For the past few weeks I've had a lot of trouble selling pretty much everything. It seems like people just aren't using the GAH. Is the RMAH where it's all going down? Are lots of people quitting? Or am I just having bad luck?
Look, more conspiracy theory BS from Bilge. Shocker. No the GAH is not dead. The GAH is more alive than ever. I have been selling on the GAH non stop over the past 3 weeks and turning around and selling the gold on RMAH. I have acutally been able to sell things for higher prices than before the RMAH had gold selling enabled.
Stop trying to feed your conspiracy theory bullshit to the community. You aren't helping anything and you won;t cause change. If you are so against the things Blizzard has done for D3 then stop playing it.
Take a moment and read the whole thread. A lot of good points and they are correct. The only bullshit on here is your post. Good day.
phoulmouth is a known troll... nothing to see here, move along. If you feed them they'll only grow.
Selling things just fine, still making profit. Anecdotal thread is anecdotal.
I'm fairly certain I can narrow the problem down, though (without putting on my tinfoil hat).
-OP is unaware of item/stat valuation and is listing items for too much.
-OP is unaware that players search for specific criteria on a regular basis, often with common baseline values for specific items. As such, OP does not know how to game the search such that his item actually appears in a large quantity of searches.
-OP is selling junk
That about covers all of the PEBKAC errors preventing efficient AH usage.
Selling things just fine, still making profit. Anecdotal thread is anecdotal.
I'm fairly certain I can narrow the problem down, though (without putting on my tinfoil hat).
-OP is unaware of item/stat valuation and is listing items for too much.
-OP is unaware that players search for specific criteria on a regular basis, often with common baseline values for specific items. As such, OP does not know how to game the search such that his item actually appears in a large quantity of searches.
-OP is selling junk
That about covers all of the PEBKAC errors preventing efficient AH usage.
Hehe PEBKAC haven't heard that one in awhile
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Playing Diablo since 97. I know nothing and having nothing good to say, I be a troll.
Hopefully 1.04 will bring people back. I cant sell a damn thing and its halfway decent stuff. Got a ring for sale right now with the following stats:
100 dex
79 vit
26% crit damage
115 life per second
Asking only 225k and it hasnt sold.
from now on for all my auctions im just gonna set a buyout at what a similar item is no matter how high then set a bid at what I would pay for it. Then I will let the market decide what its actually worth and people can bid on it.
For the past few weeks I've had a lot of trouble selling pretty much everything. It seems like people just aren't using the GAH. Is the RMAH where it's all going down? Are lots of people quitting? Or am I just having bad luck?
Look, more conspiracy theory BS from Bilge. Shocker. No the GAH is not dead. The GAH is more alive than ever. I have been selling on the GAH non stop over the past 3 weeks and turning around and selling the gold on RMAH. I have acutally been able to sell things for higher prices than before the RMAH had gold selling enabled.
Stop trying to feed your conspiracy theory bullshit to the community. You aren't helping anything and you won;t cause change. If you are so against the things Blizzard has done for D3 then stop playing it.
Take a moment and read the whole thread. A lot of good points and they are correct. The only bullshit on here is your post. Good day.
That ring is not priced right. Exactly what was mentioned before. Anyone looking for a starter dps ring for act 1 inferno isn't likely going to spend 200k on one piece, and anyone looking for an upgrade over their currently good ring is going to look for better than that. And what I mean by better is crit chance to go along with the crit damage. There are rings with less dex, sure, but crit chance to go along with the crit damage at less than 225k. Think about it, anyone who knows how much dps crit dmg and crit chance can add will look for both on a piece that can have both, and between the two they would rather have crit chance instead of crit dmg because they can just socket the crit dmg on their weapon.
At current prices I'd bet you'd have to list it less than 100k to expect it to sell quickly, and even then I'm not so sure.
edit: and to give you a very specific anecdote, I have a better ring on my disused (fane) demon hunter that I geared up in the first week of release and havent really touched since the nether tentacles nerf, and i paid 90k for his ring. Price your items right and they will sell.
Selling things just fine, still making profit. Anecdotal thread is anecdotal.
I'm fairly certain I can narrow the problem down, though (without putting on my tinfoil hat).
-OP is unaware of item/stat valuation and is listing items for too much.
-OP is unaware that players search for specific criteria on a regular basis, often with common baseline values for specific items. As such, OP does not know how to game the search such that his item actually appears in a large quantity of searches.
-OP is selling junk
That about covers all of the PEBKAC errors preventing efficient AH usage.
That wouldn't explain all the people agreeing with me, nor the threads on other forums (not started by me) about the same thing.
If anything, your "success" suggests you're setting prices far too low and getting ripped off by resellers.
For the past few weeks I've had a lot of trouble selling pretty much everything. It seems like people just aren't using the GAH. Is the RMAH where it's all going down? Are lots of people quitting? Or am I just having bad luck?
Look, more conspiracy theory BS from Bilge. Shocker. No the GAH is not dead. The GAH is more alive than ever. I have been selling on the GAH non stop over the past 3 weeks and turning around and selling the gold on RMAH. I have acutally been able to sell things for higher prices than before the RMAH had gold selling enabled.
Stop trying to feed your conspiracy theory bullshit to the community. You aren't helping anything and you won;t cause change. If you are so against the things Blizzard has done for D3 then stop playing it.
Take a moment and read the whole thread. A lot of good points and they are correct. The only bullshit on here is your post. Good day.
phoulmouth is a known troll... nothing to see here, move along. If you feed them they'll only grow.
Saying I am a troll because you know I am right is pretty awesome. You obviously hate the game because every post you make is full of conspiracy theory stupidity that is unfounded and unproven. If you don't like how Blizzard is running their company, stop playing their games.
Hopefully 1.04 will bring people back. I cant sell a damn thing and its halfway decent stuff. Got a ring for sale right now with the following stats:
100 dex
79 vit
26% crit damage
115 life per second
Asking only 225k and it hasnt sold.
from now on for all my auctions im just gonna set a buyout at what a similar item is no matter how high then set a bid at what I would pay for it. Then I will let the market decide what its actually worth and people can bid on it.
I just looked on AH for rings with those stats minus the useless life regen. There are tons on the AH selling for 25-75k and ones much much much better selling for the 225k you want. Properly price your ring and it will sell. It is not hard to look up similar items on the AH before sellign yours, or just list it up for bids and get what you get. Either way is better than pulling a price out of thin air with no research.
Selling things just fine, still making profit. Anecdotal thread is anecdotal.
I'm fairly certain I can narrow the problem down, though (without putting on my tinfoil hat).
-OP is unaware of item/stat valuation and is listing items for too much.
-OP is unaware that players search for specific criteria on a regular basis, often with common baseline values for specific items. As such, OP does not know how to game the search such that his item actually appears in a large quantity of searches.
-OP is selling junk
That about covers all of the PEBKAC errors preventing efficient AH usage.
That wouldn't explain all the people agreeing with me, nor the threads on other forums (not started by me) about the same thing.
If anything, your "success" suggests you're setting prices far too low and getting ripped off by resellers.
Or his success means you are pricing your items too high thus not selling them. Buyer dictate price, not sellers, econ 101.
Things are selling, but as far as i've seen demand is not pacing supply. Anyone who isn't taking that into account and at least moderately under-cutting similar item competition, is not likely to keep enough AH slot turn-over to keep the gold coming in.
Selling things just fine, still making profit. Anecdotal thread is anecdotal.
I'm fairly certain I can narrow the problem down, though (without putting on my tinfoil hat).
-OP is unaware of item/stat valuation and is listing items for too much.
-OP is unaware that players search for specific criteria on a regular basis, often with common baseline values for specific items. As such, OP does not know how to game the search such that his item actually appears in a large quantity of searches.
-OP is selling junk
That about covers all of the PEBKAC errors preventing efficient AH usage.
That wouldn't explain all the people agreeing with me, nor the threads on other forums (not started by me) about the same thing.
If anything, your "success" suggests you're setting prices far too low and getting ripped off by resellers.
A bunch of other people who have no idea what they're doing agreeing with you does not fact make.
But hey, ignore the empirical evidence that is the AH (see the post above mine for proof about people who have no idea what they're doing as far as pricing goes) and people still making large profits by reading the economy, the AH, and knowing what they're doing.
You could probably accomplish the same thing if you spent more time analyzing why things aren't working instead of instantly bitching about them.
Hopefully 1.04 will bring people back. I cant sell a damn thing and its halfway decent stuff. Got a ring for sale right now with the following stats:
100 dex
79 vit
26% crit damage
115 life per second
Asking only 225k and it hasnt sold.
from now on for all my auctions im just gonna set a buyout at what a similar item is no matter how high then set a bid at what I would pay for it. Then I will let the market decide what its actually worth and people can bid on it.
I just looked on AH for rings with those stats minus the useless life regen. There are tons on the AH selling for 25-75k and ones much much much better selling for the 225k you want. Properly price your ring and it will sell. It is not hard to look up similar items on the AH before sellign yours, or just list it up for bids and get what you get. Either way is better than pulling a price out of thin air with no research.
Wait what? I just typed in the 3 boxes 100 dex, 79 vit, and 26 crit damage and the cheapest ring it returned was 1.1 million and that was after I cut it back it 95 dex 75 vit and 25 crit. so its actually worse than my ring. At my stats the closest ring was 1.8 million. What the hell AH are you looking at I want cheap gear like yours.
from now on for all my auctions im just gonna set a buyout at what a similar item is no matter how high then set a bid at what I would pay for it. Then I will let the market decide what its actually worth and people can bid on it.
Also, YMMV but bidding IMHO is only for the best items, and means nothing for lower items, lower meaning 10 million gold and below. I've sold several thousand auctions since release and I'm not kidding (because I noticed every single flippin' time), only 2 or 3 actually sold at a bid amount when a buyout was set. And I almost always set the bid amount to less than half the buyout amount. This is with plenty, PLENTY of those thousands of auctions having lasted the full day and a half.
Hopefully 1.04 will bring people back. I cant sell a damn thing and its halfway decent stuff. Got a ring for sale right now with the following stats:
100 dex
79 vit
26% crit damage
115 life per second
Asking only 225k and it hasnt sold.
from now on for all my auctions im just gonna set a buyout at what a similar item is no matter how high then set a bid at what I would pay for it. Then I will let the market decide what its actually worth and people can bid on it.
I just looked on AH for rings with those stats minus the useless life regen. There are tons on the AH selling for 25-75k and ones much much much better selling for the 225k you want. Properly price your ring and it will sell. It is not hard to look up similar items on the AH before sellign yours, or just list it up for bids and get what you get. Either way is better than pulling a price out of thin air with no research.
Wait what? I just typed in the 3 boxes 100 dex, 79 vit, and 26 crit damage and the cheapest ring it returned was 1.1 million and that was after I cut it back it 95 dex 75 vit and 25 crit. so its actually worse than my ring. At my stats the closest ring was 1.8 million.
You're still not searching right. I just did a search for dex, vit and crit damage and sorted by price. This isn't rocket science. The second result is going for 5k and has a socket, 48 dex, 55 vit and 25 crit dmg. With a 2k 34 dex emerald in there, it's a grand total of 18 dex, 24 vit and 1 crit damage off of your ring. Pray tell, who in their right mind is going to pay you 218k more gold for 18 dex, 24 vitality and 1% extra crit damage?
Hopefully 1.04 will bring people back. I cant sell a damn thing and its halfway decent stuff. Got a ring for sale right now with the following stats:
100 dex
79 vit
26% crit damage
115 life per second
Asking only 225k and it hasnt sold.
from now on for all my auctions im just gonna set a buyout at what a similar item is no matter how high then set a bid at what I would pay for it. Then I will let the market decide what its actually worth and people can bid on it.
I just looked on AH for rings with those stats minus the useless life regen. There are tons on the AH selling for 25-75k and ones much much much better selling for the 225k you want. Properly price your ring and it will sell. It is not hard to look up similar items on the AH before sellign yours, or just list it up for bids and get what you get. Either way is better than pulling a price out of thin air with no research.
Wait what? I just typed in the 3 boxes 100 dex, 79 vit, and 26 crit damage and the cheapest ring it returned was 1.1 million and that was after I cut it back it 95 dex 75 vit and 25 crit. so its actually worse than my ring. At my stats the closest ring was 1.8 million.
You're still not searching right. I just did a search for dex, vit and crit damage and sorted by price. This isn't rocket science. The second result is going for 5k and has a socket, 48 dex, 55 vit and 25 crit dmg. With a 2k 34 dex emerald in there, it's a grand total of 18 dex, 24 vit and 1 crit damage off of your ring. Pray tell, who in their right mind is going to pay you 218k more gold for 18 dex, 24 vitality and 1% extra crit damage?
Ha, thx, was about to go through the trouble of doing the same shit. Thank god I refreshes, I'm lazy.
A bunch of other people who have no idea what they're doing agreeing with you does not fact make.
But hey, ignore the empirical evidence that is the AH (see the post above mine for proof about people who have no idea what they're doing as far as pricing goes) and people still making large profits by reading the economy, the AH, and knowing what they're doing.
You could probably accomplish the same thing if you spent more time analyzing why things aren't working instead of instantly bitching about them.
Who's bitching, aside from you?
Your expert analysis of economics leaves out one thing - the size of the demand pool. Your argument is predicated on the assumption as fact that the playerbase hasn't diminished. That's why it fails.
A bunch of other people who have no idea what they're doing agreeing with you does not fact make.
But hey, ignore the empirical evidence that is the AH (see the post above mine for proof about people who have no idea what they're doing as far as pricing goes) and people still making large profits by reading the economy, the AH, and knowing what they're doing.
You could probably accomplish the same thing if you spent more time analyzing why things aren't working instead of instantly bitching about them.
Who's bitching, aside from you?
Your expert analysis of economics leaves out one thing - the size of the demand pool. Your argument is predicated on the assumption as fact that the playerbase hasn't diminished. That's why it fails.
I'll wait on your legitimate numbers proving the player base has fallen by a significant degree.
Hopefully 1.04 will bring people back. I cant sell a damn thing and its halfway decent stuff. Got a ring for sale right now with the following stats:
100 dex
79 vit
26% crit damage
115 life per second
Asking only 225k and it hasnt sold.
from now on for all my auctions im just gonna set a buyout at what a similar item is no matter how high then set a bid at what I would pay for it. Then I will let the market decide what its actually worth and people can bid on it.
I just looked on AH for rings with those stats minus the useless life regen. There are tons on the AH selling for 25-75k and ones much much much better selling for the 225k you want. Properly price your ring and it will sell. It is not hard to look up similar items on the AH before sellign yours, or just list it up for bids and get what you get. Either way is better than pulling a price out of thin air with no research.
Wait what? I just typed in the 3 boxes 100 dex, 79 vit, and 26 crit damage and the cheapest ring it returned was 1.1 million and that was after I cut it back it 95 dex 75 vit and 25 crit. so its actually worse than my ring. At my stats the closest ring was 1.8 million.
You're still not searching right. I just did a search for dex, vit and crit damage and sorted by price. This isn't rocket science. The second result is going for 5k and has a socket, 48 dex, 55 vit and 25 crit dmg. With a 2k 34 dex emerald in there, it's a grand total of 18 dex, 24 vit and 1 crit damage off of your ring. Pray tell, who in their right mind is going to pay you 218k more gold for 18 dex, 24 vitality and 1% extra crit damage?
Won't do a better job than this, but I can say that 48 + 38 equals 86, and that the downgrade is only 14 vit, not 18. (this DOES strengthen the point of this post though, so please don't go loose on me, thanks)
A bunch of other people who have no idea what they're doing agreeing with you does not fact make.
But hey, ignore the empirical evidence that is the AH (see the post above mine for proof about people who have no idea what they're doing as far as pricing goes) and people still making large profits by reading the economy, the AH, and knowing what they're doing.
You could probably accomplish the same thing if you spent more time analyzing why things aren't working instead of instantly bitching about them.
Who's bitching, aside from you?
Your expert analysis of economics leaves out one thing - the size of the demand pool. Your argument is predicated on the assumption as fact that the playerbase hasn't diminished. That's why it fails.
I'll wait on your legitimate numbers proving the player base has fallen by a significant degree.
Actually, since your argument is that the playerbase has not diminished, and that instead, I am mispricing my items - the onus is on YOU to prove playerbase numbers.
phoulmouth is a known troll... nothing to see here, move along. If you feed them they'll only grow.
I'm fairly certain I can narrow the problem down, though (without putting on my tinfoil hat).
-OP is unaware of item/stat valuation and is listing items for too much.
-OP is unaware that players search for specific criteria on a regular basis, often with common baseline values for specific items. As such, OP does not know how to game the search such that his item actually appears in a large quantity of searches.
-OP is selling junk
That about covers all of the PEBKAC errors preventing efficient AH usage.
Hehe PEBKAC haven't heard that one in awhile
100 dex
79 vit
26% crit damage
115 life per second
Asking only 225k and it hasnt sold.
from now on for all my auctions im just gonna set a buyout at what a similar item is no matter how high then set a bid at what I would pay for it. Then I will let the market decide what its actually worth and people can bid on it.
Don't put up shit items and they will sell kid.
At current prices I'd bet you'd have to list it less than 100k to expect it to sell quickly, and even then I'm not so sure.
edit: and to give you a very specific anecdote, I have a better ring on my disused (fane) demon hunter that I geared up in the first week of release and havent really touched since the nether tentacles nerf, and i paid 90k for his ring. Price your items right and they will sell.
If anything, your "success" suggests you're setting prices far too low and getting ripped off by resellers.
Saying I am a troll because you know I am right is pretty awesome. You obviously hate the game because every post you make is full of conspiracy theory stupidity that is unfounded and unproven. If you don't like how Blizzard is running their company, stop playing their games.
I just looked on AH for rings with those stats minus the useless life regen. There are tons on the AH selling for 25-75k and ones much much much better selling for the 225k you want. Properly price your ring and it will sell. It is not hard to look up similar items on the AH before sellign yours, or just list it up for bids and get what you get. Either way is better than pulling a price out of thin air with no research.
Or his success means you are pricing your items too high thus not selling them. Buyer dictate price, not sellers, econ 101.
A bunch of other people who have no idea what they're doing agreeing with you does not fact make.
But hey, ignore the empirical evidence that is the AH (see the post above mine for proof about people who have no idea what they're doing as far as pricing goes) and people still making large profits by reading the economy, the AH, and knowing what they're doing.
You could probably accomplish the same thing if you spent more time analyzing why things aren't working instead of instantly bitching about them.
Wait what? I just typed in the 3 boxes 100 dex, 79 vit, and 26 crit damage and the cheapest ring it returned was 1.1 million and that was after I cut it back it 95 dex 75 vit and 25 crit. so its actually worse than my ring. At my stats the closest ring was 1.8 million. What the hell AH are you looking at I want cheap gear like yours.
Also, YMMV but bidding IMHO is only for the best items, and means nothing for lower items, lower meaning 10 million gold and below. I've sold several thousand auctions since release and I'm not kidding (because I noticed every single flippin' time), only 2 or 3 actually sold at a bid amount when a buyout was set. And I almost always set the bid amount to less than half the buyout amount. This is with plenty, PLENTY of those thousands of auctions having lasted the full day and a half.
You're still not searching right. I just did a search for dex, vit and crit damage and sorted by price. This isn't rocket science. The second result is going for 5k and has a socket, 48 dex, 55 vit and 25 crit dmg. With a 2k 34 dex emerald in there, it's a grand total of 18 dex, 24 vit and 1 crit damage off of your ring. Pray tell, who in their right mind is going to pay you 218k more gold for 18 dex, 24 vitality and 1% extra crit damage?
Ha, thx, was about to go through the trouble of doing the same shit. Thank god I refreshes, I'm lazy.
Your expert analysis of economics leaves out one thing - the size of the demand pool. Your argument is predicated on the assumption as fact that the playerbase hasn't diminished. That's why it fails.
I'll wait on your legitimate numbers proving the player base has fallen by a significant degree.
Won't do a better job than this, but I can say that 48 + 38 equals 86, and that the downgrade is only 14 vit, not 18. (this DOES strengthen the point of this post though, so please don't go loose on me, thanks)
Actually, since your argument is that the playerbase has not diminished, and that instead, I am mispricing my items - the onus is on YOU to prove playerbase numbers.