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Sep 17, 2013

Bagstone posted a message on Stock up on gems now?

Quote from Cthulu

I think most ppl will start playing ladder, and maybe not really care about noneladder some time, so imo theres no point in saving anything :).. only you gear so you can play your chars :P.

Unless there are some awesome casual player catering items ladder-only, like low-level runewords in D2, I won't play ladder.

I HATE losing all my achievements and character progression just because some Wizard of Oz decides to push the magic button. It goes against my definition of RPG. Hopefully I can stay away from ladder and gear up my character for years.

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Sep 17, 2013

Tecnorobo posted a message on Gold Auction House and Real Money Auction House SHUTTING DOWN!

Let the old lurkers like me come out in droves. Hello Diablo 3. You might just become what I hoped you be.

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Sep 4, 2013

Zakumene posted a message on What's the point of Loot 2.0 Patch ?

So you kill stuff and get crazy loot and instant gratification all the time? What game are you playing?

How do you not see the appeal in this?

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Aug 31, 2013

Timesink posted a message on Wizard Skill Review for RoS

In general, I was pretty happy about the teaser information provided about the Reaper of Souls expansion but a recent post by Grimiku regarding adjustments to existing skills made me much more optimistic.

We think the expansion is a great time for it, so we'll be giving all of the existing classes (Barbarian, Demon Hunter, Monk, Witch Doctor, and Wizard) skill updates in Reaper of Souls. We're looking to make adjustments that improve the experience for skills that are currently underused, or have balance issues. These changes will likely be part of the pre-expansion patch, but new skills will require players to purchase the expansion to access them.

Source: http://us.battle.net...09306?page=2#30

Of all the classes the wizard is by far my favorite. I wanted to parse through her existing skills, runes and passives and make suggestions on how they could be tweaked (and in some cases, totally revamped) to encourage build diversity. By necessity this review will be from a hardcore perspective as that is all I have played in D3, having gotten hooked on hardcore in D2. But with a few exceptions I think most of the comments here translate well to softcore.

While I don't have the data Blizzard has regarding which skills are used the least, it is pretty easy to guess. Other than two basic builds--permanent Archon and CM--no wizard builds are considered endgame viable. Blue posts have said (can't find the reference) that of all the classes wizards (and barbs) have the least skill diversity. Thus there is a lot of work to do here. At the same time there is are great opportunities for improvement.

For all of the proposed changes I'm going to avoid giving exact percentages in terms of weapon damage. I assume that all those numbers will have to be tweaked in RoS and I don't have the data about changes to other combat systems to suggest values for these percentages. Where appropriate I will note when a skill should do more or less damage (relative to the other skills) than is currently the case now.

And yes, this is long. Very, very long. But this is our opportunity to start a discussion that could influence how wizards play in the expansion. I hope people can add their thoughts here and some of the ideas will eventually be noticed by Blizzard.

Primary Skills
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Of all the different active skill groups, primary/signature skills need the most severe changes. It is safe to say that the original design--that wizards alternate between regenerating arcane power while using signature skills and nuking things with stored arcane power--is a failure. The two viable builds both cicumvent the AP mechanic completely. Skills in archon form don't use AP and CM builds have enough APoC to never have to really worry about AP. Other than one rune of one skill (Living Lightning) neither build uses a signature skill at all.

This is not the case with other classes. For example, Monks have no issues using Fists of Thunder/Thunderclap as part of many builds. Why is this? Because in addition to help with resource creation, the skills also have utility. The idea here is to make it so that players don't look exclsively for ways to not use signature skills but to give reasons that they would want to.

Given that AP regeneration isn't enough of a reason to use a signature skill, the first suggested change to all of the signature skills is to bake in any AP generation runes into the base skill. The hope is that it makes them viable alternatives to stacking APoC and CHC in every build.

___Magic Missile___

Of the four signature skills, magic missile suffers the most. In addition to the AP generation issues described previously, Magic Missile also has the dreaded single target problem. Single target skills in D3 are most often weaker than AOE skills because the task at hand is most often to destroy hordes of monsters, not individual ones. Therefore the propsed changes to Magic Missile are the most severe.

The base magic missile spell should be changed to include the effect of the Seeker rune. This gives Magic Missile some utility the same way Hungering Arrow works for Demon Hunters. Additionally, as noted above, Magic Missile would automatically return some AP on hit so the Attunement rune can be replaced. The amount of AP returned can vary based on rune choice.

Charged Blast

Modified to increase the damage of Magic Missile and gives it a small chance to stun the target. Combined with Temporal Flux, this would give Charged Blast some much needed utility. Other changes (such as making it explode on impact) make it too much like Arcane Orb. I'm still skeptical that even with these changes (generating AP, seeking, small chance to stun) that anyone would use it but at least the potential is there.

Split

No change here other than the overall changes--seeking and AP generation. Each missile could seek a different target. The AP generation per hit would have to be reduced to account for the multiple hits.

Penetrating Blast

If this is to work like Hungering Arrow the penetration chance has to be reduced or the number of targets an indvidual missile can hit needs to be capped. AP generation per hit would of course have to be adjusted based on the maximum number of targetst that could be hit. But again, a single missile that seeks targets, penetrates, and bounces between them at least has some potential for use.

Ice Shard

The Attunement rune is unneeded since all casts of signature spells would generate AP. In its place would be Ice Shard. Ice Shard would change the missile into a sliver of ice that explodes on impact doing a small amount of damage to nearby targets. More importantly, the damage type is naturally changed to cold damage, giving wizards a much needed cold-based signature ability. The potential interactions with Cold Blooded would promote build diversity. Note that the shard would still seek and gerneate a little AP, as dicated by the changes to the base skill.

Heat Seeker

Seeker is also replaced as its effect is included in the base skill. Its replacement is Heat Seeker. Heat Seeker changes the missile into a small fire ball that tracks down the nearest target. Again, interactions with Conflagration could allow for more build diversity. I still am not sure it would be of use if it is still strictly single target but the proposed changes (seeking, AP generation, fire damage) is a decent start.

___Shock Pulse___

Shock Pulse is in a slightly better place than Magic Missile as it does AOE damage. But other than the use of Living Lightning as a Critical Mass or APoC generator, Shock Pulse is not part of any viable wizard builds.

Explosive Bolts

Explosive Bolts is actually one of my favorite wizard skills but I'm forced to stop using it come endgame. The biggest problem is one shared by a number of skills--the interesting proc is basically negated in group play. With other classes nuking groups of monsters the chances of getting the actual killing blow is too low. Ideally this should be changed to say "Enemies damaged by Explosive Bolts explode when slain."

Fire Bolts

No thematic changes here but it is my understanding the Fire Bolts don't actually do fire damage and thus don't interact with Conflagration. Obviously this oversight should be corrected.

Piercing Orb

I'm not exactly sure how to change Piercing Orb to make it desirable in endgame builds. The path of the orb, while visually interesting, makes it hard to use. Simple changes could include making it easier to hit desired targets and increasing damage done but suggestions welcome.

Lightning Nova

The old Lightning Affinity is unneeded with the change that all signature skills generate some amount of AP. Replacing it would be Lightning Nova, which changes the skill to create a lightning pulse that radiates out from the wizard in a complete circle. This is a shout out to the D2 skill nova, which was one of my personal favorites. Lightning Nova would give "melee wizards" an interesting choice of a signature skill.

Living Lightning

Again no thematic changes. In general, the conjured beings should do more damage and proc effects less, to give other signature skills a chance to compete. The beings should also last longer as an increase in range would help distinquish this rune from the other Shock Pulse runes.

___Spectral Blade___

Of all the wizard signature skills, Spectral Blade is probably in the best place. The fact that it transfers weapon damage to the blades has the potential for interesting interactions with other skills and passives. Clearly it isn't quite good enough, as except for novelty builds, spectral blades is rarely utilized.

Deep Cuts

The idea here is fine. Maybe an increase in overall damage (initial and bleed) would make this rune more attractive and a go to choice for melee wizards looking for good damage from a signature skill. That combined with the baked in AP generation might make it viable.

Impactful Blades

Again, good concept but not enough utility to make anyone actually use it. The slow effect should last longer than 1 second and affect attack/casting speed as well as movement.

Siphoning Blade

Same name, different effect. Siphoning Blade now draws in enemies struck in the same way Cyclone Strike works for a monk. This would give a melee wizard a skill choice that allows her to cluster enemies for a follow-up attack.

Healing Blades

No change (other than the default AP generation of all signature skills).

Thown Blade

No change (other than the default AP generation of all signature skills).

___Electrocute___

Despite have good range and good AOE, Electrocute in inferno is a rare sight. I was tempted to suggest that all runes of Electrocute include the effects of Chain Lightning by default but the interactions with some of the existing runes didn't make sense. But clearly changes are needed.

Chain Lightning

No real change. The proc rate on Paralysis needs to be improved. The hope is that with increased proc chance and AP generation, Chain Lightning becomes attactive enough to be considered.

Heat Lightning

Forked Ligntning is removed to allow for a more interesting effect. Heat Lightning changes the damage type of Electrocute to both fire and lightning damage allowing it to take advantage of both Paralysis and Conflagration. It should also increase the damage done to allow it to compete with the other runes which hit more targets.

Lightning Blast

No change (other than the default AP generation of all signature skills).

Ice Rift

Surge of Power isn't needed because of the automatic AP generation. Ice Rift causes spikes of ice to snake along the ground (in a similar path to lightning) causing cold damage to all enemies impacted. This gives ranged wizards a cold primary to work with Cold Blooded.

Arc Lightning

No thematic change--I wouldn't want to mess with people's ability to role play the dark side. That said, it needs to do a bit more damage.

Secondary Skills
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Other than Distegrate and a few runes choices, the Secondary Skills are grossly under used in endgame builds. A number of changes are necessary to make them attactive enough choices.

___Ray of Frost___

Patch changes to Ray of Frost have made it more used in the case of the Black Ice rune. Additional rune changes would promote build diversity.

Numb

Given the single target nature of Ray of Frost, the mild increase in slow amount from 60% to 80% is way too insignificant to make this rune a viable choice. The effects need to either last longer, include attack/cast speed reductions, and/or give a chance to freeze the target in place. Some combination of those changes would make Ray of Frost have enough crowd control ability to be interesting. (Though using the term crowd control on a single target spell is tenuous, at best.)

Snow Blast

Decent thematic effect but needs to do more damage. Let Snow Blast be the single target nuke for bosses, elites and ubers but to be a real choice it needs absolutely wreck single targets.

Cold Blooded

In the original D3 beta / notes, Cold Blooded reduced the cost of Ray of Frost to zero, not ten. I suggest it should reduce the cost to somewhere in between, making it more cost neutral when balanced against AP regeneration. Furthermore, Cold Blooded should be considered a signature spell and allow interaction with Prodigy and Arcane Dynamo.

Sleet Storm

No signficant changes needed as Sleet Storm does enough damage that a few experimental builds use it. The biggest problems with Sleet Storm is that getting hit often interrupts the channel. Suggested changes include making the wizard resistant to interrupt while channeling and increasing the radius of the storm. If that isn't enough to make it viable, allowing the wizard to move (at a reduced rate ala unruned whirlwind) could be considered.

Black Ice

No changes in single player are really needed. Black Ice builds are one of the few current choices that can compete with Archon / CM builds. However, in group play Black Ice suffers greatly as it is very hard to get a killing blow when group members are raining down death and destruction with AOE abilities. Therefore the description should be changed to read "Enemies damaged with Ray of Frost leave a patch of ice when they die that..."

___Arcane Orb___

On paper Arcane Orb should be fine. In practice you never see Arcane Orb in inferno--I think I've seen one random wizard using Celestial Orb in hours and hours of inferno farming. The basic problem is damage per AP cost. If the concept is wizards build AP via signature skills and then nuke using other skills then Arcane Orb needs to really hurt when it hits. The base damage of Arcane Orb needs to increase and/or the cost needs to decrease.

Obliteration

With a name like Obliteration it needs to do signficant damage. A simple change here, increase the damage done relative to signature skills signficantly.

Arcane Orbit

A cool concept with poor execution. The orbs need to orbit with a larger radius to be useful. As it is now, monsters have to be right next to you in order to trigger the explosion. And of course the explosions need to do more damage.

Arcane Nova

If base damage has been increased and cost decreased then the larger area of effect granted by this rune should be enough to make it viable.

Tap the Soruce

Again a good idea but too limited in scope. Really reduce the AP cost here and encourage a gun slinging build where the wizard covers the screen in arcane orbs. If that isn't enough, sucessful strikes could trigger a mild resource generation boost in nearby party members.

Celestial Orb

Once again if base damage is increased and cost decreased then this rune should be more viable.

___Arcane Torrent___

One of the runes of Arcane Torrent (Arcane Mines) is very close to being viable and another (Death Blossom) has been included in a novelty build. A few small tweaks should hopefully make Arcane Torrent a legitimate choice.

Distruption

A good concept that clearly doesn't go far enough to make people use it. Obvious potential changes include increasing the duration and the additional damage granted by the debuff. It should be made clear that additional hits from the same channel take adavantage of the debuff. With improvements to other arcane based skills hopefully Distruption becomes more viable.

Death Blossom

There's no arguing that Death Blossom doesn't do tons of damage but the targeting is so sporatic it is generally considered not worth the skill slot. Suggested changes include larger area of effect of each individual hit (giving a greater coverage area) and possibly allowing the wizard to move while she channels Death Blossom.

Arcane Mines

Arcane Mines is actually semi-viable in a few builds. I've used it enough in key farming runs to both like it and be very frustrated by it. Two changes are necesary. One, the arming period needs to be removed. In group play, the monsters are often dead before the arming period finishes. Two, the trigger radius needs to be slightly increased. As it stands, a monster needs to walk directly over the mine to trigger it--monsters seem to walk 1/4 yard away from the mine unharmed.

Power Stone

Good thematic concept but in practice the 2% proc rate (I think) just makes this rune go unchosen. Suggested changes include increasing the proc rate and giving power stones grant health in addition to arcane power.

Cascade

Again on paper this seems like it should work, especially if the new missile explodes with AOE damage like the original missile. I'm somewhat at a loss as to why it doesnt work. The description suggests that every enemy struck in the orignal blast should fire off a missile of their own. Is the area of effect just too small? Open to suggestions here.

___Distengrate___

Distengrate comes the closest to actually competing with Archon/CM builds. Unfortunately only in combination with Blizzard and Cold Blooded but Disentegrate probably needs the fewest changes of any of the Secondary Skills. To the base skill a minor increase in damage and/or reduction in AP cost would be good.

Divergence

I just have to change the name of the Convergence rune since it actually widens the beam not narrows it. Overall the effect is fine.

Chaos Nexus

No real change needed outside of a possible increase in damage of the secondary beams.

Volatility

A small tweak to the radius of the explosion would make this rune compete well with Divergence. Additionally the explosion needs to triggered if the enemy is killed while being struck by the beam, even if the killing blow comes from another player.

Entropy

On paper this rune should be fine but the lack of use suggest otherwise. Suggested improvement include increasing the size of the arc, increasing the damage and/or decreasing the AP cost.

Intensify

Again I don't know of any builds that suggest Intensify over other Disentegrate runes. The only thought that spings to mind is moar damage but more creative solutions appreciated.

Defensive Skills
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Along with the Conjuration Skills, the Defensive Skills are by far the most successfully designed skills. A few tweaks are needed to address lesser used runes but overall major changes are not required.

___Frost Nova___

A staple of many builds, Frost Nova needs little in the way of changes. To save space, only the one rune needing attention will be listed.

Frozen Mist

Of all the runes, only Frozen Mist is rarely (never?) suggested. The obvious suggestion would be to increase the damage done but it is unclear if that is enough to make it viable. Another possibility is increasing the radius of the area of effect.

___Diamond Skin___

A useful skill, even without the consideration of infinite duration due to Critical Mass. Given that interaction should be nerfed (sorry guys, but you know it is happening), a very small tweak to the spell is in order. The damage absorbed should scale in some small way with the wizard's power (meaning damage done). This would of course include Crystal Shell. Other than that, all of the runes are viable and well designed.

___Slow Time___

As with other Defensive Skills, Slow Time is well designed and needs only a few changes. Overall I would suggest the reduction of enemy attack speed be bumped up just a little. Only the runes requiring attention will be listed.

Miasma

Of all the runes, Miasma is one of two that I never see suggested even in less popular builds. The obvious change would be to increase the duration to something longer than 3 seconds but more creative solutions would be ideal. Suggestions?

Time Shell

The improvment in movement speed reduction isn't enough to make this rune attractive compared to the other runes. The change here is signficant but the name can remain the same. Time Shell now allows the warb bubble to move with the caster, ala the slow time effect under Archon.

___Teleport___

Ahh Teleport. The only skill I can think of that was nerfed into the ground because of the overpowered nature of the legacy skill from D2. In general teleport is fine but overall the wizard feels sluggish compared to the other classes. Some improvements are definitely in order. The first would be lowering the cooldown from the rather ridiculous 16 seconds. It was clear that the original D3 developers didn't want a wizard skipping content at will like a D2 sorc could. Hopefully the new development team will be more reasonable. Only the runes requiring adjustment are listed.

Wormhole

If the overall cooldown on Teleport is lowered, the usefulness of Wormhole is diminshed. A quick fix would be to increase the delay to greater than 1 second but that might be problematic.

Reveral

In theory I love this rune. In practice the problem is I've usually teleported because the ground I was standing on was being covered by some nasty elite effect and the last thing I want to do is go back to that spot. Open to suggestions here, but I really do like the concept.

Calamity

Again on paper this seems to promote interesting builds where a wizard teleports into monsters instead of away from them. But even CM wizards (who often do just that) don't pick this rune. My initial thought would be to have the Wave of Force also stun, but suggestion welcome here, too.

Force Skills
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Overall the Force Skills are a mixed bag. Some skill/rune choices are commonly used, others are never seen. Therefore a combination of buffs and nerfs is required to promote more interesting build choices.

___Wave of Force___

I'll be honest--I love Wave of Force. The concept, the graphical effect, everything. Unfortunately even that isn't enough for me to pick it in any build come endgame, though I try to use it when leveling just because. Overall the effects of the Force Affinity rune should be incorporated in the base skill. As it stands, Wave of Force has too long of a cooldown and costs too much to cast.

Impactful Wave

No change needed other than the reduction to cost and cooldown of the base skill.

Force Field

With Force Affinity gone, this rune can take its place. Force Field cast a normal Wave of Force and than surrounds the wizard with a personal shield that absorbs some damage (ala Diamond Skin) for a few seconds. This make Force Field an ultimate "oh sh!t" button.

Forceful Wave

In addition to the reduction in cooldown and cost, this rune needs to do more damage. If it is less defensive (less knockback) it needs to do a lot more damage to compete with any actual damage abilities.

Teleporting Wave

A cool thematic idea but yikes--why would I want to put monsters in random locations? (And how is this better or even equal to increasing the knockback distance and stunning them like Impactful Wave?) One bizarre suggestion is that it has a chance to teleport non-elite/bosses hit by the wave into non-existance. You don't get XP from killing them but they can't kill you. Other than that, open to suggestions but as it stands this rune needs major work / replacement.

Exploding Wave

Again a good concept. My fear is the secondary waves could knock mobs back into me but that is a minor concern. Hopefully with the reduction in cooldown and cost this is viable. Or pehaps the chance of a secondary waves and/or the damage they do needs to be increased.

___Energy Twister___

Energy Twister is a split personality skill in that one rune (Wicked Wind) is a staple in CM builds and all the other runes are hardly ever used, if at all. The fundamental problem is that targeting this skill (with the notable exception of Wicked Wind) is sufficently random and frustrating that no one uses it. In general then the path of the twisters needs to be more linear so that the player can at least try to target what monsters are hit.

Mistral Breeze

Not a bad rune but the cost reduction needs to be even lower to make it a candiate for consideration. Let Minstral Breeze builds cover the screen in twisters.

Gale Force

Hopefully with the more linear pathing this rune becomes more viable. Damage can always be tweaked upward if further modifications are necessary.

Raging Storm

For this rune to work, the pathing of the individual twisters would have to remain more random so that collisions are possible. But the merged tornado needs to last much longer and do more damage since it is basically impossible to target the spawn location. Even then I have my doubts anyone would pick this.

Wicked Wind

No change needed (and the pathing change to the base skill does not apply here) as Wicked Wind is already a go to skill for CM wizards. Depending on how CM is adjusted, a reduction in proc rate is warranted.

Storm Chaser

When the decription to a skill requires an abstract, you know there's an issue. Clearly the combination of the complicated mechanics coupled with the poor damage--the "giant Energy Twister" does less damage than a normal one--make this a rare build choice. If the effect is deemed interesting enough to keep then the damage per Wind Charge needs to be massively buffed.

___Hydra___

It is my suspicion that Hydra was designed in anticipation of PvP. Given that the spirit of Diablo is PvP considerations shouldn't effect skill design, I'm going to suggest massive changes in Hydra to make it cool again. Hydra was by far my favorite spell in D2 and the neutered version we got in D3 isn't cutting it. Furthermore the each-rune-is-an-element design works much better when elemental damage meant something.

The first major change is that a wizard can now have three active hydra instead of one. Damage of course would have to be adjusted downward to take this into account. The damage done (by all three hydra) should be enough to make it the major nuke of a wizard. I want the ability to design Hydra wizard builds, not have it relegated to being a support only skill. Having three "pets" out works for Zombie Dogs, it should work for Hydra especially with the requirement that wizards have to spend three casts to get three Hydra out and the Hydra are not permanent.

The second major change involved Hydra damage scaling. The current scaling mechanics are confusing. Hydra cast speed is not affected by the wizard's attack speed, but damage per bolt is increased to scale with attack speed. Hydra cannot crit however and don't take advantage of CHC or CHD. Um, why? Hydra should cast faster (and last less time) with increased attack speeed. Right now a Hydra fires 15 bolts in 15 seconds. Keep the max bolts fired at 15 and when that's done, the Hydra disappears. They should also be able to crit and take advantage of CHC and CHD so that they scale properly. Currently improper scaling makes them unused in endgame builds.

Arcane Hydra

The interaction between Arcane Hydra with Distruption and Temporal Flux is interesting enough to keep the change in element type. No further changes required.

Volatile Hydra

This rune replaces Venom Hydra (and is granted earlier, where Lightning Hydra use to be). Volatile Hydra leave a pool on the ground like Venom Hydra use to but this pool is a fire pool. This allows easier interactions with Conflagration.

Frost Hydra

This rune is now granted earlier, too, in the same spot at the old Venom Hydra. Given the ability to cast 3 of them, this rune should be a viable choice to blanketing the field in frost for the slowing effect and/or interactions with Cold Blooded.

Enduring Hydra

This rune is granted when Frost Hydra use to be. Enduring Hydra do fire based damage. At the end of its duration an Enduring Hydra doesn't disappear--it splits into two smaller hydra that are randomly positioned nearby. These spawned Hydra continue to cast for an additional set period of time.

Unbound Hydra

Unbound Hydra are smaller versions of normal hydra. They do less damage than their runed counterparts. But there can be up to a dozen unbound hydra active at any one time. Basically Unbound Hydra lets someone design a real Hydra wizard. They must pay the penalty of having to spend most of their casting time summoning hydra but Hydra becomes their main damage dealing spell.

___Meteor___

Even with tweaks to casting cost and impact delay you don't see many meteor wizard builds in inferno. A modiciation to the standard CM build replaces Explosive Blast with Meteor, generally Meteor Shower. But if we can assume CM wizards are getting, um, adjusted in RoS, then Meteor needs more attention to be viable.

Overall Meteor doesn't do enough damage to justify the AP cost and impact delay. Thematically it should remaing the huge, heavy hitter in a wizard's arsenal. Therefore damage should increase but it can remain expensive. Additionaly proc chance should increase. Meteor is one of those skills that really needs to proc APoC to be viable. The rune choices are actually decent and only those requiring changes are listed.

Star Pact

A further reduction in AP cost is warranted. If this is the "cheap to cast" version of meteor, then make it actually cheap enough so people pick it to design a build around.

Meteor Shower

I feel the damage is too low in relation to the other Meteor runes.

Liquefy

The requirement that the initial impact crits seems an uncessary burden. If Molten Impact can flat out increase the damage, then Liquefy can simply increase the molten fire duration.

___Blizzard___

The frustration that people have with Blizzard (the skill, not the company) is that it is designed as more of a support skill and not a skill you can design a build around. The main use of Blizzard is to trigger Cold Blooded so that Disentegrate does enough damage. While that was a creative combination of skills, it is rather disappointing that is the only real use.

The first main change suggested for Blizzard it to let it stack. Stacking Blizzard would still have a built in penalty--you can't chill something twice. But damage stacking would allow people to make Blizzard their main nuke and cast it as often as possible. Other classes, notable the Witch Doctor, have large AOE nukes you can spam. Blizzard would be no different and thus the concept is not unbalanced. (If the damage boost Blizzard received in a previous patch needs to be revisited and adjusted because of this then so be it.)

The second major change is to allow Blizzard to proc other effects. Currently its proc chance is bizarrely set at 0.01. Allowing it to have a non-negligible chance to proc APoC would support Blizzard spamming builds.

The exisitng rune choices for Blizzard are decent and only the ones needing comments are listed.

Grasping Chill

This is the one rune for Blizzard no one seems to take. This is because Blizzard already slows and after 6 seconds of Blizzard most things are dead or people simply cast another one. This rune is crying out for complete replacement but suggestions welcome.

Unrelenting Storm

On paper this seems useful but again in practice very few builds suggest using it. Maybe a slight increase in damage per time (in addition to the increased duration) would be enough to make it viable.

Conjuration Skills
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Conjuration Skills are one of the more successfully designed groups. A few of the runes are rarely used (and a few overused), however, and could use some adjustements.

___Ice Armor___

In general Ice Armor has a decent design. The problem is more that Energy Armor is too good in comparison. That said, a few of the runes are weaker than the rest.

Chilling Aura

This can be used to proc Cold Blooded for melee opponents. But only slowing the movement speed by 30% to mobs that are already close enough to hit you is pretty pointless. Either attack speed should be affected or the radius of the effect needs to be increased.

Crystallize

This seems to be a signficant boost to armor but again Energy Armor is generally chosen here. A slight buff to the armor bonus might help matters.

Frozen Storm

I don't understand this rune. The damage is flat out horrible for the AP cost so spamming it makes little sense. It was used way back when to break destructibles with GF/MF before that was nerfed. If the concept is to make an offensive damage rune for an armor, the damage greatly needs to increase and/or the AP cost deceased.

__Storm Armor___

Storm Armor is pretty good as it is. It serves its purpose well--being a choice for an offensive based armor. Dangerous to run in hardcore but that is as it should be. Only a couple of the runes require comments.

Thunder Storm

The minor increase in damage from 100% to 130% isn't near enough to encourage people to take this over other runes. I would suggest instead a signficant increase in the firing rate.

Scramble

A cool idea but I believe the movement speed cap still affects this, so if you have MS on items--which almost everyone does--this becomes a niche rune.

___Magic Weapon___

Boring name, great skill. Two of the runes are very common in many builds...the rest, not so much. The "magic" of course is that affects base weapon damage and is mulitplied by other skills.

Quicken

In comparison to the 10% base weapon damage boost, the 30% additional weapon damage (not base) granted by Electrify isn't very signficant. I don't know of any builds that suggested it over Force Weapon or Blood Magic. Therefore it is replaced by Quicken, which increases attack speed by a small amount, but enough to be interesting.

Conduit

You hear this mentioned occasionally but only have a chance to restore 1 AP per attack seems rather weak, especially considering one meteor costs 50AP and is considered 1 attack.

Empower

The old Venom rune was also weak and never used. In its place I suggest Empower. Empower treats a small percentage of Strength on items to be treated as Intelligence for the purposes of boosting wizard damage. The percentage would have to be small but would let items with a little Strength be useful to melee wizards.

___Familiar___

In practice one of the familiars is common (Sparkflint) and the rest are used only in gimick builds to not at all.

Vigoron

The fixed amount of life regen is the problem here. Once you boost life to high levels, 620 life per second just isn't enough to justify picking Vigoron over Sparkflint. If this regen amount could scale with health(and level), then it would be more interesting.

Ancient Guardian

This rune has even been buffed but I don't know of many builds that suggest using it. Adjustments to it that would make it help surviving elite attacks would help but I'm not exactly sure how to do that without making it OP. Suggestions?

Arcanot

Cool concept but again not sure this is widely used. Maybe a slight boost to the AP regen rate would be enough.

Cannoneer

I don't think the damage here is enough to justify the skill slot--especially compared to Sparkflint. It would have to be changed significantly to compete and scale properly.

___Energy Armor___

By far the most common armor used in hardcore. The problem is that the two primary wizard builds don't care about AP so running with 80 instead of 100 makes little difference to them. But try running a Disentegrate / Blizzard build with 80 AP... The trick would be making people want to consider other armors but at the same time making Energy Armor viable for builds not named Archon or CM. I'm not exactly sure how to accomplish this so hopefully people smarter than I can tell me how.

Absorption

This rune effect fits well with the Energy Armor theme but I think most people pick other runes. Maybe the chance is too low?

Force Armor

This rune went from the only choice in inferno to never used after it was nerfed. The problem is with good armor and resistances most attacks don't hit me for > 35% of my health so this rune never fires.

Prismatic Armor

Even after the resistance boost has been nerfed, this is this the go to armor for hardcore. I hate to suggest another nerf but I don't know how to change that. Saddling every hardcore build with 80 AP (and the effective loss of a skill slot) because they have no choice but to take Prismatic Armor is very very bad for build diversity.

Mastery Skills
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___Explosive Blast___

A heavily used spell but only because of the CM wizard build. That said it doesn't really require any tweaks. Chain Reaction is obviously the most popular but the other choices are decent. (And adjustments to proc rates could help balance that out further.)

___Mirror Image___

Mirror Image is fantastic in concept but only so-so in execution. While usedful, especially soloing, it just isn't useful enough to replace teleport, diamond skin, frost nova as a defensive skill...at least most of the time.

The main problem I have found is that the images don't attack and certainly don't distract monsters as well as they should. When I summon five duplicates and they mill around behind me while I am getting pounded by an elite, well, I soon change my spec back to something cookie cutter. The fact that it is the only spell to break out of frozen is not enough to save it. On top of that, some of the runes are poorly designed.

Simularcum

I've never had an issue with my images dying so boosting the health is not very attactive.

Mocking Demise

Mirror Image isn't cast to do damage and the damage done here is to small to be change that.

Extension of Will

The duration boost is nice but the increase in life from 25% to 29% is laughable.

Mirror Mimics

The minor damage couple with the fact that the images often stand around not casting makes this rune choice unappealing.

Overall Mirror Image needs a lot of work to be useful. I've skipped making suggestions in the hopes people can do so below.

___Archon___

Obviously one of the most used skills as the Archon wizards are one of the only two viable builds and are cheaper to equip than CM wizards. That said, you all know the nerf is coming. Blizzard has said they never wanted infinite Archon wizards (or infinite Wrath barbs). The idea is to make the Archon a fun "save me" button that makes you feel epic for a brief period of time, not kinda-sorta epic all the time.

So the big change I am suggesting is to have Archon also boost damage (in addition to armor and resistances) by 40% (or more, if necessary) but to remove the increase in duration for every enemy killed. Yeah, I know, that won't be a popular decision but inifinite Archon needs to stop if other builds are to be considered. And I say this as a PL 72 archon wizard. The damage boost needs to be significant so you feel absolutely epic for 15 seconds but then you have to rely on your normal build for a while before you can Archon again.

This massive change would suggest a few rune changes are necessary.

Teleport

Since you will only be in Archon form for 15 seconds, having a 10 second cooldown on teleport makes little sense. Change the cooldown to 1 second and this becomes the defensive Archon rune choice.

Slow time

Again with the capped 15 second duration, just have this rune permanently surround the Archon with the moving slow time bubble.

Passives
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Some of the passives are very useful, others not so much. They require less tweaking than the active skills but a few suggestions are made here. And of course there the looming problem with Critical Mass that has to be addressed.

Power Hungry

I actually think the usefulness of this passive is underappreciated. A simple boost would be an increase in pick-up radius, since a wizard taking this obviously wants to grab health globes, but with Paragon 2.0 letting you boost that anyway, I'm not sure that would be a good change. Additionally in group play it is hard to keep others from grabbing your health globes so maybe this should fire even if other people grab a globe.

Illusionist

On paper this is an excellent defensive passive. In practice I've died in HC before and had this not proc. Maybe if it triggerd on damage taken before armor / resistances (with a higher activation percentage) would make it more consistent and reliable.

Paralysis

The desciption says up to 8% but when I've experimented with it is seems like 0.08%--I rarely see Paralysis fire. Given all the lightning based signature spells, it would be nice to see this actually fire once and a while.

Galvanizing Ward

As with Vigoron, the life per second would be more attractive if it scaled with max health.

Critical Mass

I'm not going to be popular but the fix here is relatively straight forward. Instead of reducing cooldowns by 1 second, Critical Mass could reduce the remaining cooldowns on all spells by a fixed percent. That way it has the desired thematic effect--CM makes spells with a cooldown usable more often--but it is self limiting and doesn't let you infinitely casts spells that were never designed to be spammed.

This may seem harsh but as long as a CM wizard has infinite life (because of spammed Diamond Skin) and infinite crowd control (because of spammed Frost Nova) it is going to be very hard for any other build to compete.

Unstable Anomaly

This is more of a hardcore concern but I personally feel that all the life saving passives need to go. Their existance essentially makes it so hardcore characters only have two passive slots because you are forced to take Unstable Anomaly as your third passive. Sure it only fires once in a blue moon but when it does it can save you hundreds of hours of playtime so it is basically required. That's the opposite of promoting build diversity.

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Blizzard is definitely taking a second look at existing skills and build diverstiy. And they've shown in the past to be open to player ideas. This is our chance to get ideas out there that might spark some internal discussion at Blizzard.

Well if you made it to the end I'm really hopeful we can get a good discussion going. I'm sure not all of the above suggestion will be popular and people will have better ideas. So let's hear them.

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Aug 30, 2013

Zero(pS) posted a message on Rushing to "Complete" Paragon v1.0 - Is it Worth it For You?

Quote from itirnitii

I'm going to push for five P100s by the years end. If I get burned, I get burned, but I'm just glad that the new developments have sparked interest for me in the game again.

I'd be happy with 2 or 3 Paragon 75 by the end of the year

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Aug 26, 2013

shaggy posted a message on What Made D2's Itemization so good?

Most of this isn't helpful. The guy wants to know what is good about D2s loot (hell, he'll probably take examples from any ARPG, I'd guess) because he wants to use that knowledge to make his game better. Telling someone "everything was perfect with D2 loot" doesn't help because he's obviously not copying D2s loot 1-for-1. He needs specific feedback, not infographs made by some butthurt Blizztroll that aren't even factually correct.

Some things to think about when it comes to loot:

Player Power vs Monster Power
In D2 you could beat the game naked. This meant that the items were sorta like... icing on the cake. An imperfect item was still viable. This is why so many people say stuff like "lower level items were viable!" These items were viable because the game was less difficult. People clamored for higher difficulty in D3, they got it, and one of the side-effects is that it puts more emphasis on attaining items that are "great" instead of just "ok." Which is better? Can't say. I'm not personally a fan of being able to beat a game that's loot-centric without any loot, though.

Unkillable Players
Life Leech. My favorite topic ever. In D2 you could stack this til the cows came home (err no pun intended) and make a character that, in PvM, was exceptionally difficult to kill. Was this good design? I doubt it because it was one of the first things that the D3 team nixed. It was recognized that having characters that could basically stand in anything, and who basically had infinite life and mana with fairly low gear requirements was a bad idea. I'm not saying that D3 got this right, but I would definitely caution you about not throwing stats like Life Leech (or Mana Leech) around on lots of items or, at the very least, keep careful control on it so as not to dillute the game with that particular stat. Then again, you may want to avoid it completely and go in another direction which would also be interesting.

Skills
This is the one area that I think D2 completely outstripped D3, although we will see how Loot 2.0 addresses it. Most of the skill-specific affixes in D3 are completely inadequate and insufferable. They're almost always inferior to other offensive stats and for most builds it's not worth having them. STONE OF JORDAN (D3) is the one major example against this because of how the item is designed. However, the +all skills and +trees were pretty slick because of how they interacted with your other choices. I took exception with +individual skills that granted the ability to gain skills from other classes (Enigma), but in general there was a better interaction. A druid helm that had +Lycanthropy, for example, was great. Allowing everyone to Teleport was a dire mistake. The only downside of this was that +all skills became a pretty ubiquitous stat and was one of the main ways to increase your damage.

Weapons
This is a hot topic since the D3 team decided that weapon damage determines the damage of all your abilities whereas D2 weapons had no bearing on your damage. It is my feeling that it makes no sense for an all-powerful wizard to be running around using a weapon he found at level 4 because it's got better stats. No one complains that armor = defense and that higher level items have more armor. Yet somehow people complain about what amounts to a mechanic that ensures that some dinky level 4 newbie wand isn't the best item in the game. I don't get it, I never will. Is it a bit strange that a fireball from the sky takes your weapon damage into account? Sure. Does it provide better gameplay? Absolutely. As an adventurer why wouldn't your weapon be one of your most important items?

Charms
Never ask people to trade inventory space for power. It was a great idea in theory. In practice it was a massive annoyance. Items should be equipped. If they are to be carried around on your person then put them in some "bag" or "pouch" that is separate from the actual inventory. Do not use inventory space for this. It's infuriating.

That's all I have in terms of actual feedback on the subject, OP. I hope it helps give insight for your items in your game!

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Aug 25, 2013

Bleu42 posted a message on What Made D2's Itemization so good?

D2's itemization WASN'T good. You'll get people that argued for pvp you had to max certain stats or you were dead (like hit recovery) and for PVE (like FCR and lifesteal ect), but that didn't actually make D2's itemization 'good'.

The EXACT same problems plagued D3 as in D2; Only a handful of certain items were good, because they had all the right stats on them. Almost all builds of the same class used the same items, and the rest were left in the dust because of how bad they were.

BUT, the reason you're going to see people rage at me for even mentioning that D2's itemization was horrible, is because it gave the illusion that it was at least all right, because even though you had like I said before a handful of items that were by far the best, you *could* use almost any item you wanted and still be successful. That's not because of good itemization, that's because by the time you were level 85 or around there, you out-leveled the game by so much that you could roflstomp hell mode with relative ease using whatever combination of gear you wanted.

Because D3 has inferno mode, every monster out levels you and we don't have broken affixes like crushing blow, skills like sorc's static, the game is actually hard. Because of how hard D3 is (compared to D2), it forces people to actually try and stack both DPS increasing gear and EHP increases, which with the current state of gear makes it near impossible to FIND all the gear you need, thus, bad itemization.

Now I'm a die hard D2 fan, but at least I can sit back and look at exactly what was going on. *queue up people raging*

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Aug 25, 2013

shaggy posted a message on New Paragon discussion.

Quote from Hellfrog

the CDR passive of the monk was hardly used while it was at 10%; only after it was buffed to 20% ppl started using it more often

therefore i hope that they still re-evaluate those numbers

I don't think that's a fair point at all.

There's an obvious difference between a passive, or rune, and a paragon purchase. Paragon stuff is BONUS for just playing the game. It doesn't need to be amazing. It doesn't need to be competitive. In fact, it can't be TOO GOOD otherwise that just makes the average toon too good since everyone will, eventually, have access to most, if not all, of the meaningful purchases.

Runes and passives MUST be competitive against the other runes and passives. The paragon purchases don't have to compete against ANYTHING.

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Aug 21, 2013

shaggy posted a message on New Paragon discussion.

Quote from itirnitii

The first person that comes to mind in the "screwed" category, for me, is Moldran. So many hours on that one barb. Poor guy.

Give it a couple days. Then all the people who quit the game at pLvl 14 will start whininig that they're victims of this calculation.

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Jul 21, 2013

MrMonstrosity posted a message on Loot 2.0, discovering its true potential.

Rarity

If you ask any veteran Diablo player what their most memorable moment was from a past Diablo game, more often than not it will involve a story about the time when a certain rare item dropped for them. Whether that drop was a legendary (unique) item which was statistically next to impossible to find, a high rune needed to craft an amazing runeword, or even just a legendary item with perfect stats, the feeling was pretty much all the same (alright.. finding something like a Windforce, Zod rune, or Tyrael’s Might was a little different haha). Players could probably even go as far as recalling the time of day, act, zone, or monster that dropped that particular item, it was that memorable. How can we give this same nostalgia feeling back to the items in Diablo III?

Drop Rates

Drop rates have changed dramatically since release. I remember when the game was first launched I had almost leveled up two characters to max level before seeing my first legendary drop. I didn't really mind the low drop rates (even though the items were usually worse than rares), but it was a huge change compared to Diablo II where you couldn't finish the first Act on normal without seeing one drop. Where Diablo II had all items available in the hardest difficulty, Diablo III did things differently by splitting them up between four difficulties. This severely limited the amount of legendary items which could be found.

The good news is there is a change coming in loot 2.0 which which will make all legendary items available in every difficulty. I don't need to dive into all the details regarding this as many people are already aware of them, but what I want to talk about is the new possibilities this opens up. Possibilities in regards to drop rates. What I'd love to see now is the shift back to different drop rates inside each item type. I wouldn't mind the statistically impossible drops if it was offset by the fact that there were other, more common items available.

For example, let's take a look at legendary two-handed swords. Currently in patch 1.0.8 if we were to find a legendary two-handed sword in Inferno difficulty it would could only be one of 4 possibilities. With the new change that number will now increase to a possible 9, more than double the previous amount. We now have enough items in the same item type to afford to have substantially different drop rates.

(numbers are just for show)

The difficult part is balancing drop rates alongside the Auction House. In Diablo II the rarest item of them all, Tyrael's Might, had the highest chance to drop from the last boss in the game. Do you know what that drop rate was? A staggering 1:409,739 (0 Magic Find / 1 player game). Considering there was no Auction House available in Diablo II, even seeing one on another player was a feat of it's own. If Blizzard tried to make an item equivalent to that in Diablo III the drop rate would probably need to increase to something in the millions due to the Auction House.

Something could also be added to increase the excitement and also help people recognize the rarity of the item visually. Something as subtle as a different particle effect in the legendary's beam of light would go a long way to recognize when something truly special dropped. I don't know about you but if I saw an unidentified two-handed sword on the ground with a sparkling beam like The Grandfather's below I'd be jumping out of my seat in excitement.

How cool would that be, especially for new players or the less informed to know how rare their drop was without running to the Auction House to check the prices. What do you think the order in rarity is of the legendary helms below?

In one of the recent developer interviews Travis day is heard saying that he wants to create items that will be remembered. He even goes on to compare the impact of the items he hopes to create to that of World of Warcraft's Legendary sword, Thunderfury. I just pray that the reason he's using Thunderfury as an example isn't just for the sole reason it was powerful but also that not everyone had one and that it took not just a lot of hard work to get but even just plain luck. It wouldn't have had near as much impact if everyone on the server was running around with it, people knew of you and your guild if you were lucky enough to receive one, that's the reason it was remembered.

While I'm on this topic I'm going to also going to mention my own opinion in regards to the transmogrification system which might be making it's way into Diablo III. Don't include legendary items. The unique models are just as much of the reason as the unique properties as to why they can be labeled as a legendary. Do what you want with rares, but please leave legendary items out of it. If you absolutely think legendary items need to be included than at least connect the ability to do so with only the items your character has personally identified, at least that would help keep the integrity of the rarest items.

So please Blizzard, I beg, move away from the only thing rare about an item being the combination of random properties to the actual item itself.

Rewarding the Hunt

At the heart of the Diablo series lies the single most important aspect of the game, the hunt for items. It's the search for rare items which makes us stay up all hours of the night killing demon after demon, hoping for that one special drop.

Since the introduction of the Auction House the hunt for items has changed, instead of hunting for items in the game world we're now instead supposed to hunt for deals on the Auction House. Players are rewarded more for sitting outside the game than actually killing monsters. The Auction House isn't going away, so how can we give incentive to those that actually play the game?

Recognition for Discovery

This idea I haven't seen pop up anywhere and I've had stuck in my head since my days of playing Diablo II and I think has a lot of merit as a feature in terms of both game play longevity and progression. The idea first came to me doing Act 3 Mephisto runs one night playing Diablo II a long time ago. As cheesy as it might be I used to keep a pen and paper at my desk to write down what unique items I'd find during my play session, something that I could not only use to brag about to my younger brother but also something I could use to record my own collection of items (pen and paper achievements...lol).

The idea would be to connect a bonus, most likely in the form of small stat increases, to the discovery of items. It's such a simple idea and one I feel would change the game for the better. In the example below I used the achievement layout to showcase the idea.

Notice how I used the word "identify"? This would be such a simple way to ensure that people couldn't just buy every single item off the AH to reap all of the benefits, players would now rewarded for playing the game not the Auction House. The bonus wouldn't have to be huge, just a little something to be recognized for the effort (or luck) put in to obtaining items. Sure someone could buy or trade for unidentified items outside the AH but it would be much harder to do, especially if they adjusted the drop rates accordingly.

So maybe you're rocking a Maximus and you find a Warmonger, wouldn't it be cool if by just finding a weapon of the same type you just increased your two-handed sword damage by 1%. Better yet, if the bonuses were account wide similar to achievements, you could find something on your Barbarian that could potentially give a small boost to another class. I think this idea is great in terms of progressing your character as you play the game. As another added bonus for identifying an item, and if the transmogrification feature existed (which I hope it never does) would be to allow that item's model to be applied to another item of the same type.

This next addition is for all you lore junkies and collectors out there. With being a game designed completely around cool items why don't we know more about the history of them? There's an entire in-game journal which for the most part is completely ignored. Why not make a section for all the cool items we find?

I don't know about you but there's so many items like the Grandfather that I'd like to know more about. I'm sure the writers at Blizzard could throw us a bone, the Diablo story is rich with lore.

Magic Find

Ah, the stat everyone loves and hates at the same time. Just like it was in Diablo II, Magic Find is a very valuable stat. So much that people were actually switching to an entirely different gear set just to boost it as high as possible before landing the killing blow on elites and champions. Blizzard's fix, the addition of Paragon levels to slowly make the need for Magic Find on items obsolete as a player progressed to level 100. Sure this was a great bonus to have and fixed the need to swap gear but it also created an entirely new problem, punishment to play anything other than your character with the highest Paragon.

Something that struck me by surprise is a recent quote taken from the recent Blizzard Developer Interview with Diablofans:

Originally Posted by Travis Day (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

We've definitely talked about things like taking Paragon and decoupling it from your character specifically and making it something that is more account-over working. So that any time you invest in the game is rewarded and you don’t feel like we’re taking anything away from you if you want to try new characters or try out different play styles within the game.

I used to think the same way as Travis, I've always wanted to try out some other classes other than my barbarian but there was something always holding me back, something called Paragon levels. Was it the slight boost in primary stats stopping me from switching to a different character? Nope, it was the thought of all the loot I would be missing out on if I didn't have my valuable Magic Find which Paragon levels granted me. I would easily trade 300 of my primary stat to jump on a different character for a night, but when it came down to missing out on the potential for loot, nope not a chance.

I think it would be completely wrong of Blizzard to make Paragon levels account wide. Paragon is meant to provide players who've reached level 60 an extended progression system, don't shorten that to 1/5th of the time needed by requiring only one character to reach Paragon 100. Instead, bare with me on this one, why don't we remove Magic Find from items and Paragon levels. Wow, do you feel that? That's called freedom, the freedom to play any character you want now and not have to sacrifice loot.

So, if we no longer get our beloved Magic Find from either items nor Paragon levels where do we get it now? Well, what if we moved it all into Nephalem Valor and tried something like this:

Remove the NV cap size of 5
Cap Magic Find at 500% for every character
Award different values of Magic Find per stack of NV depending on the Monster Power
Earn NV at any level, not just at level 60
Lose a stack of NV for every death
De-emphasize the need for Magic Find in general

It might look something like this:

Simple changes right? But lets look at what issues we may have just solved:

Rewards players for playing at a higher Monster Power (reach MF cap faster)
Rewards players for staying in one game and playing through all acts
Lower level characters have the same chance at finding legendary items
No longer punished for playing low Paragon characters (No MF)
Stops high MP leachers (if they keep dying it's not worth it)
Might help somewhat to combat bots
Players shouldn't need to get to max MF to find good items, sure it should help but not as much as it does currently.

Overall I think this is the right direction for the game and should solve many of the problems we face right now in regards to Magic Find and the hunt for items. It's tough to think that such an iconic stat in the Diablo series has become more of a burden more than something fun, but that's where we're at. I'll leave you with a fun item I came up with to tie along with the changes to Nephalem Valor that I just proposed, enjoy.

(the new "Magic Find"?)

Crafting

Crafting has such huge potential to be one of the most interesting parts of Diablo III. Not only that but it might be the only way to fix the economy in it's current state. A little over a year into the game and we can already see the hyper inflation resulting from a game with no proper item or gold sinks. So, what can be done to crafting to get and keep a healthy economy?

Salvaging

Something absolutely needs to be done to make salvaging items more desirable. Yeah there's Brimstones, but I'm not sure why Blizzard decided to make them have a 100% chance of being salvaged from legendary items. I guess It probably made sense back when legendary items were actually hard to find at release, but when they increased the drop rates they should have also removed the 100% salvage chance.

I've already suggested this idea before regarding new types of Brimestone's but I'd like to mention it again. The idea is that by salvaging legendary items they'd have a small chance to produce a type of Brimstone depending on the elemental type of the item that's being salvaged. Maybe even tie in the rarity of the legendary item being salvaged to the chance of producing one.

Make these also be part of crafting recipes for all of the artisans. Obviously crafting recipes as a whole need help before this could even be implemented but I'm sure we'll see that happen along with loot 2.0. It would definitely increase the amount of legendary items being removed from the economy.

Legendary Crafting Materials

In Diablo II we had Runes which were the primary crafting reagent. Runes ranged from the very commonly found to the near impossible to find. Blizzard really needs to introduce similar crafting reagents in loot 2.0. They obviously can't be called runes, as those already exist in the form of Skill Runes, but they need to exist in some other form. They need to be something that we can find out in the game world by killing things and more importantly be highly valued in the crafting system.

I think I've found the perfect place for them to drop.

You may recall coming across monsters with purple name plates and unique names during your play sessions. What are they you ask? Your answer is as good as mine, the only thing they're linked to right now is an achievement. Sure some of them are obviously in the game for a laugh, Jay Wilson comes to mind, but for the most part they just exist for no reason at all. Why don't we give them a reason to exist? Blizzard could toss those rare crafting materials on their loot table with a very tiny drop rare and put them to good use. Beef them up a bit in terms of health and damage similar to Keywardens and they'd be perfect. Give them a little bit more randomness in their spawn locations so they can't be easily farmed and you'd have a very nice feature.

There's 82 named unique monsters as part of the acheivement "A Unique Collection", giving them all a chance to drop a unique crafting reagent would be an amazing way to spice up crafting. Throw on a Bind to Account similar to Demonic Essence and you'd really have people out in the world playing the game like it was meant to be played.

If you're anything like me your stash and bags are already really full of items that you couldn't possibly fathom the idea of more crafting materials. This next idea is to help all of us hoarders get a little breathing room.

This would be so welcome, having separate inventories for weapons and armor, crafting materials, gems, and the upcoming mystic artisan. Make picking up items automatically place them in the right inventory and you would have probably one of the most welcome features to many people alike.

While we're at it let's go ahead and clean up something I wish was never implemented in the first place... 15 gem versions. Blizzard should reduce the number of types found in the first 3 difficulties to one each, there's not really any point in having more.

Removing these steps in gem progression could be countered by just decreasing the drop rates accordingly. While we're talking about gem drop rates I don't see why we can't just have all gem grades be drop-able, but with increasingly low drop rates. At least that would give self-found players a chance at getting to the higher versions. It's not like upgrading gems is good gold sink anyways, we can definitely find a better one.

The Mystic

Everybody knows she's coming in the expansion but just how she'll work is still a mystery. The mystic might have features like crafting elixirs or potions, but she'll most definitely be involved in some type of item upgrading or enhancement feature. I tried my best to come up with a solution that not only works in terms of item progression, but also something to become the main item and gold sink for the game.

It was very hard trying to come up with an idea on just how her features should work. You obviously want to avoid making it so players only have to find one item and then just keep upgrading it until it's the best item in the game. That's why I didn't include a way to reroll item properties in my version of the mystic. I think by not allowing the re-roll of item properties it should at least still give reason for players to seek out upgrades. Instead my version focuses on only upgrading the originally rolled stats on an item. These stats could be upgraded to it's max potential value, but only for an increasingly amount of gold as it gets near max value. Take a look at the example below to see how upgrading this helm's Critical Hit Chance would work.

If you noticed above by placing the item you wish to upgrade in the mystic's menu you are shown the max value of the properties which already exist on the item. By clicking on each property you'd be presented with the required materials and cost to upgrade the stat. The idea is for different stats to be upgraded using different crafted materials, materials being a combination of both Bind on Account and tradable materials. This would ensure someone couldn't just buy all the crafting materials off the AH and upgrade to a perfect item, they'd be forced to play the game in order to collect the BOA items similar to Demonic Essence.

The next thing you may have noticed is the cost associated with upgrading the Critical Hit Chance on the helm by .5%. The number is meant to be big, this cost will be the main gold sink in the game and most likely a cost most min/maxers would be willing to pay to upgrade an item. The most interesting concept however is one that you can't see in the picture above. The concept being as you gradually upgrade your stats on an item the monetary costs associated with the upgrades also increases.

In the example above you can see how the closer the value moves to it's maximum potential, the higher the cost associated with the upgrade. This in some way mimics how the current gem progression system works that we all use Diablo III.

Legendary Items

This is the biggie and one of the additions I'm most excited for from loot 2.0. The developers, more specifically Travis Day, have already stated that they want to make game changing legendary items. Game changing in terms of the way items interact with skills, passives, and gearing choices.There probably will be a couple different types of items that will make up the this whole concept, lets explore some.

Class specific legendary items and set bonuses have the most potential when it comes to items that change the way skills and passives work. Really, it's the only option since putting skill changing properties on an item type available to all classes would be pointless seeing how skills are unique to each class.

In the expansion I can't see any classes getting any additional Skill Runes. What I could see though is a new empty rune slot being added.

What rune belongs to this slot you may ask? Well the answer is, it depends on the items you're using!

When I was originally trying to determine just how adding new Skill Rune effects on items should work I didn't have the empty rune slot. The problematic scenario I kept running into was, what if someone didn't want to use the new Rune Skill being offered by the item? Would they have to just shun that item out of their possible gear choices and find something else? That's where the idea of an empty Skill Rune slot came from, now when equipping an item with a new rune variation they wouldn't be forced to use it anymore, they'd have the choice of turning it off/on just like any other Skill Rune.

The beauty of a system like this is that it offers a huge depth in game play compared to the current system. Currently in the game once you hit level 60 you're done discovering your skills. With a system like this even at level 60 you could keep discovering new builds depending on what items you've found. Remember the idea of super rare items I talked about above? Imagine playing the game for a year and finally getting your hands on one of those super rare items with a sweet new Rune Skill, your entire play style or build could change to something completely different. It would make the game feel so fresh, people wouldn't be able to just run to the forums, look up the best build, and be done with swapping skills forever. Instead new builds would constantly be discovered that not everyone would have access to right away. This idea could even go further, what if a new build needed not only 1 but even 2 or 3 new Rune Skills only available on items. Combining gear to make new builds, who'd have thought? If Blizzard added even one new item to the game at a later point it could have the potential to create entirely new builds.

The next type of item I'll touch on is the also made to be for class specific items.

These could directly add new bonuses to passive skills or skills themselves. In the example above I gave a direct bonus to the Barbarian passive skill, Brawler. That seems pretty simple on it's own but what I hope you all noticed is the twist at the end which reads "within Pickup Radius". Hmm did I just make a once useless stat potentially sought after by the Barbarian class?

What I hope you all take away from this example is that we don't need to be so focused on making every single affix as good as one another. Lets make items do the work in making this happen. Imagine if there was a shield that changed the way Thorns damage worked and allowed stacking it to be viable, or a mace that made stacking as much armor as possible increase the damage of one of your skills. The possibilities are endless here and I really hope these are the type of ideas Travis Day is working on.

The next, and final type of legendary item that we could see wouldn't really have anything to do with Runes or skills at all. Instead these items would focus on providing unique new ways to play and gear your character. Imagine if you found the Girdle of Giants below.

Pretty cool eh? Some might think it doesn't change much because of the reduced damage, and really it might not do much in terms of directly increasing your overall damage. It might not even look like it would be better than today's Witching Hour which has amazing damage stats. It instead does something else, it opens up how many choices the Barbarian has in possible weapon choices. This one item added hundreds of different combinations of weapons. Maybe some of these combinations have the potential to create a new build, the possibilities could be endless. This is just the result of one new belt, imagine if other similar type items existed.

[saving this area for showcasing my legendary item thoughts]

In Conclusion

If you made it this far in my crazy long post I salute you and thank you very much for taking the time to look over my ideas. As you can see I'm very passionate when it comes to Diablo in general, especially when it comes to the hunt for items. I think by working together, the Diablo community and Blizzard, we'll finally get to the point where we can call Diablo III the greatest ARPG every created.

Thank you.

If you haven't checked out my other posts please feel free to look them over and let me know what you think.

http://www.diablofan...review-a-dream/ (old ideas, but still an interesting read)

http://www.diablofan...-dream-fanmade/ (pretty cool idea for a variation of the classic ladder system)

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Originally Posted by Travis Day (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

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