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It could be tyraels sword.

I believe the "Sword of Justice" comic series touches on that topic and that someone named Jacob has it. It would also be odd if Tyrael had his sword back at the start of Diablo 3 when the comic (which I believe is considered canonical) says otherwise.

*Shrugs*

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what is better for MFing?

i guess this depends on the killing speed mostly.
So how much stronger do monsters get when there are 4 people in one game?

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Yea- lots of good discussion in this thread.

It'll be interesting to see what will be viable as far as skill types: what I mean by this is some people have 4 damaging attacks while others have 2 or 3 and use the rest as defense/utility.

For example: the previous post uses an armor spell, the pet familiar and the magic weapon along with magic missile, wave of force and disintegrate/meteor(depending on which one you look at).

Where as my build is looking toward 4 damaging skills(Electrocute, Disintegrate, Explos Blast and Arc Orb) with 2 defensive/utility (D Skin and Tele).
http://us.battle.net...hcXQ!YXU!abZcaZ

What are yall's thought on this? Number of damaging attacks vs. Number of def/utility skills

I guess it comes down to personal preferencies. You must have both damaging and defensive skills obviously. In my opinion, if you kill faster, you need less defensive skills but that's just my playstyle. I guess one can like to play more defensively and take 4 defensive skills.

As for your second build Rozby, I guess you'll struggle with AP for your Comet. You should consider the Prodigy passive and Attunement rune on Magic Missile. Even Seeker rune may be nice. Cold blood may be a better choice than Glass Canon as it increases the damage of your Comet by 20% whithout downside.

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The camera distance is too low. Besides that, four players will be fine. Was there potential for something more? Yeah probably, but oh well.

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Spray of teeth seems rather mediocre if you ask me. Hungering Arrow is an amazing single target generator, so Idk why you would try to turn it into a mediocre aoe.

2 generators in one build seems redundant as well.

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I'm located in Perth and I've just received a Beta invite. Is Oceanic clumped in with SEA servers?

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Hey folks, I found this cool trick where you can change your text and add built-in icons to your text in the D3 beta. Here's how:
For different colors, you can do standard colors such as

{c_red}This is my red text{/c}
{c_blue}This is my blue text{/c}
{c_green}This is my green text{/c}

You can also use hex:

{c:FF000000}This is my black text{/c}
{c:FFFF8C00}This is my orange text{/c}



You can also use the colors of the item types and other text:
{c_magic}text{/c_magic}
{c_inferior}text{/c_inferior}
{c_rare}text{/c_rare} {c_epic}text{/c_epic} {c_legendary}text{/c_legendary}{c_questlog}text{/c_questlog}{c_whisper}text{/c_whisper}{c_bonus}text{/c_bonus}

There are also some icons you can display:

{icon:lmb}
{icon:rmb}
{icon:bullet}
{icon:audio}
{icon:platinum}
{icon:gold}

http://d3guyz.com/?q=node/1415

Additionally, you can chat with a different or smaller font size:

{f_alpha_tiny}This is smaller text{/f_alpha_tiny}

Have a try! It’s full of fun!

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I figure with my build, i'll be spamming more entangling before the cluster, I do like how you've gone life leech with the elemental, so maybe I'll change from bat to boar companion and go your route.

Not sure why everyone is going wolf companion, I understand it does double the damage of most other companions, but it could disappear at really inopportune times. I guess you'd probably be a bit more of a micro'er than me

Ya that makes sense, entangling is great. Ya life leech is actually what ended up appealing to me a lot about that skill, it took care of the necessary defensive role of life gain that I hadn't filled well enough.

For me I went with the wolf because for my build I won't be using vault too often, mostly only when necessary or sometimes to move around (out of combat - backtracking to stairs, that sort of thing,) hence the decreased cost on successive vaults. So ideally I will try to always have enough discipline to cast wolves if they ever run out while I'm in a tight spot. I'd like to be below 10 disc in combat situations as rarely as possible. We'll have to see how this plays out, I've definitely considered other pet types, or perhaps even the sentry, for that we'll really have to see how it plays out.

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The change to multishot actually made me not want to play this class anymore, I was looking forward to multishot as my main aoe attack, but now its not really spammable, and in my opinion she doesn't have any good spammable AoE spells, or they have special mechanics for their AoE - such as Bola shot or Chakram.. and I'm not particularly interested in dealing with special mechanics on AoE skills (*cough* blessed hammer *cough*) so yea, guess I'll be trying out a new class at the start. =(

http://us.battle.net...cldT!beT!aYacbc

That was my planned build, there's just nothing that really takes the place of multshot. =\ I'm open to suggestions though.

Edit: I guess you didn't list the unofficial changes, the specific change I'm refering to is:

Multishot: Now costs 40 Hatred, up from 15 an deals 165% weapon damage, up from 115%

Altered your build to make it more viable since changes, you should still consider DH


http://us.battle.net...clXT!YeT!cbccbZ

Another strong AoE is Elemental Arrow, it's cheap enough to be fairly spammable. It doesn't really have a special mechanic, apart from shooting in a straight line through enemies rather than spreading out straight away. Also it can be runed to have a variety of effects.

Ya elemental arrow is more along the lines of what I was thinking about. Cluster arrow is even less spammable than multishot. I need something on my right click that I can use often, more often than entangling shot if I can pull it off. Multishot might still be viable with the hatred cost reduction, but I don't know.

Elemental arrow does seem like an interesting replacement, it was fun to use when it was in the beta, and could directly replace multishot.

http://us.battle.net...cldT!beT!acacbc

That is an interesting build, I wonder what the damage type of nether tentacles is. If it is still fire I'll have to change the rune skill for rapid fire to have two different damage types, but that's ok with me. Things are looking up.

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The change to multishot actually made me not want to play this class anymore, I was looking forward to multishot as my main aoe attack, but now its not really spammable, and in my opinion she doesn't have any good spammable AoE spells, or they have special mechanics for their AoE - such as Bola shot or Chakram.. and I'm not particularly interested in dealing with special mechanics on AoE skills (*cough* blessed hammer *cough*) so yea, guess I'll be trying out a new class at the start. =(

http://us.battle.net...cldT!beT!aYacbc

That was my planned build, there's just nothing that really takes the place of multshot. =\ I'm open to suggestions though.

Edit: I guess you didn't list the unofficial changes, the specific change I'm refering to is:

Multishot: Now costs 40 Hatred, up from 15 an deals 165% weapon damage, up from 115%

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Seems like a build that involves a shield. The reason Barbarians have so many knockback / stun / movement abilities is that they're not supposed to be constantly taking damage unless they're spec'd for it. If you're planning on getting hit a lot, I guess you could go with something more like this: http://us.battle.net...gijk!cVg!acbaZc

Maybe throw Inspiring Presence in there somewhere.

I'm thinking something more along the lines of this http://us.battle.net...Vgik!cZg!accbac since the newest patch, as you're going to need life leech, and Tough as nails got the nerfbat (I'm sure it's still good, but maybe not great)