 season overview but honestly... not in the mood right now, given recent events. Also, work. If I ever were to abandon D3Resource, I would probably zip all the source code and throw it to someone, so no worries, it won't magically disappear. But it's a static website and I host a lot of old stuff (like a forum that has a much older community, founded in 1997, with less than 10 posts over the last 10 years ;-)). No worries.

    I'm not sure about my personal future in Diablo. To be honest, as I expressed here, my view on Blizzard/Diablo shifted. I literally played 8-10 hours for the last 4 seasons each (went online, got a power level, rushed to get Guardian done as fast as possible, delete). S16 took me a bit more than 7 hours to finish Guardian. I'm not sure it's gonna be more given that D3 feels a bit stale to me and PoE looks so much more exciting. I just recently started (~2 months ago) but If someone has a place for a noob (I just played up 3 builds and tried to learn as much as possible, but only tried Shaper once and no kill yet) let me know, I'm sort of looking for a guild, preferably with Discord (and potentially forum, haha, you know me). What a cheap plug, but well, gotta seize the opportunity! I'm also occasionally playing SC2 co-op which I really enjoy (and watching WCS). Once Dfans is gone, I'll continue posting on Reddit, I'm regularly in the chat channel of svr's Discord (where we discuss D3, PoE, and SC2),and maybe we meet elsewhere. See my battle tag in my forum profile (bagstone#2613) or PoE (bagstone).

    Thanks everyone for making this a nice home for so many years! <3

    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
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    posted a message on Season Journey Tracker

    I made a thing: The Season Journey Tracker!


    Here's what it looks like in action:

    Super simple concept - just as you doing the Season Journey click on a task to keep an overview of what you have done and what still needs to be done. The status is saved in a cookie. Pay attention to the in-game popups because you can complete many season journey objectives that aren't even visible yet, so this website might help you to keep an overview.

    For feedback, you can contact me on Reddit:


    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
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    posted a message on EU maintenance starts in like 4 and half hours
    Quote from FEIF»

    so much hate in the respons from the twitter

    Is it hate? I think it's just sarcasm to deal with recent events. Blizzard has a history of "keeping us waiting". It used to mean that they deliver better quality work, and the wait was worthwhile. Recently (and I'm talking years, not just since Blizzcon) the wait just results in even bigger disappointment. I wish they'd go back to the old standard of delivering quality - then there'd be no sarcasm/hate (or whatever you wanna call it). There was none of that even a few years ago, so this problem is entirely their own fault, and they can fix this, by giving us clear signs of addressing their consumers' concerns :)

    We're the consumers, they want our money, so that's just my 0.02$ ;-)

    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
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    posted a message on Barbarian's Tattoos

    Context: This thread was "necro-ed" by a spam bot. However, zooheaded's reply was legit. And honestly, it's not like we have a million posts these days such that we need to shut down any activity... ;-)

    Also: Happy New Year!

    Posted in: Fan Art
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