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    posted a message on The endgame in Diablo 3 is pathetic, and disapointing
    Quote from claven

    Quote from SFJake

    Quote from Avrunath

    If you dont like it, dont play it! Stop whining.

    If you're a mindless fan throwing stupidities like this around, don't bother with me. Forums and any place in the world are made for a variety of opinions. Now get back to your cave where everything is lollipops and people loving each other. This a discussion forum, not a "praise the almighty Blizzard" forum.

    Interesting. So your repeated assessment that Blizzard is greedy, lazy and stupid is a constructive and fairly delivered opinion, whereas someone saying that the game is good and is in fact much more varied than D2 could ever hope to be is just fanboys spouting the party line.

    What a rich inner life you must have.
    His post is "shut up don't whine", not just "I disagree its a good game".
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    posted a message on The endgame in Diablo 3 is pathetic, and disapointing
    Quote from Zanmato

    Quote from Gheed2010

    lol, newbs, meet jake, jake, newbs

    What Jake is talking about has nothing to do with difficulty, so being a newb is not the issue. Read the god damn post through to the end before copy/pasting the same answer you give everyone who isn't jizzing his pants over D3.
    I wouldn't defend myself too much. He's really talking about my reputation on this forum, and how some other posters don't really know me at all. Gheed's been around for a while, he's seen me post before.

    Thats usually how I post, pretty angry, sometimes incredibly rude.

    Its a deserved reputation.
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    posted a message on The endgame in Diablo 3 is pathetic, and disapointing
    Quote from Phrayed


    SFJake comes off (and has always come off) as a guy who is just desperately in need of attention.
    No...


    I'm an angry person and I want people to be angry at me for being angry at what they love.

    Come on, be angry at me, then you'll feel better.



    Those "don't play the game" comments are always the silliest to me, anyway. I'm extremely pationate about games and their potential and I'm the Lord of Disappointment, I'm always disappointed at a product because I see so much untapped potential.


    You can scorch me all you want, gaming is an art, and its being run like a business in every way. Therefore, I'm an eternal whiner and defender of the true art of gaming and I will keep wishing and discussing for its true potential.

    You don't get a lot of games that are half-decent. For the record, I love this game's combat, I think it has a lot of potential, -thats- why I'm here. I don't hang around games that are hopeless causes in every way.
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    posted a message on The endgame in Diablo 3 is pathetic, and disapointing
    Quote from emyln

    Quote from SFJake

    Even Diablo 2 has more interesting end game. Uber Tristram (which did come late) is actually interesting, albeit very small and a bit lazy, end game. Thats the kind of content thats fun. REWARDING places to go, new weird things to find and do, new places, new monsters, new bosses or redesigned boss encounters with new attacks, name it.
    You do realize that that D3 has already shipped with more content than Diablo 2 classic right? Did you even know that Uber Tristian was only released 5 years after the game shipped right? Good god, you're comparing content for a game out 1 week vs a game that's had 13 patches and 1 expansion over 12 years.
    *sigh*

    Everytime I use it as an example of what I found to be a nice incentive, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, people bash me for it. And oh my gosh, it was so hard to add and was added years later. Obviously Diablo 3 could NOT have any such thing early on because of that.

    I can't take you seriously.

    Quote from dontbl1nk

    God. The worst part of no pvp at launch is not being able to kill whiney noobs like these.
    Can't wait.
    #bringbackhostility

    Instead of being a prententious coward hurting people from behind your screen, you have to get up and get in someone's real life face. Sorry that your nonexistent manhood is disappointed by its inability to satisfy itself from such safe ways of causing grief.
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    posted a message on The endgame in Diablo 3 is pathetic, and disapointing
    Quote from Avrunath

    If you dont like it, dont play it! Stop whining.

    If you're a mindless fan throwing stupidities like this around, don't bother with me. Forums and any place in the world are made for a variety of opinions. Now get back to your cave where everything is lollipops and people loving each other. This a discussion forum, not a "praise the almighty Blizzard" forum.
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    posted a message on The endgame in Diablo 3 is pathetic, and disapointing
    Quote from mavfin

    Quote from FoxBatD2

    This is Diablo. No you're not going to have reams of endgame content like an MMO or something.

    Would it be too much to ask for a little something besides bigger numbers? Maybe not. But exclusive content? Yeah, that is a bit much.

    Exactly. Anyone expecting them to add 'more content' before an expansion, didn't do their research very well. This is Diablo 3, not an MMO. It's a B2P title, that plays online, and offers small group co-op if you want it, but it's not required.
    Who said adding content through patches?

    I'm talking about content that should have been included. Logical steps in difficulties and differences that they would have done if they weren't lazy and greedy.

    Quote from garnok

    Quote from SFJake

    . But hey, Diablo 2 was so simple 12 years ago, who needs any challenge and complexity when everything good about Diablo 2 is also gone from this game?

    What good things in diablo2 is not in diablo3? The only good thing about diablo2 was monster slaying, which is still in diablo3.

    imo, everything else is improvements.
    Items.
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    posted a message on The endgame in Diablo 3 is pathetic, and disapointing
    Guys...


    I'm trying not to get banned.

    Why are you tempting me like this?

    Quote from NeHoMaR

    If "the endgame in Diablo 3 is pathetic", then Diablo 1 & 2 endgames are uber super pathetic?
    It wasn't very good, no. Well, can't speak for D1. For Diablo 2, it wasn't very good, but because of the itemization I had things to look forward to, and I only started playing late: Uber Tristram was actually an incentive enough to try and go forward, believe it or not. Funny thing is, I never really got there. (besides in SP with cheats to check it out)

    Quote from UberN00b

    How the hell is Diablo 2 so much more interesting with end game? Aside from Dclone and Uber Tristram, there isn't a difference. Oh wait, they gave monsters immunities and penalized your resistances. Everyone still had to stack Vitality and resists to survive the hits and dump points into their main nuke in order to avoid being one-shotted.

    You know I was just pointing out that at least, Diablo 2 had Uber Tristram. I didn't say its end game was good, just slightly better.


    And I've played Diablo thanks. Diablo 2 was more about skills and interesting items than this game is. If Diablo 3 had interesting itemization, real epic legendaries I want so badly, I might forgive all of this. But it doesn't.

    By the way, Diablo is an action game. Action games are about skill. Yes, we love items, so do I, you didn't like Diablo 2 if you didn't care about getting powerful through gear. But don't tell me Inferno is a fine difficulty.

    I could have come up with hundreds of ways to make higher difficultes genuinly challenging with new obstacles and things that are actually interesting to deal with. But hey, Diablo 2 was so simple 12 years ago, who needs any challenge and complexity when everything good about Diablo 2 is also gone from this game?... (except the plain old destructions of thousands of monsters)

    Are people here against advancements in any shape or form that would make the game better just because mindless gear grinding was fun 12 years ago?


    I find it hard to answer a lot of people here directly without risking a perma ban.
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    posted a message on The endgame in Diablo 3 is pathetic, and disapointing
    I was there when they were wondering, what can we add as endgame content?

    And they thought hey! Lets add a 4th difficulty where you can farm anywhere!

    A weird concept, but hey, even back then I bought it. Turned out to be the worst thing ever. Please, I'm not going to get into a big discussion as to why inferno is just a stupid giant gear check that has no interest.

    Inferno, like Nightmare and Hell, is nothing but an extremely lazy copy-paste with bigger numbers. The difficulty itself literally took 5 minutes to do. The difficulties have NO differences, no new monsters, no new attacks, no nothing. They claimed better intelligence, maybe in Normal they're a bit dumber at best, thats it.

    Its an incredibly lazy and inneffective endgame content. I hate it. I think its horrible. Is that all we can come up with as endgame? I'm there, wondering how much god damn time of my life I'm going to spend gearing up for the SAME EXACT THING that I did with the same character 3 times in a row, just to experience nothing new whatsoever and not be challenged in any true way.


    Even Diablo 2 has more interesting end game. Uber Tristram (which did come late) is actually interesting, albeit very small and a bit lazy, end game. Thats the kind of content thats fun. REWARDING places to go, new weird things to find and do, new places, new monsters, new bosses or redesigned boss encounters with new attacks, name it.


    But no. There is NOTHING. AT ALL.

    Why is that acceptable? After all this time, the only end game they could think of is a 5 minute copy paste (which is all it is).

    Add to that how bad the itemization is, how nobody is actually looking forward to any item because none is changing their experience in any way...


    What a boring end game. I think those words just prove that its boring and uninspired, INCREDIBLY uninspired, as are every difficulty levels in this game. Dear god, I actually believed they would add at least 1 attack to 1 monster. They didn't.


    Unbelievable how disappointed I am. But I guess all people ever really wanted is a grinding game, uh? What a waste of potential.
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    posted a message on wizard kills inferno diablo in 2min w/ 0 dmg taken
    This is the kind of stuff that they should know about in WoW. You add an internal cooldown or limit to the ability, so that it can't logically surpass a certain amount (and thus reduce cooldown of abilities to an abusable level).

    You would think they know these things.
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    posted a message on Inferno and Balancing, Elective Mode, Diablo III: Fastest-Selling PC Game Ever, Many Blue Posts
    Quote from Makesh

    Man, some of these posts... I almost feel sorry for the Blizzard people having to deal with that shit.
    That's the reason I stay the fuck out of the official forums, they're so overrun by WoW'ified entitled retards who wants everything spoonfed to them.
    I'm so glad this site exists, the quality of the posts here are miles higher than anything on the official forum.
    Quote from Makesh

    Man, some of these posts... I almost feel sorry for the Blizzard people having to deal with that shit.
    That's the reason I stay the fuck out of the official forums, they're so overrun by WoW'ified entitled retards who wants everything spoonfed to them.
    I'm so glad this site exists, the quality of the posts here are miles higher than anything on the official forum.

    Yeah, I totally love this forum instead. Full of defending fanboys who think entitled is an insult instead of a right.

    Here's the harsh truth: This place is the exact opposite of that forum, and as such is equally awful.
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    posted a message on Diablo 3 and Poorly Implemented Difficulty
    Quote from Theungry

    Oh, I get it. This is about your ego, not game design.

    This forum really has gone full retard hasn't it?

    Challenge is part of game design and how rewarding a game is, you god damn moron.
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    posted a message on Diablo 3 and Poorly Implemented Difficulty
    Quote from Theungry

    I have no idea how that's suppose to be relevant. You can stop playing after normal if you want. The reason to keep playing is if you want more and more difficult challenges with the same content.
    There is no "challenge", thats the whole point.
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    posted a message on Diablo 3 and Poorly Implemented Difficulty
    Well, well, someone that shares my point of view.

    I completely agree with you when it comes to difficulty and items.

    It specifically bothers me that Blizzard openly states Inferno is "challenging". Its not. Almost nothing in the game is actually of any challenge. One could say finding those awkward builds that worked in Inferno was the challenge, but obviously "cheap builds" are out of the question, as they will get nerfed.

    The game is an immense gear check and I have little love for that, if thats all it is.

    And the items, boy oh boy... I never believed before the game was released, that they would miss the mark as much as they did. Legendaries in DIablo 3 are less interesting than blue items in Diablo 2.


    And frankly, I really, genuinly expected higher difficulties to present new mechanics. New attacks for monsters and bosses, new patterns, new things (THAT CAN BE DEALT WITH) that challenges you and make you learn.

    The only new things are elite stacking effects that become impossible to avoid or deal with. There was zero effort in the new difficulties. Pumping the stats is the laziest way I expected a big company to handle this, especially when that is ALL there is for endgame.
    Quote from Doez

    Gear is the only thing that matters in Diablo games.
    No. Its an action game for a reason. Why be an action game if skill barely matters? Thats absurd.
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    posted a message on Ohh my god the QQ
    Game is a flop (in a non-financial way) and you come up with that kind of topic to make yourself feel better, or what?
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    posted a message on Usefulness of Gems, Legendary Gear Balancing, Blue Posts, and Interview and Review for "The Order"
    ^^

    Biggest problem I have with gems is lack of variety. When I saw there were only 4 I nearly burst out in laughter. It was so pathetic, I couldn't believe it. Not only do they remove everything unique and special about D2, they just lower it as much as they can! Unbelievable!

    And itemization as a whole is seriously pathetic. The legendaries are pathetic, the affixes are seriously lacking. There is almost nothing even remotely special and too few affixes that are useful. We're just getting specific basic stats up by gear and NOTHING stands out.

    They not only didn't dare even a little bit to present anything better, (you remember when they said they would include new and excitting things? Remember how EVERYTHING WAS SCRAPPED and the game ultimately has far less than Diablo 2?), but they just failed to deliver.

    The itemization is the most important thing in a Diablo game and they screwed it up BIG time. Unbelievable.
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