I heard a runor, that the next dark knight movie will be with the riddler as the bad guy and that Johnny Depp is going to play him. Anyone have any info on this?
huh?? this movie sucked soooooo bad...I almost fell asleep
it was WAY too long, it had no plot!!! no plot at all...not even a climax, it was just a whole bunch of scenes/series put together, felt more like "batman the series back to back", and they rushed it after the 1st half of the movie, the characters had no development and didn't connect, they guy playing the batman can't act for crap, the whole deep voice thing was just stupid and annoying, and when the batman fought, he looked like a midget with tiny arms trying to use karate moves.
The movie should've been called "the joker", he did an OK performance and appeared more than the batman himself. the joker didn't impress me much, people are just flipping over him all because he died, Jack did much better. There was too much pointless talking that didn't even add anything to the movie, and why did batman want to stop being a hero? Did he forget why he became the batman in the 1st place? the movie had a few good parts, like the batmobile turning into a motorcycle, the joker doing his "magic trick" and when they showed two-face's face for the 1st time. Movies are supposed to make you want to keep watching and have a plot and at least a climax, not just random action and pasted together scenes, it was like they started a whole different movie every 20 mins...the first 6 mins were def the best in the whole movie, then after that it starts to drag it out
By far not the best movie I've ever seen, not even a "good" movie....it's just too overhyped
huh?? this movie sucked soooooo bad...I almost fell asleep
it was WAY too long, it had no plot!!! no plot at all...not even a climax, it was just a whole bunch of scenes/series put together, felt more like "batman the series back to back", and they rushed it after the 1st half of the movie, the characters had no development and didn't connect, they guy playing the batman can't act for crap, the whole deep voice thing was just stupid and annoying, and when the batman fought, he looked like a midget with tiny arms trying to use karate moves.
The movie should've been called "the joker", he did an OK performance and appeared more than the batman himself. the joker didn't impress me much, people are just flipping over him all because he died, Jack did much better. There was too much pointless talking that didn't even add anything to the movie, and why did batman want to stop being a hero? Did he forget why he became the batman in the 1st place? the movie had a few good parts, like the batmobile turning into a motorcycle, the joker doing his "magic trick" and when they showed two-face's face for the 1st time. Movies are supposed to make you want to keep watching and have a plot and at least a climax, not just random action and pasted together scenes, it was like they started a whole different movie every 20 mins...the first 6 mins were def the best in the whole movie, then after that it starts to drag it out
By far not the best movie I've ever seen, not even a "good" movie....it's just too overhyped
The only thing I can agree with is the Batman voice. GRR! I AM BATMAN! RAWR!
huh?? this movie sucked soooooo bad...I almost fell asleep
I suspect you have radically different tastes in movies than I do. However, I think I'll try to respond to some of your criticisms anyway.
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it was WAY too long, it had no plot!!! no plot at all..
The movie had a very reasonable thesis. That is, if Batman can be a vigilante and break the law, does this not set a dangerous precedent for others who wish to do the same? And are they any less justified for going above the law to enforce their ideals.
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not even a climax
The final confrontation with Two Face, I'll admit I wasn't too impressed with this climax. But that's because I didn't fully believe his motivation in the end to want to go after Gordon and his family as opposed to the actual guy who killed Rachel. That guy being the Joker. But the climax between Batman and the Joker I was very satisfied with. There was almost a catharsis between the two in their final moments together. As the Joker is hanging upside down, confessing his perceived affinity with Batman, it feels really honest and sincere. Batman doesn't quite reciprocate those feelings, but he is at least so relieved for the moment that he seems to be having his own moment of clarity. These are the kinds of scenes I enjoy more in movies as opposed to just yet another brainless action scene with lots of explosions and romantic interests that are in need of saving from ledges of tall buildings (Batman actually does save Rachel from a tall building, but at least that wasn't part of the climax ^_^).
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it was just a whole bunch of scenes/series put together,
Yeah, movies usually are a bunch of scenes put together. If you felt it was all too fragmented and didn't flow logically, one place in the movie I'd have to agree with you is right after Batman saves Rachel from falling, it just goes on to the next scene. All the while the Joker is still up there in Bruce's penthouse suite. I was wondering just what happened. Did the Joker just leave eventually? Did he kill everyone? What?
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felt more like "batman the series back to back", and they rushed it after the 1st half of the movie, the characters had no development and didn't connect, they guy playing the batman can't act for crap, the whole deep voice thing was just stupid and annoying, and when the batman fought, he looked like a midget with tiny arms trying to use karate moves.
I'm not quite sure how you complain at the same time about a movie being too long and also being rushed. Except for just a few scenes, I really liked the pacing of the film. The characters had way more development than your typical comic book movie, and I personally think Christian Bale is a great actor. He gave a slightly better performance in Batman Begins, but establishing Bruce Wayne/Batman's psyche was more critical in that film than in the second. And I think we're actually all in agreement about Bale's mumbly, rumbly voice when he's in his Batman costume. That might have been a combination of the actor's and director's fault though. I still think his worst time doing it was in Batman Begins. "Swear to me!!" LOL
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The movie should've been called "the joker", he did an OK performance and appeared more than the batman himself. the joker didn't impress me much,
If he didn't impress you much, then why do you feel the movie should've been called The Joker? Aside from him being in the movie more than Batman himself (which I'm not even sure is really true). Why can't a villain be just a pivotal to the story as the hero? In fact, shouldn't he be? Otherwise, where is the motivation for the hero. And without the villain's appearances with all his actions and feelings, how are we supposed to believe in him? If you want some generic movie villain with hardly any motivation or depth and less screen time, watch Iron Man or the Spider Man movies or something.
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people are just flipping over him all because he died,
I'll admit that Ledger's death added to the hype of the movie. But will you entirely overlook his performance just based on that misguided hype?
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Jack did much better.
I'd rather not say Nicholson's or Ledger's portayals of the Joker was better than the other. Tim Burton's Batman films are dramatically different than Nolan's. I would say though that I found Ledger's performance to be more intense. And I felt like he could actually do harm, that there was a real threat. Had Nicholson given a performance more akin to the one he did in The Shining, I might say for sure that Nicholson's portrayal was better. But Burton didn't feel like taking those kinds of risks with Batman.
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There was too much pointless talking that didn't even add anything to the movie, and why did batman want to stop being a hero?
Oh, boo hoo! Why does everyone have to talk? Why can't there be more car chases and explosions? It's already been five minutes...where the hell are the special effects? And did you really not understand why Batman didn't want to be a hero anymore? Why can't even a guy like him eventually get weary of what he does. Why can't he feel guilty at times for his vigilantism and question the morality of his actions to the point of doubting himself? I'm sorry, is this getting too deep for you. Here ya go: Kaboom! Kapow! Fuxored to the extreme!
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Movies are supposed to make you want to keep watching and have a plot and at least a climax, not just random action and pasted together scenes, it was like they started a whole different movie every 20 mins...the first 6 mins were def the best in the whole movie, then after that it starts to drag it out
I think most people who did see the movie did want to keep watching and were interested in the film. Which is ironic since most people have bad tastes in movies anyway. My opinion, obviously. But I think Dark Knight was one of the best comic book movies I've ever seen. I hardly even thought of it as a comic book movie. It had a very broad appeal without dumbing things down, yet also not pandering too much to the hardcore Batman fans. Nine thumps up.
huh?? this movie sucked soooooo bad...I almost fell asleep
it was WAY too long, it had no plot!!! no plot at all...not even a climax, it was just a whole bunch of scenes/series put together, felt more like "batman the series back to back", and they rushed it after the 1st half of the movie, the characters had no development and didn't connect, they guy playing the batman can't act for crap, the whole deep voice thing was just stupid and annoying, and when the batman fought, he looked like a midget with tiny arms trying to use karate moves.
Wow. I don't even know where to begin with this comment. No plot? Since when is going against the system to prove a point not a plot? Sure it's been done before, but not nearly as elaborately as in The Dark Knight. No character developement? That's weird, since that's pretty much what they focused on throughout the whole thing. The deep voice thing is to disguise his voice, because unlike ALL the other Batman movie, Batman finally actually cares whether or not people know he's batman. And as for Batman looking like a midget...well, that comment is obviously not really based on anything, unless you watched it on a screen with really, really weird resolution.
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The movie should've been called "the joker", he did an OK performance and appeared more than the batman himself. the joker didn't impress me much, people are just flipping over him all because he died, Jack did much better. There was too much pointless talking that didn't even add anything to the movie, and why did batman want to stop being a hero? Did he forget why he became the batman in the 1st place? the movie had a few good parts, like the batmobile turning into a motorcycle, the joker doing his "magic trick" and when they showed two-face's face for the 1st time. Movies are supposed to make you want to keep watching and have a plot and at least a climax, not just random action and pasted together scenes, it was like they started a whole different movie every 20 mins...the first 6 mins were def the best in the whole movie, then after that it starts to drag it out
People loved the idea of him playing the Joker way before he died, so it had nothing to do with that. that's just coincidence. Jack did a silly version of the Joker, but they wanted him to have a more serious attitude. They wanted a Joker that actually seemed like a threat, not just a goofy comic book villain that just wants to spraypaint over art. I mean come on! It is cliche for villains to have some weird quirks, but Nicholsons' version of the Joker was just a little too silly. Batman wanted to stop being batman because he feared that his presence itself was causing people like the Joker to rise up. I honestly wonder how you missed that, because to be quite honest, they dwell on that idea for a long time. How were the scenes "pasted together?" They did skip from place to place a bit when it wasn't too important, but i mean, would you rather watch Bruce Wayne sleep or something to add to the fluidity? That would only make it longer. They cut out stuff where you can assume what's going on...just like in any other movie.
Nolan's Batman movies have given an old favorite superhero a breath of fresh air and saved it from dying out. Surely you don't prefer George Clooney's silly performance against the governator making wise crack s about "putting him on ice" and asking him if everything is "cool enough" for him, heh. The old batman movies were ok for their time, but the newest ones add a whole new dimension to the concept, and have much better acting, writing, action, and...well, they're just better in every way.
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I thought it was quite a good movie. I didn't expect batman to be the villain at the end though .... but on the other hand, he couldn't let the white knight (the light Gotham city) be known for those terrible things he did.
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I didn't expect batman to be the villain at the end though
Um, spoiler tag, please? Some of us are still waiting for the DVD on Netflix, lol.
Our AP Psychology teacher had us watch a video on Monday, on the psychological aspects of Batman (both comics and movies). It was pretty interesting, and had some parts of Dark Knight in it, although mostly it seemed to gear towards Batman Begins.
Yeah, I watched a special on... was it the Discovery channel? Anyway, it was about the psychology behind Batman and how each villain is a different kind of psychosis. And it mostly talked about Batman Begins... Wonder if it was the same thing. My little brother and I went in to a Batman-fanboy-mode briefly
well the reasons for not showing to much of The Dark Knight are obvious...
but Nolan's batman is one of which really has a psychological, and philosophical side to it. or maybe im just not that old to remember all the old batmans
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I cnat wait for the next one Johny Depp as the Riddler
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But it was still very good, I enjoyed it.
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it was WAY too long, it had no plot!!! no plot at all...not even a climax, it was just a whole bunch of scenes/series put together, felt more like "batman the series back to back", and they rushed it after the 1st half of the movie, the characters had no development and didn't connect, they guy playing the batman can't act for crap, the whole deep voice thing was just stupid and annoying, and when the batman fought, he looked like a midget with tiny arms trying to use karate moves.
The movie should've been called "the joker", he did an OK performance and appeared more than the batman himself. the joker didn't impress me much, people are just flipping over him all because he died, Jack did much better. There was too much pointless talking that didn't even add anything to the movie, and why did batman want to stop being a hero? Did he forget why he became the batman in the 1st place? the movie had a few good parts, like the batmobile turning into a motorcycle, the joker doing his "magic trick" and when they showed two-face's face for the 1st time. Movies are supposed to make you want to keep watching and have a plot and at least a climax, not just random action and pasted together scenes, it was like they started a whole different movie every 20 mins...the first 6 mins were def the best in the whole movie, then after that it starts to drag it out
By far not the best movie I've ever seen, not even a "good" movie....it's just too overhyped
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The movie had a very reasonable thesis. That is, if Batman can be a vigilante and break the law, does this not set a dangerous precedent for others who wish to do the same? And are they any less justified for going above the law to enforce their ideals.
The final confrontation with Two Face, I'll admit I wasn't too impressed with this climax. But that's because I didn't fully believe his motivation in the end to want to go after Gordon and his family as opposed to the actual guy who killed Rachel. That guy being the Joker. But the climax between Batman and the Joker I was very satisfied with. There was almost a catharsis between the two in their final moments together. As the Joker is hanging upside down, confessing his perceived affinity with Batman, it feels really honest and sincere. Batman doesn't quite reciprocate those feelings, but he is at least so relieved for the moment that he seems to be having his own moment of clarity. These are the kinds of scenes I enjoy more in movies as opposed to just yet another brainless action scene with lots of explosions and romantic interests that are in need of saving from ledges of tall buildings (Batman actually does save Rachel from a tall building, but at least that wasn't part of the climax ^_^).
Yeah, movies usually are a bunch of scenes put together. If you felt it was all too fragmented and didn't flow logically, one place in the movie I'd have to agree with you is right after Batman saves Rachel from falling, it just goes on to the next scene. All the while the Joker is still up there in Bruce's penthouse suite. I was wondering just what happened. Did the Joker just leave eventually? Did he kill everyone? What?
I'm not quite sure how you complain at the same time about a movie being too long and also being rushed. Except for just a few scenes, I really liked the pacing of the film. The characters had way more development than your typical comic book movie, and I personally think Christian Bale is a great actor. He gave a slightly better performance in Batman Begins, but establishing Bruce Wayne/Batman's psyche was more critical in that film than in the second. And I think we're actually all in agreement about Bale's mumbly, rumbly voice when he's in his Batman costume. That might have been a combination of the actor's and director's fault though. I still think his worst time doing it was in Batman Begins. "Swear to me!!" LOL
If he didn't impress you much, then why do you feel the movie should've been called The Joker? Aside from him being in the movie more than Batman himself (which I'm not even sure is really true). Why can't a villain be just a pivotal to the story as the hero? In fact, shouldn't he be? Otherwise, where is the motivation for the hero. And without the villain's appearances with all his actions and feelings, how are we supposed to believe in him? If you want some generic movie villain with hardly any motivation or depth and less screen time, watch Iron Man or the Spider Man movies or something.
I'll admit that Ledger's death added to the hype of the movie. But will you entirely overlook his performance just based on that misguided hype?
I'd rather not say Nicholson's or Ledger's portayals of the Joker was better than the other. Tim Burton's Batman films are dramatically different than Nolan's. I would say though that I found Ledger's performance to be more intense. And I felt like he could actually do harm, that there was a real threat. Had Nicholson given a performance more akin to the one he did in The Shining, I might say for sure that Nicholson's portrayal was better. But Burton didn't feel like taking those kinds of risks with Batman.
Oh, boo hoo! Why does everyone have to talk? Why can't there be more car chases and explosions? It's already been five minutes...where the hell are the special effects? And did you really not understand why Batman didn't want to be a hero anymore? Why can't even a guy like him eventually get weary of what he does. Why can't he feel guilty at times for his vigilantism and question the morality of his actions to the point of doubting himself? I'm sorry, is this getting too deep for you. Here ya go: Kaboom! Kapow! Fuxored to the extreme!
I think most people who did see the movie did want to keep watching and were interested in the film. Which is ironic since most people have bad tastes in movies anyway. My opinion, obviously. But I think Dark Knight was one of the best comic book movies I've ever seen. I hardly even thought of it as a comic book movie. It had a very broad appeal without dumbing things down, yet also not pandering too much to the hardcore Batman fans. Nine thumps up.
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Wow. I don't even know where to begin with this comment. No plot? Since when is going against the system to prove a point not a plot? Sure it's been done before, but not nearly as elaborately as in The Dark Knight. No character developement? That's weird, since that's pretty much what they focused on throughout the whole thing. The deep voice thing is to disguise his voice, because unlike ALL the other Batman movie, Batman finally actually cares whether or not people know he's batman. And as for Batman looking like a midget...well, that comment is obviously not really based on anything, unless you watched it on a screen with really, really weird resolution.
People loved the idea of him playing the Joker way before he died, so it had nothing to do with that. that's just coincidence. Jack did a silly version of the Joker, but they wanted him to have a more serious attitude. They wanted a Joker that actually seemed like a threat, not just a goofy comic book villain that just wants to spraypaint over art. I mean come on! It is cliche for villains to have some weird quirks, but Nicholsons' version of the Joker was just a little too silly. Batman wanted to stop being batman because he feared that his presence itself was causing people like the Joker to rise up. I honestly wonder how you missed that, because to be quite honest, they dwell on that idea for a long time. How were the scenes "pasted together?" They did skip from place to place a bit when it wasn't too important, but i mean, would you rather watch Bruce Wayne sleep or something to add to the fluidity? That would only make it longer. They cut out stuff where you can assume what's going on...just like in any other movie.
Nolan's Batman movies have given an old favorite superhero a breath of fresh air and saved it from dying out. Surely you don't prefer George Clooney's silly performance against the governator making wise crack s about "putting him on ice" and asking him if everything is "cool enough" for him, heh. The old batman movies were ok for their time, but the newest ones add a whole new dimension to the concept, and have much better acting, writing, action, and...well, they're just better in every way.
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Our AP Psychology teacher had us watch a video on Monday, on the psychological aspects of Batman (both comics and movies). It was pretty interesting, and had some parts of Dark Knight in it, although mostly it seemed to gear towards Batman Begins.
but Nolan's batman is one of which really has a psychological, and philosophical side to it. or maybe im just not that old to remember all the old batmans
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