I'm just wondering if we have a hint of what the Barb's been up to during the last 20 years.
If I'm understanding correctly, the Barb in D3 is the same one in D2? But I'm sure the Barb would start with no gear in D3, as with all new characters. What do you suppose would explain why the Barb would have all this good armor in D2 and then later on have nothing when evil comes again?
he got fat and lazy...thus he couldnt fit in his armors and his weapons he pawned off for gold so he could get by, because a minimum wage job at walmart isnt gonna sustain a 300 pound barb during those 20 yrs
on a more serious note, they mentioned some evil at mt. arreat, so maybe that, or maybe he was training or i dunno, use your imagination...he became an ancient...w/e
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It is not the same barbarian. Even tough it looks like it.
The barbarian in LOD would be 30 years old tops, that would make him 50 ish in Diablo 3. The Barbarian in D3 could pass for 50, if not older.
It is not the same barbarian. The Death Knight in Warcraft III was not the same as the Death Knight in WCII, despite both riding undead horses and having life draining skills.
The same goes for the Barbarians here, similar but not the same.
As for story to prove or disprove the point, you will need to wait.
DIablo II
The Barbarian
The Barbarian, a member of any of several tribes on the fringes of civilization, rebuffs the influence of those he sees as soft and weak. Ceaseless clan warfare and the constant struggle to survive in the hostile wilderness are evident in the Barbarian's sturdy and powerful frame. Though perhaps lacking the sophistication of his civilized contemporaries, the Barbarian has an acute awareness of his surroundings. Because of his shamanistic belief in the animal powers with whom he identifies, the Barbarian is sometimes associated with stories of lycanthropy. In fact, he believes that he can improve his superb battle tactics by calling upon the totemic animal spirits to infuse him with supernormal strengths and abilities.
Legend says that when the world was very young the tribes of the Northern Steppes were given a sacred charge. Somewhere deep within the great mountain, Arreat, lies a source of great power, crucial to the well being of all humanity. The tribes were tasked to act as guardians of this artifact. They have shaped their way of life in observance of this power and fulfilling their sacred duty.
Steeped in mystery and tradition, these people refer to themselves as the "Children of Bul-Kathos," the great and ancient king. To better protect their lands from outside forces, they adopted a nomadic lifestyle, frequently moving within the confines of the Steppes and maintaining few permanent settlements. Isolating themselves from the world outside their territories, they eschew the use of magics and complex machinery, as they believe these things can only weaken their resolve developed over so many years.
The Children of Bul-Kathos have developed a kinship with the land and have learned to harness the primal energies within nature to enhance their own substantial physical prowess. It is because of this, together with their freedom from the trappings of the outside world, that the Western Kingdoms have historically referred to these tribes as "Barbarians," an epithet that belies the rich cultural and spiritual history these people truly possess. Although some trade with these curious bands of nomads, they do so only along the outermost borders of their lands. All intrusions into the territory surrounding Mount Arreat are forbidden, and warriors from the northern tribes are quick to thwart any incursions. Every foreign attempt at conquest has been met with fierce and decisive resistance.
An account of one skirmish recounts how hordes of Barbarian tribesmen silently appeared where none had been but moments before. Their bodies painted in mysterious designs and their faces howling as they charged like the fierce mountain winds, the tribesmen descended on the invaders. Fully half of the trespassing army immediately dropped their weapons and fled, the remainder were set upon by the Northmen with fervor that none of the battle-hardened invaders had ever witnessed. No mercy was asked and none was given, but in the end, when the outlanders sounded a full retreat, no chase was given either… at least none that could be observed.
Since news of Diablo's re-emergence has spread, a small number of Barbarian warriors have begun roving the lands outside the Steppes, prepared for war and seeking information regarding the recent activities of the Prime Evils.
Dablo III
In my journey to catalogue the various denizens, civilizations, and fauna of our world, I have traveled far and wide, but never before have I been struck with such dismay as when standing upon the ramparts of the ancient fortress of Bastion's Keep. I came to see firsthand the barbarians, those near-legendary, immense, relentless, dual-wielding furies of combat dwelling upon their sacred Mount Arreat.
Instead, I stand here looking at a mountain that has been torn asunder by some extraordinary force. The sight, I must confess, is incomprehensible. Yet what I see before me cannot be denied.
What truly happened here? Where are those majestic warriors of old?
Though they were once misunderstood as simple, bloodthirsty invaders, the long and noble history of these proud people is now rightly acknowledged. And therein lies the greater tragedy here, for those of us familiar with the nobility of the barbarians remember too what they call their "vigil", the concept that lay at the very heart of their culture. The barbarians consider it their sworn duty to protect Mount Arreat and the mysterious object within. They believe that if they fail to uphold their duty to the great mount, or are not given a proper burial upon its slopes, they will be denied a true warrior's death, and their spirits shall roam the land without honor for all eternity.
If there are any barbarians left alive, they must truly be without hope. Perhaps this is the genesis of the rumors of monstrous things reported to resemble the barbarians in size and ferocity, but that are in reality nothing more than unreasoning, inhuman beasts. Could the destruction of not only their home but also their very beliefs have actually brought this magnificent race so low?
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
It is not the same barbarian. Even tough it looks like it.
The barbarian in LOD would be 30 years old tops, that would make him 50 ish in Diablo 3. The Barbarian in D3 could pass for 50, if not older.
It is not the same barbarian. The Death Knight in Warcraft III was not the same as the Death Knight in WCII, despite both riding undead horses and having life draining skills.
The same goes for the Barbarians here, similar but not the same.
You're right. It's obviously their offspring from CLONING!
It is not the same barbarian. Even tough it looks like it.
The barbarian in LOD would be 30 years old tops, that would make him 50 ish in Diablo 3. The Barbarian in D3 could pass for 50, if not older.
It is not the same barbarian. The Death Knight in Warcraft III was not the same as the Death Knight in WCII, despite both riding undead horses and having life draining skills.
The same goes for the Barbarians here, similar but not the same.
It could be. I don't think Blizzard is going to flat out say it isn't the same guy as your hero because that would ruin the fantasy of Diablo fans continuing their adventure with their favorite hero.
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All I have to say is if that's the same Barbarian, apparently he's got LOTS of clones considering the amount of Barbarians there were in Diablo II.
On a serious note, he probably sold off his gear as the demons and Prime Evils disappeared. Hell, he was probably busy rebuilding his Barbarian cities.
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If you guys watched the last panel they stated it is the same barbarian. It's one of the reasons why they mentioned he is suppose to look older, and the scars from battle and stuff.
Since lore wise, skills do not count, yes, it is probably the same one (guess that kinda means the barb was the canonical hero of D2/LOD then, YAY! GO BARBS!) as skills do not count (you take classes at face value), then it is understandable why he has different skills/unlearned/forgot his skills.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
no it has been stated numerous times by the panel of Blizzard employees that he is the same barb. so that means he is now canon for the d2 hero.
HOWEVER if you read Cain's journal on the d3 website it says he went with heroes (plural) to lut gholein, then to kurast, then to the pandemonium fortress, and then finally to the barbarian capital harrogath
so i think they are leaving it open for interpretation as to who is the canonical hero. or leaving it open so they can change it later
If I'm understanding correctly, the Barb in D3 is the same one in D2? But I'm sure the Barb would start with no gear in D3, as with all new characters. What do you suppose would explain why the Barb would have all this good armor in D2 and then later on have nothing when evil comes again?
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if your making this thread, you might as well ask "Give me my enigma and grief from my barb!!!!!1111oneone"
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on a more serious note, they mentioned some evil at mt. arreat, so maybe that, or maybe he was training or i dunno, use your imagination...he became an ancient...w/e
"to the worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish."
Uhhh, no. That is not the point of my question. I am merely asking what a possible STORY element might be to explain it.
The Diablo 3 Barbarian: His Mid-Life, Your Crisis.
The barbarian in LOD would be 30 years old tops, that would make him 50 ish in Diablo 3. The Barbarian in D3 could pass for 50, if not older.
It is not the same barbarian. The Death Knight in Warcraft III was not the same as the Death Knight in WCII, despite both riding undead horses and having life draining skills.
The same goes for the Barbarians here, similar but not the same.
As for story to prove or disprove the point, you will need to wait.
DIablo II
The Barbarian
The Barbarian, a member of any of several tribes on the fringes of civilization, rebuffs the influence of those he sees as soft and weak. Ceaseless clan warfare and the constant struggle to survive in the hostile wilderness are evident in the Barbarian's sturdy and powerful frame. Though perhaps lacking the sophistication of his civilized contemporaries, the Barbarian has an acute awareness of his surroundings. Because of his shamanistic belief in the animal powers with whom he identifies, the Barbarian is sometimes associated with stories of lycanthropy. In fact, he believes that he can improve his superb battle tactics by calling upon the totemic animal spirits to infuse him with supernormal strengths and abilities.
Legend says that when the world was very young the tribes of the Northern Steppes were given a sacred charge. Somewhere deep within the great mountain, Arreat, lies a source of great power, crucial to the well being of all humanity. The tribes were tasked to act as guardians of this artifact. They have shaped their way of life in observance of this power and fulfilling their sacred duty.
Steeped in mystery and tradition, these people refer to themselves as the "Children of Bul-Kathos," the great and ancient king. To better protect their lands from outside forces, they adopted a nomadic lifestyle, frequently moving within the confines of the Steppes and maintaining few permanent settlements. Isolating themselves from the world outside their territories, they eschew the use of magics and complex machinery, as they believe these things can only weaken their resolve developed over so many years.
The Children of Bul-Kathos have developed a kinship with the land and have learned to harness the primal energies within nature to enhance their own substantial physical prowess. It is because of this, together with their freedom from the trappings of the outside world, that the Western Kingdoms have historically referred to these tribes as "Barbarians," an epithet that belies the rich cultural and spiritual history these people truly possess. Although some trade with these curious bands of nomads, they do so only along the outermost borders of their lands. All intrusions into the territory surrounding Mount Arreat are forbidden, and warriors from the northern tribes are quick to thwart any incursions. Every foreign attempt at conquest has been met with fierce and decisive resistance.
An account of one skirmish recounts how hordes of Barbarian tribesmen silently appeared where none had been but moments before. Their bodies painted in mysterious designs and their faces howling as they charged like the fierce mountain winds, the tribesmen descended on the invaders. Fully half of the trespassing army immediately dropped their weapons and fled, the remainder were set upon by the Northmen with fervor that none of the battle-hardened invaders had ever witnessed. No mercy was asked and none was given, but in the end, when the outlanders sounded a full retreat, no chase was given either… at least none that could be observed.
Since news of Diablo's re-emergence has spread, a small number of Barbarian warriors have begun roving the lands outside the Steppes, prepared for war and seeking information regarding the recent activities of the Prime Evils.
Dablo III
In my journey to catalogue the various denizens, civilizations, and fauna of our world, I have traveled far and wide, but never before have I been struck with such dismay as when standing upon the ramparts of the ancient fortress of Bastion's Keep. I came to see firsthand the barbarians, those near-legendary, immense, relentless, dual-wielding furies of combat dwelling upon their sacred Mount Arreat.
Instead, I stand here looking at a mountain that has been torn asunder by some extraordinary force. The sight, I must confess, is incomprehensible. Yet what I see before me cannot be denied.
What truly happened here? Where are those majestic warriors of old?
Though they were once misunderstood as simple, bloodthirsty invaders, the long and noble history of these proud people is now rightly acknowledged. And therein lies the greater tragedy here, for those of us familiar with the nobility of the barbarians remember too what they call their "vigil", the concept that lay at the very heart of their culture. The barbarians consider it their sworn duty to protect Mount Arreat and the mysterious object within. They believe that if they fail to uphold their duty to the great mount, or are not given a proper burial upon its slopes, they will be denied a true warrior's death, and their spirits shall roam the land without honor for all eternity.
If there are any barbarians left alive, they must truly be without hope. Perhaps this is the genesis of the rumors of monstrous things reported to resemble the barbarians in size and ferocity, but that are in reality nothing more than unreasoning, inhuman beasts. Could the destruction of not only their home but also their very beliefs have actually brought this magnificent race so low?
You're right. It's obviously their offspring from CLONING!
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
Don't sign the artistic direction petition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXsNGEKGPwo Don't sign it!! lol NSFW
You guys sound like a bunch of introverts who never go outside and wish sorcery was real.-7Deadly
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
On a serious note, he probably sold off his gear as the demons and Prime Evils disappeared. Hell, he was probably busy rebuilding his Barbarian cities.
no it has been stated numerous times by the panel of Blizzard employees that he is the same barb. so that means he is now canon for the d2 hero.
HOWEVER if you read Cain's journal on the d3 website it says he went with heroes (plural) to lut gholein, then to kurast, then to the pandemonium fortress, and then finally to the barbarian capital harrogath
so i think they are leaving it open for interpretation as to who is the canonical hero. or leaving it open so they can change it later
The Diablo 3 Barbarian: His Mid-Life, Your Crisis.