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I do something very similar to this run, it's a mix between yours and alkaizers actually.

I start off at core like Alkaizers, I like this zone because it has a 1-3 champ packs and is small. wp to the tower of damned 1, also small, 1-3 packs, if I don't have 5 stacks I wp to tower of cursed 1, relatively small 1-3 packs. Once I have 5 stacks I head to raxxis, work my way backwards to fields of slaughter, run a circle around the fields and wp to keep depths level 1, head to level 2, clear it and teleport to town. stash the items i have and then run to skycrown battlements, clear it and stonefort.

The only area you need to know your way around if keep depths 2, which is pretty easy, the exit is always left, so I always check going right first. If i started on a bottom entrance, I do right then bottom first, if I started on a top entrance, I go right then top first. This method usually helps me finding all the champs without backtracking, "much."

Correct me if I'm wrong but iirc it's something like this.

Core = 1-3 packs
Damned 1 = 1-3 packs
Cursed 1 = 1-3 packs* I only run this if I was unlucky with packs in the first two zones.

Raxxis = 3-5 packs* Since I don't clear the top part I never count on getting the min or max number of packs.
Fields of Slaughter = 2-4 packs
Keep Depths 2 = 3-5 packs
Skycrown Battlements = 3-6 packs
Stonefort = 2-4 packs + keywarden

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The only two characters I'm playing right now are a throw barb and an archon wizard. Reflect is fine. Either up your physical resistance, your armor, your LOH, or stop mindlessly clicking on everything you see. Or even get an extra weapon to switch to for those.

Oh wait, but doing any of those would lower your sheet DPS and then people on forums won't be in awe of you.

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I'd trade in all 10 of yours for less garbage loot.

I think a lot of your suggestions are good, but until they find a way to make it so a guy can go out and farm up some gear worth using, the game is not going to get better. Currently the only legitimate way to gear yourself is the AH. A game designed around a loot hunt should actually reward you with loot you can use.

Have you tried playing without using the AH? People are doing it. Did it occur to you that maybe the game wasn't supposed to be instantly beaten on Inferno as soon as you hit 60? It is currently easier than ever to faceroll through the game.

Let me make it more obvious: The more gear you buy from the AH, the harder it progressively becomes to find better gear. If instead you play without ever buying gear, you will find upgrades all the time. Honestly, the AH ruined the game for a lot of people. If it wasn't so easy to attain better gear, most people would be in blissful ignorance.

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Here's an old picture of what blizzard release date should have been http://tctechcrunch2...late-leaked.jpg . Titan shows that it will be release late 2013, but since blizzard procrastinate, it will probably be release 2014 along with new wow expansion (though it shows late 2013, they will probably push it for 2014 like they did with BC).

That's not an official slate.

LOL seriously? Blizzard posted that up whether or not if it's official, AND why would they post that if they are gonna meet the date. The point is, the games that are coming out aren't meeting their due date. By any means it seems like you're really defending Blizzard though they procrastinate a lot, with no evidence. Prove to me that I'm wrong of what Blizzard posted about the games that are to be release. You've stated that the game will be release 2015 at the minimum, but that's not the point I'm making. I'm stating that by the chart Blizzard provided us, it should be late 2013, but we haven't had any videos or news about it except this one http://www.ubergizmo...0-team-members/ . Be rational with answer and maybe, just maybe, you'll get the point of what I'm saying.

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I agree with your story assessment, but in terms of mechanics let's wait 3 years and see how well Diablo 3 evolves and then measure it against what the developers managed to do with Diablo 2 and its expansion. One reason for that: what most of us remember is _after_ all the glorious changes to Diablo 2 and we've mostly played the almost finished game for many, many years.

Great! Can i have my money back then? I'll pay them back in 3 years, you can even freeze or delete my characters
It's Blizzards fault for trying to develop a new bicicle and its really not my issue if they keep stumbling on same rocks all over again. All i wanted was Diablo 3, not an Auction House simulator with RPG elements.



In general, everything in D3 is built around monetizing. Even DRM is there to FORCE you to interact with Auction House. Each action, like nerfing and buffing, forces you to interact with AH. If you're interacting with AH, chances are, you will eventually join RMAH ranks.

I dont know why ppl are all acting as if spending some extra money on a game beyond buying it is the deadliest sin known to man with how many other games are doing it. Personally I have both made money of the RMAH and spent money on it and the way the game is now there is no way you would need to pay to play in any sense of the word.

Before farming pre paragon and nerfs was frustrating as fuck as the items dident quiet exsist back then for the average player now you just get 5 - 10mil and you can get a pretty decent toon that can at least do MP 1-2 and actually kill stuff without getting butt raped a´la corpse run to kill.

If ppl are honest with themselfs atm the only reason someone uses the RMAH now is to buy that one imba item that just make their farming easier or just to make dat deeeeeeeeeeeeeeps on their character sheet look "better" not because they cant farm A3 without investing in the RMAH like it was before because you were sick of diying, yes farming can be extremly frustrating never getting a item for yourself I know as well as anyone else here having personally sunk about 800 hours across my characters.

I personally LOVE the AH a place where you cant get scammed ? thank you! You do not need to be on the AH to trade just join your local trade chat and trade there instead, just be prepared to get ppl who either want to try to scam you or try to rip you off aka trying to buy cheap so they can sell for more. And for ppl who think AH is crap and that if you get scammed when not on AH that it´s your own fault I say why should I have to even think when trading with someone weather or not that persons intentions are good or not I don´t want to have to think about such things I simply just wish to have a good time when I game that is all. There is no way I would ever want it like it was in D2 where getting scammed was something you had to think about when trading with someone.

AS for the itemization I do agree having played Torchlight 2 that D3 still a lot to improve and change before it becomes any good, I still feel as well as there is still no incentive to play with anyone and that most of the time ppl are more likely to drag you down or be of no use when you play with them unless you are going to do hig MP lvl ubers.

The problem is not to use the RMAH or not, is the effect on the gameplay.

See, if Blizzard ever implements a well thought blacksmith, that would reduce the necessity of using the AH (RM or not), then it's just not possible, because, the rule number 1 is: maximize profit.

I just gave you one example, but there are tons. Why do you think that the only aspect customizable of your character are the items?, coincidence?, no, profit. Blizzard cant allow to have any other kind of customization (let say, skills) because that would reduce the need of using the AH -> lower revenue -> no-no.

See how the "you don't need to use the AH" is not really about the AH?.

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I'm an "actual D2 player" - played D1 and D2 for many since their releases, and am in my 30s...

...and I think that D3 is technologically a step up from both games. But gameplay, no. It might beat D1 but doesn't come close to D2, in my opinion. D2 wasn't boring to me either, even before LoD.

And the story of D3 is just total shit. I could have written a better story putting a marker in-between my toes and spinning around on a large roll of wax paper completely drunk off my ass... and that's if you read it with the vomit still on the pages. The story is absolute trash.

And Diablo's voiceover is just completely terrible. People may say, "Oh, it' just a voiceover," but when you spent over a decade opening the seals of Chaos Sanctuary to hear the chilling, "Not even death can save you from me," the Diablo voiceover from D3 just doesn't cut it.

Let me not fail to at least mention the disaster that is itemization in D3.

I agree with your story assessment, but in terms of mechanics let's wait 3 years and see how well Diablo 3 evolves and then measure it against what the developers managed to do with Diablo 2 and its expansion. One reason for that: what most of us remember is _after_ all the glorious changes to Diablo 2 and we've mostly played the almost finished game for many, many years.

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@Litheum: Actually, when re-reading all the replies, I disagree with what you said. Especially Ignatius gave a lot of interesting insight from a Blizzard wizard point of view, and what Maka said was just plain right.

This build is really really interesting. It's certainly not very fast as it's a deviation of the original kiting builds. I like this and I would prefer someone would try to change it a little bit but still maintain the original idea instead of turning this into another CMWW spec.

Anyways, regarding the AP discussion that emerged: I played around with a Disintegrate build recently and figured that if you get a Stone of Jordan (or other legendary) with AP cost reduction for a specific spell, use Astral Presence and the 4 set piece bonus of Tal Rasha (just buy the cheapest 4 you can find, they're still good enough for playing around a bit) - you won't have any AP problems. You don't need APoC/CMWW, there are other ways to maintain builds that seem to be AP-heavy on first glance. As soon as you fall back on APoC, you also need CM, and then you also need WW, and... in the end you're just one in a million and your unique build idea is gone. And this would be a shame. Keep on trying!

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Pants: 1 item (Innas)
Belt: 1 item (Witching Hour)
Chest 1 item (Tal Rashas)

Not sure what other items you meant. Unless you meant the lvl 30ish items?

I'm actually not sure what you're asking me here. Those were all random thoughts not connected to each other. Are you asking about IAS items? All of those items you listed have IAS but you can also get it on your gloves, rings, amulet, Lacuni Bracers, Mempo of Twilight, Andariel's Visage, etc.

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Not even going into the details of all the usual 'oh lord life sucks so bad please cut me open' blah:

LOOK AT THE GRAPH OF THE GOLD COST

Now select the time frame from 1 Dec 2012 to today... and AFTER you've done that please ask that question at the start of the thread again

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Your mother's recipe for pasta sauce is going to be slammed on the internet by me because, even though it's not my recipe, nor did I create it or have the right to call it mine, I somehow feel entitled because I bought some and now I should have a say in how it's made.

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"Black" (no elemental damage) weapon and a Triumvirate are a huge upgrade for you. Chest and pants both don't have sockets. There is all sorts of equipment that adds attack speed on pants, belt, and chest too. No offense to Shinna, but Archon DOES care about IAS. Once you get a black weapon, anything that adds +x% to elemental damage will be a huge upgrade (zunna boots, tal rasha amulet, etc)