i think that pay for play is a bad idea.
1. it chases away most under 16. Yes that group is playing WoW but could they swing another $15 a month? while that group can be annoying players, they are still a critical group to game profits.
2. i would be a fundamental change from d1 and d2. given the large time gap between d2 and d3, fundamental play change would be negative on return buyers.
I'm not quite so sure about your first one, because many people would argue that that is what parents are for. Hell, I'm 15, and they pay for my WoW (given that I do a lot of extra work like landscaping and stuff for them).
I must say that you bring up a very valid point for your second one. With the long time period inbetween D2 and D3, the employment roster for Blizzard has changed dramatically, and probably doesn't have as many of the originators as we would hope, so that adds to the possibilty that this new blood might alter the fundamentals of D2 for D3, that made it so great. But I'm straying from your main idea. It would piss a lot of returners off to see that they have to pay to play the sequel, it's just that the Diablo series is one that I would like to see doesn't end for a long time, so supporting Blizzard to add new content would be an incentive for them.
I'm not quite so sure about your first one, because many people would argue that that is what parents are for. Hell, I'm 15, and they pay for my WoW (given that I do a lot of extra work like landscaping and stuff for them).
i think alot of parents are willing to pay $15 a month for WoW access for their kids. I am not sure many would be willing to pay another $15 for diablo. I can see competing companies doing this (ultima, etc) but not inside the same company. Blizzard would be cannabalizing their own business for those that couldnt/wouldnt afford the $30 total. Again, this is a small segment of gamers but an important one as those that love a game at 13 will very likely buy the sequel at 16 and so on and so forth.
I am not sure many would be willing to pay another $15 for diablo. I can see competing companies doing this (ultima, etc) but not inside the same company. Blizzard would be cannabalizing their own business for those that couldnt/wouldnt afford the $30 total. Again, this is a small segment of gamers but an important one as those that love a game at 13 will very likely buy the sequel at 16 and so on and so forth.
what u forget is that the people will not leave the company, even if they cancel their subscriptions of WoW. Its as if u say that a car company competes and cannibalizes itself when it produces many different car models There are many people (me included) that dont really feel at home in WoW and just play it cause there's nothing that good around (i dont like the flair of WoW that much as i did with Diablo). By creating a new Diablo game. Even as a MMO (i really doubt that they do so before they finish the trilogy) Diablo would get some of the people that play WoW but also a very large amount of people that play Diablo 2 and other online games except WoW. The people that probably will leave WoW for D3 (or a possible Diablo MMO) will make life easier on WoW server, thus the customers there will be even happier
It would possibly mean more losses to Blizzard to get out a free multiplayer part for Diablo 3, like battle.net, than making a MMO in this universe. (Thats why i think they wont announce it before the Burning Crusade has sold some million pieces already).
Same goes for any possible MMO version of Starcraft.
I don't think it would be worth it to pay for a series that has always been free. All my friends that beta tested WoW with me quit when it turned out to be P2P. The admins on the Closed Beta told us it would be a free game except for the purchase in the store. So, anyways, I would not play it if I had to pay it.
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I would pay the same as wow but not more because I'll get a beter game in return! And all those kids U-16 will beg their parents for money if there is a 2 month free trial. Once they are hooked they will do whatever it takes to make the money lol. I knew kids when I played CS that made their parent give them 10 bucks for ADMIN!
I wouldn't pay more than the initial $50-60 it took to get the game. However, if it was PtP, I would pay up to $15 a month since I love the Diablo franchise so much.
they could make a expantion allyosuagh your actin like they would be all broke after d3 started losin popularity they would stil have enough from wow to make an expantion and kick start the cycle again...you think before you hit repley
KEEP DIABLO 3 FREEEEEE FREEEEEEEE.... don't be CHEAT a$$'s...
d1d2 were free if you run short on cash JUST MAKE A EXPANTION >.<
Ever heard of spellcheck? And if you would like more content to flow into the game, so that the game stays interesting after years of being out, Blizzard is gonna need money in order to do that. You'd lose in the end.
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think a lil hard watson they amke expantion... >.< DEDICATED GAMERS THOUSANDS OF THEM will buy it AND VUALA MONEYS BACK!!!!!
I'm sorry, how old are you again? Oh wait, I've got a better question, did you forget to wear a helmet? You're supposed to do that any time you decide to bang your head against a wall, repetitively, to insure that you don't end up any stupider. But I guess it's too late now.
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they could make a expantion allyosuagh your actin like they would be all broke after d3 started losin popularity they would stil have enough from wow to make an expantion and kick start the cycle again...you think before you hit repley
Speaking of thinking, did you think about spellchecking? That way, when you're trying to make a point, people won't mistake you for retarded.
But, with that mindset, if D3 is losing popularity, and Blizzard isn't getting any money from it, statistically speaking they would be lead to believe that starting a whole new project would recoup sales, as opposed to reviving an old one. And besides, 90% of the money made on WoW is used to install satellite locations to improve server performance, replace technology, so servers run better, etc. The 10% left over should go to new projects.
the thing here is:
1. IF it is Pay to Play and not a MMO its not worth paying for (since there isnt something to pay for - support is slow and no new content flowing anyways)
2. IF its a MMO it shouldnt be called Diablo 3, but Realms of Diablo or something similar.
I dont think they'll make a MMO called Diablo 3 btw, its not Blizzards style to completely change the way a game is (a MMO is really different than the usual Diablo, cause it requires players working together) before they're done with what they've been planning from the beginning.
they could make a expantion allyosuagh your actin like they would be all broke after d3 started losin popularity they would stil have enough from wow to make an expantion and kick start the cycle again...you think before you hit repley
Are you serious? Blizzard is a pretty big company and i don't think they would be that dumb. Why would they use the money from wow to save them from their loses when they could just charge the millions of players a few dollars and make millions in profits. It's likely that Diablo 3 will be pay to play because of their success with world of warcraft!
the usual time to create a MMO is 4 years. Vivendi said they'd be able to make one in 3 years. Still, its most likely they do so after WoW gets older and cant compete in matter graphics/gameplay with the newest titles at the time.
What Blizzard did with WoW was this:
They worked on Warcraft 3, announced it, then started working on WoW, then sold Warcraft 3, started working on WC 3 expansion, announced it, and then announced WoW i think (some1 correct me if i'm wrong here i cant remember exactly the dates each game was announced).
Its not that probable for them to make another MMO that early (WoW isnt even 2 years old atm). They'll most likely do another Diablo part with both single and multiplayer modes, add an expansion and after some years they'll add a MMO to make even more money from the Diablo franchise
with the numbers we got about how the Diablo franchise sold in total its the most successfull thing Blizzard ever made from single/free multiplayer games.
a strategy like this would make perfect sense but its all up to Blizzard. All we can do is wait and see what future brings
I think Diablo 2 was already too close to an MMORPG already, so I doubt it will take the same route as the Warcraft series. However, if they ever get around to working on the Starcraft series, that would be more likely to take the same route.
Sorry i voted none. I am cheap lets face it im not paying 60++ dollars for a damn game and then pay monthly to play that game. Doesnt make sense to me. However i am sure millons of ppl will pay to play i will just stick with d2 if they do that is all
I'm not quite so sure about your first one, because many people would argue that that is what parents are for. Hell, I'm 15, and they pay for my WoW (given that I do a lot of extra work like landscaping and stuff for them).
I must say that you bring up a very valid point for your second one. With the long time period inbetween D2 and D3, the employment roster for Blizzard has changed dramatically, and probably doesn't have as many of the originators as we would hope, so that adds to the possibilty that this new blood might alter the fundamentals of D2 for D3, that made it so great. But I'm straying from your main idea. It would piss a lot of returners off to see that they have to pay to play the sequel, it's just that the Diablo series is one that I would like to see doesn't end for a long time, so supporting Blizzard to add new content would be an incentive for them.
i think alot of parents are willing to pay $15 a month for WoW access for their kids. I am not sure many would be willing to pay another $15 for diablo. I can see competing companies doing this (ultima, etc) but not inside the same company. Blizzard would be cannabalizing their own business for those that couldnt/wouldnt afford the $30 total. Again, this is a small segment of gamers but an important one as those that love a game at 13 will very likely buy the sequel at 16 and so on and so forth.
what u forget is that the people will not leave the company, even if they cancel their subscriptions of WoW. Its as if u say that a car company competes and cannibalizes itself when it produces many different car models There are many people (me included) that dont really feel at home in WoW and just play it cause there's nothing that good around (i dont like the flair of WoW that much as i did with Diablo). By creating a new Diablo game. Even as a MMO (i really doubt that they do so before they finish the trilogy) Diablo would get some of the people that play WoW but also a very large amount of people that play Diablo 2 and other online games except WoW. The people that probably will leave WoW for D3 (or a possible Diablo MMO) will make life easier on WoW server, thus the customers there will be even happier
It would possibly mean more losses to Blizzard to get out a free multiplayer part for Diablo 3, like battle.net, than making a MMO in this universe. (Thats why i think they wont announce it before the Burning Crusade has sold some million pieces already).
Same goes for any possible MMO version of Starcraft.
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Ever heard of spellcheck? And if you would like more content to flow into the game, so that the game stays interesting after years of being out, Blizzard is gonna need money in order to do that. You'd lose in the end.
I'm sorry, how old are you again? Oh wait, I've got a better question, did you forget to wear a helmet? You're supposed to do that any time you decide to bang your head against a wall, repetitively, to insure that you don't end up any stupider. But I guess it's too late now.
Speaking of thinking, did you think about spellchecking? That way, when you're trying to make a point, people won't mistake you for retarded.
But, with that mindset, if D3 is losing popularity, and Blizzard isn't getting any money from it, statistically speaking they would be lead to believe that starting a whole new project would recoup sales, as opposed to reviving an old one. And besides, 90% of the money made on WoW is used to install satellite locations to improve server performance, replace technology, so servers run better, etc. The 10% left over should go to new projects.
Please...I urge you all....spellcheck.
1. IF it is Pay to Play and not a MMO its not worth paying for (since there isnt something to pay for - support is slow and no new content flowing anyways)
2. IF its a MMO it shouldnt be called Diablo 3, but Realms of Diablo or something similar.
I dont think they'll make a MMO called Diablo 3 btw, its not Blizzards style to completely change the way a game is (a MMO is really different than the usual Diablo, cause it requires players working together) before they're done with what they've been planning from the beginning.
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What Blizzard did with WoW was this:
They worked on Warcraft 3, announced it, then started working on WoW, then sold Warcraft 3, started working on WC 3 expansion, announced it, and then announced WoW i think (some1 correct me if i'm wrong here i cant remember exactly the dates each game was announced).
Its not that probable for them to make another MMO that early (WoW isnt even 2 years old atm). They'll most likely do another Diablo part with both single and multiplayer modes, add an expansion and after some years they'll add a MMO to make even more money from the Diablo franchise
with the numbers we got about how the Diablo franchise sold in total its the most successfull thing Blizzard ever made from single/free multiplayer games.
a strategy like this would make perfect sense but its all up to Blizzard. All we can do is wait and see what future brings
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