Actually he is right. Anybody with a scientific degree is usually not religious. Most college professors are atheist, usually those in mathematics, physics, chemistry, philosophy, biology (especially this one), etc. There is no taboo in science, and saying that there is might be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
I'm studying lab medicine and I still believe in God and have complete faith in my religion. Science explains the big bang and all that crap, it still fails to explain where all the shit that "banged" came from. If it managed to find that out, where did the things that resulted in the things that resulted in the big bang come from? And so on. God is the final answer, and all one has to have is faith to believe in it all. If God went on CNN and went like "hey you blasphemous fuckers, how about you stop listening to all your black Metal shit, put down your liquor bottle, and worship me, EH?" it would be absolutely fucking silly, and there'd be no thing as faith then, and everyone would simply worship God; and where's the "test" in that?
All that I see in this thread is people discussing Christianity. What about Judaism? What about Islam? Can you please tell me how Islam has failed? You seem hellbent on showcasing Christianity's failure, can you please tell me Islam's "wrongs" ? Let's assume for the sake of example, that the Bible is wrong here and there because it has been written again and again by that guy and that guy, with plenty of differences between people with regards to several subject. Islam only has the Quran. Islam only has two sects, differing in slight things, all things considered. Since some of you like to think that they know everything, and therefore everyone who is religious or even believes in God is a fucking nutcase, please tell me what you KNOW about Islam, what you think it has gotten wrong in its Holy book, what you think science has disproved in the Quran...etc. Oh wait, you haven't read the Quran? You don't know anything about Islam bar the fact that Muslims are turban wearing terrorists? Heh, thought so.
What makes Christians 'Christian' is Jesus "those who believe in me are to be granted eternal life", the Christian Bible (New Testament) is entirely Jesus' story (written by different accounts), so basically no matter what (be it your a criminal, murderer, humantiarian, or average joe) if you truly believe in Jesus Christ and that he is the Son of God and died on the cross for all of our sins (past, future, and present) then you shall be granted eternal life, that's Catholicism/Christianity in a nutshell.
And I did give specific examples, again the 'taboo' of science is our morality. Our morality is the reason why people don't diesct other people for the sake of studying anatomy (like Da Vinci did) or why we don't clone humans even though we have the technology to do so. As long as this morality exists (and it will as long as we are human beings) then religion shall exist, why? Because religion is basically the refelction of humanity's moral values.
Umm, I wasn't talking to you? Not to come off as a dick, but I really wasn't.
No it's not. If you're really studying lab science then you should know about the scientific method. You should know what unknowns are. Just because YOU think God is the only answer, does not mean that someone with a rational scientific mind can't see other answers. Do you know anything about the universe? How do you know how the universe formed? How do you know what was before it? The difference between you and me is that I am patient. I don't go straight to the entire "God is the ONLY answer" bullshit. I understand that I know NOTHING about the world around me, or even the world that isn't around me. Your perception on this is only one sided, and that to me, is a terrible way to get into whatever scientific field you're getting into.
I never said that everyone should believe in God. I was only voicing my own opinion on the matter, and telling everyone why "I" believe in what I believe. I never told you that your way is absolute nonsense, and that you should follow MY way of thinking, my way of life, and my religious ways. I'd also appreciate it if you didn't call my examples "bullshit", because you're walking on an extremely thin line, and I'll certainly get you banned the next time you go out of line when addressing me; and this time, it'll be for good. My perception isn't one sided. It took science a whole lot of time to come up with the big bang theory, which in itself isn't even completely concrete..good luck on that waiting thing..I doubt they'll find out everything about the universe before you bite the dust. I appreciate your input about the scientific field that I'm getting into, but you can only dream to reach the level that I'm currently at, and the place in life I'm currently in.
There is a new aproach in today's world that combines the aspects of spirtuality with science. I like to believe in this and have hope that someday there will be no more seperation between the two. Because after all, the holy books are some kind of history books with alot of scientific material in them. Especially the Quran that is.
Please don't take this the wrong way as I am trying to say this in a kind fashion (Which as many people know, is difficult for me ) but...what science is in the holy books? I don't remember reading that the universe is 14 billion years old, or that e=mc^2, or that light travels at 299,792,458 m/s... If I am mistaken and these facts are in the Bible and Quran and Torah and Bagavad Gita or other such holy books then please enlighten me, as I don't like not knowing stuff.
Wel if you want to be literal about it, there is no natural science I recall in any holy books (correct me if I'm wrong) but there's is philosophical science.
You also have the fact that flies are covered in bacteria and other such things, along with the fact that they play in feces, which is not good. I for one would disagree with the Quran's "scientific" fact that flies are good, on the basis that flies are not good to eat. As for the Moon, that's not science that it requires science to get to the moon, it's common sense that it requires science to get to the moon.
I still don't see any science in the holy books.
What you're saying is something like this:
I for one would disagree with the general population's "scientific" fact that men should only sex women. I also disagree with the fact that food is good for you, because it's not good for you if you open up your skull, stuff some bacon and Pepsi into your brain, then close it back up.
That's basically what you're saying. Flies are important, but you shouldn't fucking eat flies. The Quran doesn't tell you "flies are good..they benefit the world..based on that, you should totally eat the living shit out of them, bro".
There is a new aproach in today's world that combines the aspects of spirtuality with science. I like to believe in this and have hope that someday there will be no more seperation between the two. Because after all, the holy books are some kind of history books with alot of scientific material in them. Especially the Quran that is.
Please don't take this the wrong way as I am trying to say this in a kind fashion (Which as many people know, is difficult for me ) but...what science is in the holy books? I don't remember reading that the universe is 14 billion years old, or that e=mc^2, or that light travels at 299,792,458 m/s... If I am mistaken and these facts are in the Bible and Quran and Torah and Bagavad Gita or other such holy books then please enlighten me, as I don't like not knowing stuff.
If ANY book, not just a religious one, were to include every single scientific piece of data, it would literally be too big to even conceive. Good luck having one of those in every household, nevertheless having everyone read them. Good luck driving people to "believe" in God when God gives you everything on a silver platter, and just blatantly goes out of his way to prove his existence. Imagine the existence of a 20 megapixel camera back when the prophets/Jesus/whoever was present..that would certainly fuck up the entire concept of "faith".
Your entire logic is like an M. Night Shyamalan movie. Absolutely terrible, with so many plot holes and baffling elements, your brain begins to hurt, and your eyes begin to sweat so as to keep you from seeing anymore of it. I'm sorry, but everytime I read your posts in this thread, I'm equally amused and saddened. It's pretty much a Dramedy. They're funny because they're absolutely null and ridiculous, and they're sad because..well..you think flies aren't good because they have bacteria on them and the Quran is totally full of shit because eating flies is not really good.
You also have the fact that flies are covered in bacteria and other such things, along with the fact that they play in feces, which is not good. I for one would disagree with the Quran's "scientific" fact that flies are good, on the basis that flies are not good to eat. As for the Moon, that's not science that it requires science to get to the moon, it's common sense that it requires science to get to the moon.
I still don't see any science in the holy books.
The word ‘star’ (najm) in the Qur’an is accompanied by the adjective thaaqib which indicates that it burns and consumes itself as it pierces through the shadows of the night. It was much later discovered that stars are bodies producing their own light like the sun and have limited life (Are consumed).
In the Qur’an, a different word, kawkab, is used to refer to the planets which are celestial bodies that reflect light and do not produce their own light like the sun.
Do you want me to continue? there is much more than that.
If ANY book, not just a religious one, were to include every single scientific piece of data, it would literally be too big to even conceive. Good luck having one of those in every household, nevertheless having everyone read them. Good luck driving people to "believe" in God when God gives you everything on a silver platter,
Right, it's so much better that he instead gave us lies to fill up his book with. If scientific fact would take up so much room, why would he even begin to fill up the empty space with incorrect data?
I think much of Christianity has broken away from these debunked facts because it's not helping their primary goal of recruiting more believers.
and just blatantly goes out of his way to prove his existence. Imagine the existence of a 20 megapixel camera back when the prophets/Jesus/whoever was present..that would certainly fuck up the entire concept of "faith".
What was Jesus then? Wasn't he out to prove something? Weren't all those "facts" there to give some kind of cheap evidence that god created the Earth and everything on it? When believers present this evidence (if you can even call it that) and then conclude with "so obviously god is real" then you know - without a doubt - that they are biased individuals that have been brainwashed.
If ANY book, not just a religious one, were to include every single scientific piece of data, it would literally be too big to even conceive. Good luck having one of those in every household, nevertheless having everyone read them. Good luck driving people to "believe" in God when God gives you everything on a silver platter,
Right, it's so much better that he instead gave us lies to fill up his book with. If scientific fact would take up so much room, why would he even begin to fill up the empty space with incorrect data?
I think much of Christianity has broken away from these debunked facts because it's not helping their primary goal of recruiting more believers.
and just blatantly goes out of his way to prove his existence. Imagine the existence of a 20 megapixel camera back when the prophets/Jesus/whoever was present..that would certainly fuck up the entire concept of "faith".
What was Jesus then? Wasn't he out to prove something? Weren't all those "facts" there to give some kind of cheap evidence that god created the Earth and everything on it? When believers present this evidence (if you can even call it that) and then conclude with "so obviously god is real" then you know - without a doubt - that they are biased individuals that have been brainwashed.
Can you please stop talking about Christianity and the Bible, and start talking about the Quran, and start giving me examples from those specific things, without retorting to Google? Wait, you can't? Thought so. You haven't read the Quran. You know next to nothing about it and about Islam, so stop defaming it.
Good luck proving to me that people were brainwashed thousands of years ago. I doubt your grandpa or daddio were alive back then. They didn't "prove" anything, they just preached, and you were free to believe. Some performed miracles, some things were performed by God. If you don't want to believe that kind of stuff, don't. I do. But don't start berating me for believing in what I believe, because I certainly am not doing that.
Tell you what. Provide me with some of that hardcore scientific "evidence" proving that God doesn't exist, and I'll rest my case. Just as I can't actually PROVE that God exists, you equally CAN'T prove that he DOESN'T exist. At the end of the day, this is just an argument with no end in sight. It's like two people arguing about The Lochness Monster. There's no proof that it exists, but there's no proof that it absolutely does not exist. Feel free to believe what you want to believe, but I for one, will not live my life thinking that I'm just living life for the sake of living it, and that there's no endgame content.
Can you please stop talking about Christianity and the Bible, and start talking about the Quran, and start giving me examples from those specific things, without retorting to Google? Wait, you can't? Thought so. You haven't read the Quran. You know next to nothing about it and about Islam, so stop defaming it.
Yes you're right, I don't know much if anything about it. But that's a pretty low blow to criticize me for not knowing about such a specialized topic.
I wouldn't have even made a single post in this thread if it was labelled "Quran Vs. Science" But since it's about religion, that I do know. And I was brought up in a Christian family, so you can guess which religion I am specifically going to be addressing.
Good luck proving to me that people were brainwashed thousands of years ago.
I doubt your grandpa or daddio were alive back then. They didn't "prove" anything, they just preached, and you were free to believe. Some performed miracles, some things were performed by God.
Take a look at the nature of people. They easily succumb to any rumours that seem to explain that which they do not know. It's not surprising that many people in the past believed in those stories, because belief spreads like wildfire - in other words, you would be shunned by the community if you opposed their belief. And what is critically important to note in this case is that no one had any reason to not believe in it. It was their only answer.
If you don't want to believe that kind of stuff, don't. I do. But don't start berating me for believing in what I believe, because I certainly am not doing that.
Feel free to believe what you want to believe, but I for one, will not live my life thinking that I'm just living life for the sake of living it, and that there's no endgame content.
What you believe doesn't concern me. I just want to ask you, if you're happy with your life then why do you need to be considering what will happen in your afterlife when you,
1) Aren't sure it even exists
2) Probably haven't even considered what you will do 10 years from now
Doesn't it occur to you that man could've made up that whole heaven-hell comparison just to try and make you and me a better person in life? The most effective tool in changing someone's attitude is fear, and this is what they're using against us.
But if heaven and hell exists, why would we have a justice system? Why don't they just leave it in the devil's hands to punish them for the rest of eternity? Sorry, I don't mean to sound rude, but justice systems were created because there are many logical minded people out there that can see passed this brainwashing scheme, and lots of them are bad people too.
Tell you what. Provide me with some of that hardcore scientific "evidence" proving that God doesn't exist, and I'll rest my case. Just as I can't actually PROVE that God exists, you equally CAN'T prove that he DOESN'T exist.
This argument has been used to death already...
You know that when Galileo gave some of that hardcore scientific evidence you're referring to about the Earth revolving around the Sun, he was tortured for it. Before this, if anyone questioned the Bible's facts then the same argument could have been produced: "Well then prove that it isn't true". Back then it couldn't, but what about now? Oh well now it's different. No one even thinks of arguing for the Bible's facts without coming up with some very crude and imaginative responses such as "the math was wrong".
The only evidence one can give for your query is of course limited to the discoveries Science has already made. I can say for one that if God is perfect, then he wouldn't be so imperfect as to create lies.
At the end of the day, this is just an argument with no end in sight. It's like two people arguing about The Lochness Monster. There's no proof that it exists, but there's no proof that it absolutely does not exist.
Notice your use of "absolutely". Evidence is swaying much more towards that it doesn't exist because proving/disproving that the Loch Ness monster exists is a much easier challenge and within modern Science's grasp than proving god doesn't exist. They were both based on the same principle though. Some people think they saw something and their imagination ran wild.
I can say for one that if God is perfect, then he wouldn't be so imperfect as to create lies.
You make so many assumptions that it's hard to even discuss this with you. I think this one sentence sums up the fallacies of how you propose your arguments.
Are you suggesting that you know so much that you can even grasp what it means to be perfect and everything that it entails? I find that quite stunning because from my point of view, the idea of perfection is a very abstract and out of reach concept. I wouldn't be caught dead trying to presume I had any inclination as to what a perfect being would do if one existed.
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Are you serious? Man's definition of good deeds is exactly the same as god's definition, according to the ten commandments. But you're willing to suggest that man's definition of perfect, even with its many variations in different instances, is now different to god's definition of perfect?
The only reason I can think of lying as being a good thing (man's definition of good being the same as god's) is if the truth would bring harm to others. Please tell me what harm would come to us if we were given the truth about the universe. Or is this concept out of our reach?
So far, given that it is in our nature to question things, to question that maybe Jesus wasn't who he really claimed he was and the bible was just created by man in an attempt to bring peace to the world is a perfectly valid proposition to make in my opinion.
Yes, the concept of knowing whether harm would come to our well being based on being given the "truth of the universe" is indeed, out of our reach.
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God, Mephisto I find your lack of common sense disturbing. I love how you take my one line and take it completely out of context when this entire thread could get anybody banned for "religious discrimination". If you want to debate, be prepared to be called out on your bullshit or please don't be part of this because I have a feeling that you are posting just to feel... what do you call it... "big".
I would much rather believe in the harsh truth than the comforting lie, but apparently, that's just a "matter of opinion". I posted on your response to that and I would like to remind you that you also use quite "interesting" words to label other people's opinions, do please don't be a hypocrite. If you want to get me banned, please try. I am honestly sick of you coming into threads, posting opinions, and when people respond to it, you laugh at it and ruin the entire thread because you have to act like a troll in everything you do.
Wel if you want to be literal about it, there is no natural science I recall in any holy books (correct me if I'm wrong) but there's is philosophical science.
I mean any science. Hell, the fact that the Earth is round would be a nice thing to put in the Bible, but it specifically says the Earth is flat.
Please, if there is any scientific evidence of any field (Aside from theological "science") then please share it.
The word ‘star’ (najm) in the Qur’an is accompanied by the adjective thaaqib which indicates that it burns and consumes itself as it pierces through the shadows of the night. It was much later discovered that stars are bodies producing their own light like the sun and have limited life (Are consumed).
Stars are not burning. They are large bodies of gas that create photons via fusion. Fire is the only thing that could be compared to them by bronze age desert people. (If any middle easterners read this, I apologize for insulting your ancestors.)
I would much rather believe in the harsh truth than the comforting lie, but apparently, that's just a "matter of opinion".
As would I. However, to presume either to be truth or lie is naive.
"Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it."
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Truth is truth however you want to slice it. And it's something that can rarely be found in this world. It's why I prefer not to take sides. Despite the fact that I still do take sides lol.
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Well the pursuit to find this probably reality is probably what this is all about, the discussion on what makes the most sense and fits in the world and its rules around us. To me, personally, science and math all the way and we came from scientific naturalism, meaning that what science said happened happened. Yet my opinion is still flexible because I, like science, will adjust to stay congruent with reality, even if it means giving up the false hope of an afterlife.
Indeed. And if I may expand on Irrational's post, with Science, tommorrow we could learn that things fall at 8.9 m/s instead of 9.8 m/s, or that light speed is really 399 million m/s instead of 299 million m/s, or that we evolved from dogs, or that we didn't evolve at all, and if there is scientific evidence, then it's what it was. With religion, you always get 72 virgins after death, and Adam and Eve always existed, no matter what new finds we make or new discoveries we find.
Science is based on studying the physical world around us and coming up with conclusions based on that physical world. The alternative is...well...
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Umm, I wasn't talking to you? Not to come off as a dick, but I really wasn't.
I never said that everyone should believe in God. I was only voicing my own opinion on the matter, and telling everyone why "I" believe in what I believe. I never told you that your way is absolute nonsense, and that you should follow MY way of thinking, my way of life, and my religious ways. I'd also appreciate it if you didn't call my examples "bullshit", because you're walking on an extremely thin line, and I'll certainly get you banned the next time you go out of line when addressing me; and this time, it'll be for good. My perception isn't one sided. It took science a whole lot of time to come up with the big bang theory, which in itself isn't even completely concrete..good luck on that waiting thing..I doubt they'll find out everything about the universe before you bite the dust. I appreciate your input about the scientific field that I'm getting into, but you can only dream to reach the level that I'm currently at, and the place in life I'm currently in.
Rise and rise again, until lambs become lions
Wel if you want to be literal about it, there is no natural science I recall in any holy books (correct me if I'm wrong) but there's is philosophical science.
What you're saying is something like this:
I for one would disagree with the general population's "scientific" fact that men should only sex women. I also disagree with the fact that food is good for you, because it's not good for you if you open up your skull, stuff some bacon and Pepsi into your brain, then close it back up.
That's basically what you're saying. Flies are important, but you shouldn't fucking eat flies. The Quran doesn't tell you "flies are good..they benefit the world..based on that, you should totally eat the living shit out of them, bro".
If ANY book, not just a religious one, were to include every single scientific piece of data, it would literally be too big to even conceive. Good luck having one of those in every household, nevertheless having everyone read them. Good luck driving people to "believe" in God when God gives you everything on a silver platter, and just blatantly goes out of his way to prove his existence. Imagine the existence of a 20 megapixel camera back when the prophets/Jesus/whoever was present..that would certainly fuck up the entire concept of "faith".
Your entire logic is like an M. Night Shyamalan movie. Absolutely terrible, with so many plot holes and baffling elements, your brain begins to hurt, and your eyes begin to sweat so as to keep you from seeing anymore of it. I'm sorry, but everytime I read your posts in this thread, I'm equally amused and saddened. It's pretty much a Dramedy. They're funny because they're absolutely null and ridiculous, and they're sad because..well..you think flies aren't good because they have bacteria on them and the Quran is totally full of shit because eating flies is not really good.
*sigh*
Rise and rise again, until lambs become lions
The word ‘star’ (najm) in the Qur’an is accompanied by the adjective thaaqib which indicates that it burns and consumes itself as it pierces through the shadows of the night. It was much later discovered that stars are bodies producing their own light like the sun and have limited life (Are consumed).
In the Qur’an, a different word, kawkab, is used to refer to the planets which are celestial bodies that reflect light and do not produce their own light like the sun.
Do you want me to continue? there is much more than that.
I think much of Christianity has broken away from these debunked facts because it's not helping their primary goal of recruiting more believers.
What was Jesus then? Wasn't he out to prove something? Weren't all those "facts" there to give some kind of cheap evidence that god created the Earth and everything on it? When believers present this evidence (if you can even call it that) and then conclude with "so obviously god is real" then you know - without a doubt - that they are biased individuals that have been brainwashed.
Can you please stop talking about Christianity and the Bible, and start talking about the Quran, and start giving me examples from those specific things, without retorting to Google? Wait, you can't? Thought so. You haven't read the Quran. You know next to nothing about it and about Islam, so stop defaming it.
Good luck proving to me that people were brainwashed thousands of years ago. I doubt your grandpa or daddio were alive back then. They didn't "prove" anything, they just preached, and you were free to believe. Some performed miracles, some things were performed by God. If you don't want to believe that kind of stuff, don't. I do. But don't start berating me for believing in what I believe, because I certainly am not doing that.
Tell you what. Provide me with some of that hardcore scientific "evidence" proving that God doesn't exist, and I'll rest my case. Just as I can't actually PROVE that God exists, you equally CAN'T prove that he DOESN'T exist. At the end of the day, this is just an argument with no end in sight. It's like two people arguing about The Lochness Monster. There's no proof that it exists, but there's no proof that it absolutely does not exist. Feel free to believe what you want to believe, but I for one, will not live my life thinking that I'm just living life for the sake of living it, and that there's no endgame content.
Rise and rise again, until lambs become lions
I wouldn't have even made a single post in this thread if it was labelled "Quran Vs. Science" But since it's about religion, that I do know. And I was brought up in a Christian family, so you can guess which religion I am specifically going to be addressing.
Take a look at the nature of people. They easily succumb to any rumours that seem to explain that which they do not know. It's not surprising that many people in the past believed in those stories, because belief spreads like wildfire - in other words, you would be shunned by the community if you opposed their belief. And what is critically important to note in this case is that no one had any reason to not believe in it. It was their only answer.
What you believe doesn't concern me. I just want to ask you, if you're happy with your life then why do you need to be considering what will happen in your afterlife when you,
1) Aren't sure it even exists
2) Probably haven't even considered what you will do 10 years from now
Doesn't it occur to you that man could've made up that whole heaven-hell comparison just to try and make you and me a better person in life? The most effective tool in changing someone's attitude is fear, and this is what they're using against us.
But if heaven and hell exists, why would we have a justice system? Why don't they just leave it in the devil's hands to punish them for the rest of eternity? Sorry, I don't mean to sound rude, but justice systems were created because there are many logical minded people out there that can see passed this brainwashing scheme, and lots of them are bad people too.
This argument has been used to death already...
You know that when Galileo gave some of that hardcore scientific evidence you're referring to about the Earth revolving around the Sun, he was tortured for it. Before this, if anyone questioned the Bible's facts then the same argument could have been produced: "Well then prove that it isn't true". Back then it couldn't, but what about now? Oh well now it's different. No one even thinks of arguing for the Bible's facts without coming up with some very crude and imaginative responses such as "the math was wrong".
The only evidence one can give for your query is of course limited to the discoveries Science has already made. I can say for one that if God is perfect, then he wouldn't be so imperfect as to create lies.
Notice your use of "absolutely". Evidence is swaying much more towards that it doesn't exist because proving/disproving that the Loch Ness monster exists is a much easier challenge and within modern Science's grasp than proving god doesn't exist. They were both based on the same principle though. Some people think they saw something and their imagination ran wild.
You make so many assumptions that it's hard to even discuss this with you. I think this one sentence sums up the fallacies of how you propose your arguments.
Are you suggesting that you know so much that you can even grasp what it means to be perfect and everything that it entails? I find that quite stunning because from my point of view, the idea of perfection is a very abstract and out of reach concept. I wouldn't be caught dead trying to presume I had any inclination as to what a perfect being would do if one existed.
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The only reason I can think of lying as being a good thing (man's definition of good being the same as god's) is if the truth would bring harm to others. Please tell me what harm would come to us if we were given the truth about the universe. Or is this concept out of our reach?
So far, given that it is in our nature to question things, to question that maybe Jesus wasn't who he really claimed he was and the bible was just created by man in an attempt to bring peace to the world is a perfectly valid proposition to make in my opinion.
... I have to go, I'll continue on later.
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I would much rather believe in the harsh truth than the comforting lie, but apparently, that's just a "matter of opinion". I posted on your response to that and I would like to remind you that you also use quite "interesting" words to label other people's opinions, do please don't be a hypocrite. If you want to get me banned, please try. I am honestly sick of you coming into threads, posting opinions, and when people respond to it, you laugh at it and ruin the entire thread because you have to act like a troll in everything you do.
But hey, I guess that's just a matter of opinion.
I mean any science. Hell, the fact that the Earth is round would be a nice thing to put in the Bible, but it specifically says the Earth is flat.
Please, if there is any scientific evidence of any field (Aside from theological "science") then please share it.
Stars are not burning. They are large bodies of gas that create photons via fusion. Fire is the only thing that could be compared to them by bronze age desert people. (If any middle easterners read this, I apologize for insulting your ancestors.)
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I enjoy talking about science and religion. Both are interesting.
Also, thanks for hearting my Star Wars quote
As would I. However, to presume either to be truth or lie is naive.
"Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it."
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Science is based on studying the physical world around us and coming up with conclusions based on that physical world. The alternative is...well...