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Mmm, now that I read this it does sound ambiguous...BUT this is how I understand it (maybe the way I want to read it):
It doesn't matter how you want to read a mistranslated source. Trust me, I can read Korean, and relatively well. It simply does not say or imply anything about release date at all. It does not even imply that beta test for Korean region is being delayed until they get a rating, but that does not have to do with the release date I believe, since it is just sort of a fan service for Korean fans, and the actual testing is already being done in other regions for months now. (Blizz first said they do not have any plans for Korean beta and they don't think they will need to, then after some rage, they changed their plans.)
Also it is not about dispelling rumors. What it says is 'we will give you an update on the hot topics on the forums'. And there's nothing like a word 'issue' in that article. Please, oh please, that article is mistranslated beyond hope, please do not try to get any information about what google translator tells you.
Quote from JaundiceBunny
They RE-submitted D3 on the 22de...without the "cash-out" option.
They first submitted their "material" (with RMAH) either on the 1 or 2 Dec...cause this article was written on the 18th and in the article it states that the GBR has asked for more material after 16 days of deliberations (media gets hold of it after it actually happened). Also the initial hearing was suppose to take place on the 21ste, but GBR requested for more material after 16 days.
And I don't think Blizz's big worry is the rating of D3, since the rating will be done before the RMAH situation. Thus having to have re-submitted, Blizz saying "they will not give us a rating [RMAH], and it's a problem" = sense, since their first submission wasn't good enough therefore "delayed" even further.
You are right about the date they first submitted the game, my bad
But it was still posted right after they submitted the game, and before GBR delayed the rating. It does not say anything about getting a rating being an 'issue'.(yet, anyways.) From what I heard they were pretty sure it will get a rating without to much trouble, but that might just be a rumor.
And also, RMAH is part of the rating. Rating does not happen until they GRB thinks RMAH is okay. Legally, RMAH does not have any problem in Korea, so I really do not know what GRB is thinking.
I understand why people are coming up with all the theory around Korean GRB being a factor in the delay, and I do not intend to insist it is right or wrong, but you are just taking information from wrong sources. Please disregard any sources in foreign language, unless you have a trusty translator by your side.(Am I trusty? well, I guess not because I just popped up in this forum like yesterday, but I will claim I am not lying or misunderstanding it anyway.
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They'll affect foreign websites by getting ISPs to block traffic to them and getting payment processing companies to stop payments to them. I'm not sure how effective SOPA will be in actually shutting down offending sites, as they'll need help from other countries. That could prove to be difficult.
That's what many want you to think, so there's a lot of misinformation out there. Granted, it's still not something I want to see passed, but I dislike the blatant lying as well. People need to find this stuff out on their own, as opposed to simply believing whatever they read. See my post above for direct quotes to the bill.
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Unnecessary ad hominem attacks. If you are going to disagree, at least provide something to back up your claims. Why do you guys feel the need to insult someone that doesnt agree with you?
Here's my proof
Section 102
(a) Definition- For purposes of this section, a foreign Internet site or portion thereof is a `foreign infringing site' if--
(1) the Internet site or portion thereof is a U.S.-directed site and is used by users in the United States;
(2) the owner or operator of such Internet site is committing or facilitating the commission of criminal violations punishable under section 2318, 2319, 2319A, 2319B, or 2320, or chapter 90, of title 18, United States Code; and
(3) the Internet site would, by reason of acts described in paragraph (1), be subject to seizure in the United States in an action brought by the Attorney General if such site were a domestic Internet site.
What does SOPA consider a foreign site?
(6) FOREIGN DOMAIN NAME- The term `foreign domain name' means a domain name that is not a domestic domain name.
(7) FOREIGN INTERNET PROTOCOL ADDRESS- The term `foreign Internet Protocol address' means an Internet Protocol address that is not a domestic Internet protocol address.
(8) FOREIGN INTERNET SITE- The term `foreign Internet site' means an Internet site that is not a domestic Internet site.
So Foreign simply means that it isn't domestic...
Then what is considered domestic?
(3) DOMESTIC DOMAIN NAME- The term `domestic domain name' means a domain name that is registered or assigned by a domain name registrar, domain name registry, or other domain name registration authority, that is located within a judicial district of the United States.
(4) DOMESTIC INTERNET PROTOCOL ADDRESS- The term `domestic Internet Protocol address' means an Internet Protocol address for which the corresponding Internet Protocol allocation entity is located within a judicial district of the United States.
So a domestic domain, ip, etc are all specifically items located within a judicial district of the US...that includes ALL sites hosted within the US as well as all .com, .net, and .org domains. Those domains are governed by the US.
Section 103 doesn't specifically say foreign like 102 does, however there is an amendment to include the word foreign throughout the bill. It's nothing more than a clarification, as opposed to changing the intent.
As I said, the text is very clear that it will only affect foreign-based US-directed websites. It takes a whole 5 minutes of reading the bill to figure that out.
The bill
http://thomas.loc.go...?c112:H.R.3261:
Some proposed amendments http://en.wikipedia....tes_on_the_bill
One of the best reads I've found on it, but amendments have been made since so it's not quite up to date.
http://www.theverge....sopa-what-is-it
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They never said anything of the sort.
D3 passing SK is nice, but really it doesn't affect us or the game. It's been little more than a sideshow that many made it out to be more than it is. But it has been an amusing nonetheless.
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US doesn't have "stricter" policies. There are certainly bots around, but the game is far from overrun. You are simply making things sound worse than they really are to try and push your point. I've done bg after bg in both the US and EU servers (friends overseas) and a bot will pop up, but it's not common.
As far as the topic is concerned...considering they are in court with some of the largest current botting companies, I'd say they definitely want them gone.
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Yeah, exactly. I take this with the same grain of salt I took the German site's claims.
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Please stop posting the same thing in every thread.
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Irony at its best, folks.
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He didn't say anything of the sort. He said some parts of the game were at that point (or perhaps even past) and others aren't. Given the changes they are still making, I'm not surprised.
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Yeah, you'll have to do a little better than that. Find it in the blue tracker and give us a link.
There have, however, been several posts specifically saying the rmah did not cause the delay
Official Blizzard Quote:
//us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/3710773312?page=19#362">http://us.battle.net...312?page=19#362" class="blizzsource">No, as explained here: http://us.battle.net...312?page=19#362
http://us.battle.net...704?page=10#191
So that's the first blatant response from Blizzard. The link goes into more detail and explains that there is no one thing causing the delay, nor is there anything outside of the game causing the delay.
I don't know what translation you're reading but no where has it been stated the release of the game on a whole is delayed because of a GRB rating. Might it delay the game in Korea? I suppose no one knows, but we still have some time since the game is not finished. We're playing internal builds, the entire game, we'd know if it was. I'd know.
This was later deleted, but can be seen at the bottom here
http://www.diablofan...h-review-again/
Bashiok is quite clear again that the Korean RMAH did not cause the delay.
Then you have an Italian post back on Dec 12 http://eu.battle.net...44251?page=5#83
Translated:
Although a launch of the game at the global level is always our preference, i would like to point out that it has not always been possible to release the game at the same time throughout the world and that this has not stopped the release of the game. Suffice it to think of what happened in China with the expansions of WoW, for example. Each region has always unique problems, especially when it comes to business model (Brazil and Russia for StarCraft II) or legislative items (China and South Korea).
While Zhydaris isn't as blatant as Bashiok, Z clearly reiterates the theme.
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